Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Maureen
No matter what the Republicans promise, they cannot win the White House without a viable candidate, and right now they have none. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: 4. Republicans will win the White House in 2012 promising to repeal most of Obamacare.

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Maureen
Fiorina is running against Boxer. Meg Whitman is running against ex-governor Jerry Brown. Both former CEOs of tech companies. Neither know squat about governing. Whitman's ads about what she is going to do to solve the budget crisis are laughable. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Judah

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Maureen
The only thing most tech CEOs who are currently running in California know about jobs is how to outsource them. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I would think that the people who run the companies that would actually be creating the jobs might have a

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Vivec
Yes. These CEOs knew so much that they crashed the world financial markets. Since when do CEOs care two dicks about creating jobs? THey care about Profits and milking the consumers and the country of every single cent they can. If they could fire everyone and still get their work done and

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing most tech CEOs who are currently running in California know about jobs is how to outsource them. Because in the end the boss of the CEO is the share holder, not the employee. Intel Wed Jan 21, 2009

Boardwalk Empire

2010-09-23 Thread Rick Root
anyone else watch HBO's new series Boardwalk Empire? I caught the series premier last night, thought it was pretty good. Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
I'm sure you said that about Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43 (twice). Just a reminder, the Dems didn't have a viable candidate candidate the last go round and we're all suffering for it. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: No matter what the Republicans promise,

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
I did point out to you that politifact was exaggerating. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Difference is that Bachman's statements were shown to be lies, while Rangel has not been convicted of anything.  Maybe compare it to someone that was

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread G Money
I'm not suffering. Is anyone on this list actually suffering? And if so, is it Obamas fault you are suffering? Sam, how has Barack Obama, in 2 years, caused you suffering? Just curious. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure you said that about Reagan,

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
My suffering is from listening to you on your knees gagging about how great he is and how awful everyone who's not on the knee line is. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:51 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not suffering. Is anyone on this list actually suffering? And if so, is it Obamas

RE: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread Justin Scott
Pirates... sarcasm It's all just part of the show... like those vacations where you can arrange to be kidnapped and held hostage for a while and such. /sarcasm I think you're more likely to accidentally fall off the ship than to be attacked by pirates, unless your ship is going anywhere near

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Medic
Jealous much? On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: My suffering is from listening to you on your knees gagging about how great he is and how awful everyone who's not on the knee line is. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:51 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: I'm

Re: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
I can picture Eric falling off a ship. More than once. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote: Pirates... sarcasm It's all just part of the show...  like those vacations where you can arrange to be kidnapped and held hostage for a while and such.

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
No. Now get back in line. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: Jealous much? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread G Money
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: My suffering is from listening to you on your knees gagging about how great he is and how awful everyone who's not on the knee line is. Yep, that's me to a T! Well done Sam! -- Glittering prizes and endless compromises

RE: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread Sisk, Kris
Call me crazy, but I would think that a cruise ship would be a poor choice of targets for pirates. Too many people to try to control and too many places for potential troublemakers to hide. -Original Message- From: Justin Scott [mailto:jscott-li...@gravityfree.com] Sent: Thursday,

RE: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread Sisk, Kris
Gehthe thought that just jumped through my mind...Die Hard on a ship -Original Message- From: Sisk, Kris [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:05 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: OMG! Call me crazy, but I would think that a cruise ship would be a

RE: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread Justin Scott
Call me crazy, but I would think that a cruise ship would be a poor choice of targets for pirates. Too many people to try to control and too many places for potential troublemakers to hide. If I were a pirate, I might target a cruise ship for a hit and run attack to steal valuables, but I

Re: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread Cameron Childress
I've heard that pirate bears have been a real problem recently on cruise liners. Especially gay cruises. -Cameron On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Pirates... -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]

Re: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread G Money
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.comwrote: If I were a pirate, I might target a cruise ship for a hit and run attack to steal valuables, but I don't know if I'd want to hold it hostage. If there were a known high-profile passenger I might want to

RE: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread Justin Scott
Sounds like you've given this quite a lot of thought, Justin.. there something you want to tell us? Darn! I've been found out! Guess I will have to change careers now. ColdFusion programming and server administration looks promising, if not as adventurous. -Justin

Re: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread Medic
ColdFusion programming and server administration looks promising Coldfusion is a dying language. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: Coldfusion is a dying language. PlasmaType is all the rage! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread G Money
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: ColdFusion programming and server administration looks promising Coldfusion is a dying language. I did see that Adobe's shares plunged yesterday after a poor earnings report :/ -- Glittering prizes and endless

Re: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
So pirating CF server software is a dead end job? More suffering, thanks O. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: ColdFusion programming and server administration looks promising Coldfusion is a dying language.

Re: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: ColdFusion programming and server administration looks promising Coldfusion is a dying language. Red: I don't think you ought to be doing this to yourself, Andy. This is just shitty pipedreams. I mean, ColdFusion is way the

Tax cuts

2010-09-23 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
So, I was watching the news this morning and it was covering what was being termed as the republican battle plan. One of the big things on it was extending the Bush tax cuts. I myself don't understand why so many people are so big on this, but I figure, if they want them, let them pass them

Re: Tax cuts

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
Stop spending money we don't have is a good start. You're fine with $10 trillion on imaginary health care benefits with no way to pay for it but you demand a cut in service to allow people to hold on to their own money? Something sounds off. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Zaphod

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Judah McAuley
Ah, of course, my mistake. Whitman is responsible for the Skype acquisition. That was a master stroke of business genius. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: Fiorina is running against Boxer.  Meg Whitman is running against ex-governor Jerry Brown. Both

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Is anyone on this list actually suffering? And if so, is it Obamas fault you are suffering? The industry that I work in is directly impacted by the health care bill. In addition, my health insurance premiums were increased by more than the anticipated amount once it was passed. My wife had

Re: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread denstar
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: I've heard that pirate bears have been a real problem recently on cruise liners.  Especially gay cruises. lol. Ass pirates! Not as cool as ice pirates. :Den -- Owing to ignorance of the rope the rope appears to be a snake; owing

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Scott Stewart
we are, but I don't know that it's Congress' fault, we're being denied coverage for my daughter's nursing care (1 year old with a fresh trach tube, dr prescribed 24 hour nursing care), and it's something that may have been covered if it wasn't so close to the laws changing. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread G Money
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:53 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.comwrote: The industry that I work in is directly impacted by the health care bill. In addition, my health insurance premiums were increased by more than the anticipated amount once it was passed. My wife had to start

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Really? and how often do they listen to their bosses. Name me 5 cases where the CEO has been voted out by the shareholders over the last 10 years. or for that matter how often has a shareholder initiative been effected by a fortune 500 company? On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Casey Dougall

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps, but there is also a perception issue at play. For instance, it could be possible to ask 10 people if they think times are tough, and all 10 can say yes!. Then when you ask, are times tough for YOU, all ten answer

Re: OMG!

2010-09-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Last I heard about something like this the ship just went faster than the pirates. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote: Pirates... sarcasm It's all just part of the show...  like those vacations where you can arrange to be kidnapped and held

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread G Money
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: You would if there was a republican in office. You described me to a T! I'm a republican partisan shill! I mean, it's obvious from my posts over the years! Well done, Sam! -- Glittering prizes and endless compromises Shatter

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You are really foul. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: My suffering is from listening to you on your knees gagging about how great he is and how awful everyone who's not on the knee line is. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:51 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
in 7 that the most recent census identified as living in poverty: http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100923/ARTICLES/9231007/1002 - Census: 1 in 7 Americans lives in poverty http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/17/us/17poverty.html - Recession Raises Poverty Rate to a 15-Year High Tell

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread denstar
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Sam wrote: ... You would if there was a republican in office. I'd guess 90% of the suffering we see today is directly related to the last Republican in office. But it's cool-- people's memory is short, and that can be leveraged. The way of the world, I

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
You can't blame Bush anymore. His recession ended last year. This is not a recession, it's the way of life under Obama. And as he said it will last a long time. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:40 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: I'd guess 90% of the suffering we see today is directly

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread denstar
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: ... No, this is reality.  Stark, cold reality that some people won't acknowledge because they bought in to a dream and don't want to wake up from it. If you were expecting massive reform to be all sunshine and rainbows from the

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
I'd guess 90% of the suffering we see today is directly related to the last Republican in office. After this long in office, I don't buy that line. The current President has implemented his economic and social agenda so far as he has been able to, which is to say most of it. He has dug a

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
How do we know it's working? When we hit 50% unemployment? On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:54 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: ... No, this is reality.  Stark, cold reality that some people won't acknowledge because they

RE: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sisk, Kris
You're smarter than that Sam. The Bush recession is over, yes, but what we're seeing no is still a consequence of it. At this point the problem is that we haven't recovered from the damage the economy took under Bush. There's plenty of blame to go around, but Bush is the bearer of some of it. As

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread denstar
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Sam wrote: You can't blame Bush anymore. His recession ended last year. This is not a recession, it's the way of life under Obama. And as he said it will last a long time. It's not Bush I blame so much as the mentality. He was just a figurehead.

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
The recession was caused by the mandatory home loans to anybody that asked. Bush is only to blame for that because he didn't try hard enough to stop what the democrats put into action. The banks have recovered and are doing very well while Freddie and Fanny are still underwater. The TARP money

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
Name me 5 cases where the CEO has been voted out by the shareholders over the last 10 years. Bear Sterns in 2008. Too little too late since this happened in Jan and BS was absorbed by ML in Mar. Mecom in 2010 Bank of America 2009 HP 2010 Motorola 2008 Fannie May 2003 Citigroup 2007 Home depot

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Actually, I'd say that politicians are paid to create jobs, though not directly. Politicians are paid to foster a good economic environment, which is exactly where Obama has failed so miserably. Btw, I'm sure that

White House screwed salaried GM employees to benefit hourly workers

2010-09-23 Thread Robert Munn
From Michelle Malkin, your daily lesson in why not to allow the government to meddle in economic affairs. http://michellemalkin.com/2010/09/22/special-report-the-delphi-disaster-an-economic-horror-story-obama-wont-tell/ --- Paul Dobosz of the Delphi Salaried Retiree Association, which

Re: The List!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
Go on girl give it a kick. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Erika L. Rich elr...@ruwebby.com wrote: good good. I only need to hear when it isn't. So I can kick it into submission. :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

RE: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Eric Roberts
The bulk of the healthcare bill doesn't go into effect for 3 more years...so no one expected an immediate effect with that. Cash for Clunkers did help as GM is getting the bailout paid off. Fiscally, his policies haven't taken full effect yet. -Original Message- From: C. Hatton

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread G Money
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:57 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.comwrote: And now, we're told by experts, the recession ended in June of 2009! http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100920/bs_nm/us_usa_economy_nber - Recession ended in June 2009: NBER WE're not being told it's over...it IS

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Robert Munn
Meg Whitman built eBay from a little company into a tech giant. She created a hell of a lot more jobs than Obama. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Ah, of course, my mistake. Whitman is responsible for the Skype acquisition. That was a master stroke of

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
If those CEOs were actually paid to create jobs, I would agree. But they aren't, therefore it isn't really (necessarily) their area of expertise. CEO's are paid to make money. At various times, they are responsible for cutting jobs, off-shoring jobs, and creating jobs. They have to choose

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
What did the puppet master do to make a ten year depression? Something so bad that even the Obama can't get us out of it? Damn those string pullers! On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: It's not Bush I blame so much as the mentality.  He was just a

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Robert Munn
Our current problems are structural. Blame FDR and Johnson for Social Security and Medicare, and technology for making it possible to locate knowledge workers anywhere in the world. Blame short-sighted CEOs for chasing quarterly profits at the cost of our industrial base and increasingly our

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread denstar
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:57 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: I'd guess 90% of the suffering we see today is directly related to the last Republican in office. After this long in office, I don't buy that line.  The current President has implemented his economic and social agenda so far as he

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-23 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Difference is that Bachman's statements were shown to be lies, while Rangel has not been convicted of anything.  Maybe compare it to someone that was actually convicted and then you have some ground to stand

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
She's only allowed to make one mistake. If she was a dem she would only expected to make mistakes. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: Meg Whitman built eBay from a little company into a tech giant. She created a hell of a lot more jobs than Obama. On

RE: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sisk, Kris
Like I said, plenty of blame to go around. Both Obama and Bush have their shares. I think it'd be a hard sell to blame FDR and Johnson. If they had the bulk of the blame we would have seen a huge recession a lot sooner I think. -Original Message- From: Robert Munn

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Maureen
The consensus in the valley is that eBay would have been even more successful without Whitman and that in a lot of cases she did more harm than good. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: Meg Whitman built eBay from a little company into a tech giant. She

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
WE're not being told it's over...it IS over. You expect everything to be happy-happy-joy-joy the day the recession ends? No, but 20 months later I would have expected to see more private industry growth and lower unemployment. Maybe that's just me not being patient enough.

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
I call bullshit. Go to Ebay and ask around. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: The consensus in the valley is that eBay would have been even more successful without Whitman and that in a lot of cases she did more harm than good.

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
But trickle down works, and we should trust CEOs to have *our* best interests at heart.  Sure... Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say that, nor did anything that I said imply that. I'm not making a case of equivalence nor do I ask you to. CEO's should have their stock-holders best

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
So what percentage do you think it would have been without the stimulus? Does anyone have any proof one way or the other what it would have been? On Sep 23, 2010, at 11:57 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: The stimulus was supposed to keep unemployment under 8% - it didn't. Cash for clunkers

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
No matter what the Republicans promise, they cannot win the White House without a viable candidate, and right now they have none. The GOP has a fantastic history of nominating people who seem destined to lose. Bob Dole. Give me a break. The sad thing is, he probably would have won if Perot

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
epilogue: After winning the White House, Republicans will go off on some foolish social values wedge issue and turn independent voters against them, insuring Democrats a mid-term win in 2014. Just like clockwork. J - No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:03 PM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: WE're not being told it's over...it IS over. You expect everything to be happy-happy-joy-joy the day the recession ends? Uh yeah, that's the way it usually works. I'm baffled as to why you would think suddenly a shitty

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
That's cute. Is that your argument? You can't prove it's 0's fault so he's not to blame. I bet you still blame Bush without that kind of proof. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote: So what percentage do you think it would have been without the

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
As for McCain, remember that John McCain's lifetime American Conservative Union (ACU) rating is 82.3%. So what are you saying that the ACU isn't conservative? On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: No matter what the Republicans promise, they cannot win the

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
Too true. That's why the Tea Party is trying to flush the RINO's out. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: epilogue: After winning the White House, Republicans will go off on some foolish social values wedge issue and turn independent voters against

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
We'll be feeling the effects of the last administration for at least 10 years, remember? That's the problem. Seem like almost everybody but a select few want to pick one party to blame. There is plenty of blame to spread around and it goes back further than one administration. For example,

RE: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sisk, Kris
Are you TRYING to give us all nightmares? -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:58 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you! -snip- Watch out for a bipartisan Palin/Clinton tiicket.

RE: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Eric Roberts
that to the 1 in 7 that the most recent census identified as living in poverty: http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100923/ARTICLES/9231007/1002 - Census: 1 in 7 Americans lives in poverty http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/17/us/17poverty.html - Recession Raises Poverty Rate to a 15-Year High Tell

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
Well then that makes it OK. Move along, nothing to see here. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: The dropping of coverage on children is actually a 3 month old story...not a week old one.

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread denstar
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Sam wrote: What did the puppet master do to make a ten year depression?  Something so bad that even the Obama can't get us out of it? I'm not talking solely about the economy. I'm talking about America, yo! Lord, man, look at all the hubbub about we need

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread denstar
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: We'll be feeling the effects of the last administration for at least 10 years, remember? That's the problem.  Seem like almost everybody but a select few want to pick one party to blame.  There is  plenty of blame to spread around and it

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:54 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: What did the puppet master do to make a ten year depression?  Something so bad that even the Obama can't get us out of it? I'm not talking solely about the economy.  I'm talking about America, yo! So it's an emotional

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: Politicians are paid to foster a good economic environment, which is exactly where Obama has failed so miserably. He's doing his thing, a lot STILL falls on the state level... If you want to attract business to an area,

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Actually, I'd say that politicians are paid to create jobs, though not directly. Politicians are paid to foster a good economic environment,

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread denstar
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Sam wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:54 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: What did the puppet master do to make a ten year depression?  Something so bad that even the Obama can't get us out of it? I'm not talking solely about the economy.  I'm

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: Totally. And if you don't think so, you'll probably DIE! We're all DOOMED, man, DOOMED! You'd better get right with God, esse! ;)p :Den Bob Dylan, Everything is Broken - Commentary Breakdown

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Actually, I'd say that politicians are paid to create jobs, though not directly. Politicians are paid to foster a good economic environment,

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Speaking of fostering a good economic environment, tell me all the reasons why only 1 Republican voted in the House today to provide tax breaks to small business and create a fund to help provide credit access to

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com bloviated: Lord, man, look at all the hubbub about we need God back in government!, etc.. You misrepresent this all the time, they want people to stop attacking religion and allow people to say Merry Christmas. They're not trying to

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And what will happen when the corporate welfare, knows as tax subsidies, ends. Chances are AMD will be out of there so fast that they'll leave burn marks in the pavement. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Casey Dougall ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:18 PM,

o'donell's greatest hits!

2010-09-23 Thread Ras Tafari
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/christine-odonnells-greatest-hits-video.php hahahahahah baaahahahahahahahaah seriously delaware??? really?? wtf is this weirdo talking about?!?!?! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

Re: o'donell's greatest hits!

2010-09-23 Thread Maureen
Is it just me, or does she bear a striking resemblance to Marie Osmond? Maybe that's why all the old fogey's voted for her. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/christine-odonnells-greatest-hits-video.php

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Robert Munn
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: \ The recession ended 6 months into Obama's term. Unemployment peaked in October 2009, 9 months into Obama's term. If Obama was really so bad for the economic environment, the opposite would be true, things would get

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
So you have no objections to shoving the Christian religion down the throats of those who are not Christian? So you have no objections to atheism (or the organized religion that atheism has become... active advertising to fix Christians is prosthelytizing in my eyes which makes it a religion)

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Organized? You have got to be kidding. I was also referring to people who are followers of Hinduism, Buddhism, basically any of the non-Christian religions. as for the stuff about advertising, so its OK for the Methodists or Catholics or Mormons to advertise, but not those who do not believe in

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Robert Munn
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Like I said, plenty of blame to go around. Both Obama and Bush have their shares. I think it'd be a hard sell to blame FDR and Johnson. If they had the bulk of the blame we would have seen a huge recession a lot sooner I

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Organized? You have got to be kidding. Nope - http://www.atheists.org/ - American Atheists http://www.atheistalliance.org/ - Atheist Alliance International http://www.causes.com/causes/421 - American Atheist Organization http://www.americanhumanist.org/ - American Humanist Alliance I was also

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
The small business bill would lend small business their own money back and charge interest while regulating how they can spend the money. Instead they should extend the tax cuts and let them spend their money how they see fit. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Casey Dougall

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: So it's an emotional thingy that you can't really explain but you know it ruined this country. Not ruined, but pushed us pretty far down a dark path. You and your dark path. Stay away from the black hash dude :) Fear

Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
Not me, those buildings in DC were built a long time ago. Why does it bother this generation? On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com bloviated: So you have no objections to shoving the Christian

no tax relief until after the election

2010-09-23 Thread Robert Munn
Apparently Democrats have given up on the idea of extending any of the tax cuts until after the election. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703384204575509793142421332.html Democrats abandoned plans to vote before Election Day on extending Bush-era tax cuts for the middle class

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Eric Roberts
So at the end of 2009, 600,000 jobs were created and so far in 2010, 500,000 jobs have been created (1,100,000 for he math impaired righties) . How many jobs did Meg Whitman create? Well in 2008, when she stepped down, Ebay had over 15,000 employees. I think she fell a bit short Robert...

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Sam
We lost 5 million jobs in the last two years. Add the 1.1 million you brag about and that's -3.9 million. Looks like Meg wins. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: So at the end of 2009, 600,000 jobs were created and so far in 2010, 500,000

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