There is a rather hefty discussion on just that on the cfeclipse mailing
list. "He3 dead?"
http://cfeclipse.tigris.org
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From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: HE3?
A question was posted
Very true last I time I remeber a post form him was in a discussion
about the usefulness of gateways...this was pre MX 7 beta... is he
presenting at CFunited?
Adam H
On 5/10/05, Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What happened to Matt Liotta... the same could be said for him as well.
>
The CFEclipse list (http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/) has had some recent
conversation about HE3, though it has slid over into other topics under that
same subject line.
Here's the short version:
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Matt Liotta and Guy Rish - RichPallette - said on the He3 mailing list
that they had "over pr
What happened to Matt Liotta... the same could be said for him as well.
-Adam
On 5/10/05, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A question was posted in Cf-OT a while back with no response...not
> sure how much traffic OT gets so I figured I'd repost here...what
> happened with He3? seems to
> I have He3 downloaded and installed, it looks pretty nice, especially
> the CVS integration and file comparison. However, aside from the
> built-in CFML and CFC templates, I've tried (and failed) to find those
> aspects of He3 that are "specifically targeted to CFML development".
In my mind, CFM
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:38:37 -0400, Michael Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suppose these "unique tools" is what he's after. I assumed there would be
> more (and I'm sure there is) than tag reference and templates in a
> ColdFusion specific IDE.
One would hope so.
--
~The cfml plug-in for
plates in a
ColdFusion specific IDE.
Best regards,
Michael Wilson
From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: He3 beta release now available
> However, aside from the
> built-in CFML and CFC templat
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:18:18 -0400, Pete Ruckelshaus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have He3 downloaded and installed, it looks pretty nice, especially
> the CVS integration and file comparison.
Those features are not part of He3 they are part of Eclipse, you'll
get those features with out the H
I have He3 downloaded and installed, it looks pretty nice, especially
the CVS integration and file comparison. However, aside from the
built-in CFML and CFC templates, I've tried (and failed) to find those
aspects of He3 that are "specifically targeted to CFML development".
Can you give us some i
Windows 2000, XP
http://richpalette.com/He3_Beta_Win.zip
Mac OS X
http://richpalette.com/He3.pkg.zip
Best regards,
Michael Wilson
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: he3
I would to
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From: Buddy Langston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: he3
I think it would be here... http://richpalette.com/
- Buddy
>I heard we could download this today?
>
>any ideas where from?
>
>...tony
>
>
I think it would be here... http://richpalette.com/
- Buddy
>I heard we could download this today?
>
>any ideas where from?
>
>...tony
>
>tony weeg
>senior web applications architect
>navtrak, inc.
>www.navtrak.net
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We plan to post the latest installer on our web site today. I'd recommend
joining the He3 mailing list at House of Fusion if you want to be informed
first.
-Matt
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Tony Weeg
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004
e this would take up.
> >
> > Steve Nelson
> >
> > _
> >
> > From: Steve Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 7:42 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: He3 community input (custom tag paths/mappings)
> &g
ve plenty of disk space, so I honestly
> don't care
> how much space this would take up.
>
> Steve Nelson
>
>_
>
> From: Steve Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 7:42 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: He3 community i
t; To do that you either need to actually run the
template or create a CFML engine.
Steve
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: He3 community input (custom tag paths/mappings)
> How about a server component that w
> How about a server component that would somehow translate the location
> of
> mappings/tags? I think that would allow you to setup a server once
> instead
> of each individual project.
>
That would require that each project know what server to connect to
since a developer may want to have di
How about a server component that would somehow translate the location of
mappings/tags? I think that would allow you to setup a server once instead
of each individual project.
Steve Nelson
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 6:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Su
Matt,
>I guess I don't need to point out my +1 here. Anyway, my thinking is
>that if you don't provide the information needed the editor will
>continue to function, but what offer the same functionality.
I figured that's the way you were doing things, but I figured I might as
well re-iterate my p
I guess I don't need to point out my +1 here. Anyway, my thinking is
that if you don't provide the information needed the editor will
continue to function, but what offer the same functionality.
-Matt
On May 31, 2004, at 10:46 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:
> > I'd also point out, that there are ti
> I'd also point out, that there are times when I want to use
> full featured editor, but don't necessarily need/want to set
> up a project just to edit a couple of rogue files.
>
> So, I want both a project view and a normal o/s file
> view--depending on how I'm working at the moment.
>
A hu
>Do you see people's settings changing often? Normally (well, for my
>projects
>anyway), the settings (DSN, mapping) are setup at the beginning and never
>change. The main thing that _does_ change are the files. So if your
>product's concept of projects would auto include all files in a folder,
>th
> For various types of features we would like to implement in
> He3, we need the ability to locate files that are defined by
> runtime information which won't be available. Examples of
> this include resolving cfincludes, custom tag calls, and CFC
> dot notation references. One way to solve thi
>First, it
>requires the developer to actually configure information in a project.
>I know DWMX's project configuration annoyed me when I was used to just
>pointing Studio at a file system directory
Matt,
The key in to ensure that I can can get a feel for functionality without slogging my way
> I've always found the free as in word games of the open
> source community to be more of an annoyance than anything
> 'real'. As it is more of a debate on meaning than a technical
> thing, I'd love if it was debated somewhere like CF-OT or
> CF-Community.
> Thanks
How about the He3 topic its
On Thursday 06 May 2004 15:16 pm, Matt Liotta wrote:
> limit your use of GPLed software; it limits your ability to take away
> others' freedom by closing the source.
Well put :-)
--
Tom Chiverton
Advanced ColdFusion Programmer
Tel: +44(0)1749 834997
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BlueFinger Limited
> Sorry if this has been asked already, but what is the differences
> between He3 and cfeclipse going to be?
The point of cfeclipse is to create a ColdFusion IDE that is developer
focused, and to give coders and alternative to Macromedia's offering
which I feel falls far short of good (from a cod
I've always found the free as in word games of the open source community to be more of an annoyance than anything 'real'. As it is more of a debate on meaning than a technical thing, I'd love if it was debated somewhere like CF-OT or CF-Community.
Thanks
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Well when you get the feature list posted somewhere I will look at it
then. That's all I wanted was the features. Not all the other fluff.
Matt Liotta wrote:
> Well there are some obvious differences that would exist between any
> commercial offering and an open source project. I won't summarize
> So does GNU/Linux* - the GPL. This protects the freedoms (as in
> speech), while
> still allowing you to sell it.
>
I stated specifically, that commercial software has a license that
limits the use there of. The GPL is a license, but it doesn't really
limit your use of GPLed software; it lim
At 02:58 PM 5/6/2004 +0100, Thomas Chiverton wrote:
>On Thursday 06 May 2004 14:48 pm, Thane Sherrington wrote:
> > What do the terms free as in beer and free as in speech mean?
>
>http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Thanks Tom. I'd always wondered about them, but never asked.
T
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On Thursday 06 May 2004 14:58 pm, Matt Liotta wrote:
> Commercial software ... has a license
So does GNU/Linux* - the GPL. This protects the freedoms (as in speech), while
still allowing you to sell it.
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Tom Chiverton
Advanced ColdFusion Programmer
Tel: +44(0)1749 834997
email: [EMAIL PROTE
Free as in beer means that something doesn't cost any money.
Free as in speech means that something has personal freedoms associated
with.
Linux is free as in beer and speech. That is, Linux doesn't cost any
money and you have full access to the source code and can change it how
you see fit. C
On Thursday 06 May 2004 14:48 pm, Thane Sherrington wrote:
> What do the terms free as in beer and free as in speech mean?
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
--
Tom Chiverton
Advanced ColdFusion Programmer
Tel: +44(0)1749 834997
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BlueFinger Limited
Underwood B
Remember, you don't "own" a beer, you only rent it :)
Of course, beer always tastes better when someone else is buying, which
is why I am so proud to say that I actually DO work for beer :P
Pete
Thane Sherrington wrote:
> At 09:31 AM 5/6/2004 -0400, Matt Liotta wrote:
>
>>The beta version(s) o
Well there are some obvious differences that would exist between any
commercial offering and an open source project. I won't summarize those
since I think we all understand them. The main difference will be in
functionality, which is hard to enumerate right now since we haven't
disclosed all th
At 09:31 AM 5/6/2004 -0400, Matt Liotta wrote:
> >
>The beta version(s) of the product will be freely available as in beer,
>but not speech. We do plan to sell a version of He3 in the future.
What do the terms free as in beer and free as in speech mean? To me, free
as in beer would be a scam - l
Sorry if this has been asked already, but what is the differences
between He3 and cfeclipse going to be?
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> Sign me up for that beta, there is no way I'm going to be able to go
> to a
> conference in another country ( :-( )...
>
The public beta will begin after CFUN-04, but we will certainly keep
you informed. We have had significant response to our initial
announcement and as such we are creating
On Wednesday 05 May 2004 20:24 pm, Guy Rish wrote:
> Gestaltech (my company) and R337 Consulting (Matt's company) have formed a
> partnership (http://www.richpalette.com) for the construction of a new
> product, He3, a ColdFusion IDE based upon Eclipse.
Wow !
Great news !
Sign me up for that be
I'd love to go Matt, but anybody around here who's been to my boss's
place would understand why I could never go to a conference between 1
May and 31 October. (The webcams are showing are annual tree planting
right now. Should have a timelapse vid up in the next half hour.)
Cutter
Matt Liotta
All the attendees of CFUN-04 will receive a CD containing the first
beta version of He3. Additionally, the beta will be available to the
general public from our web site after the conference is over. Clearly,
if you want to be one of the first people to use He3 then you should
attend CFUN-04, w
Adam,
We are current intending an open beta.
rish
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From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 3:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: He3
closed or open beta?
-adam
> -Original Message-
> From: Guy Rish [mailto:[EMAIL PRO
closed or open beta?
-adam
> -Original Message-
> From: Guy Rish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2004 07:24 PM
> To: 'CF-Talk'
> Subject: He3
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> Some of you have been working with Matt Liotta's Eclipse plugin for
> ColdFusion so we thought you'd fi
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