You could probably fashion a bottom piece out of cardboard, covered in
plastic, covered in fabric. Or, a chunk of vinyl flooring would work.
As for a divider, a lot of people just put a box or an upside down laundry
basket in there - anything to keep them in only part of the space.
On 9/23/05,
Great dog!
The crate should be big enough for the dog, but not too big. A puppy needs a
smaller crate than a full grown dog. If the crate is too big, the crate
training may not work.
I have never bothered with any pans or anything like that. If the dog goes in
the crate, just clean it up. If
paul,
there is a great thread on cf-comm with all kindsa techniques
and suggestions from good doggers on this list...
check that out..
tw
On 9/23/05, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Great dog!
The crate should be big enough for the dog, but not too big. A puppy needs a
smaller crate
From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have never bothered with any pans or anything like that. If
the dog goes in the crate, just clean it up. If you are
consistent with the training, the dog will learn very quickly
not to go in the crate. Crate size is critical! I would
we just put a box in the back of the crate, something he couldnt
climb over, and then we were good.
tw
On 9/23/05, Tangorre, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have never bothered with any pans or anything like that. If
the dog goes in the crate,
cool.
thanks for the advice.
cant wait.
just hope we arnt doing any thing bad, since we both work 9-10 hours a day
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From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
just hope we arnt doing any thing bad, since we both work
9-10 hours a day
Are your hours staggered or are you both gone the same 9-10 hours?
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we pulled it off with that schedule, just made trips home
at lunch, and maintained a very fair potty schedule at night.
thats it.
they REALLY appreciate routine, whatever routine it may be
it must be a consistent routine.
tw
On 9/23/05, Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cool.
thanks for the
i have a 45 minute commute so lunch time visits are not do able
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then you should not have a puppy.
Paul Ihrig wrote:
i have a 45 minute commute so lunch time visits are not do able
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sorry...that sounded like I was trying to be a d*ckhead, I was not
trying to be.
Just a REALLY long time to leave a dog in a cage. I think this is VERY
unfair to the dog, no matter how much love it gets when you get home.
Ray Champagne wrote:
then you should not have a puppy.
Paul Ihrig
yeh.
i also read there is no way you should let a 3 month old pup run
around out of a kenal, while at work or they will tear every thing up.
may have to discuss this with my honey befor we head over to there farm tonight.
~|
noI wouldn't recommend that, either. :) been there before.
do you have a neighbor or is there a neighborhood doggie day
care/walking service that you can utilize to get him out of the house
for some of the day? there are lots of those around here for people
that are in your exact same
lunchtime visits are a must homey.
REALLY.
especially for a pup, to do it right.
you could get it, and it would be cool this weekend, but come next
wednesday, its
going to suck hard.
tw
On 9/23/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
noI wouldn't recommend that, either. :) been
you're a dick ray ;)
jk.
hah
On 9/23/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
then you should not have a puppy.
Paul Ihrig wrote:
i have a 45 minute commute so lunch time visits are not do able
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Find out how
well we decided to pass onn the pup at the moment.
looks likes my wifes boss is trying to push her out of a job.
she wants either a letter of resignation by monday or a signed
statement that she will abide by her employer wishes.
looks like legal bs o cover there asses.
so, no dog at the present
From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
just trying not to get to agressive.
my hon, does great design good work all around.
i dont get corporate enviroments some times.
Paul,
Is she a gfx designer? Have a portfolio on line or anything?
that sucks man, but you know, it may be VERY saddening and depressing
not to get the pup right now, tomorrow you will wake up, it'll be ok, and
in a couple months, if things get straight, there are a million
puppies born each
day, im sure.
tw
On 9/23/05, Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well
yeh she is a graphic designer she has just a couple small things at
http://www.adlunam.com/mleatherman
i/we need to turn adlunam into a real site ffor her stuff
she has been doing it since 91 or so.
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- Original Message -
From: Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:24:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Dog question
To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am not a lawyer, but...
Do you have any proof that your dog was on a leash?Do
I am pretty late on this one,Ben, but have spent years volunteering
at Animal Control and discussing these sorts of cases.Since your dog
bit an offleash dog on your property, its not likely he will face any
consequences for his actions.Its also pretty common for little dog
bugeyes to prolapse like
Really? How silly.
If someone trespasses on my property I expect to be able to defend said
property.
If the dog is trained to attack intruders, then the kid is an intruder.
While the incident would be unfortunate, I don't think my dog would be
to blame.
What's the premise of that law? that
Here, even if you have Beware of Dog signs and your dog bit a person
you are still held responsible.
Ben
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:12:51 -0400, Angel Stewart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really? How silly.
If someone trespasses on my property I expect to be able to defend said
property.
If the
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- Original Message -
From: Ben Densmore
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Dog question
Here, even if you have Beware of Dog signs and your dog
This reminds me of one time one of my Chihuahuas slipped past me and a neighbor
was walking his very huge 125 pound German Shepard in front of the house.My
Chihuahua went on the attack and grabbed the larger dog's collar and was for
awhile hanging on the collar, all feet off the ground.The Big Dog
My neighbors had a weimeraner when I was a kid. She was the sweetest
thing ever. But, they always told me that they can be really dangerous
and that once they get a taste for blood there's no going back. I
don't know if that was just neighborhood teasing or not. But, I'd
certainly keep on eye on
of personal responsibility people show in todays society.
-Original Message-
From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:33 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Dog question
He didn't actually lose it but it was popped out of the socket. I'm
not sure if my dog got
I am not a lawyer, but...
Do you have any proof that your dog was on a leash?Do you have any
proof that there's wasn't?Were there any witnesses?
I'm asking because I watch Judge Judy every day (No I don't).But,
without witnesses, your story may be hard to prove, especially if you end
up in
I think I'm taking a very pessimistic approach to this but...
In court, I'd worry that sending a gesture of kindness may be seen as a
guilty conscience.If the vet bill goes very high and you aren't paying...
it likely that you'll end up on court.
At 04:04 AM 7/21/2004, you wrote:
It is a sad
Tiff (who's very involved in animal rescue and other animal related
schtuff) says that often happens when larger dogs do that to
smaller animals -- dogs, cats, squirrels... apparently as a
result of the shaking typically... she also says she's never
heard of a vet putting the eye back in.
Message -
From: Jeffry Houser
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Dog Question
I think I'm taking a very pessimistic approach to this but...
In court, I'd worry that sending a gesture of kindness may be seen as a
guilty conscience.If the vet bill goes very
as
capitulation.
Tyler Clendenin
GSL Solutions
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From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 8:25 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Dog question
I am not a lawyer, but...
Do you have any proof that your dog was on a leash?Do you have any
proof that there's wasn't
Others have already chimed in with their opinions, but I just wanted
to make sure you knew to let us know what happens as this story
progresses.
-r
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:02:26 -0400, Ben Densmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Today I was in my driveway and I had my dog on his runner next to me.
Both my mother and father-in-law were standing there as well as my 3
kids and a couple of their friends. So witnesses are not an issue.
I thought about calling the police last night but then I figured if
they didn't call them and file a report then it might not be worth
doing.
Ben
On Wed, 21
I'm sorry this went down... Now I have one question. What is a dog runner?
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
The Children's Medical Center
One Children's Plaza
Dayton, OH 45404
937-641-4293
http://www.childrensdayton.org
There is no right price for the wrong product, even if it is
I saw a case on a greyhound list I am on where a guy was walking his
dogs on the street. LEASHED dogs, a couple of greyhounds,
non-aggressive, when an unleashed dog came flying out of a yard and went
for his greys. On the STREET. The guy attempted to protect his dogs and
kicked the other dog in
Picture a clothes line with a leash attached. The dog can run from end to end on the line, and venture outwards to the end of the leash.
Jerry Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/04 09:50AM
I'm sorry this went down... Now I have one question. What is a dog runner?
[Todays Threads]
[This
You might be right.My worry was one of proof
It may come down to your word against mine if the other party tells a
modified version of events (see other email).
At 10:04 AM 7/21/2004, you wrote:
Subject: Dog Question
From: G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:00:18 -0500
Thread:
It's a midget in a pink jumpsuit who holds the leash.
Gee I thought everyone knew that.
-Gel
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From: Candace Cottrell
I'm sorry this went down... Now I have one question. What is a dog runner?
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Exactly.. in California, your neighborhood would be in violation of the
lease law.Your dog was on a leash.I see no problem.
At 07:08 PM 7/20/2004, you wrote:
Unleashed.On your property.
Sad but totally not your fault.
- Original Message -
From: Ben Densmore
To: CF-Community
Sent:
Unless it is a Doberman, then its a black leather jumpsuit.
Jerry Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/04 10:00AM
It's a midget in a pink jumpsuit who holds the leash.
Gee I thought everyone knew that.
-Gel
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From: Candace Cottrell
I'm sorry this went down... Now I have one question.
Or assless black vinyl pants, gag ball and n!pple clamps.;-)
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:08 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dog question
Unless it is a Doberman, then its a black leather jumpsuit.
Jerry
Ahh, ok. I was picturing a treadmill.
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
The Children's Medical Center
One Children's Plaza
Dayton, OH 45404
937-641-4293
http://www.childrensdayton.org
There is no right price for the wrong product, even if it is inexpensive and delivered on time.
[EMAIL
In the case I'm using as an example - the dog that attacked - his owner
won.
Of course the attacking dog got kicked by the guy defending his dogs -
and I think the case centered around willful destruction of property -
property being in this case - the attacking dog.
| -Original Message-
of the attack. I've seen it happen before. You're gambling with your pet, better be confident before you proceed down this road.
Brian
- Original Message -
From: Jacob
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: Dog question
Exactly.. in California, your neighborhood
with your pet, better be confident before you proceed down this road.
Brian
- Original Message -
From: Jacob
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: Dog question
Exactly.. in California, your neighborhood would be in violation of the
lease law.Your dog
No way. Every dog that has ever attacked another dog, has been around plenty of other dogs it has NOT attacked. This will carry no weight with an outside observer.
- Original Message -
From: Ben Densmore
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Dog question
and enjoyed by the masses.
-Original Message-
From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:27 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Dog question
No way. Every dog that has ever attacked another dog, has been around plenty
of other dogs it has NOT attacked. This will carry
florida buds smoked
and enjoyed by the masses.
-Original Message-
From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:27 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Dog question
No way. Every dog that has ever attacked another dog, has been around plenty
of other dogs it has
toasty florida buds smoked
and enjoyed by the masses.
-Original Message-
From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:27 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Dog question
No way. Every dog that has ever attacked another dog, has been around
plenty
: Re: Dog question
No way. Every dog that has ever attacked another dog, has been around plenty
of other dogs it has NOT attacked. This will carry no weight with an outside
observer.
- Original Message -
From: Ben Densmore
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:21 AM
Well, it is good that you do not have to fear a lawsuit.It is bad that the
original owner was negligent in allowing the dog to run loose, but even more
negligent to abandon the dog once it got into trouble and was injured.
Pomeranians are a very loyal and one-person type of pet, and If it is
Send the cops after them!! Animal Abandonment and cruelty!
the bastards.
*humph*
Tough for your dog though ;-\
Can you go play with him in doggy quarantine?
-Gel
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From: Ben Densmore
I got a call from the Director of Animal control from the next town
over from me. It seems the
| From: Larry C. Lyons
|
| If they abandon the animal then they deserve all the
| screwing over they get.
I wholeheartedly agree with that. I can't believe they did that. It just
goes to show you that their attempt to scare you by threatening a
lawsuit was for their own monetary gains - not
.
Few things get me as riled up as animal neglect/cruelty.
- Original Message -
From: Ben Densmore
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: Dog question(Update)
I got a call from the Director of Animal control from the next town
over from me. It seems
I all ready told the director of Animal control I would get the owners
name, I don't really know him but my kids know his son so hopefully I
can get his name from them. I gave them his address all ready.
Their dog was really friendly, he would always come up to me because
they let him run loose
How did the Director of Animal control know where to reach you?( Since
you didn't bring in the hurt dog, and only had false information from the
other owners )
At 02:04 PM 7/21/2004, you wrote:
Subject: Dog question(Update)
From: Ben Densmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:11:29
The owners of the other dog must have given the vet my address I'm
guessing. They will obviously have no problem giving my address since
they see me as being at fault. I'm going to have to call her back and
find out how she got my number, I didn't even really think about that
while I was talking
You can sue them - for your trauma/
At 07:02 PM 7/20/2004, you wrote:
Today I was in my driveway and I had my dog on his runner next to me.
One of the neighborhood dogs, who is MUCH smaller than my dog came
into my yard and kind of snuck up on my dog I think he scared my dog
and my dog grabbed
I can't speak to the law, other then to say I sure hope to high heaven that it's on your side.They could file a lawsuit against you, but that is a long way from winning such a lawsuit.
If you do want to express your sorrow monetarily, I would suggest you offer a flat dollar amount that you feel
Unleashed.On your property.
Sad but totally not your fault.
- Original Message -
From: Ben Densmore
To: CF-Community
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:02 PM
Subject: Dog question
Today I was in my driveway and I had my dog on his runner next to me.
One of the neighborhood dogs, who is
That's pretty much what I thought. Thanks Howie.
Depending on what the bill is I might offer to pay half because I do
feel really bad. If the bill is insanely high then I won't be able to
afford it.
Ben
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:08:05 -0400, Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unleashed.On your
I'm a sick, sick person for finding this humorous, but:
I'll bet the insanity of the bill will depend if he gets his eye back.
I'm s sorry...
That's pretty much what I thought. Thanks Howie.
Depending on what the bill is I might offer to pay half
because I do
feel really bad. If the
He didn't actually lose it but it was popped out of the socket. I'm
not sure if my dog got a tooth on the eye or if the shaking of him
back and forth made it pop out. I haven't talked to them since they
got back from the vet so I'm not sure if they had to remove it or not.
Ben
On Tue, 20 Jul
While I'd say this is totally not your fault and the law *should* be
on your side, I'd make extra sure he's leashed from this point
forward.If anything were to happen in the future, this insident
could be used as evidence that your dog has a history of being
agressive.
Again, Im totally on your
what kinda dogs?
this is wild... ive got a 85lb pit, rocky, and he is sooo expected to
do shit like this, but we have 3 cats, and he is their bitch.so, im
just wondering...thanks.
tony
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tony
Tony Weeg
human.
email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
Tiff (who's very involved in animal rescue and other animal related
schtuff) says that often happens when larger dogs do that to smaller
animals -- dogs, cats, squirrels... apparently as a result of the
shaking typically... she also says she's never heard of a vet putting
the eye back in. Doesn't
I understand the following:
1) your dog was on a leash.The other dog was not.
2) this took place on -your- property.
While I feel bad for a lil' dog that got it's eyes popped out and
whatnot...I'd ask the other dog's owners how they figure you're
responsible for any damages, given points 1 and 2
My dog is a weimeraner and the other dog is a pomeranian. My in-laws
have a puppy beagle and my dog plays with him all the time as well as
other dogs. My dog is usually rough but he has never done what he did
today, that's why I think he got freaked out by this dog sneaking up
on him.
Ben
On
I argued the point with him and he tried to say it doesn't matter. I
just kept saying that there is a leash law and my dog was leashed and
his wasn't. It wasn't getting anywhere so I just walked away before
anyone's tempers went out of control.
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:24:17 -0700, charlie griefer
Your dog was leashed, on its own property and under your control.
There dog was unleashed, on somebody else's property, and not under
anybody's control.
To me it's a cut and dry case.
That being said it's really up to you - do you like these people?How much
is peace in the neighborhood worth to
matter.
I'm sorry...but again, while I feel for the other dog, I just don't see
any area of this where you could possibly be seen as being in the wrong.
-Original Message-
From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 9:30 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Dog
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