Re: Barack's policies improving employment

2012-11-02 Thread Vivec
So because the official numbers , which are verified, are looking too good, you now have to add some nebulous additional factor? Unemployment is unemployment. Looking at speculative "non participation of the labour force" is ridiculous. When you add those figures to the unemployment under Bush whe

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Maureen
I've never lacked for fun. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > There are times I really wonder about your private life mo - gag > balls, handcuffs? What's next? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology n

RE: Barack's policies improving employment

2012-11-02 Thread Eric Roberts
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RE: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread Eric Roberts
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Re: Barack's policies improving employment

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
Really? You present a facebook graph as an argument? http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/10/11/obamas-real-unemployment-rate-is-14-7-and-a-recessions-on-the-way/ or this: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/080312-621034-real-unemployment-much-higher-than-white-house-claims.htm?p

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
Could be right. I never had love for the man. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Here is my take on it. > > Christie, (not so) secretly wants Pres.Obama to get re-elected. That sets > him up for a run in 2016. If Gov. Romney wins, that makes it less likely he > has a shot

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
If so that would not be good. I just read a blurb about it. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I was referring to the football game. > > Last I heard, they still did not have power at the stadium, and getting it > working will use resources that could maybe be used elsewhe

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Hey, anyone that can make political points BY doing the right thing is the good kind of politician. And I don't think he has either sold out or pandered. >From here, he is acting like a Governor of a desperately hard hit state doing his best to get fast and effective help for his people. He is

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:46 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > I'm talking about selling out to the Obama campaign and totally pandering > to a man he is supposed to be ideologically opposed to, even going so far > as to endorse him. When you are in a crisis you need to step above the fray. I don't blame

Re: Barack's policies improving employment

2012-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
if you compare the rate to other large scale economic downturns, while not as good as the previous one, the current climb is much better than what happened in the great depression, given the same time period. In fact, the great depression offered a natural experiment. In 1936-1937, the government

Re: Barack's policies improving employment

2012-11-02 Thread GMoney
we lost 800,000 jobs in ONE MONTH Jesus...i'd forgotten just how bad it was. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Actually guys, > > Here's the truth and a graph showing exactly what happened with the > unemployement rate since Barak took office. > > Sam, for you in particular

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
Here is my take on it. Christie, (not so) secretly wants Pres.Obama to get re-elected. That sets him up for a run in 2016. If Gov. Romney wins, that makes it less likely he has a shot in 2016. While I applaud what he has done so far (and I never liked the guy), I don;t think his recent actions a

Re: Barack's policies improving employment

2012-11-02 Thread Vivec
Actually guys, Here's the truth and a graph showing exactly what happened with the unemployement rate since Barak took office. Sam, for you in particular :) https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/196160_10151246112671749_2101778253_n.jpg http://www.barackobama.com/jobsrecord A

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
I was referring to the football game. Last I heard, they still did not have power at the stadium, and getting it working will use resources that could maybe be used elsewhere. Also, before, during and after the game there will be a need for emergency workers (police, fire & EMS). I understand th

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
The LES is screwed too I hear. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:08 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > I've also got some friends in dirty jersey through the music scene and > shit. They are saying Little Ferry is really bad, his uncles house is > gone, another's 65 stang is still under water, house screwed. > > >

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
I've also got some friends in dirty jersey through the music scene and shit. They are saying Little Ferry is really bad, his uncles house is gone, another's 65 stang is still under water, house screwed. http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/shocking-before-after-photos-of-hurricane-sandy On Fri, Nov 2

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
I'm talking about selling out to the Obama campaign and totally pandering to a man he is supposed to be ideologically opposed to, even going so far as to endorse him. Powell and Rice too, man your team is really falling to shit behind Mittens, no one wants that guy, at least the lefties like thei

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
Not sure. You talking about the football game? Sounds like it won't use needed resources and will entertain people for a few hours. Not everyone is volunteering and may get stir crazy. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > So Sam, I want to hear your opinion on something I thin

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
My mom told me that some gas stations are only selling gas to people with gas cans for generators (no pulling up to your car to fill up). Of course, nothing is to stop them from filling up the car with those cans, but I like the sentiment. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Sam wrote: > > The fu

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
Aye...I also think the Giants/Steelers football game should be postponed or moved for the same reasons (and I am an avid Giants fan). In the wake of Katrina, they moved the Saints/Giants game to Giants Stadium, I see no reason why they can't move this one to Heinz Field. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
So Sam, I want to hear your opinion on something I think we might actually both agree about, Gov. Christie's recent actions, how do you feel about them? On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:24 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > That marathon shit is pissing me off. total misuse of emergency equipment > during a time o

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
That marathon shit is pissing me off. total misuse of emergency equipment during a time of very real need. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Sam wrote: > > The fuel shortages are because many stations have no power to run the > pumps. Not sure why they can't get generators. I know Bloomy has > se

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
Love these folks: http://www.facebook.com/Nyc2012MarathonOfRelief If the city refuses to cancel or postpone the marathon, despite an entire list of reasons why now isn’t the time, it’s up to us to use the marathon as an opportunity to bring much needed relief and continued visibility to various

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread Cameron Childress
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > This may sound odd (and admittedly even a bit selfish), but when I watch > the news or see pictures of the aftermath of the storm, I feel as if part > of my life has been ripped away from me - leaving me with kind of an empty > feeling inside.

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
The fuel shortages are because many stations have no power to run the pumps. Not sure why they can't get generators. I know Bloomy has several massive generators on the side waiting for the f'n marathon. I'm a Freeport boy myself. They got hit pretty hard. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:59 PM, LRS

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
A friends wife: We have extended the donation drive! Tomorrow as well 11-3 at McCanns in Massapequa 5590 Merrick Road thank you!!! Please copy and re-post to help those in need right now. Dry food, canned food, cloths, blankets , bottled waterIt's about helping another person in need right no

Re: Barack's policies improving employment

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
Yeah, I thought the analysis of those numbers showed the initial reporting to be pretty flawed. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "You can't seriously claim a rise in unemployment is good?" > > It's called "doublethink". "1984" Read it or read it again. > > > Oh, and un

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
Oh and by the way there are very open public calls for food and other donations being made, I've linked stories on my FB and have personal ties to the area. Food, fuel, blankets and medical supplies are being sought out. Why is it that we see the same thing over and over again? Under reporting

Re: Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
First responders, ER personnel, cops, soldiers, the class that are the real servants of the people... We regularly do and see things that are not within the norm for the vast majority, and it leaves it's mark. However, usually the choice to fulfill one of these roles is motivated by things h

Re: Barack's policies improving employment

2012-11-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
"You can't seriously claim a rise in unemployment is good?" It's called "doublethink". "1984" Read it or read it again. Oh, and unemployment did not fall last month. J - Do we really think that a government-dominated education is going to produce citizens capable of dominating their gover

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Didn't Bloomberg outlaw donations to soup kitchens for that asinine reason?" No. He outlawed soup kitchens. It's because the salt content might have been too high in what was served. That is not a joke. "They had the number to text donations to the red cross all over the place. Just because

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
"How on earth can you justify attacking a man for helping out?" Desperate times call for desperate measures. J - We can't help everyone, but everyone can help someone. - Ronald Reagan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology

Super Storm Sandy

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
As most of you probably know, I am originally from NJ. I grew up in Northern Monmouth county, worked for 14 years as a paramedic in Monmouth and Ocean counties (mostly along the shore) and lived in Toms River, NJ (on the western side of town) for 6 years. I know dozens of people - family, friends

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
With current ROEs even armed and not presenting a threat I'd probably go to jail. This was a big problem in Iraq where the right to have an AK is firm, and one that I support and was needed when you consider the killings and rapes and thefts that were and are going on all the time. RPGs, crew se

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Even dismissing all the studies that have that error, the ones left still show the same relationships, just not as quite as strong. That said, I disagree with how they aggregated the data. In fact I am not sure whether the approach they used was at all appropriate in a meta analysis. The assumptio

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Sam wrote: > . > > You're argument is valid... > > I am gonna save this forever and ever :D -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder what the f*&k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris http://xkcd.com/

RE: Ghost on Mars

2012-11-02 Thread Eric Roberts
That is so awesome having these hi res images on another planet. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com ---

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
That's not what the study found or why it was commissioned. Firth was on a radio show and said conservatives are idiots, then he decided to prove it by paying for a study that backed up his comment. People think differently and use different parts of the brain. But this study based on fMRI, aka j

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
Unarmed, lack of threat or uniform? I'd have gone to prison for killing someone like that as a soldier. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > OK a bit more of a clarification then, people getting bombed, 3 miles > behind the front line. They are not carrying side arms or ri

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
I will admit, Larry's summary does sound a bit skewed, but that does not mean the study is 'junk' How is this for a good summary. People with liberal views tend to have commonalities in their brain physiology that differs form the commonalities of brain physiology of people with conservative vie

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
The study showed that using fMRI research doesn't work, you can easily pull out whatever result you want from each study. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I found a copy of the study Sam was citing. It was very interesting. > the author had some very valide criticisms

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I found a copy of the study Sam was citing. It was very interesting. the author had some very valide criticisms. One thing that was still critical however and the authors provided this data themselves was that when you looked a the studies without the non independence error, as they termed it, the

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
Here's how Larry described it: It makes perfect sense in a why. There is some neuropsych research that's I've mentioned before that did functional MRI's on self identified conservatives and progressives. What the researchers found was that the areas of the brain that deal with processing fear and

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
But, Sam, that is not what the study is stating, that is what you are saying it is stating. In a nut shell, it says, for the most part, liberals and conservatives have different political beliefs because their brains are built differently. And that, for the most part, members of each 'group' seem

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
OK a bit more of a clarification then, people getting bombed, 3 miles behind the front line. They are not carrying side arms or rifles. One of them happens to be an American citizen serving with them. What is the difference? On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:43 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > His dad made that

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
It's saying liberals are open minded and conservatives are closed minded. That's as bad as it gets. But we know for a fact this bogus science was just used to back up a bad opinion and has no basis in fact. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I do not think the results of t

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
His dad made that clear, not the kid. I would have the same problem if this were done through direct fire. The kid was targeted based on "patterns" in a "profile" attack. Not evidence. There is no evidence that he himself had been active as a bad guy. The kid didn't say he was at war with th

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
At the same time in all honesty what is the difference between taking the kid out with a missile and having a sniper do the same in a conflict zone? They had already made it clear they were at war with the United States, the US was just returning the favour. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:45 PM, LRS S

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Thank you. That is what I've been trying to drive into people's heads. Its an elegant way of explaining why all things considered equal, why people are attracted to different opinions/ideologies. It may even give us a predictive model to use. Sorry going all mad scientist on you guy here. To me th

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
I'm complaining about the general state of the republic. Things are generally pretty fucked up man. The first email provided the complaints, granted without sources, but easily verifiable. I've stayed away from the more farfetched conspiracy theory ideas. If you don't see the republic is in di

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Exactly, no better or worse, just how we process information differently. those who have a greater tolerance for ambiguity and a possibly more attracted to nuanced logic, (as expected with a more active anterior cyngulate gyrus) may be attracted to the progressive ideologies. In contrast those who

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
I stand by what I said, Your initial bulleted list was, for the most part, very general. The links you provided do, indeed, speak to specific items in the list, but the fact still remains, the list you posted is still chock full of generalities. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:45 PM, LRS Scout wrote

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
I do not think the results of the study showed which political opinion was 'smarter', rather that differing physiology may explain why the differing opinions exist in the first place. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Sam wrote: > > Agreed, but trying to determine which political opinion is the

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
::crickets:: On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:45 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > I'm pretty generally against the idea that the government can just whack > you without due process, can search you without a warrant, detain you > without a trial, and take your shit without a conviction. > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 a

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
Agreed, but trying to determine which political opinion is the smarter one is plain ole stupid. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > At the 100,000 foot overview, I really don't think it is outside the realm > of possibility that the physiology of our brain affects how we th

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
At the 100,000 foot overview, I really don't think it is outside the realm of possibility that the physiology of our brain affects how we think. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Sam wrote: > > > http://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=view_citation&hl=en&user=4MrZ9zMJ&citation_for_view=

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
http://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=view_citation&hl=en&user=4MrZ9zMJ&citation_for_view=4MrZ9zMJ:u5HHmVD_uO8C The idea is that Conservatives think with the fear portion of the brain, fear is often caused by ignorance but not always, while liberals are open minded and acceptable t

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
That should have started with 'But as far as I can tell...' On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > Best as I can tell, the study did not say that conservatives were > 'idiots', merely that it seemed that the physiology of the brain between > 'liberals' and 'conservatives' was di

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
Best as I can tell, the study did not say that conservatives were 'idiots', merely that it seemed that the physiology of the brain between 'liberals' and 'conservatives' was different. Something I don't think is really all that hard to believe. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Sam wrote: > > H

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
He commissioned the research to prove his point that conservatives are idiots. The result was a Columbia research lab proved the use of fMRI data was bogus science. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:48 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Yeah he was involved in the research somehow. > > We had a lengthy thread

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
I would go with cute instead of nice but since he didn't read the study I'd say that is also wrong. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:37 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > nice!! > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:25 PM, GMoney wrote: > >> >> Uh, no comment was made about intelligence, only responses in different

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
Yeah he was involved in the research somehow. We had a lengthy thread about it a while ago. Some of us were concerned over the small sample size and wondered about the questions and methodology used in the study. The people that liked the study argued for it, those that didn't like the study ar

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
That produced...nothing.. http://screencast.com/t/qfvD1mLi On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Sam wrote: > > Search the archives for Colin Firth > > . > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > Links to the 'debunking'? > > > >

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
I'm pretty generally against the idea that the government can just whack you without due process, can search you without a warrant, detain you without a trial, and take your shit without a conviction. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I saw a list of general accusations, wi

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
Colin Firth the actor? On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Sam wrote: > > Search the archives for Colin Firth > > . > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > Links to the 'debunking'? > > > > ~| Order the

Re: Chrysler exec calls out GOP on car industry

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
Thanx, Sam. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Sam wrote: > > http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/chrysler-paid-in-full/ > > . > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > Source for that? > > > > ~| Order the

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
nice!! On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:25 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Uh, no comment was made about intelligence, only responses in different > areas of the brain to different stimuli. > > Conservatives can still be really smart, but different parts of their > brains seem to be activated differently in res

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
Search the archives for Colin Firth . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Links to the 'debunking'? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272

Re: Chrysler exec calls out GOP on car industry

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/chrysler-paid-in-full/ . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Source for that? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
I haven't let any ground go. The last couple of statements were provocative, intentionally so. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Sam wrote: > > He insults you and you apologize? Stand your ground man. > > . > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:44 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > > You are correct. > > > >

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-02 Thread LRS Scout
Very few specifics? Ok let's try this then: - The murder of a 16 year old American citizen without due process- http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/abdulrahman-al-awlaki-death-10470891 - Gen. Ham - (still a "rumor" but it's got legs) http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/10/has_general_ham_

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
Links to the 'debunking'? On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Sam wrote: > > It's junk science because it's been debunked. That's what happens when > you commission a study you all ready know the answer to. Biased > science. > > . > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:25 PM, GMoney wrote: > > > > Uh, no

Re: Chrysler exec calls out GOP on car industry

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
Source for that? On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Sam wrote: > > Because Obama forgave part of the debt. > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > I could only find this article from Forbes back in August that stated > > 'fulfilled their debt obligations' Not sure how

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
It's junk science because it's been debunked. That's what happens when you commission a study you all ready know the answer to. Biased science. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:25 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Uh, no comment was made about intelligence, only responses in different > areas of the brain to di

Re: Chrysler exec calls out GOP on car industry

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
Because Obama forgave part of the debt. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I could only find this article from Forbes back in August that stated > 'fulfilled their debt obligations' Not sure how/why ' taxpayers lost $1.3 > billion on the Chrysler bailout' if they 'fulfille

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread GMoney
Uh, no comment was made about intelligence, only responses in different areas of the brain to different stimuli. Conservatives can still be really smart, but different parts of their brains seem to be activated differently in response to different stimuli, than liberals. For instance, a conserva

Re: Chrysler exec calls out GOP on car industry

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
I could only find this article from Forbes back in August that stated 'fulfilled their debt obligations' Not sure how/why ' taxpayers lost $1.3 billion on the Chrysler bailout' if they 'fulfilled their debt obligations', though *http://*onforb.es/VI1pGs On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Sam w

Re: Chrysler exec calls out GOP on car industry

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
You make me look it up? Hmmm, seems they still owe 1.3 billion but since they were sold we'll never see it. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> > I don't know, Sam, have they paid us back? > > One would think you would know the answer to that question > before making state

Re: Barack's policies improving employment

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
Officially ended June of 2009 making this the longest and non-existing recovery ever. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Just wow. > > Not even going to address your point, which is questionable, that the > recession *ENDED* when Obama took office. > > Are you saying that at t

Re: Chrysler exec calls out GOP on car industry

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Sam wrote: > > As I said, we gave them billions and they are spending it in China on > new plants providing new jobs. It's an Italian company building > factories in China and we gave them the money to do it. Did they pay > us back yet? > > I don't know, Sam, hav

Re: Chrysler exec calls out GOP on car industry

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Here's Chrysler's take on it: That's what I said. > this does not equal "we bailed out Chrysler and in turn they're going to > build Jeeps in China" As I said, we gave them billions and they are spending it in China on new plants provid

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
There are times I really wonder about your private life mo - gag balls, handcuffs? What's next? On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Maureen wrote: > > I'll throw in the handcuffs for free. > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >> it would only work if you could tie her hand

Re: Barack's policies improving employment

2012-11-02 Thread Vivec
Just wow. Not even going to address your point, which is questionable, that the recession *ENDED* when Obama took office. Are you saying that at the point a recession ends, the unemployment rate magically reduces back to pre-recession levels? Please point out the last recession where this happe

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I don't think so, rather look at the messages involved. Those who are more tolerant of ambiguity, etc may be attracted to progressive ideologies, while conservatives may tend to be attracted to the anxiety reduction messaging given by conservative ideology. This is a very gross over simplification

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Maureen
I'll throw in the handcuffs for free. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > it would only work if you could tie her hands as well - to keep them > from a keyboard. > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Maureen wrote: > > > > For them to have any kind of thinking would be an i

Re: Chrysler exec calls out GOP on car industry

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stewart
Here's Chrysler's take on it: http://blog.chryslergroupllc.com/blog.do;jsessionid=40655E96E3CBE366D16EFBBFE86B401D?id=1950&p=entry 1) Sergio Marchionne, *Chairman/CEO Chrysler Group LLC* October 30, 2012 11:55 AM "Chrysler Group's produc

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
I cannot help but wonder (and maybe I missed it in those links) - is someone a 'liberal' or 'conservative' because of the physiology, or is the physiology as it is because someone is a 'liberal' or 'conservative'? On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Here's the abstract.

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I think Sam need to be reminded of Daniel Patrick Moynihan's rule, "You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." Sam seems to think the opposite. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Just curious, Sam, how/why is what Larry said 'junk' s

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
Same asinine study from before. Look up the Actor Colin Firth in the archives. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Here's the abstract. The study itself is not behind a paywall btw: > http://www.cell.com/current-biology/retrieve/pii/S0960982211002892 > > This blog post

Re: Chrysler exec calls out GOP on car industry

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
Because I'm a bit smarter than you. I'll explain. Romney said we bailed out Chrysler and in turn they're going to build Jeeps in China. Very true. You're twisting it to read we're closing Jeep factories in the US and moving them to China. Nobody said that, although that likely will happen. Point

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Here's the abstract. The study itself is not behind a paywall btw: http://www.cell.com/current-biology/retrieve/pii/S0960982211002892 This blog post gives an OK explanation. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds Other research: http:/

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
In the archives, long discussion, lots of research, he gets proven wrong. Three months later he pretends nothing happened and starts his argument again. According to him your stupid too, you need to be a moonbat like him to be considered smart if you go by his studies. . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at

Re: Barack's policies improving employment

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
You can't seriously claim a rise in unemployment is good? The recession ended the first few months of Obama presidency yet millions more are unemployed. Just wow. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Vivec wrote: > > It seems that Obama's policies are slowly working and the unemployment > situati

Re: Chrysler exec calls out GOP on car industry

2012-11-02 Thread Vivec
Sam, You are doing exactly what others have done, and misrepresenting what was said. "The two forces came together earlier today when Trump tweeted the false statement that Chrysler is shipping Jeep production to China. This was based on a misinterpretation of a report from Bloomberg (the whole

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Scott Stroz
Just curious, Sam, how/why is what Larry said 'junk' science? Larry - got linkage to any studies? On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Sam wrote: > > You're an idiot. Again with this junk science about how much smarter > your opinion is? > > . > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Larry C. Lyons

Barack's policies improving employment

2012-11-02 Thread Vivec
It seems that Obama's policies are slowly working and the unemployment situation is getting a lot better. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/02/october-jobs-report-unemployment-rate_n_2063675.html?ir=Politics&ref=topbar Coming out of the worst recession in decades which hit just when he took

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
You're an idiot. Again with this junk science about how much smarter your opinion is? . On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Well the research in this area is fairly clear, the anterior cingulate > gyrus, which deals with tolerance for ambiguity and handles nuanced > logic

Re: Chrysler exec calls out GOP on car industry

2012-11-02 Thread Sam
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-21/fiat-says-china-may-build-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
it would only work if you could tie her hands as well - to keep them from a keyboard. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Maureen wrote: > > For them to have any kind of thinking would be an improvement. I'd pay a > year's salary for someone to superglue a ball-gag into Coulter's mouth. > > On Fri

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Well the research in this area is fairly clear, the anterior cingulate gyrus, which deals with tolerance for ambiguity and handles nuanced logic and reason tend to be much less active among conservatives than progressives. Mind you the amygdala tends to me much larger among self-identified conserv

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