all current voice CCIE's as Collaboration CCIEs.?
>>
>> Ken
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>>
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>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Mohammed Al-Assadi
>> wrote:
>> Ben e-mail
>>
>> be...@cisco.com
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>>
>>
ay 31, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Mohammed Al-Assadi <
> m_alass...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ben e-mail
>>
>> be...@cisco.com
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>>
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>> > From: brian.sch...@vitalsite.com
>> > To: rrcr...@yahoo.com; leslie.me...@lvs1.com
>> > Date:
lass...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ben e-mail
>>
>> be...@cisco.com
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>> > From: brian.sch...@vitalsite.com
>> > To: rrcr...@yahoo.com; leslie.me...@lvs1.com
>> > Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:29:14 +
>> > CC: cci
30, 2013 5:10 AM
To: Leslie Meade , William Bell
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Agreed, nailed it!
Jamie Parr
CCIE #38633 (voice)
Engineer - IT
jamp...@cisco.com
Phone: +44 20 8824 2641
Mobile: +44 7590622049
-Original Message-
From: ccie_
respectful and thoughtful
> > arguments on this?
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> > [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Rrcrumm
> > Sent: Wednesday, May
gt; be...@cisco.com
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: brian.sch...@vitalsite.com
>> > To: rrcr...@yahoo.com; leslie.me...@lvs1.com
>> > Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:29:14 +
>> > CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>>
>> > Subject: Re: [OSL
Ben e-mail
>
> be...@cisco.com
>
>
>
> > From: brian.sch...@vitalsite.com
> > To: rrcr...@yahoo.com; leslie.me...@lvs1.com
> > Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:29:14 +0000
> > CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Col
Ben e-mail
be...@cisco.com
> From: brian.sch...@vitalsite.com
> To: rrcr...@yahoo.com; leslie.me...@lvs1.com
> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:29:14 +
> CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
>
> It
t;>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
>> ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Rrcrumm
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:11 AM
>> To: Leslie Meade
>> Cc: ccie_voic
> Original message ----
> > From: Mark Holloway
> > Date:
> > To: Bill Lake
> > Cc: OSL Group ,Vik Malhi
> >
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially
> > announced
> >
> >
> > Granted we all kn
: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Ben Ng comes to mind
On May 29, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Leslie Meade wrote:
> The question is... what if anything can we do ?
> Where would we start..
>
>
>
> Original message
> From: Mark Holloway
&g
...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Parr
(jamparr)
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:38 AM
To: Leslie Meade; William Bell
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Agreed, nailed it!
Jamie Parr
CCIE #38633 (voice)
Engineer - IT
jamp
07:42
To: William Bell
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Could not say it any better
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2013, at 11:28 PM, "William Bell"
mailto:b...@ucguerrilla.com>> wrote:
Brian,
That was
inestudylist.com<mailto:boun...@onlinestudylist.com>]
On Behalf OfWilliam Bell
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:28 PM
To: somp...@gmail.com<mailto:somp...@gmail.com>
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration offic
;>
> Cc: OSL Group
> mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>>,Vik
> Malhi mailto:vma...@ipexpert.com>>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
>
>
> Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written will allow us to remain
>
the head and put my
>>> own 2 cents in. I'm able to place a comment in the equipment list post
>>> here: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20804 but not the other.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have comment options on the exam topics page?
>
2013 at 12:10 PM, Rrcrumm wrote:
>>
>>> Ben Ng comes to mind
>>>
>>> On May 29, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Leslie Meade wrote:
>>>
>>> > The question is... what if anything can we do ?
>>> > Where would we start..
>>> >
>
;>>
>>> If you had a way to show that this move costs Cisco money then you would
>>> have an even more effective weapon. This is a little harder to
>>> conceptualize and even harder to convince everyone to do what would need to
>>> be done.
>>>
&g
.
>>
>> -Bil
>>
>> --
>> William Bell, CCIE #38914
>> blog: http://ucguerrilla.com
>> Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 29, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Leslie Meade wrote:
>>
>> The question is... w
st.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of William Bell
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:12 PM
To: Martin Sloan
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
They did disable commenting. That's
Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:25 PM
> *To:* Rrcrumm
> *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; vma...@ipexpert.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> Is it just me or did they disable commenting on the v4 lab topics post?
>
&g
>> Ben Ng comes to mind
>>
>> On May 29, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Leslie Meade wrote:
>>
>> > The question is... what if anything can we do ?
>> > Where would we start..
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Original message -
> ---- Original message
>> > From: Mark Holloway
>> > Date:
>> > To: Bill Lake
>> > Cc: OSL Group ,Vik Malhi <
>> vma...@ipexpert.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
>> >
rt..
> >
> >
> >
> > Original message
> > From: Mark Holloway
> > Date:
> > To: Bill Lake
> > Cc: OSL Group ,Vik Malhi
> >
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
> >
> >
>
hat if anything can we do ?
> Where would we start..
>
>
>
> Original message
> From: Mark Holloway
> Date:
> To: Bill Lake
> Cc: OSL Group ,Vik Malhi <
> vma...@ipexpert.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially ann
g can we do ?
> > Where would we start..
> >
> >
> >
> > Original message
> > From: Mark Holloway
> > Date:
> > To: Bill Lake
> > Cc: OSL Group ,Vik Malhi <
> vma...@ipexpert.com>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Vo
I'd love to get some traction on an effort to fix this. Please count me in
for anything I can do to let our concerns be heard. I'm sure I'm not alone
here but I'm embarrassed to tell my wife that I've invested our families
time and money into something that's EOL. Not a very wise decision on my
If you or any of your colleges are going to Cisco Live. I'm sure there is a
CCIE Voice presentation and update. Voice your opinion there. ***No pun
intended.***
Overall, it sucks. It does look like more of a marketing side using the
word Collaboration. There are some changes in 7.0 to 9.1 and vid
Agreed.
--
William Bell, CCIE #38914
blog: http://ucguerrilla.com
Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla
On May 29, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Bill Lake wrote:
> I agree that in retiring the exam and requiring that you retake the
> lab portion again is incomprehensible.
>
> They can't tell me that the R&
tter @ucguerrilla
On May 29, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Leslie Meade wrote:
> The question is... what if anything can we do ?
> Where would we start..
>
>
>
> Original message
> From: Mark Holloway
> Date:
> To: Bill Lake
> Cc: OSL Group ,Vik
Vik Malhi
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
>
>
> Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written will allow us to remain
> CCIE's even if Voice is retired, but I think the frustration is Voice and
> Collaboration are not THAT far apart an
VIk/IPExpert Team,
Does anyone knows who the Program Manager is for Upcoming Collaboration
Track ? We need to voice our concerns to PM's direct email address & on
Cisco Support Community. That's only way, we will be heard.
Let's hope Cisco listens to us.
Regards,
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:29
I agree that in retiring the exam and requiring that you retake the
lab portion again is incomprehensible.
They can't tell me that the R&S hasn't changed as much or more over
its lifetime. It is still the same but they did not retire it (well
maybe that is the plan, retire them all and make you e
The question is... what if anything can we do ?
Where would we start..
Original message
From: Mark Holloway
Date:
To: Bill Lake
Cc: OSL Group ,Vik Malhi
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Granted we all know that taking any CCIE
Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written will allow us to remain CCIE's
even if Voice is retired, but I think the frustration is Voice and
Collaboration are not THAT far apart and no matter how you look at it, it all
falls under Cisco Unified Communications, which is what the name of the
ad to say that but I believe that this is the true
>
> Regards
> Chrysostomos
>
>
>
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lake
> Sent: 29 May 2013 14:10
> To: m george
> Cc:
-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lake
Sent: 29 May 2013 14:10
To: m george
Cc: OSL Group; Vik Malhi
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Ranting about it won't change anything. I read on line that when they retire
your CCIE, you can still ren
y announced (m george)
>>2. Re: CCIE Collaboration officially announced (Hesham
>> Abdelkereem) (Kamran Ahsanullah)
>>3. Re: CCIE Collaboration officially announced (Karen Johnson)
>>
>>
>> ------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 09:16:
Ranting about it won't change anything. I read on line that when they
retire your CCIE, you can still renew by passing a CCIE level written or
lab. If this is true then you do not loose your CCIE just the voice tag.
That seems to be a difficult pill to swallow but it would not be the first
from
Vik,
A 2nd grader can pass RS/Sec/SP much much easier than Voice IE. Voice is
still the toughest one & i know some double IE's who couldn't pass Voice.
If Cisco has lost faith in re-cert, that should apply to every track, not
just Voice.
Naturally, they should have renamed Certification to Voic
,
>> ?
>> anyone remember what is the keyboard model use in SJ and RTP, need to
>> duplicate for speed.
>> ?
>> tks
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>>
ereem) (Kamran Ahsanullah)
>3. Re: CCIE Collaboration officially announced (Karen Johnson)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 09:16:01 +0500
> From: m george
> To: Vik Malhi
&
As I said before - I would think product marketing had something to say about
this. Just my opinion. Why for the last 4 years has there been a lack of
Microsoft products in the exam? Are Microsoft are not relevant or it Marketing
bullying the content team?
At the same time there are many folks
t;
> if active CCIE voice keep renewing thru written, they will keep the number.
>
> From: m george
> To: Vik Malhi
> Cc: OSL Group
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:16:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
>
> This is quite
I am guessing this is a marketing decision and the technical folks feared this
backlash, hence the delay in the announcement.
It makes no sense whatsoever, especially as the blueprint change seems to be
fairly minimal.
On May 28, 2013, at 21:16, m george wrote:
> This is quite ridiculous ! Al
; hi folks,
> ?
> anyone remember what is the keyboard model use in SJ and RTP, need to
> duplicate for speed.
> ?
> tks
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: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
This is quite ridiculous ! All other tracks (RS/SP) have gone through massive
changes but they were retained. Even Security CCIE track has recently gone
through 50% more overlap (ISE/WSA/ACS/WLC/AP & what not is new) but they di
This is quite ridiculous ! All other tracks (RS/SP) have gone through
massive changes but they were retained. Even Security CCIE track has
recently gone through 50% more overlap (ISE/WSA/ACS/WLC/AP & what not is
new) but they didn't rename it & retire old one. If you look at CCIE
Collaboration equi
Sweet sweet sweet
From: Mark Holloway
To: Vik Malhi
Cc: OSL Group
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:56:24 PM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Bummer, I was really hoping CCIE Voice candidates would transition to
Yes its really frustrating what Cisco is doing to us.
Ok let me tell you this.
People now have invested a lot of money in pursuing their CCIE Voice that
includes (Verious Workbook fees , Rack Rentals , Home Lab building , travel
expenses and Lab fees attempts for whatever times)
So when people achi
Bummer, I was really hoping CCIE Voice candidates would transition to
Collaboration without any additional lab exams.
On May 28, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Vik Malhi wrote:
> For my initial reaction read here:
>
> http://bit.ly/12MNK5t
>
>
> Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890
> Managing Partner - IPexpert, In
For my initial reaction read here:
http://bit.ly/12MNK5t
Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890
Managing Partner - IPexpert, Inc.
Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 ext 420
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
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