I failed BSCI again today.
It wasn't so bad actually. It was the first time for me to take the new
test in the new format.
Some of the questions were really easy. I could do perhaps 4 Qs per
minute and actually did. Some were extremely vague. It reminded me more
of the old CCIE Written.
I am putting in some 6500's this week. Think I have done all the
preparation, got all the Vlan's in the config and pruned properly. Just need
to trunk it in. What landmines should I be on the lookout for? even
obscure issues are a welcome response. The less that can surprise me, the
better.
D
it is not a traceroute problem, i am not able to telnet to port TCP 1720
because it is filtered somewhere in the middle between my router and this
router, how can i find the router that blocks it??
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Subject:
""Ben W"" wrote in message
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> Does anybody know if Caslow's book Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers
and
> Switches for CCIE's is going to be updated for new CCIE topics in a 3rd
> edition? And if so when it will come out? Is the 2nd edition good
en
Hi all,
I have just installed a site using this IOS version.
All works great except for IPX. The EIGRP neighbourships establish for only
4 seconds and then drops. This is continuous.
A downgrade to c1700-bnr2y-mz.122-2.XK3.bin and everything is perfect!!!
Rather stay away from this code!!
Rega
Thanks,
Yes i was in sub interface mode now I think about it.
Thanks for the heads up.
jb
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If the 3524 is like the 2950 then you just assign the interface
Hello all:
does anybody know how to reset the enable password for a ls100? Cisco
documented password resets for most of their equipment but not for the ls100.
If I can't fix that, I have a large door stopper.
Kamesh
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I just passed the exam on Wednesday and also asked to others.
Therfore
There is no more question about 700.
I'm not 100% sure but I think you don't need to concentrate upon 700 no more.
Jigon.Kim
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As an addendum to my earlier post, I found the following comment on
http://www.networkmasterclass.net/
"Caslow and Pavlichenko are the authors of Cisco Certification, Bridges,
Routers and Switches for CCIE's ... Now in its second edition with the third
edition to be released this year ..."
Looks
Hi listers,
I want to do some form of queueing on sub-interfaces
on some of my routers. Each subif maps to a frame
dlci.
does any one know of a feature in IOS that can help?
most queueing mechanisms I've come across work only on
interfaces (not subifs.)
thx,
dayo
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If you would like more information on hosting with AT&T, let me know. I can
put you in contact with someone that can give you more information on our
Business Services. As far as stability, AT&T just recently opened up a
brand-new state of the art data-center in Watertown, MA. We're not going
a
We are considering new technologies that can substitute the layer 2
services provided by LANE.
Some of our clients have flat networks and use our LANE services acros a
WAN ATM backbone.
We are looking forward to change this layer 2 services to layer 3 services,
so we could avoid all problems con
Ok, here is the reason.
The switch sending the BPDU belongs to another administrative area. They
are kind of our client in some aspects.
There is some difficult involved but we are in the way to migrate from
layer 2 connection to layer 3 connection.
In the mean time, they start to generate lot
Hi there again,
I did the BCRAN today and I DID get a question about 700. But it wasn't
really difficult so...
If you spend some time on the features and the different products you should
be fine.
Cheers,
Claudia
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Sen
you can do priority dlci's and you can apply class maps to map classes I
think.
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> Hi listers,
>
> I want to do some form of queueing on sub-interfaces
> on some of my routers. Each subif maps to a frame
> dlci.
>
> d
Can anyone give a guess to when IPV6 will be implemented in the US?
2007?
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ATT only does enterprise hosting now so its very expensive and I'd need a
dedicated server. The 5-10 sites I have will be low traffice so it is
wasteful to have a dedicated server. www.interland.com took over their small
business hosting. I'll check them out, they seem like a good option.
I notic
Thank you, I think I'll wait until the 3rd edition comes out.
Anybody have any comments on the new cisco press book for CCIE R&S Written
Exam by Bruno?
Russell Heilling wrote:
>
> As an addendum to my earlier post, I found the following
> comment on
> http://www.networkmasterclass.net/
>
> "
Also, check out the webhosting company, www.bigstep.com to see if they fit
your needs.
Shawn K.
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: OT: Good webhosting company [7:5
Hi,
I did not read CCIP edition. And I read (original?)
MPLS and VPN Architecture. I have also Advanced MPLS
Design,but MPLS exam not require such deep knowledge.
I had studied as following step.
Read MPLS and VPN architecture twice.
Attend MPLS course and I make a note with
MPLS course book.
If you ar not in transparent mode keep an eye on the revision number of the
new switch. I must be smaller than the revision number in the production
switches.
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> I am putting in some 6500's this week. Think I have don
I'm not sure if 504 covered it, (it's not covered in the 2 books I've read
preparing, but the BSCI test includes IS-IS. Make sure you're up on it.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/Tech/routing/isis.shtml
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At my last organization, we had someone who lied about their Microsoft
certification. We just called the number that you would call to check your
own status, told them what we suspected, and they verified it. Try that.
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You could configure custom-queue or priority queue using map-class
frame-relay.
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/wan_c/wcdfrely.htm
Regards,
Alaerte
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This is what you'll need as a short-term solution. I tried it before and it
works.
http://www.bafo.com/proddetail.cfm?ID=395
Just a way to turn a USB interface into DB9 for console connection.
hktco
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To:
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Im trying to setup tacacs+ for aaa on my routers. I have downloaded and
installed tacplus from cisco on a linux box (RH7.3). Im looking for some
examples of config files for the tac_plus executable. Currently we use SSH
and local logins for authentication, I would like to continue to use SSH
to g
Well if that's the case then you'll have a hard time finding where it's
blocked.
Ususally, transit providers don't do this, so it should be the ISP/Provider
on either
end of the connection. However, there are some transit providers, especially
in countries where VOIP is prohibited or highly regula
I need a favor. If you, or anyone you know work for either of the ISPs
mentioned above, please e-mail me.
thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
Network Learning Inc
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All,
I want to configure a special priviledge level for our NOC in all our cisco
devices to basically have all commands except config. Looking at cco, if you
allow sh run at any priv level other than , the user will only be able to see
the commands they can configure which defeats the purpose. An
Does anyone know if this ADSL router is compatible with Covad's ADSL
service? Couldn't find it on Cisco's website. Thanks.
Guy H. Lupi
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Brian Zeitz wrote:
>
> Can anyone give a guess to when IPV6 will be implemented in the
> US?
> 2007?
>
>
IPv6 is already in use on Internet 2, which is pretty prevalent at
universities. More info here:
http://www.internet2.edu/html/about.html
Other than Internet 2, it's hard to say. Workarou
We have a pilot of IPv6 running on our campus currently.
Larry
Brian Zeitz wrote:
>Can anyone give a guess to when IPV6 will be implemented in the US?
>2007?
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I'm quite sure you could accomplish your goals with TACACS and aaa
authorization, is that out of the question?
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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:52 PM
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All,
I wan
No third edition and still not published.
But there will be a book Called: "Bridges, Routers and Switches Illustrated"
by Caslow on 2003 (not sure about the date).
""Ben W"" wrote in message
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viewing the Running-Config requires level 15 privilege which allows the user
to change the config.
But try the Startup-Config. You can assign it to any privilege level. If
they are not going to change the config, most of times the startup-config
and the running are the same.
HTH
Hamid
""Adam Hi
Kenny Smith wrote:
>
> Hi.. May I know what is difference between sh process and sh
> memory? My
> vendor told me my router is short of memory due to high usage.
You better ask your vendor to explain this. The term "high usage" usually
refers to CPU usage, not memory usage. Also, there are many
I am for IPV6, I think with e-commerce applications, and because there
is a trend to use "internet enabled" devices. I know it would be
confusing for system engineers, just when everyone understood IPV4 I
know there are some updated troubleshooting tools, ICMP as well. I think
critical mass wi
You can use cisco secure acs. This allows you to restrict commands per user
or per group attributes. But if not, make a privilege level such as 7 and
put commands for that level to execute. This will keep them from entering a
config command. To test just login via telnet and after going into enabl
Wesley J wrote:
>
> I'm trying to provide access from the internet through a router
> to an ftp server on a private network... this is part of the
> config I have so far:
>
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.6.2 21 interface
> Ethernet0 21
>
> Ethernet0 has the global address and 192.168
Your passwords are encrypted with SSH between the client and router, between
the router and tacacs server your tacacs key is used.
I use tac_plus with clients that use a combination of SSH and telnet. Some
routers require SSH some basic telnet is allowed. I have no special
configurations within
I remember scripting my first IPv6 tool for IPv6-IPv4 DNS compatibility
back in 96/97 during university days .. still surprised that the
standpoint for IPv6 among IETF committee members is still the same some
6-7 years ago as it is today (well, maybe with 1 or 2 forward movements
since).. nice to
Hopefully it won't be as bad as your analogy with the shipping port workers,
which is even more fraught with political issues. The balance of power
between the workers and management has a history of being way off balance,
one way or the other, with technological changes being marred by work
stopp
I have been reading up on how to configure ATM on Cisco equipment. In
particular I have been looking at examples of how ATM is used in a campus
network, such as to connect two buildings. The Cisco documents for the 8510
MSR for example discuss configuration using LANE clients, MPOA, Classical
IP,
You can do this with TACACS among other things. Although, working in
ops right now, I would protest with having only read permissions for
production devices ;-)
hth,
Mark.
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> From: Adam Hickey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Actually, the answer is probably neither. The real answer is often times to
source/sink the circuits at the edges and route between the campus
buildings.
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> I have been reading up on how to configure ATM on Cisco equip
With AAA authorization, you can do just about everything (with some
caveats).
You can even give a user privilege level 15 and he/she still can not go
into the
"configuration t" mode: Here is what you put on the router:
aaa authorization exec default group tacacs+ if-authenticated
aaa authorizati
Now I know why EDS stock is taking a beating
When you use TACACS+, you basically offload the authentication,
authorization and
accounting to the TACACS+ server (running on your Linux box). If you don't
want
people to connect to your routers via telnet, set the vty line on your
routers to
acce
Hopefully none!!!
ATM is mostly dead in the LAN with the advent of 100/1000M ethernet
and 10G starting to trickle out.
I know someone will point out and exception but it will be the
exception not the rule.
Just say no!! to LANE
Dave
Ken Chipps wrote:
>
> I have been reading up on ho
Ok, not the 806 because that is dual Ethernet, should have checked the
product description more carefully. Does anyone know if Cisco sells an ADSL
router that will work with Covad's ADSL service?
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From: Lupi, Guy
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PRO
Thanks, to the several that pointed out that ATM is dead in such an
environment. I know that. What I mean is in the case where it is already in
place, how do they do it? Assuming for whatever I reason I do not want to or
cannot get rid of the ATM as the campus link, how is such a thing
configured?
Cisco issues a certificate and a wallet card for CCNP, CCDP, CCDA, CCDP and
a plaque for CCIE. Ask to see either.
Don
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> hi, everyone , is there any way to verify if it is true if a person
claimed
> he has
There is no simple tool to do this Osama. Try connecting to 1720 on some
servers on other networks. While you do this do use a sniffer. You should
get a connectrion refused (RST) from the server. Verify this with packets
captured by sniffer. If you simply see syn packets going out and no
connectio
To upgrade the PIX to a newer software version, do you just do
copy tftp 172.16.6.100/pix622.bin flash
and then reload?
Sounds like I'm missing something.
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Mike,
I guess your reading comprehension skills are on par with your tact.
The original post was in regards to SSH and TACACS, and my reply to that
post was to point out the functional difference between SSH or Telnet access
and TACACS.
The conversion between the client and router is encrypted
LANE would be the solution some time ago.
I think LANE is a bealtiful technology, although one would not consider to
implement it nowadays.
The problem is the propagation of layer 2 problems across your campus
network.
In the past, it was a good solution to built isolated network throughout an
You're right about the IS-IS part. Our instructor in my BCMSN class brought
that up just last week. Also for the new exams, there are simulation and
drag and drop type questions. On my BCRAN exam, there was even a question
where I had to enter the commands to configure frame relay. Some questions
It depends on the pool of questions that you get. On my BCRAN exam, I had 1
drag and drop, several that gave a list of commands and you had to pick from
those to answe the question and 1 where I had to cofigure frame relay on the
fly. Others have said that they had more of the drag and drop type a
A list was just handed to me of parts ordered in my company;
2 - 3640 routers
2 Cisco 4-Port Enet Modules CIS-NM-4E
2 Cisco 2PT Wan IF Card CIS-NM-2W
2 Cisco 1PT-T1 DSU/CSU CIS-WIC-1DSU-T1
1 Cisco 1 Port T1/ISDN-PRI w/CSU MOD CIS-NM-1CT1-CSU
1 Cisco 12 port digital Modem module CIS-NM-12
I don't know if EoMPLS is widespread out there (I'm sure it's out there, but
I don't know how prevalent it is), but Tranparent-LAN services, which is a
much more generalized way to provide LAN connections over the WAN, have
been available forever.
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No, you have to go to rom monitor to do it
Break into rom monitor then
addr ipaddressofpix
serv ipaddressoftftpserver
file pix622.bin
tftp
it will load then reboot. You should then upgrade PDM, which you do the
traditional way.
I just did this a couple of days ago and it worked fine.
Symon
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I think you need to set up at TFTP server on a PC to server the file
from. I heard there were issues with 6.22, I might try 6.3 once I get my
CCO contract numbers right again.
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To:
You can use LANE if you have ATM switches and LANE modules to connect
buildings or to extend Vlans across your ATM cloud.
If you use LANE, you are 'bridging' you traffic between two points.
It works well, but there is concerns about TCNs BPDU and Spanning-Tree.
Remember that you will extend you
I don't see any version newer than 6.22 on their download page. Am I
missing something?
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> To upgrade the PIX to a newer software version, do you just do
> copy tftp 172.16.6.100/pix622.bin flash
> and then reload?
>
Hi,
Does anyone has experience implemting MPLS VPN and/or EoMPLS and could
share it ? (size of network, stability, equipments)
Thanks in Advanced,
Alaerte
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More to the point, it's not really technical or political issues that are at
play. It's financial issues. It's business. What exactly do the providers
gain by migrating? What new revenue streams? Is there a business model in
place to justify the expense of migrating and maintaining two protoco
Yes, it was me that said 2007. Seems the courts want to push the
deadline on updating TV signals before the due date, maybe IPV6 will
follow. In the past people have pushed to use certain technology, now
its time for us to sit back, because technology is starting to take over
by itself. Meaning th
LANE is still used by a couple of customers and I have in the past
simply binded PVCs to VLANs and routed accross. I did this when the
customer had purchased LANE cards, big bandwidth, but didn't actually
need LANE.
Dave
Ken Chipps wrote:
>
> Thanks, to the several that pointed out that ATM
copy tftp://10.1.1.23/pix622.bin flash:image
and for the PDM upgrade:
copy tftp://10.1.1.23/pdm-202.bin flash:pdm
Hth,
Ole
Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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Symon,
It depends on what version you currently have on your PIX, and if it's
with (520) or without a floppy.
If you have FOS version 5.1 or later, you can do it with TFTP. If you have
an older version, you must go into monitor mode as you did.
Hth,
Ole
Ole Dre
Brian,
You do need a TFTP server with the image(s) on in order to use the TFTP
command.
I have not had any problems upgrading to 6.22 - I have a 501.
Ole
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Systems Network Manager
CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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I think that's due toward the end of the year
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I don't see any version newer than 6.22 on their download page. Am I
m
I have a 515 without a floppy drive. Do I need to go into monitor? Or can
I just tftp the file and reload?
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> To upgrade the PIX to a newer software version, do you just do
> copy tftp 172.16.6.100/pix622.bin flash
Hi CCIE Written Candidates,
Have you looked at the URLs on the Cisco blueprint page? These URLs are kind
of ad-hoc, and some use IOS 12.1 and some use IOS 12.2. Ad-hoc drives me
crazy since I desire structure. So I have an idea for a study procedure -
let me know what you think:
Simply go to the
If it is important, I would ask to see the certificates or the sylvan test
output which one should have. However, I would personally prefer to ask
the candidate some questions and figure out what value they actually bring,
not how stuffed their wallet is with plastic cards :)
At 08:15 PM 9/
You know, that's not such a bad idea. Why wait until the last minute to
implement a pending technology; do it now and work out all the bugs before
it's forced on you. I hope people take this seriously; corporations just
LOVE to wait until they're forced into something, so they can gripe and
compla
Ah, ok thanks, I read this a bit more carefully :)
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/110/upgrade.shtml
Cheers,
Symon
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Uhmm,, no not true depending on version.
I just upgraded from 6.1(4) to 6.2 and in fact used copy tftp flash: I went
from 5.2(1) TO 5.2(5) via this method as well.
Things to watch for though are version transitions. Going from 5.x to 6.x
will require a new activation code.
You can get a DES vers
nrf wrote:
>
> More to the point, it's not really technical or political
> issues that are at
> play. It's financial issues. It's business. What exactly do
> the providers
> gain by migrating? What new revenue streams? Is there a
> business model in
> place to justify the expense of migrating
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> nrf wrote:
> >
> > More to the point, it's not really technical or political
> > issues that are at
> > play. It's financial issues. It's business. What exactly do
> > the providers
> > gain by migrating?
Team,
Could any tell me what I am doing wrongI am trying to bring up my
token-ring interface up? I connect the TR interface with a Token Ring
4-16 - media filter via a rj45 strait cable to mau(smc elite mau 4016rn),
but the interface is always in init mode and the port status light on the
mau
Thank you for your response Pricilla, I'm on my way to your page now. This
is just a project for myself to have access to certain files when I'm away
from home, not a public access ftp server. My private network is currently
behind a 1750 w/ IOS Firewall Feature Set until I can get a PIX.
I have
Are you sure it's a 16 Mbps MAU? Try setting the speed to 4 Mbps with the
ring-speed command. If that doesn't work, try hardcoding it back to 16 Mbps.
Other than that, it's time for the "swap 'til you drop" troubleshooting
methodology.
Try a different:
cable
router interface
MAU
Do you hear a
I do agree with this. ATM is a vanishing technology over LANs afer the
GigEthernet came to the world. The only reason for ATM to survive would
be using ATM over WAN.
Save your time and effort and don't get into LANE headache.
>From: "MADMAN" > >Hopefully none!!! > > ATM is mostly dead in the LAN
If your interested I have a new 501 with the 10 user 3DES license for sell.
Its still sealed in the box.
I bought 2 , 1 for me one for my sister, but she can't get Broadband and I'm
stuck with it.
I am going to sell it for 480 plus shipping, but I thought I would give
those here first shot at it.
You don't need a new activation key for the upgrade. Act key is bound to a
serial number, so unless you change your PIX, or require some new features
enabled on the PIX, you don't need new act key. License key is software
independent.
6.2.2 is very stable code. I don't see you having problem with
Looked at your other two routers.
You can remove the ip route 192 from the Mexico 2 router, II-LRM. That
router has one connection to the rest of the world. The default 0.0.0.0 etc
route will take care of all.
You can get the Amsterdam router to talk to 172.29.10.0 via the VPN
In Amsterdam a
I have a SMC MAU that requires an external power supply. Does the one that
Juan is testing also require external power? If so, does he have a power
supply?
The reset tool certainly worked on IBM unpowered MAUs. I don't know if it is
needed for powered units. Nicknamed "phaser" for its similarity t
I know that when we went from 4.4(6) up to 5.2(5) we had to input a new
Activation key. That was during the old boot from rom mode upgrade.
We were running 3DES and Failover on 520's.
I have always asked for and received a new code when changing major versions
( from 5 to 6 in my lab ).
I didn't c
This is what I am getting
r3#
00:10:17: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface TokenRing0, changed state to up
00:10:18: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface TokenRing0,
changed state to up
00:10:26: %TR-6-STATRING: TR0: Ring Status: Down
00:10:26: %TR-3-WIREFAULT: Unit 0, wire fault: check the
Hi.
For those who know about the extent of QoS scenarios to anticipate or
prepare for in the lab, and knowing that there will most likely be TWO
L3 switches per rack; can anyone comment on the possibility of using a
2950 as a second switch if a 3550 is already in one's home lab? Some of
the featur
May I offer an alternative explanation? I've done this once in a while
myself. Perhaps you have accidentally plugged into either the "ring in" or
the "ring out" port? Your router definitely will not like that.
Chuck
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A Great Man Passes
""Juan Blanco"" wrote in mess
I would appreciate it if someone would recommend the best self study material
for the subject.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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