Books

2005-05-13 Thread Chris Alvarado
Sorry for the crosspost, but I figured the more suggestions the better. -- Hello all, Couldn’t really think of a better place to ask this question. I have a friend who is a designer but is interested in beginning to learn CF.

flash remoting books

2004-04-12 Thread Chris Alvarado
Hello all, I sent an email to the list once before regarding this topic and received a couple good recommendation but I seem to have misplaced them =\ Thus, here comes the request again. . I need some book recommendations for flash remoting. I have a large project I am starting that is done in

--- lurker . . . but, have you seen this yet?

2004-04-05 Thread Chris Alvarado
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. I've seen it twice since it came out last weekend. This movie is quite plainly put, breathtaking. I can honestly say it is the best movie I've ever seen. If you haven't seen it yet, you really should. Sorry if this topic has already been discussed, I

spam question

2004-02-23 Thread Chris Alvarado
I keep getting spam with VERY small text at the bottom (unreadable). I copy and paste it into notepad to see what the words say and they appear to be just random words . . . anyone have any idea why a lot of spam emails seem to be including this at the bottom of their emails? just curious

RE: mySQL Administration tool

2004-02-16 Thread Chris Alvarado
mySQL Control Center is a nice one ive used. http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysqlcc.html -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. http://www.4guys.com http://www.4guys.com/ phone: 281.807.4344 x1716 fax: 281.807.4384 -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart

RE: 65 Cents

2004-02-09 Thread Chris Alvarado
chiming in penny stock day trading! *rimshot* aahthankyew -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. http://www.4guys.com http://www.4guys.com/ phone: 281.807.4344 x1716 fax: 281.807.4384 -Original Message- From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL

Need some Flash MX Book recommendations

2004-02-05 Thread Chris Alvarado
Hello all, I'm starting a project that will require some pretty heavy DB interation from Flash as well as some of the more advanced stuff in FlashMX (remoting, pushing content etc). I need books that assume you know little to no Flash. Ive been programming Cold Fusion for nearly 7 years now so

RE: More Pixies

2004-02-04 Thread Chris Alvarado
im thinking about heading out to Coachella this year. there are quite a few bands on the schedule id like to see. SXSW here in Texas is starting to shape up really nicely was well. im a music fiend so im always trying to stay in the know. a friend and I actually have a site we are working on (

OT: Forum Packages

2004-01-07 Thread Chris Alvarado
Sorry all for the crosspost and for posting something without any controversial content ;) I just havent received any responses from CF-Talk so I thought I would give it a while here. - Hello all, I just wanted to get some suggestions on nice forum packages built in

RE: Solar Flare

2003-10-29 Thread Chris Alvarado
actually an entire portion of North Houston was out for about an hour. Im not sure if it was related to the flare or what, but it was odd never-the-less. -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. http://www.4guys.com http://www.4guys.com/ phone: 281.807.4344 x1716

RE: 28 Days later...thriller/horror..

2003-09-24 Thread Chris Alvarado
I really liked 28 Days Later. Im sick of seeing the typical slow movingzombies that a crawling baby could escape. And yet, somehow noone everescapes them. The movie had a very chaotic nature at times and I reallyliked that. Also, the rawness of the film quality added a lot to themood imo. If you

RE: 28 Days later...thriller/horror..

2003-09-24 Thread Chris Alvarado
ever seen. Definitelysadistic. Does The Eye have sub titles?Ben-Original Message-From: Chris Alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:21 AMTo: CF-CommunitySubject: RE: 28 Days later...thriller/horror..I really liked 28 Days Later. Im sick of seeing

RE: 28 Days later...thriller/horror..

2003-09-24 Thread Chris Alvarado
like Dead Alive.Ben-Original Message-From: Chris Alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:18 PMTo: CF-CommunitySubject: RE: 28 Days later...thriller/horror..Ichi The Killer is out on the net ;)The Eye had subtitles.As for over the top horror, i just saw

RE: Boycott Verisign

2003-09-17 Thread Chris Alvarado
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_NextPart_000_1063816324_CFX_iMSMail_141181948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" we are in the process of moving our 300ish domains away from Verisign because of their absolute shady business as far as domain registrars go. but i

RE: Boycott Verisign

2003-09-17 Thread Chris Alvarado
http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf > == > If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! > > - Original Message - > From: Chris Alvarado > To: CF-Community > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:29 PM > Subject:

Antivirus software

2003-09-15 Thread Chris Alvarado
I am in the need of some new AV software. In the past I have always just gone the standard Norton route, mainly because they seemed to be the most up to date with their definitions. However, im open to some suggestions as this point. I dont mind paying for the software but one thing im not crazy

RE: neat pic

2003-09-15 Thread Chris Alvarado
I think it is just an interlaced image. All that is happening is the image is being selected by pressing ctrl + a and the interlaced image is based on shades of blue. -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. http://www.4guys.com phone: 281.807.4344 x1716 fax:

Coldfusion Issue: CFCExplorer

2003-09-05 Thread Chris Alvarado
Hello all, sorry to interupt the regularly scheduled programming with a CF question, but i notice responses are often more timeley here. I am working on a CFC on a new server that hosts a bunch of different sites. CF is installed to the default location c:\cfusionmx my wwwroot is

RE: feedbak on Able Commerce

2003-08-06 Thread Chris Alvarado
I did something similar here. We did cost comparisons for different packages and finally decide that developing our own would be most cost effective. So I built the codebase for http://www.coleandashcroft.com Then the same code was used for 2 other sites I did: http://www.texmexgourmet.com

RE: white reeses cups

2003-07-07 Thread Chris Alvarado
http://www.reeses.com/products/index.asp They have 5 new kinds of peanut butter cups. Dear god. I think im in love. -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. http://www.4guys.com phone: 281.807.4344 x1716 fax: 281.807.4384 We create websites that make you a hero.

RE: Blizzard no more :(

2003-07-02 Thread Chris Alvarado
Should try Neverwinter Nights then. Best of both worlds imo. And there is a new expansion out! -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. http://www.4guys.com phone: 281.807.4344 x1716 fax: 281.807.4384 We create websites that make you a hero. -Original

RE: Help Me Out with the Name of a Book

2003-06-20 Thread Chris Alvarado
Harry Potter? Lol, sorry had to do it. Everyone seems to have the release of the 5th book on the brain. Which I didn't even know about until today. I like the movies, don't get me wrong, I just don't really like reading aimed at children (or young adults). -chris.alvarado [ application developer

XML Question

2003-06-13 Thread Chris Alvarado
I sent this to the CF-Talk list but have not heard anything back so I thought I would post it here as well and see what I can see...=) I am submitting an HTTP Get command to grab some XML data. the following data is returned (very simple). ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1 ? !DOCTYPE hgi

RE: XML Question - SOLVED

2003-06-13 Thread Chris Alvarado
: 281.807.4344 x1716 fax: 281.807.4384 We create websites that make you a hero. -Original Message- From: Chris Alvarado Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:42 AM To: CF-Community Subject: XML Question I sent this to the CF-Talk list but have not heard anything back so I thought I would

OMG SPAM!!!!

2003-06-10 Thread Chris Alvarado
Ok, so, I was using Spamnet during the beta which was free. Anyone who is familiar with the product knows that it does an awesome job of stopping spam. However, in the beginning what they said was that the personal edition would remain free while the corporate edition would be a pay service.

CFMX + Windows Server 2003

2003-06-06 Thread Chris Alvarado
Hello all, asked this on the CF-Talk list, but did not really get much response so I thought Id send it here as well. We are moving to Windows 2003 + CFMX and I wanted to know if anyone has done this and run into any problems. Performance, Stability or Code wise. I know that there are

RE: CFMX vs ASP.NET

2003-05-30 Thread Chris Alvarado
Also remember, Since the .Net CLR is available from MS that in theory just about any language could in theory be turned into .Net language. In fact, if I remember correctly Fujitsu is currently working on a COBOL port. -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc.

RE: Looking for wireless recommendations

2003-05-29 Thread Chris Alvarado
Are you speaking of the g4 networks? Such as ATT etc... We just got a few of their pocket PCs here with windows CE and I know servers have been rebooted and decent sessions held for remote admin a few times. These devices have some kind of mini version of Terminal Server I think. I don't think

RE: Looking for wireless recommendations

2003-05-29 Thread Chris Alvarado
a hero. -Original Message- From: Chris Alvarado Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:06 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Looking for wireless recommendations Are you speaking of the g4 networks? Such as ATT etc... We just got a few of their pocket PCs here with windows CE and I

RE: Looking for wireless recommendations

2003-05-29 Thread Chris Alvarado
Im the same way. I am the biggest procrastinator, but for some reason I cant wait 3 days to get something delivered after ordering it online. In fact, I just bought a new digital camera (Nikon Coolpix 5700), and my shipping ended up being like $60 alone because I just HAD to have it next day =\

RE: Alienware's new case

2003-04-01 Thread Chris Alvarado
Is a Hummer worth it? Only the buyer can answer that question =) If there is one thing Ebay should show us, it's that if there is someone to sell it, there is someone to buy it. -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. http://www.4guys.com phone: 281.807.4344 x1716

RE: spamkiller

2003-03-31 Thread Chris Alvarado
Look at my sig. It is AWESOME. And, it's FREE. I've stopped 9,176 spam messages. You can too! Get your free, safe spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ -Original Message- From: SMR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:25 AM To: CF-Community

RE: spamkiller

2003-03-31 Thread Chris Alvarado
- From: SMR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:47 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: spamkiller okay, I've got this installed... as spam comes in you highlight it and click block? Is it not automated? - Original Message - From: Chris Alvarado [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF

RE: Any one going to MX Vegas?

2003-03-31 Thread Chris Alvarado
Not just ASP (suggesting maybe older codebase or something of that nature). But .Net =( Meaning (unless this was done during .Net beta) it COULD HAVE been done with MX..=P -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. http://www.4guys.com phone: 281.807.4344 x1716 fax:

RE: critical thinking, was Open Question: Is the fighting in Iraq moral?

2003-03-24 Thread Chris Alvarado
I will agree with this. I remember when I was in High School I had an optional credit course actually called critical thinking. It turned out to be one of my favorite classes taught by a nutty coach who ended up being my favorite teacher. The most valuable thing I learned there, is that you

RE: critical thinking

2003-03-24 Thread Chris Alvarado
in the country? -Original Message- From: Chris Alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:21 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: critical thinking, was Open Question: Is the fighting in Iraq moral? I will agree with this. I remember when I was in High School I had

RE: critical thinking

2003-03-24 Thread Chris Alvarado
away from Seattle, SF and NY because I don't have the income to support a habit like that, but I really love New Mexico, and Portland was a pretty cool place too. Dana Chris Alvarado writes: No I honestly don't. Im just bored of Texas I guess. And NY or SF, or even Seattle have always been

RE: Do you know everyone in the cf-community? :-)

2003-03-18 Thread Chris Alvarado
LTJ Bukem w/ MC Conrad Live in Japan Question: Who is hiding behind that curtain in the corner? -Original Message- From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:53 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Do you know everyone in the cf-community? :-)

RE: Do you know everyone in the cf-community? :-)

2003-03-18 Thread Chris Alvarado
Ringu (Japanese version of The Ring) Question: what is your favorite foreign film? Im going to answer this one as well I have 3 City of Lost Children, Delicatessen, Battle Royale I've stopped 9,034 spam messages. You can too! Get your free, safe spam protection at

RE: Do you know everyone in the cf-community? :-)

2003-03-18 Thread Chris Alvarado
In the immortal words of Socrates . . . I drank what? - Real Genius Question: paper or plastic? I've stopped 9,034 spam messages. You can too! Get your free, safe spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ -Original Message- From: Mike Townend [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Do you know everyone in the cf-community? :-)

2003-03-18 Thread Chris Alvarado
Soulseek is THE BEST, hands down. http://www.slsk.org Can be slow since you have to wait for people to be available to dl but it is free, NO spy ware and its developed by some folks that are just really avid about the free reign of MP3 and file sharing community Question: Soup or Salad? I've

RE: Good Vietnam Music

2003-03-13 Thread Chris Alvarado
Apoclypse Now http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B5M98K/qid=1047568810/ sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-0998592-0521739?v=glances=music Platoon http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B02IKT/qid=1047568882/ sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-0998592-0521739?v=glances=music Full Metal Jacket

RE: Good Vietnam Music

2003-03-13 Thread Chris Alvarado
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Good Vietnam Music Yup i'm a military buff too came a fleas hair away from being a squid myself :) - Original Message - From: Chris Alvarado [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

RE: Good Vietnam Music

2003-03-13 Thread Chris Alvarado
Message - From: Chris Alvarado [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:26 AM Subject: RE: Good Vietnam Music Apoclypse Now http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B5M98K/qid=1047568810/ sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-0998592-0521739?v=glances=music

RE: How to be a cam whore

2003-03-12 Thread Chris Alvarado
This guy's site is awesome! I have everyone in the office rolling on the floor looking at it. Definitely a link worthy of my bookmarking..=) Thanks, -chris -Original Message- From: Critz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:15 PM To: CF-Community Subject: How

QA / Testing - Use Case Scenarios?

2003-03-11 Thread Chris Alvarado
Hello all, Sent this to cf-talk with no response so I thought I would check this list as well...=) Hoping to get some opinions etc here. I am trying to rationalize to the powers that be that some form of Use Case Scenarios would greatly improves quality of work. Does anyone out there have any

RE: Is VB Script really IE Only?

2003-02-27 Thread Chris Alvarado
Aye, Client Side VBScript is IE only, as it uses the Windows Scripting Host engine as its interpreter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:58 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is VB Script really IE Only? Client side

New Puppy ...=)

2003-02-26 Thread Chris Alvarado
Well, Sorry if this is a repost but nothing was getting through for me yesterday. . . . I know im a lurker but ive been on the list and chimed in every once in a while. Couldn't resist showing off my girl..=P The link is to pictures of my new puppy. Her name is Gaia (as in Goddess of the

RE: New Puppy ...=)

2003-02-26 Thread Chris Alvarado
labrador? w -Original Message- From: Chris Alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 February 2003 15:30 To: CF-Community Subject: New Puppy ...=) Well, Sorry if this is a repost but nothing was getting through for me yesterday. . . . I know im a lurker but ive been on the list

RE: razorfish cf

2003-02-24 Thread Chris Alvarado
I don't think it is them anymore. I thought I remembered reading something a while back that they were bought out by some other company in Utah or something. Haven't really heard much about them in a long time. Seems I used to always hear some buzz about something new and cool they were doing.

RE: Quick question on CFHEADER?CFCONTENT

2003-01-31 Thread Chris Alvarado
Aye, In the cfheader tag you are just basically specifying the 'default' name of the file that will display in the file save as dialog. Do not put the path in the header tag. However, the cfcontent need a fully qualified physical path to the file in order to serve the file. Hope this helps,

Liberal vs. Conservative vs. Texan debate

2003-01-31 Thread Chris Alvarado
To anyone who hasn't seen this, I got a kick out of it . . . . . - Question: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner and

RE: Liberal vs. Conservative vs. Texan debate

2003-01-31 Thread Chris Alvarado
Well I mainly get a kick out of this because I am from Texas, live in Houston to be exact. And this beautifully illustrates the cowboy stereotype for Texans. But lemme tell you this. 1) I do NOT ride a horse to work 2) I do NOT wear a cowboy hat or boots 3) I HATE Country music 4) and most

RE: Liberal vs. Conservative vs. Texan debate

2003-01-31 Thread Chris Alvarado
Yeah im actually from Dallas originally. I notice the same things still. Dallas is extremely snobbish but with an extremely high occurrence of guiltless rich kids! Always a fun bunch let me tell ya. What is worse is the same kids that go out all night to party and do lord knows what to build a

RE: SUV break?

2003-01-22 Thread Chris Alvarado
Good point; intended use Is SO subjective. Think about this . . . A water pipe (aka Bong) is /INTENTED/ for use with tobacco, which is why it is legal to sell in a legit storefront. . . But come on, we all know what it is for. In High School I had friends that worked at shops that sell

RE: SUV break?

2003-01-22 Thread Chris Alvarado
Maybe this is a silly point to make but here it goes anyway...=D The Environment, and why the general attitude toward preservation pisses me off: For the most part (as I see it), people have a general disregard for the FUTURE of our planet and the quality of life we are in essence determining

RE: whaaaaaa

2003-01-16 Thread Chris Alvarado
Think about this also, With the .Net CLR being freely available from MS, other OS'es will be incorporating the .Net Framework which will enable even more market share for MS. In fact, FreeBSD is currently working on an implementation of .Net for its OS if I remember correctly. I am sure it is

RE: Xbox crushes Gamecube (RE: Xbox or Gamecube)

2003-01-02 Thread Chris Alvarado
This is correct. You can rip CDs and they are stored as MP3s on the Xbox's 10GB Hard Drive. Some Games allow what is called custom soundtracks which will allow you to play back your save MP3s as the in game music. Sega GT 2002 is an example of a game that supports custom soundtracks.

RE: Xbox crushes Gamecube (RE: Xbox or Gamecube)

2003-01-02 Thread Chris Alvarado
The HD is 10GB and saved games take up very little space. -chris -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:57 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Xbox crushes Gamecube (RE: Xbox or Gamecube) Sounds pretty good. I already own a

RE: Xbox or Gamecube

2002-12-31 Thread Chris Alvarado
Actually what you get for the fee is content updates. New Levels to download and in the future plans for new gear etc in games. I would also imagine that at some point that will want to update drivers or there will be software / OS updates for the console and those will be delivered over the

RE: Xbox or Gamecube

2002-12-31 Thread Chris Alvarado
it is the biggest piece of *something* he has ever seen... M -Original Message- From: Chris Alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:38 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Xbox or Gamecube Actually what you get for the fee is content updates. New Levels

RE: Bitten by the Console Bug..

2002-12-30 Thread Chris Alvarado
I've had my xBox since last year at Christmas when the first ones came out. I hadn't really played it much though until the last few months and I've been sucked in as well. Recently I've gotten Blood Rayne (wicked action game) Splinter Cell (need I say more) Steel Battalion (yes I actually

RE: Don't click the link (was: LOL)

2002-12-09 Thread Chris Alvarado
Good lord, Is it really that big of a deal? This /IS/ a list for any random sort of talk, be it dumb links or not right? I for one, thought it was funny. Nothing Ctrl + Alt + Del End Task cant fix. Everyone needs another cup of coffee...=) -chris -Original Message- From: Brian

RE: Don't click the link (was: LOL)

2002-12-09 Thread Chris Alvarado
NSFW or NWF used before for links like this one NSFW = Not Safe For Workplace NWF = Not Workplace Friendly. I would ask that we remember these acronyms when sending links that might cause eyebrows to raise. Hatton Chris Alvarado wrote: Good lord, Is it really that big of a deal

RE: Don't click the link (was: LOL)

2002-12-09 Thread Chris Alvarado
I can agree with all of this, The only problem I with the string of responses is the rather high occurrence of the emails that basically insulted the guy. Alert him of his folly, tell him the proper procedure etc, but no need for name calling or the equivalent of net-yelling. With that said,

RE: Reason 49er why athletes should stay on the field and away from the microphone...

2002-11-27 Thread Chris Alvarado
Unbelievable, have I offended some of you? I've gotten now 16 emails telling me to F*** off. Would you please elaborate on why should I f*** off? Because it's easier to hate than it is to love? Seriously think about how reserved people are to say I love this or love that, that somehow shows

RE: Old game consoles (was: RE: Steel Battalions Review (RE: XBox games Was: omg - the lawsui ts just got worse)

2002-11-26 Thread Chris Alvarado
Intellivision? . . . . I sure miss my Comodore64 sometimes =\ -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:18 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Old game consoles (was: RE: Steel Battalions Review (RE: XBox games Was: omg - the lawsui

RE: Star Wars Galaxy (WAS: SWII: AOTC on DVD today)

2002-11-13 Thread Chris Alvarado
Allo everyone, I am an extreme lurker on this list but this topic has lured me out!...=) I play Everquest avidly so I have been following SoE (Verant) a bit and keeping up with SWG for quite some time. The way Jedi's will be handled in game, is that the path to become a Jedi will be so

RE: Domain registration....

2002-11-12 Thread Chris Alvarado
http://www.godaddy.com is like 9.99 per year and has a very nice web interface for changing DNS etc. -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. http://www.4guys.com We create websites that make you a hero. -Original Message- From: cfhelp

RE: HR and IT

2001-02-15 Thread Chris Alvarado
we have been using the .Net framework since June of 2000 -chris.alvarado [developer] - VerticalNet -Original Message- From: Matthew Speed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 4:35 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: HR and IT The truly scary thing is I saw a

RE: HR and IT

2001-02-14 Thread Chris Alvarado
..Net *teeeh* -chris.alvarado [developer] - VerticalNet -Original Message- From: Marc Garrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:14 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: HR and IT I get the sense that a lot of large companies don't have actual IT people

RE: HR and IT

2001-02-14 Thread Chris Alvarado
on the 'unbuffered output' tip that is a feature coming in CF 5. -chris.alvarado [developer] - VerticalNet -Original Message- From: Daniel Dewey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:26 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: HR and IT CF_RANT_N_RAVE Gary --