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On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I am judging them. Especially Rush, that fat weak-minded lazy sack of
shit.
If you're judging from one point in time than you and he are the same.
You were both overweight and then both did something about it. So
Jamaica
West Germany
Canada
On Saturday, January 28, 2012, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
I forgot Macedonia.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been through it, and wouldn't mind going back for another look. I
kind
of liked Milwaukee, for
On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
And, no, it didn't take me 5 years to gain control. I had control the
moment I decided to take responsibility.
Point taken. It took five years to achieve control. Better?
Not really.
The point is, if you have to work for a
However many forms of obesity are not just a matter of eating properly
or exercising. Also like in many places if you have not learned what
is healthy and how to balance intake with exercise etc., and all your
food choices are unhealthy ones, then chances of becoming obese is
very good.
The
Also look at the contents of most fruit juices sold in the US - mostly sugar.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree. It is much more complicated than drinking fruit juice. Drinking
fruit juice isn't a weight-loss or a fitness plan. It's a drop in the ocean
Actually in many places that's the only sort of food that's available.
For instance in certain areas of DC there are no grocery stores, only
convenience stores that have very little fresh food that's typically
overpriced. So if you're on a very limited budget, and there is
nothing else in a
I think you nailed it Gruss.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
Limbaugh?? The dude is super wealthy and he's STILL a fatty? He could
afford the best chefs, the best equip, the best foods ...
Come on, if that guy is a fatty (or an addict) then he's
On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I am judging them. Especially Rush, that fat weak-minded lazy sack of
shit.
If you're judging from one point in time than you and he are the same.
On Jan 29, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
many forms of obesity are not just a matter of eating properly
or exercising.
That is always said in a way that makes people think like me. Bullshit.
Percentage-wise you've got a 99.99% chance of being fat because you
I have the same app. try turning on the satellites option.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
This iPad app is awesome. I'm out on my deck over looking beautiful downtown
san Jose and silicon valley and despite the light I can see all kinds of
awesome
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Ooo! Awesome!
On Jan 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
I have the same app. try turning on the satellites option.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
This iPad app is awesome. I'm out on my deck over looking
Lots of places. Used to travel somewhere annually, either on a
musical tour, ski trip or a cruise. Planning another trip for this
spring - England, France and Germany. I've also been to all the
states except Montana, North and South Dakota, Idaho and Alaska.
Canada
England
Ireland
Wales
Gruss. This is not about me. I've lost 45 pounds this year, so I have an
idea what works for me. I have however had problems losing weight in the
past, sure, and have talked to quite a few people about theirs. Based on
that I tried to educate you a little, and ya, I should have known better.
II
Oh all right, I'll play countries too
France
Belgium
Netherlands
England
Scotland
Denmark
Germany
Switzerland
Canada
Mexico (not border towns or resorts)
All of those for at least a week, some more than once. Lived in several for
more than a year. Drove through Luxembourg once, shrug.
On Sat,
Oh
add Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Pakistan (for a few minutes on acident on
patrol)
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh all right, I'll play countries too
France
Belgium
Netherlands
England
Scotland
Denmark
Germany
Switzerland
Canada
Mexico (not
I don't think I said there is one right way, there isn't, but maybe it didn't
come across right.
That said it is conceptually simple: eat less than you burn and you will lose
*weight*. That's it.
Doing it - executing - AND optimizing for body composition while earning a
living, working on
Before you said he's lazy and he doesn't have to work, yet he does.
He also lost weight and off the drugs.
Since you don't like him, probably because he's right more times than
you ever will be, you insult him by calling him a fatty. Do you not
see using that as an insult goes against the
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I am judging them. Especially Rush, that fat weak-minded lazy sack of
shit.
If you're judging from one point in time than you and he are the same.
Maybe, but ive far exceeded any accomplishment he'll ever have
On Jan 29, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Dune, you need to stop watching TV it messing up you mind.
Somehow that sentence makes me want to watch a LOT more TV.
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lol... you accidentally strayed into all of them, separately? Seriously,
just Pakistan, right?
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:25 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh
add Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Pakistan (for a few minutes on acident on
patrol)
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Dana
I mean... I am not questioning that you were in Kyrgyzstan or Uzbekistan,
but those weren't accidents, right? The way you put it just made me laugh,
like you went on walkabout and accidentally hit all three before you came
back ;) ... and shaky though my geography of the area may be, you'd need
Actually... I kind of agree with Sam on this oneThe TV, that is, not so
much Rush. But now I know I need a nice cup of tea or something, lol.
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 29, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Dune, you need
Just pakistan on accident, the others were coming and going from Afg.
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
I mean... I am not questioning that you were in Kyrgyzstan or Uzbekistan,
but those weren't accidents, right? The way you put it just made me laugh,
like
Actually sweeting tomato sauce is common, but I have always said that if you
need to sweeten your tomato sauce, you probably shouldn't be making it. If
done right, it doesn't need anything to sweeten it. So if you are buying
premade sauce, if it is sweetened, more than likely it has HFCS. I
Has anyone here researched this topic? I have a dog who is getting old now
that just got a prescription for Rimadyl, which costs over $200 a month and
beyond the cost seems to have some really serious risks and side effects.
Googling got me the info that when we tried aspirin we may not have been
yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If I am going to eat
something that's not good for me, I can think of things I would enjoy more
than tomato sauce ;) But I seem to remember reading that they were starting
to call high fructose corn syrup something else now, anyone know anything
Sometimes it is the only choice or you don't eat. Ironically enough, when I
am in that situation, it is usually because I have to go to the hospital for
blood tests in the morning and can't eat before them as they are fasting
and have to stop and get some breakfast on the go on my way back to
It's only a different country if you are a birther LOL
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:22 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Where've you been?
For the purposes of this question I propose that Hawaii count as another
Culvers is in IL too...Chicago has just about every fest you can think of
and probably a few you haven't hehehe. I have seen Tyme machines in other
states...I think it was Indiana...so that isn't a Wisconsin only thing. We
have American Sales here too... But yeah...they are their own country
You obviously don't have knee or hip issues...
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
This point is key: the misinformation is rampant.
That said, when I got to the
There is an android app that does that, I forget he name offhand, google sky
or something like that...that is pretty awesome.
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:28 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Go Sky Watch
This iPad app
When my dog tore a ligament in his knee, we gave him one of my vicoden
(5mg/500 mg Tylenol at the time) and that was ok. There are several sites
out there if you google dogs and pain relievers. My dog is a rotterman, so
he is a big dog, so depending on your dog's size, the upper limits will
Corn Sugar...
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From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If I am going to eat
something that's not good for me, I can think of
HFCS are evil. I try to avoid them when I can, but it is pretty hard to
avoid them completely. We even, when we drink soda, make our own using a
Sodastream machine...their syrups have less sugar for the regular ones (zero
for the diet syrups) and do not contain HFCS. Most of the time we just
Tylenol is ok then? So far the most interesting alternative I am seeing is
Tramadol, though I have not looked into price or availability yet. There
seem to be a LOT of horrible side effects for NSAIDs in dogs, up to and
including death, so if I'm going to spend a bunch of money on this problem
Yeah, Larry actually opened my eyes to that a few years back. I've actually
been trying to just expand the raw-food diet I've been on to include some
protein, but that does jack up the grocery bill quite a bit. Label reading
is at least a partial solution I guess. I just well... personally it
Yep...tramadol is commonly used. I have taken tramadol, but it didn't do
much for me hehehe. It is as about as low level of a narcotic pain reliever
as you can get. There is a version of vicoden that has lower levels of
Tylenol (or none at al). The vocoden I take now has more vicoden and less
oh it's lower than vicodin? Hmm. I have some pain meds I'm not taking
anymore because the fracture splinters moved and aren't impinging my spinal
cord anymore, but I suspect these may be too strong. And I haven't see them
mentioned as an option. She's a good old dog -- don't wanna poison the
But they all started in Wisconsin! Like beer.
On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:
Culvers is in IL too...Chicago has just about every fest you can think of
and probably a few you haven't hehehe. I have seen Tyme machines in other
states...I
Knee, yes, hip no. That's how got into weight training - the only way I can
put off knee replacement is quad work and getting back to a symmetric lower
posterior chain.
I also have a back issue no doctor has been able to isolate without exploratory
surgery ; deads help but I have to really
Wait... weren't you just complaining that he practiced the politics
of division,
or something like that? You're entitled to not like the guy, but you get
bonus points if your reasons aren't mutually contradictory.
My views of him are not contradictory and are pretty easy to pick up. I
don't
Don't worry about HFCS ... Any more than any other sweetener that is.
It's just like cane sugar, beet sugar, maple sugar, agave sugar, etc etc.
They're all sugar: a mix of sucrose/fructose, usually about 50/50.
It's the fructose (without fiber) that kills you. Literally. Stay away from
all
Tramadol. We brought our dog through 2 rounds of chemo (madison gold protocol)
and an intussusception surgery and recovery with it. He made it 2 years and
was a 5%er. Bronco was a real trooper.
On Jan 29, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:
Yea...crappy beer. Sausage and cheese are about the only good things out of
WI hehehe
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Where've you been?
But they all started in Wisconsin! Like
Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA
scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)
The supposed consensus on man-made global warming is facing an
inconvenient challenge after the release of new temperature data showing
the planet has not
I liked living in San Jose. Have you officially moved out here? A
lunch of all the California bunch would be fun.
I am giving serious thought to relocating to Santa Cruz. Have you
driven over the hill to the ocean yet?
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
NSAIDs aren't good for anyone. They eat the lining out of the
stomach. I am convinced they are only marketed to increase the demand
for Prilosec and Nexium.
Be careful with Tylenol dosing as it can kill the the liver.
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
So we should be pumping even MORE greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere to
counter the coming mini ice age?
On 29 January 2012 23:51, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA
scientists are right the Thames will be
The liver is apparently a big concern with NSAIDs too, at least in dogs. In
humans I gather they are more dangerous to the kidneys. But the choices as
presented are: surgery, $2000-$8000, might kill her, vet may or may not
agree to even attempt it because of her age; NSAIDs, $200+ a month, likely
Mostly official - i live in an apt in downtown sj and we sold our house in MN,
although I'll still be doing some commuting back.
It's nice here since I can mostly work out of my apt and then there's one of
our offices just 7 blocks away - Very cool compared to a 45 min commute. Plus
I do a
Just a reminder about a post I wrote a year ago. If the dailymail says
it, double check with a reputable newspaper.
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:31391
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
Forget global warming -
And here those silly glaciers are caving off chunks the size of connecticut!
They've even let themselves melt so much that the northwest passage is open for
the first time since ... Ever.
Glaciers never consider the real data.
On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com
nuh uh, been down that road and couldn't figure out why I kept gaining
weight. Your mileage may vary and apparently does but the science is on
Larry's side on this:
http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/
My views of him are not contradictory and are pretty easy to pick up. I
don't know how anyone can even began to come to that conclusion.
Apparently not.
Let me ask this: In your opinion, who was Alinsky trying to help and did
it work?
Who knows? Depends on what communities it was
You're right - here's the key point from wiki on table sugar:
In humans and other mammals, sucrose is broken down into its constituent
monosaccharides,glucose and fructose
HFCS can really be all sorts of mixes but lets say it's HFCS 55: that means 55%
fructose and 45% glucose. In other words
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