Re: Plum looks wonderful!

2005-05-18 Thread Adam Churvis
MySQL support is planned for V1.2. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Member of Team Macromedia http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com Download Plum and other cool development tools, and get advanced intensive Master-level training: * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers * ColdFusio

Re: Plum looks wonderful!

2005-05-18 Thread Ken Ferguson
Adam, I noticed that the sys reqs are SQL Server, Oracle 9i and Access. Any thoughts in the direction of adding MySQL to that list at some point? --Ferg Adam Churvis wrote: >Connie, > >Thanks for the kudos! You should join the Plum Discussion List, where there >are many who can

Re: Plum looks wonderful!

2005-05-18 Thread Adam Churvis
Connie, Thanks for the kudos! You should join the Plum Discussion List, where there are many who can answer your questions: http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm We also just recently added a new support feature where we can remotely share desktops with you to

Plum looks wonderful!

2005-05-18 Thread Connie DeCinko
Sorry, I'm a little bit behind on my reading and am just now reading the February CFDJ article about Plum. Wow! This thing appears to do everything but make the bed. Who's using it and how do you like it? It appears to be a bit of a learning curve at first, but has to be a great tim

Re: plum missing mscoree.dll

2005-03-29 Thread Adam Churvis
izard that would have solved this problem for you: http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support You can also join the Plum Discussion List: http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm If you have any further issues, please feel free to call either me or David at 77

RE: plum missing mscoree.dll

2005-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
> I'm checking out the plum ide and it doesnt load right. It > gives an error saying it cant find the file mscoree.dll on > the server. > > if someone is using plum, can you forward me the dll. Of if > there is a known workaround, let me know. You need to install th

Re: plum missing mscoree.dll

2005-03-29 Thread Joe Rinehart
dre, Do you have the Microsoft .NET framework installed? On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:16:14 -0800, DRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I'm checking out the plum ide and it doesnt load right. It gives an > error saying it cant find the file mscoree.dll on the server. > >

Re: plum missing mscoree.dll

2005-03-29 Thread Howie Hamlin
ColdFusion applications >>> Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: >>> http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm --- On Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:16 PM, DRE scribed: --- > > Hi, > I'm checking out the plum ide and it doesnt load right. It gives an >

plum missing mscoree.dll

2005-03-29 Thread DRE
Hi, I'm checking out the plum ide and it doesnt load right. It gives an error saying it cant find the file mscoree.dll on the server. if someone is using plum, can you forward me the dll. Of if there is a known workaround, let me know. Thanks. DRE -- DRE www.webmachinein

plum ?

2005-03-09 Thread dave
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Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-18 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
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RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-18 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
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Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-18 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>Went back to my simple, basic architecture and felt much better. Don't you feel like an ass ? ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tha

Re: [OT, Python Quote] Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-18 Thread Scott Barnes
To be blunt and i've been on Plum since i think adam invited me ages past, I really dig the concept and cannot fault it for what its achieved. I do however hold back in reservation as simply put: I don't have the time or energy to inherit something ontop of a language that has its

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Roger B.
> i dunno, go to myspace.com and do a few searches, that fusebox app rarely > runs right (or could be the developers) if at all. Dave: The fact that their app contains an extra switch/case or three over a non-FB app is unlikely to have any material impact on their uptime or performance. Assuming

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Will Tomlinson
Damn, I made the mistake of reading this one from the bottom up! I messed with FB a little, and it messed my mind up. Went back to my simple, basic architecture and felt much better. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and conve

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Aaron Rouse
s) if at all. > > > From: "Damien McKenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:45 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Plum vs Adalon? > > Any web application will be slow on a 486 ;-) > >

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread dave
i dunno, go to myspace.com and do a few searches, that fusebox app rarely runs right (or could be the developers) if at all. From: "Damien McKenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Damien McKenna
ry 17, 2005 4:26 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Plum vs Adalon? > > now when i think of fusebox i think of myspace.com and thats > gotta be the worse performing cfm app i have ever seen. ~| Discover CFTicket

[OT, Python Quote] Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
"We are all individuals." "I'm not!" On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:59:35 +0800, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Follow the gourd!" > > "No, Follow the sandal!" > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-ba

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread dave
F-Talk Subject: Re: Plum vs Adalon? >>I think you are just being an ass Sorry, but if you need insults to make your point, I won't follow you in that direction. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sorry, but if you need insults to make your point, I won't > follow you in > that direction. Ok Claude, no problem. Good luck. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and con

RE: Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread James Holmes
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Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>I think you are just being an ass Sorry, but if you need insults to make your point, I won't follow you in that direction. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this addre

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I just said I was upgrading a FB application. So at least I > have an example. > Does it take years to understand and know the principles of FB? > Then how can it help? Well it would seem that after 9 years of coding, when you encountered s

Re: Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:23:26 -0500, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because my opinion doesn't match > yours is no reason to call me ignorant or uninformed. I have to say that Adam's habit of jumping on anyone who dares to criticize Plum is getting a bit tiring

Re: Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:53:51 -0500, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The best way for everyone to assess this is to download and install Plum, > then thorooughly read the Plum documentation. Assuming you are running a Windows machine with .NET installed... -- Sean A Corf

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>9 years, none of which touch on FB... so how can you justify making comments about the Framework? I just said I was upgrading a FB application. So at least I have an example. Does it take years to understand and know the principles of FB? Then how can it help? -- _

Re: Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Scott Stroz
I also tried Plum during the beta phase. I didn't like it...then again, I don't like lobster either. (and in both cases, I don't get all the hype) On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:23:26 -0500, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're missing 90% of Plum,

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Calvin Ward
d ways to build a Fusebox application, but nor am I sold on Fusebox as a solution I would specifically choose. However, I would choose Fusebox over no framework/methodology. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:33 PM To: CF-

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The question is not being in favor or not. The question is > that the approach claims it will make the application easier > to follow, and I find the application much harder to follow. > Ok, "it is because the FB application was not properly

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Spike
> > > The question is not being in favor or not. The question is that the approach > claims > it will make the application easier to follow, and I find the application > much harder to follow. > Ok, "it is because the FB application was not properly structured", but isn't > FB supposed > to pr

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>Fusebox is a tool, like a hammer. Any tool is only >>worth the hands of its holder. With a hammer, it's just as easy to >>accidently destroy your thumb as it is to hammer in a nail. C'mon, fuses, circuits, now hammers,... enough with metaphors, periphases and parabolas ;-) If FB is like a ha

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread dave
now when i think of fusebox i think of myspace.com and thats gotta be the worse performing cfm app i have ever seen. From: Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Plum vs Adalon? >

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>You can't discredit an application or the ability to easily follow it just bacause you are not in >>favor of the approach. The question is not being in favor or not. The question is that the approach claims it will make the application easier to follow, and I find the application much hard

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
n regards to FB. Right on, Mike. Fusebox is a tool, like a hammer. Any tool is only worth the hands of its holder. With a hammer, it's just as easy to accidently destroy your thumb as it is to hammer in a nail. Using a tool like Fusebox, Mach-II, or even (ok, I'll say it) Plum at

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > - too many files are included, Are you looking at FB4? The only included files there come from the circuit files or the parsed fuseactions which you do not directly access anyway so not sure how this is a valid point. > - templates names

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > This may very well be true, and this is exactly the trouble. > A good CF application, I'd say ANY application written in ANY > language, should be easily followed by any one who is good > enough in the language. I don't think you will find a

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Aaron Rouse
I understand your second point, whether it is valid or not is probably in the eye of the beholders. As far as Plum from what I gathered in the descriptions, it actually would be a well loved tool around here. Not necessarily by me, but by some of the people in this group. On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>just wondering if this is a case where if someone was then they could follow it easily. This may very well be true, and this is exactly the trouble. A good CF application, I'd say ANY application written in ANY language, should be easily followed by any one who is good enough in the language.

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>If the FB app is structured properly and you can read It is not the fact that the app is structured properly or not; As a matter of fact, I think it is. The problem is with the concept of the structure itself: it is sometimes 10 times more complicated than the whole application itself. - too

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Charlie Griefer
oductivity Enhancement, Inc." > I'm not sure if you meant to do this, but the legal implications of > this are enough to bar me from commercial use. Ah HA! That's why they're giving PLUM away for free...it's a covert attempt to take ownership of ALL content on the

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Adam Churvis
to get the Hague involved on this one ;) > >From my observation and in regards to past threads on Plum, it seems > like they still cannot accurately say who they are targeting with this > product. It surely isnt targeted at developers. It's targeted to any developer who wants to use

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Adam Churvis
hanks for pointing this out, Joe. Also, you and I should talk sometime on the phone regarding how Plum uses the DatabaseBlocks CFC and how it might use an alternate method in the future. I'm not totally fixed on using the generalized DatabaseBlocks methods as the only method to interact with the d

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Spike
I would agree with everything Joe says here. Plum certainly has it's place in the market. How big that place is I don't know, but I'm sure a lot of people will find it useful to them. Having written a few frameworks myself and used quite a few others I know what works for me an

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Adrocknaphobia
>As it is, every generated page comes out >"This code is Copyright (c) 2004 by Productivity Enhancement, Inc." Surely this cannot be true! >From my observation and in regards to past threads on Plum, it seems like they still cannot accurately say who they are targeting wi

Re: Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
> You're missing 90% of Plum, Joe. Adam, you're very much underestimating what I've done with Plum. I wouldn't talk about it if I hadn't looked at it in great detail. I've probably looked at the docs more extensively than most of your users, examined the custom

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
> Plum does too much in the way of generating application code > and too little in the way of providing powerful APIs that can be extended... Ok, so Spike can say in one sentence what takes me a couple of paragraphs to try to hint at. -- For Tabs, Trees, and more, use the jComponents

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
Adam, I'm not trying to attack Plum. If I was, I'd say something silly and offensive. My observations come after using Plum, trying it out, and taking some of its guts apart. > The way it works, > what it contains, how applications are organized, and how Plum applications >

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Spike
> > You can't use Plum in conjunction with Fusebox or any other > framework,as there would be no need. There is nothing that > another framework could add to what Plum already has. > That statement nicely sums up a couple of resons why I will probably never use Plum. In

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Aaron Rouse
Are you strongly familar with FB apps? I am not at all, just wondering if this is a case where if someone was then they could follow it easily. On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:50:35 -0500, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is my case indeed, but not because the programmer was dummy, ju

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If the issue causes an error message, may be. > But for just an upgrade or an enhancement, is is 10 times > more complicated than it should. Again, I disagree. If the FB app is structured properly and you can read down through a circuit file,

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>I have never had a problem finding any errors in any >>FB code I have written. I always had problems find errors in my code, since I make no error ;-) >>As for maintenance, it depends on if you inherited the site It is my case indeed, but not because the programmer was dummy, just because

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>finding out where an issue is takes about 2 seconds. If the issue causes an error message, may be. But for just an upgrade or an enhancement, is is 10 times more complicated than it should. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Robert Bailey
- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Plum vs Adalon? > From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > What bugs me with FB is that it takes hours just to figure > out in WHICH %$/"? template

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > What bugs me with FB is that it takes hours just to figure > out in WHICH %$/"? template is the piece of code you need to > modify. So if maintenance easiness was the concern, they > totally missed the point. This surprises me as maintenanc

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Robert Bailey
It really does not take that much to "get" plum. I downloaded it yesterday and I installed it here on my local machine, and I had no problems and it was pretty easy to get running, adding new modules, etc. I am actually going to recommend it to a non profit group I do some work for o

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Aaron Rouse
Yeap, I for one already have a ton of other things on my "todo" reading list. On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:15:36 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can imagine that it would be tough for folks to commit to reading 400 > pages of document

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Calvin Ward
I can imagine that it would be tough for folks to commit to reading 400 pages of documentation to 'get' Plum :P -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Plum vs Adalon? > Bu

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>As far as I'm concerned, Fusebox is a much >>more comprehensive framework that Plum, in that Fusebox provides a >>structure for your application. May be,... but what if the structure is completely uncomprehensive? What bugs me with FB is that it takes hours just

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Adam Churvis
getting people to look.. I know > a lot of us don't like to weed through documentation :-) We have this: http://www.productivityenhancement.com/plum/WhatPlumCanDo.cfm but there aren't many detail pages finished yet (just the New Plum Project Wizard demo, in fact). I'll

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> But do take the time to really look through Plum's > documentation to see all that it *can* do for you. > > If you don't have the time to download and install Plum, you > can view Plum's documentation online: > > http://www.productivityenhancement.com/sup

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Adam Churvis
Joe, you're completely missing *everything* about Plum, the way it works, what it contains, how applications are organized, and how Plum applications are written. Please, before you go spreading FUD due to a lack of understanding, please either seriously learn about the product or at leas

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Adam Churvis
> What is your (or your users') experience regarding migrating existing > Fusebox (v3) projects to Plum? I've got several fairly expansive > Fusebox3 applications that I've been considering re-doing anyway; I was > thinking of using Fusebox 4 but Plum is intriguing. W

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
> > Plum uses Fusebox too?.. > > Plum has a much more comprehensive framework than Fusebox does. This is like comparing apples and oranges. Fusebox is a framework for organizing your application into logical segments, especially if you use it in an MVC manner. As far as I'm c

Re: Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Adam Churvis
> How does the Plum framework compare to Fusebox 4.1 or Mach-II in terms > of functionality and extensibility of the core framework (excluding all > the extra modules, I'm thinking of the core)? Plum does quite a bit more in its core framework than either Fusebox or Mach-ii. Th

Re: Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Adam Churvis
> >From what I've seen Plum is basically a code generator. There's not > much of a framework to it. I diddled with it for a little while, and > the 'framework' is more a set of custom tags that make it easier to > build forms, do validation, master/deta

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
> If my memory serves me correctly, Adalon is a design tool that generates an > empty set of Fusebox files that have no real functionality -- you handcraft > all that yourself, if I'm not mistaken. Adalon does much more than generate Fusebox stubs. In fact, that's just the Fusebox plug-in for Ada

Re: Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
I may be off in some details, but it really doesn't. >From what I've seen Plum is basically a code generator. There's not much of a framework to it. I diddled with it for a little while, and the 'framework' is more a set of custom tags that make it easier to build

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Calvin Ward
I have to say, that's a pretty impressive feature list. While an odd question, I have to ask, what are the biggest challenges facing someone adopting Plum? - Calvin -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:21 AM To: CF

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Damien McKenna
> -Original Message- > From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Plum is the most comprehensive ColdFusion development tool and source code > generator ever built, hands down. To tell you everything that Plum does > would take up too much space for this ema

Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Damien McKenna
> -Original Message- > From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > what are the selling points for Plum that would pull someone like myself > from Fusebox over to Plum or maybe not even over to but rather in addition > to? I guess another way of asking t

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Adam Churvis
> > From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Plum has a much more comprehensive framework than Fusebox does. > > Maybe so but the following for Fusebox is increasing daily... what are the > selling points for Plum that would pull someone like myself from Fusebox > o

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread John Beynon
PLUM is a framework in it's self whilst Adalon is simply a tool for generating a fusebox application by generating stub files etc and writing the circuit files for you. >From my understanding PLUM went a whole heap further than just writing stub >files for you, they're comp

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Plum has a much more comprehensive framework than Fusebox does. Maybe so but the following for Fusebox is increasing daily... what are the selling points for Plum that would pull someone like myself from Fusebox over to Plum or maybe not eve

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Adam Churvis
> Has anyone done a comparison between Plum and Adalon? I'd be interested > to see how they compared. Adalon is a great tool that I think everyone should check out to see if it fits their needs. However, Plum and Adalon are two very different tools. If my memory serves me correctly

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Adam Churvis
> Plum uses Fusebox too?.. Plum has a much more comprehensive framework than Fusebox does. > I tried to run Plum on my machine and i miss a dll called mscoree.dll > someone can send me this dll?. You don't have the .NET Framework V1.1 installed. If you ever have a problem with

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Howie Hamlin
applications >>> Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: >>> http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm --- On Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:00 AM, David Manriquez scribed: --- > > Mmmm... > > Plum uses Fusebox too?.. > > I tried to run Plum o

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
You need to download the .NET Framework for Plum to run. -Original Message- From: David Manriquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 February 2005 15:01 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Plum vs Adalon? Mmmm... Plum uses Fusebox too?.. I tried to run Plum on my machine and i miss a dll

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread David Manriquez
Mmmm... Plum uses Fusebox too?.. I tried to run Plum on my machine and i miss a dll called mscoree.dll someone can send me this dll?. > -Mensaje original- > De: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Enviado el: Jueves, 17 de Febrero de 2005 11:49 > Para: CF-Talk &g

Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Damien McKenna
Has anyone done a comparison between Plum and Adalon? I'd be interested to see how they compared. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ <http://www.thelimucompany.com/> - 407-

RE: Plum V1.0 Released!

2005-02-16 Thread Robert Bailey
That is pretty impressive Robert Bailey Internal Systems Software Engineer 813-230-9967 \\ mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.recruitmax.com -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Plum V1.0 Released

Plum V1.0 Released!

2005-02-16 Thread Adam Churvis
Plum V1.0 Has Been Released Productivity Enhancement has released its new *free* product, Plum, which combines a code generator with a comprehensive application framework and an effective rapid development methodology. Plum can build a complete website with full administrative control over a

Plum Release Candidate 2 is now available for download

2005-01-17 Thread Adam Churvis
Plum Release Candidate 2 is now available for download: http://www.productivityenhancement.com/plum/DownloadPlum.cfm Release Candidate 2's testing cycle is going to last only one week, then we will release the final release. Please post any issues to the Plum Discussion List at [EMAIL PROT

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2004-12-20 Thread Adam Churvis
If any of you had a problem with requesting a Beta License Key for the Plum Release Candidate, the problem has now been fixed (I forgot to add the new version to the Licensing Wizard). Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Member of Team Macromedia http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com Download

Plum V1.0 Release Candidate is now available for download

2004-12-20 Thread Adam Churvis
Productivity Enhancement today released the Release Candidate of its new product, Plum, which combines a code generator with a comprehensive application framework and an effective rapid development methodology. Plum can build a complete website with full administrative control over a large

Re: Only 5 days remaining in Plum Public Beta... Be heard!

2004-12-13 Thread Adam Churvis
Scott, We just got a bounce from your email address: Unknown host: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Member of Team Macromedia http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com Download Plum and other cool development tools, and get advanced intensive Master-level training: * C

Re: Only 5 days remaining in Plum Public Beta... Be heard!

2004-12-13 Thread Ian Sheridan
Alas no one likes to support us mac users. Ian On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:45:59 -0500, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We want to hear your voices on what you like and don't like about the Plum > Public Beta, and if something doesn't work for you. > > Remembe

Re: Only 5 days remaining in Plum Public Beta... Be heard!

2004-12-13 Thread Adam Churvis
Tony, Did you go through any of the fifty tutorials in the integrated Plum help? They contain some good examples of using Plum's various features and functionality. Here's a list of some of the things you can do with Plum: http://www.productivityenhancement.com/plum/WhatPlumCanD

Re: Only 5 days remaining in Plum Public Beta... Be heard!

2004-12-13 Thread Adam Churvis
Scott, We fulfilled your request for a Beta License Key on December 1 at 2:41:21 PM. I just re-sent your License Key again. Please contact me offlist if you don't receive it. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Member of Team Macromedia http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com Download Plu

Re: Only 5 days remaining in Plum Public Beta... Be heard!

2004-12-13 Thread Tony Weeg
I applied for a Beta license almost 2 weeks ago, and haven't heard > anything. I would love to give Plum a try, but alas, without a > license, it is difficult. > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:45:59 -0500, Adam Churvis > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We want

Re: Only 5 days remaining in Plum Public Beta... Be heard!

2004-12-13 Thread Adam Churvis
The Plum IDE was built on the .NET Framework, so for now it only runs on Windows, but the generated code will work on any platform. Soon we're going to test Plum running within Mono on Linux, so stay tuned... Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Member of Team Macromedia

Re: Only 5 days remaining in Plum Public Beta... Be heard!

2004-12-13 Thread Scott Stroz
I applied for a Beta license almost 2 weeks ago, and haven't heard anything. I would love to give Plum a try, but alas, without a license, it is difficult. On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:45:59 -0500, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We want to hear your voices on what you like

Re: Only 5 days remaining in Plum Public Beta... Be heard!

2004-12-13 Thread Scott Stroz
gt; Member of Team Macromedia > http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com > > Download Plum and other cool development tools, > and get advanced intensive Master-level training: > > * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers > * ColdFusion MX Master Class > * Advanced Development with CFMX and

Only 5 days remaining in Plum Public Beta... Be heard!

2004-12-13 Thread Adam Churvis
We want to hear your voices on what you like and don't like about the Plum Public Beta, and if something doesn't work for you. Remember: Plum is a *free* tool for you, and our goal is to mold it to your needs. We're going to release the Plum Release Candidate on Monday, December 2

Plum V1.0 Public Beta has been released

2004-12-01 Thread Adam Churvis
Plum V1.0 Public Beta has been released Productivity Enhancement today released the first public beta version of its new product, Plum, which combines a code generator IDE with a comprehensive application framework and an effective rapid development methodology. Plum can build a complete website

Re: Plum Pre-Testers Needed

2004-11-12 Thread Marco Antonio C. Santos
Demo link? Yes, flash presentation. It's possible to download demo version? Cheers Marco On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:42:55 -0500, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry... Look at this: > > http://www.productivityenhancement.com/plum/WhatPlumCanDo.cfm > >

Re: Plum Pre-Testers Needed

2004-11-12 Thread Marco Antonio C. Santos
How to qualify Adam? Marco On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:33:21 -0500, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know...I know...prehistoric...it's true. > I'm just so busy trying to make money with what I already know. > I'm a freelancer, you know...no salary here...

RE: Plum Pre-Testers Needed

2004-11-11 Thread Rick Faircloth
I know...I know...prehistoric...it's true. I'm just so busy trying to make money with what I already know. I'm a freelancer, you know...no salary here... I noticed, too, that Plum doesn't support MySQL, which is what I use now...so that, too, knocks me out of the beta

RE: Plum Pre-Testers Needed

2004-11-11 Thread dave
rick throw whatever u currently think about automated app development out the window plum flat at kicks azz!! But u will need cfmx (i believe) but come on its 2004 almost 2005 cfml is a completely different animal now then it was in prehistoric 4.5 (thats older than i am!) get with the program

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