Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Ihrig
yeh she is a graphic designer she has just a couple small things at http://www.adlunam.com/mleatherman i/we need to turn adlunam into a real site ffor her stuff she has been doing it since 91 or so. ~| Discover CFTicket - The

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Tony
that sucks man, but you know, it may be VERY saddening and depressing not to get the pup right now, tomorrow you will wake up, it'll be ok, and in a couple months, if things get straight, there are a million puppies born each day, im sure. tw On 9/23/05, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we

RE: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Michael Tangorre
> From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > just trying not to get to agressive. > my hon, does great design & good work all around. > i dont get corporate enviroments some times. Paul, Is she a gfx designer? Have a portfolio on line or anything? ~~~

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Ihrig
well we decided to pass onn the pup at the moment. looks likes my wifes boss is trying to push her out of a job. she wants either a letter of resignation by monday or a signed statement that she will abide by her employer wishes. looks like legal bs o cover there asses. so, no dog at the present

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Tony
you're a dick ray ;) jk. hah On 9/23/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > then you should not have a puppy. > > Paul Ihrig wrote: > > i have a 45 minute commute so lunch time visits are not do able > > > > > > ~| Fin

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Tony
lunchtime visits are a must homey. REALLY. especially for a pup, to do it right. you could get it, and it would be cool this weekend, but come next wednesday, its going to suck hard. tw On 9/23/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > noI wouldn't recommend that, either. :) been t

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Ray Champagne
noI wouldn't recommend that, either. :) been there before. do you have a neighbor or is there a neighborhood doggie day care/walking service that you can utilize to get him out of the house for some of the day? there are lots of those around here for people that are in your exact same p

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Ihrig
yeh. i also read there is no way you should let a 3 month old pup run around out of a kenal, while at work or they will tear every thing up. may have to discuss this with my honey befor we head over to there farm tonight. ~| Find

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Ray Champagne
sorry...that sounded like I was trying to be a d*ckhead, I was not trying to be. Just a REALLY long time to leave a dog in a cage. I think this is VERY unfair to the dog, no matter how much love it gets when you get home. Ray Champagne wrote: > then you should not have a puppy. > > Paul Ihrig

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Ray Champagne
then you should not have a puppy. Paul Ihrig wrote: > i have a 45 minute commute so lunch time visits are not do able > > ~| Now there’s a better way to fax. eFax makes it possible to use your existing email account to send

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Ihrig
i have a 45 minute commute so lunch time visits are not do able ~| Purchase Studio MX from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=50

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Tony
we pulled it off with that schedule, just made trips home at lunch, and maintained a very fair potty schedule at night. thats it. they REALLY appreciate routine, whatever routine it may be it must be a consistent routine. tw On 9/23/05, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > cool. > thanks for

RE: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Tangorre, Michael
> From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > just hope we arnt doing any thing bad, since we both work > 9-10 hours a day Are your hours staggered or are you both gone the same 9-10 hours? ~| Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expre

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Ihrig
cool. thanks for the advice. cant wait. just hope we arnt doing any thing bad, since we both work 9-10 hours a day ~| Protect Your PC from viruses, hackers, spam and more. Buy PC-cillin with Easy Installation & Support http://w

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Tony
we just put a box in the back of the crate, something he couldnt climb over, and then we were good. tw On 9/23/05, Tangorre, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I have never bothered with any pans or anything like that. If > > the dog goes in the

RE: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Tangorre, Michael
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I have never bothered with any pans or anything like that. If > the dog goes in the crate, just clean it up. If you are > consistent with the training, the dog will learn very quickly > not to go in the crate. Crate size is critical! I would > re

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Tony
paul, there is a great thread on cf-comm with all kindsa techniques and suggestions from good doggers on this list... check that out.. tw On 9/23/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great dog! > > The crate should be big enough for the dog, but not too big. A puppy needs a > smaller c

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Robert Munn
Great dog! The crate should be big enough for the dog, but not too big. A puppy needs a smaller crate than a full grown dog. If the crate is too big, the crate training may not work. I have never bothered with any pans or anything like that. If the dog goes in the crate, just clean it up. If y

Re: dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Deanna Schneider
You could probably fashion a bottom piece out of cardboard, covered in plastic, covered in fabric. Or, a chunk of vinyl flooring would work. As for a divider, a lot of people just put a box or an upside down laundry basket in there - anything to keep them in only part of the space. On 9/23/05, Pa

dog question

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Ihrig
hey guys! we may be picking up a 3 month old wiem tonight. a buddy gave us a large cage to crate train him in. it dosnt have the removable pan, was curious if any one know what i could use as a substitute. also it does not have a devider, i want to rig up some thing. also any good sites on how t

Re: Dog question

2004-07-22 Thread Bill Wheatley
m Wheatley Coldfusion Guru     Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.   - Original Message -   From: Ben Densmore   To: CF-Community   Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:18 PM   Subject: Re: Dog question   Here, even if you have &quo

Re: Dog question

2004-07-22 Thread Ben Densmore
Here, even if you have "Beware of Dog" signs and your dog bit a person you are still held responsible. Ben On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:12:51 -0400, Angel Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Really? How silly. > > If someone trespasses on my property I expect to be able to defend said > property. > I

RE: Dog question

2004-07-22 Thread Angel Stewart
Really? How silly. If someone trespasses on my property I expect to be able to defend said property. If the dog is trained to attack intruders, then the kid is an intruder. While the incident would be unfortunate, I don't think my dog would be to blame. What's the premise of that law? that a

Re: Dog question

2004-07-22 Thread Beth F
004 22:02:26 -0400 Subject: Dog question To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Today I was in my driveway and I had my dog on his runner next to me. One of the neighborhood dogs, who is MUCH smaller than my dog came into my yard and kind of snuck up on my dog I think he scared my dog and my

Re: Dog question

2004-07-22 Thread dana tierney
at he was getting irate when you tried by yourself. Dana - Original Message - From: Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:24:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Dog question To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am not a lawyer, but...   Do you have any proof that your d

RE: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread Ian Skinner
I can't speak to the law, other then to say I sure hope to high heaven that it's on your side.  They could file a lawsuit against you, but that is a long way from winning such a lawsuit. If you do want to express your sorrow monetarily, I would suggest you offer a flat dollar amount that you fee

Re: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread Cary Gordon
You can sue them - for your trauma/ At 07:02 PM 7/20/2004, you wrote: >Today I was in my driveway and I had my dog on his runner next to me. > >One of the neighborhood dogs, who is MUCH smaller than my dog came >into my yard and kind of snuck up on my dog I think he scared my dog >and my dog grabb

Re: Dog question(Update)

2004-07-21 Thread Ben Densmore
> > At 02:04 PM 7/21/2004, you wrote: > >Subject: Dog question(Update) > >From: Ben Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:11:29 -0500 > >Thread: > >http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=13432&for

Re: Dog question(Update)

2004-07-21 Thread Jeffry Houser
How did the Director of Animal control know where to reach you?  ( Since you didn't bring in the hurt dog, and only had false information from the other owners ) At 02:04 PM 7/21/2004, you wrote: >Subject: Dog question(Update) >From: Ben Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date:

Re: Dog question(Update)

2004-07-21 Thread Ben Densmore
I all ready told the director of Animal control I would get the owners name, I don't really know him but my kids know his son so hopefully I can get his name from them. I gave them his address all ready. Their dog was really friendly, he would always come up to me because they let him run loose al

Re: Dog question(Update)

2004-07-21 Thread G
hurt. Few things get me as riled up as animal neglect/cruelty.   - Original Message -   From: Ben Densmore   To: CF-Community   Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 11:11 AM   Subject: Re: Dog question(Update)   I got a call from the Director of Animal control from the next town   over from m

RE: Dog question(Update)

2004-07-21 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
>>| From: Larry C. Lyons >>| >>| If they abandon the animal then they deserve all the >>| screwing over they get. I wholeheartedly agree with that. I can't believe they did that. It just goes to show you that their attempt to scare you by threatening a lawsuit was for their own monetary gains -

RE: Dog question(Update)

2004-07-21 Thread Angel Stewart
Send the cops after them!! Animal Abandonment and cruelty! the bastards. *humph* Tough for your dog though ;-\ Can you go play with him in doggy quarantine? -Gel    _   From: Ben Densmore I got a call from the Director of Animal control from the next town over from me. It seems

Re: Dog question(Update)

2004-07-21 Thread Doug White
Well, it is good that you do not have to fear a lawsuit.  It is bad that the original owner was negligent in allowing the dog to run loose, but even more negligent to abandon the dog once it got into trouble and was injured. Pomeranians are a very loyal and one-person type of pet, and If it is adop

Re: Dog question(Update)

2004-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
; -Original Message- > > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:27 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Dog question > > > > No way. Every dog that has ever attacked another dog, has been around plenty > > of

Re: Dog question(Update)

2004-07-21 Thread Jacob
settles over the crowd, everyone can hug and be friends. an > > alternate substance of choice could be some nice toasty florida buds smoked > > and enjoyed by the masses. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, Jul

Re: Dog question(Update)

2004-07-21 Thread Ben Densmore
uld be some nice toasty florida buds smoked > and enjoyed by the masses. > > -Original Message- > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:27 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Dog question > > No way. Every dog that has ever attac

RE: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread John Stanley
enjoyed by the masses. -Original Message- From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:27 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Dog question No way. Every dog that has ever attacked another dog, has been around plenty of other dogs it has NOT attacked. This will carry no

Re: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread G
ack. I've seen it happen before. You're gambling with your pet, better be confident before you proceed down this road.   >   > Brian   >  - Original Message -   >  From: Jacob   >  To: CF-Community   >  Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:02 AM   >  Subject: R

Re: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread Ben Densmore
seen it happen before. You're gambling with your pet, better be confident before you proceed down this road. > > Brian >  - Original Message - >  From: Jacob >  To: CF-Community >  Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:02 AM >  Subject: Re: Dog question > >  Exactly..

Re: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread G
f the attack. I've seen it happen before. You're gambling with your pet, better be confident before you proceed down this road. Brian   - Original Message -   From: Jacob   To: CF-Community   Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:02 AM   Subject: Re: Dog question   Exactly.. in C

RE: Dog Question

2004-07-21 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
In the case I'm using as an example - the dog that attacked - his owner won. Of course the attacking dog got kicked by the guy defending his dogs - and I think the case centered around "willful destruction of property" - property being in this case - the attacking dog. >>| -Original Message--

Re: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread Candace Cottrell
Ahh, ok. I was picturing a treadmill. Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org "There is no right price for the wrong product, even if it is inexpensive and delivered on time." >>> [EM

RE: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread John Stanley
Or assless black vinyl pants, gag ball and n!pple clamps.;-) -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:08 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Dog question Unless it is a Doberman, then its a black leather jumpsuit. Jerry

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2004-07-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
Unless it is a Doberman, then its a black leather jumpsuit. Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/04 10:00AM >>> It's a midget in a pink jumpsuit who holds the leash. Gee I thought everyone knew that. -Gel    _   From: Candace Cottrell I'm sorry this went down... Now I have one que

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2004-07-21 Thread Jacob
more >   To: CF-Community >   Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:02 PM >   Subject: Dog question > >   Today I was in my driveway and I had my dog on his runner next to me. > >   One of the neighborhood dogs, who is MUCH smaller than my dog came >   into my yard and kind of snuc

RE: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread Angel Stewart
It's a midget in a pink jumpsuit who holds the leash. Gee I thought everyone knew that. -Gel    _   From: Candace Cottrell I'm sorry this went down... Now I have one question. What is a dog runner? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www

Re: Dog Question

2004-07-21 Thread Jeffry Houser
You might be right.  My worry was one of "proof"   It may come down to "your word against mine" if the other party tells a modified version of events (see other email). At 10:04 AM 7/21/2004, you wrote: >Subject: Dog Question >From: "G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
Picture a clothes line with a leash attached. The dog can run from end to end on the line, and venture outwards to the end of the leash. Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/04 09:50AM >>> I'm sorry this went down... Now I have one question. What is a dog runner? [Todays Threads] [This Me

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2004-07-21 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
I saw a case on a greyhound list I am on where a guy was walking his dogs on the street. LEASHED dogs, a couple of greyhounds, non-aggressive, when an unleashed dog came flying out of a yard and went for his greys. On the STREET. The guy attempted to protect his dogs and kicked the other dog in his

Re: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread Candace Cottrell
I'm sorry this went down... Now I have one question. What is a dog runner? Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org "There is no right price for the wrong product, even if it is inexpen

Re: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread Ben Densmore
Both my mother and father-in-law were standing there as well as my 3 kids and a couple of their friends. So witnesses are not an issue. I thought about calling the police last night but then I figured if they didn't call them and file a report then it might not be worth doing. Ben On Wed, 21 Jul

Re: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread Raymond Camden
Others have already chimed in with their opinions, but I just wanted to make sure you knew to let us know what happens as this story progresses. -r On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:02:26 -0400, Ben Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Today I was in my driveway and I had my dog on his runner next to me. >

RE: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread Tyler Clendenin
capitulation. Tyler Clendenin GSL Solutions   _   From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 8:25 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Dog question I am not a lawyer, but...   Do you have any proof that your dog was on a leash?  Do you have any proof that

Re: Dog Question

2004-07-21 Thread G
Message -   From: Jeffry Houser   To: CF-Community   Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:29 AM   Subject: Re: Dog Question   I think I'm taking a very pessimistic approach to this but...     In court, I'd worry that sending a gesture of kindness may be seen as a   guilty conscience.  

RE: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread Tangorre, Michael
> Tiff (who's very involved in animal rescue and other animal related > schtuff) says that often happens when larger dogs do that to > smaller animals -- dogs, cats, squirrels... apparently as a > result of the shaking typically... she also says she's never > heard of a vet putting the eye back

Re: Dog Question

2004-07-21 Thread Jeffry Houser
I think I'm taking a very pessimistic approach to this but...   In court, I'd worry that sending a gesture of kindness may be seen as a guilty conscience.  If the vet bill goes very high and you aren't paying... it likely that you'll end up on court. At 04:04 AM 7/21/2004, you wrote: >It is a

Re: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread Jeffry Houser
I am not a lawyer, but...   Do you have any proof that your dog was on a leash?  Do you have any proof that there's wasn't?  Were there any witnesses?   I'm asking because I watch Judge Judy every day (No I don't).  But, without witnesses, your story may be hard to prove, especially if you end

RE: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread John Stanley
personal responsibility people show in todays society. -Original Message- From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:33 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Dog question He didn't actually lose it but it was popped out of the socket. I'm not sure if my

Re: Dog question

2004-07-21 Thread Deanna Schneider
My neighbors had a weimeraner when I was a kid. She was the sweetest thing ever. But, they always told me that they can be really dangerous and that once they get a taste for blood there's no going back. I don't know if that was just neighborhood teasing or not. But, I'd certainly keep on eye on yo

Re: Dog question

2004-07-20 Thread Doug White
This reminds me of one time one of my Chihuahuas slipped past me and a neighbor was walking his very huge 125 pound German Shepard in front of the house.  My Chihuahua went on the attack and grabbed the larger dog's collar and was for awhile hanging on the collar, all feet off the ground.   The Big

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2004-07-20 Thread charlie griefer
July 20, 2004 9:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Dog question I argued the point with him and he tried to say it doesn't matter. I just kept saying that there is a leash law and my dog was leashed and his wasn't. It wasn't getting anywhere so I just walked away before anyone&#

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2004-07-20 Thread Jim Davis
ing up and a Golden Retriever we were sitting (guess which one did the shaking!)  It wasn't as bad (neither dog needed vet care), but it's scary as all hell to watch. Jim Davis From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Do

Re: Dog question

2004-07-20 Thread Ben Densmore
I argued the point with him and he tried to say it doesn't matter. I just kept saying that there is a leash law and my dog was leashed and his wasn't. It wasn't getting anywhere so I just walked away before anyone's tempers went out of control. On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:24:17 -0700, charlie griefer <

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2004-07-20 Thread Ben Densmore
My dog is a weimeraner and the other dog is a pomeranian. My in-laws have a puppy beagle and my dog plays with him all the time as well as other dogs. My dog is usually rough but he has never done what he did today, that's why I think he got freaked out by this dog sneaking up on him. Ben On Wed,

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2004-07-20 Thread charlie griefer
mages, given points 1 and 2 above. - Original Message - From: Ben Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:02:26 -0400 Subject: Dog question To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Today I was in my driveway and I had my dog on his runner next to me. One of the n

Re: Dog question

2004-07-20 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
;> > won't >> > be able to >> > afford it. >> >> > Ben >> >> > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:08:05 -0400, Howie Hamlin >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Unleashed.  On your property. >> >> >> >>

Re: Dog question

2004-07-20 Thread Tony Weeg
what kinda dogs? this is wild... ive got a 85lb pit, rocky, and he is sooo expected to do shit like this, but we have 3 cats, and he is their bitch.  so, im just wondering...thanks. tony -- tony Tony Weeg human. email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog

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2004-07-20 Thread Cameron Childress
totally on your side on this, but I'd take more caution now that this has occured. -Cameron - Original Message - From: Ben Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:02:26 -0400 Subject: Dog question To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Today I was in my

Re: Dog question

2004-07-20 Thread Ben Densmore
, 20 Jul 2004 22:08:05 -0400, Howie Hamlin > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Unleashed.  On your property. > >> > >> Sad but totally not your fault. > >> > >> > >>   - Original Message - > >>   From: Ben Densmore >

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2004-07-20 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
>> >> >>   - Original Message - >>   From: Ben Densmore >>   To: CF-Community >>   Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:02 PM >>   Subject: Dog question >> >>   Today I was in my driveway and I had my dog on his >>   runner next to me. >

Re: Dog question

2004-07-20 Thread Ben Densmore
> Unleashed.  On your property. > > Sad but totally not your fault. > > >   - Original Message - >   From: Ben Densmore >   To: CF-Community >   Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:02 PM >   Subject: Dog question > >   Today I was in my driveway and I ha

Re: Dog question

2004-07-20 Thread Howie Hamlin
Unleashed.  On your property.   Sad but totally not your fault.   - Original Message -   From: Ben Densmore   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:02 PM   Subject: Dog question   Today I was in my driveway and I had my dog on his runner next to me.   One of the

Dog question

2004-07-20 Thread Ben Densmore
Today I was in my driveway and I had my dog on his runner next to me. One of the neighborhood dogs, who is MUCH smaller than my dog came into my yard and kind of snuck up on my dog I think he scared my dog and my dog grabbed him and shook him like a rag doll in his mouth. The other dogs eye poppe