We are sorry you live in the ice age year round. Life does get cancelled
because its been over 10 years since we got this much so we aren't exactly
prepared with enough trucks to get around quickly and get things cleaned. I
went in to work Saturday and made my truck plow with its bumper. Came
http://www.trinidadandtobagonews.com/blog/?p=2126
I decided to post a topic that I didn't think would be controversial
at all to start off the day.
*waves*
:-)
Avatar imaginatively revisits the crime scene of white Americas
foundational act of genocide, in which entire native tribes and
And because people cited it, it makes it more reputable?
This was an op/ed piece.
Op/ed != news
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually that site was cited many times during the election.
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com
As if the people who were already here didn't engage in genocide
themselves? For example in one ceremony the Aztecs ritually sacrificed
about 30,000 people from one conquered city state. And they had been
doing such things for generations. The Iroquois essentially
slaughtered the Hurons in the
Hmm...you've zeroed in on one small part of the entire article.
But let's go with that:
So you are saying that because a person already commits a crime,
should that person fall victim to the same crime it is justified?
So..basically if I can prove that you stole someone's cell phone then
I
I'm pretty sure I already know the answer to this butit only runs on a
Mac?
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Dave l cfl...@jamwerx.com wrote:
When you install the xcode tools it's unbelievable how many tools,
examples, etc.. there is in there, realy everything you need.
Op/ed != news
Op/ed is not a syntactically correct variable name.
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Archive:
*With coffee in hand James Cameron browses TT News, as he often does.*
Oh my... I never even noticed... but I didn't intend to... OMG! I'm not
unique, creative or cutting edge at all!
*Opens desk drawer and removes revolver.
A lie... it's all been a lie... T-1000 was really just the abyss
Yes. But check this out. I was going to build one of these so I could
install the app dev software.
http://lifehacker.com/5351485/how-to-build-a-hackintosh-with-snow-leopard-start-to-finish
http://macapper.com/2008/01/19/diy-hackintosh-tutorial-build-a-mac-pro-for-cheap/
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009
Death panels are real and they are already fast at work.
Mammograms are no longer recommended for women under 50. That means
soon health care won't pay for them. That means death to women under
50 with breast cancer.
It's started already.
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Larry C. Lyons
so, in the end, it's capitalism that has created the death panels.
On Dec 21, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Sam wrote:
Death panels are real and they are already fast at work.
Mammograms are no longer recommended for women under 50. That means
soon health care won't pay for them. That means death to
waaa?
Health care is being socialized as we type.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
so, in the end, it's capitalism that has created the death panels.
On Dec 21, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Sam wrote:
Death panels are real and they are already
really, so the hc bill has been passed and ratified already? I must be out of
the loop :)
anyway, the mammogram recommendation was a federal one and I know you want the
govt. out of healthcareI figured you'd be happy with this.
This leaves the insurance companies and doctors able to make
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
So how much snow did people get from that snowstorm that hit Friday
and yesterday? We just dug our cars out of about 2 feet of snow. As
usual drivers in the Washington DC area immediately lost all signs of
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.trinidadandtobagonews.com/blog/?p=2126
I decided to post a topic that I didn't think would be controversial
at all to start off the day.
*waves*
Is your question simply When will white people stop making films like
On 12/21/2009 7:15 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
In Atlanta we got an inch or two, but it was all melted when it fell!
Isn't melted falling snow called rain?
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On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
really, so the hc bill has been passed and ratified already? I must be out of
the loop :)
Sneaky shit happens while you sleep.
anyway, the mammogram recommendation was a federal one and I know you want
These are movies about white guilt. Our main white characters realize
that they are complicit in a system which is destroying aliens, AKA
people of color - their cultures, their habitats, and their
populations. The whites realize this when they begin to assimilate
into the alien cultures and see
On Dec 21, 2009, at 9:26 AM, Sam wrote:
anyway, the mammogram recommendation was a federal one and I know you want
the govt. out of healthcareI figured you'd be happy with this.
I'm confused.
The insurance companies were being forced to pay for mammograms because the
suggested age
It seems the author's key point is that everything white people do is racist.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
These are movies about white guilt. Our main white characters realize
that they are complicit in a system which is destroying aliens, AKA
people of
I still don't really see the point. Even if it is about white guilt.
The author saying the movies should not be made at all? That white
people should instead stick their heads in the sand?
Stop cut/pasting long parts of the article and tell me the point in
one or two simple sentences. My
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm confused.
The insurance companies were being forced to pay for mammograms because the
suggested age was 40 before...now that it's 50, they can save 10 years worth
of mammogram fees.
They weren't
I didn't see it but according to this guy it's a $500 million movie
about the evils of capitalism.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/20/avatar-media-james-cameron-opinions-columnists-reihan-salam.html
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote:
I still don't
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
sure doctors make more money. I just got my dentist claim summary back about
2 days ago. My routine cleaning was a $45 charge. My insurance company said
that they only allowed $25. The dentist only
On Dec 21, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Sam wrote:
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm confused.
The insurance companies were being forced to pay for mammograms because the
suggested age was 40 before...now that it's 50, they can save 10
It's been years since I had to, but I have had to haggle with healthcare costs
in the past and have never been able to get down to the level that insurance
paid.
To think that an individual would be able to pay the same price as a large
insurance company that has leverage over a doctor by
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote:
And because people cited it, it makes it more reputable?
This was an op/ed piece.
Op/ed != news
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually that site was cited many times during
I'd call it fact-checking, myself. Well, perhaps the lie of the year piece
was opinion. It's hard to see most untrue as anything but opinion. But you
seem to be saying that it's not untrue at all? That it's an opinion that
there are no death panels?
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Scott Stroz
Lets be clear, you are not paying $25 for the cleaning, your insurance
company is. You are paying the insurance company.
Even if you could negotiate down to $30, that would still be better,
would it not?
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
Nope, I am saying its opinion what they consider to be 'lie of the
year'. You can scatter facts around an op/ed piece, but that does not
make it NOT op/ed.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd call it fact-checking, myself. Well, perhaps the lie of the year
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think capitalism is evil...never have. I'm well aware though that
capitalism could really care less about my welfare.
You can chose a capitalist company that does.
So you're saying that they
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote:
I am sure if you tried to haggle for your teeth
cleaning, you might find a dentist who would agree to those terms.
Not necessarily. Docs agree to those terms because allowing a certain
insurance company opens their office
I haven't read it actually, but most anything pretty much has to be an
opinion if you can't quantify the anything. But that *was* a pretty huge
whopper and offhand I think they are right.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote:
Nope, I am saying its opinion what
They don't use facts to factcheck just biased opinions.
Seems like what Pailn was talking about is already happening in Texas.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/19/death-panels-exist-already/
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd call it
That article states that it's the hospitals decision and not the doctors.so
guess whatyou can haggle with the hospital! Capitalism WIN!
On Dec 21, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Sam wrote:
They don't use facts to factcheck just biased opinions.
Seems like what Pailn was talking about is
Summary: It's just like Sarah Palin said, only completely different! Run,
run for your lives!
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
They don't use facts to factcheck just biased opinions.
Seems like what Pailn was talking about is already happening in Texas.
Hence, the 'might'.
You can haggle for just about anything. Most of the time, you will not
be successful, but it does not mean you can not try.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:31 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote:
I am
Only you could chalk this up as government good, capitalists bad.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
That article states that it's the hospitals decision and not the
doctors.so guess whatyou can haggle with the hospital! Capitalism
How is it different?
In the end, government decides to ration care to save money.
Hospitals, insurance companies and doctors all have to fall in line or
work for free.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
Summary: It's just like Sarah Palin said, only completely
Frankly I thought that the author was being quite racist. he was
making a set of stereotypic assumptions based on someone's skin
colour.
As for the other part, the Aztecs were right up there with the Nazis
in terms of genocide. While the Spanish were not exactly innocent
either, the Aztec
So let me get this straight Sam. No responsibility lies with the panel of
doctors? Only the government for not legislating that life support go on
indefinitely regardless of the futility of it?
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Only you could chalk this up as
huh? This law gives the hospital authority to do what it wants to.
Deregulation of a capitalistic institution. This is what you advocate, is it
not?
So, if the hospital you're using wants to pull the plug on your relative, you
can find another hospital that won't. Right?
This article
I expected nothing less of you. Parroting RNC and tea party talking
points as usual. Well done I am sure your political masters would be
pleased.
Hey ignore the science and go for the political advantage.
What does the science say? And I mean the real science not your faith
based tripe you keep
I still don't understand where you get culpability from.
If the Spanish wiped out the Aztecs...what bearing does the Aztec
culture have on that act of Genocide?
Is your argument that the Aztecs were bad people therefore they
deserved to be wiped out?
2009/12/21 Larry C. Lyons
How is it different? Well Sarah Palin was basically saying that Obama wants
to kills your gramma. The article talks about a panel of doctors familiar
with the specific case that wish to supsend life support because in their
medical opinions it's futile. Flogging a dead horse so to speak. I don't
Larry, I have seen news broadcasts where member(s) of the panel
admitted the new recommendations would put more people at risk. YOu
would have to be a fool to think otherwise.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
I expected nothing less of you.
Are you saying that the Aztecs get a pass because they were also
victims of genocide?
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
I still don't understand where you get culpability from.
If the Spanish wiped out the Aztecs...what bearing does the Aztec
culture have on
the really stupid part of this is that what Palin was referring to was
a recommendation that seniors receive end of life counseling. Not how
to kill themselves etc but how to deal with stuff that will be
happening to them over the next while.
As for death panels doesn't that happen now with
You mean the death panel? Yes they are responsible. Now you agree it's
not the biggest lie of the year?
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
So let me get this straight Sam. No responsibility lies with the panel of
doctors? Only the government for not legislating
I guess for it to be relevant the people would need to be better defined.
What people will be at risk? The guy with a broken arm? Joe sixpack? I don't
think so. Will the recommendations put more veggies with no hope of
recovering at risk? Is that a bad thing from a medical perspective?
On Mon,
I've never mentioned the rights or wrongs of what the Aztecs may have done.
If you hold that genocide is a crime then it is a crime regardless of
who does it, of course.
2009/12/21 Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com:
Are you saying that the Aztecs get a pass because they were also
victims of
Many years ago I dated a girl who's argument style was simply to outlast. No
matter how many times you proved her logic faulty of her argument to be
without merit she would persist, going round and round and round. Eventually
you would just become exhausted and stop arguing. Basically siege
Funny, I think we dated the same girl.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
Many years ago I dated a girl who's argument style was simply to outlast. No
matter how many times you proved her logic faulty of her argument to be
without merit she would persist, going
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
huh? This law gives the hospital authority to do what it wants to.
Deregulation of a capitalistic institution. This is what you advocate, is it
not?
No. When did I say that?
So, if the hospital
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
I expected nothing less of you. Parroting RNC and tea party talking
points as usual. Well done I am sure your political masters would be
pleased.
Do you always have to start a discussion on the bottom rung?
Hey
Vivec wrote:
I've never mentioned the rights or wrongs of what the Aztecs may have done.
I think I agree with all of your points, but I agree with Larry too.
Because here's the bottom line:
All *humans* (no matter color) are prone to engage in genocide and/or
any other number of murderous
Death Panel: a panel of so-called experts to determine if you life is
worth the expense of continued treatment. - my definition
Flogging a dead horse? So you're for getting rid of the dead weight?
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
How is it different? Well
Actually Larry, the end-of-life counseling does include ending the life.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
the really stupid part of this is that what Palin was referring to was
a recommendation that seniors receive end of life counseling. Not how
So what about Trig while your weeding out the undesirables? Do you
think he's worthy of life?
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess for it to be relevant the people would need to be better defined.
What people will be at risk? The guy with a broken arm?
On Dec 21, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Sam wrote:
So, if the hospital you're using wants to pull the plug on your relative,
you can find another hospital that won't. Right?
This is true. But since most people can't pay for the extended care
they will have no option. Hospitals as capitalist
Now we've discovered you are all for weeding out the people in coma's.
What's next, people that can no longer give back to society.
What's odd is you've contributed nothing to this discussion and yet
you claim to have won it. Then you throw in a dismissing insult. Maybe
you need to re-think your
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
All *humans* (no matter color) are prone to engage in genocide and/or
any other number of murderous acts.
And per this author, any race or people who does engage in genocide
and/or any other number of murderous acts should
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, Sam, we agree I guess, because see, I think that govt. should be in
healthcare along with capitalism. Kinda like the post office. When I want
to get something delivered really really fast and be
I have recently started reading Orson Scott Card's Ender's series of
books (http://tinyurl.com/m4hz3u). I started by re-reading Ender's
Game over Thanksgiving, and then Speaker for the Dead shortly
after. I find a number of similarities in Speaker for the Dead and
Avatar.
Spoiler Warning (for
Avatar sounds like a high tech remake of Dances With Wolves.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote:
I have recently started reading Orson Scott Card's Ender's series of
books (http://tinyurl.com/m4hz3u). I started by re-reading Ender's
Game over
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:43 PM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
Avatar sounds like a high tech remake of Dances With Wolves.
Yes, made by white people, who should be forbidden to make such movies.
-Cameron
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Want to
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote:
Isn't melted falling snow called rain?
Picky picky.
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Well, isn't against God's law to even use life support? Aren't you really
slapping God in the face by saying I know you're trying to call one of your
children home, but I feel we'll keep him/her here in a vegetative state
instead.
Aren't Obama's death panels really doing God's work? Obviously
I am trying to finish something so I have not read Gel's article However, in
passing, I have the following perhaps irrelevant points:
1. I thought Ender's Games was great. I could not get through his other
books though, as I recall.
2. I have not seen Avatar.
3. There's a respectable case for
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote:
Yes, made by white people, who should be forbidden to make such movies.
Wellif someone would have stopped Costner after Field of Dreams and
DWWwe might have been spared The Postman and Waterworld.
--
We're
That reminds me of a funny story from when I worked as a paramedic.
I had a call for a guy who was obviously having a massive heart
attack, but he was refusing any treatment based on his religious views
(I do not recall what religion, though I am sure at the time he told
me).
Every time we
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Vivec wrote:
I still don't understand where you get culpability from.
If the Spanish wiped out the Aztecs...what bearing does the Aztec
culture have on that act of Genocide?
Is your argument that the Aztecs were bad people therefore they
deserved to be
The Aztecs were just mis-understood, their fathers were never
around...blah...blah...blah
I guess the ones who can never be 'victims' are white people.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Vivec wrote:
I still don't
I think I got a different point from the article and thus think it is
wrong for a different reason.
The point I got from this article was it is complaining about a member
of the privilege class going against his class and becoming a member of
the oppressed class. The author's issue seems to
A member of my wife's parish is joining the Franciscans and he has 2
dogs, Border Collie/Shepherd mix, that he needs to find a home for.
The dogs are brother and sister (or maybe brother and brother, or
sister and sister - I cannot remember) and are a few years old.
If anyone is interested,
The ruling on mammograms has had the opposite effect for some
carriers. Kaiser is running ads stating all our women get
mammograms'. So as usual, you're wrong.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Death panels are real and they are already fast at work.
Mammograms
Scott wrote:
The Aztecs were just mis-understood, their fathers were never
around...blah...blah...blah
Yeah, I mean James Cameron is Canadian and we all know Canadians are
chock full o' genocidal guilt.
(actually I was kidding there, but I think they did kill a bunch of
eskimos. I've
They actually killed a _whole_ bunch of Eskimo pies.
But they have rewritten history, since killing indigenous people is frowned
upon, but killing pies might disqualify you from nationalized healthcare.
Can't blame em, really.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com
You've confused me with Bettlejuice, for some strange reason he thinks
the recommendation of age forty for mm's forced ins co's to pay for
them. I tried to explain it more cost effective to catch cancer early.
What I was implying was that the so called public option plan would
ban early detection
Sam wrote:
What I was implying was that the so called public option plan would
ban early detection mm's. Since the PO would likely put most ins co's
out of biz that would eventually mean all plans.
Dammit Sam. I'm agreeing with you for the second time this week. And
I've read this whole
Some guy named Mike from Milwaukee, WI put together a 70-minute video
review discussing the many reasons why the movie was horrible. And
this isnt your usual fanboy rant, this is an epic, well-edited
well-constructed piece of geek film criticism. In fact, the way I
learned about the video was
Performance-enhancing substance use has attracted considerable
political and media attention. However, relatively little analysis of
the reasons for regulating substance use in professional sports
exists.
Most of the ostensible reasons for regulating performance-enhancing
substance use are
ha, I really don't think Maureen would ever confuse me for you :)
It really is amazing to me how you can read something...actually see the words,
yet come up with an entirely unrelated interpretation. You are something else
Sam.
I seem to remember you bringing up the issue of the new age
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
ha, I really don't think Maureen would ever confuse me for you :)
It really is amazing to me how you can read something...actually see the
words, yet come up with an entirely unrelated interpretation.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
Dammit Sam. I'm agreeing with you for the second time this week. And
I've read this whole thread.
I must be wrong then :) I'll have to review.
Nope I'm good.
See if all airlines asked $5000 for a ticket we'd all
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