Hello my friends,
I have been looking for a job in Cisco field. I have earned CCNA, already
have MCSE, and doing my CCNP now. While going for interviews, I sometime
feel that this Routing and Swtiching environment is strictly man dominated.
I have never seen a woman interviewing me for WAN j
Doesn't matter woman or man..as long as.. you don't want professional people
with bad temper, shouting , yelling , lying , showing himself/herself know
everything by stepping people down ..personality counted.. i'd worked with
woman enigneer, nice , sweet , confident of herself.. never tried to
hand, but again I'd say be a
leader and show that sex has no deal in how good a person can be at WAN
technology.
Neil.
>From: "Ms. Maria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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wrong profession
for a woman.
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From: Ms. Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cisco for
Maria,
Don't be discouraged by the ratio of men to women in networking. I'm
sure most men would agree that work would be much more enjoyable if
there were more women working alongside them. I was talking to a
couple of CCIEs the other day and they said that there were many more
women at the rec
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To: Ms. Maria; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have not seen any sex discrimination. In fact I think it's just the
opposite. Many are very happy to see some diversity in the field.
We have two female Systems Engineers in my office at Cisco.
I have not seen any sex discrimination. In fact I think it's just the
opposite. Many are very happy to see some diversity in the field.
We have two female Systems Engineers in my office at Cisco.
Kevin
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>Maria,
>
>Don't be discouraged by the rati
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To: Ms. Maria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 5:52 AM
Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman?
> Carry on studying. I have been in the industry for a while now, and have
yet
> to see a lady engineer.
I don't see that there's much discrimination. What you're seeing is simply
a result of the fact that more men than women seem to be interested in this
field. At least, I should say, that's been my experience. For some reason,
I see far more women involved in LAN support jobs mostly dealing with
>Hello my friends,
>
>I have been looking for a job in Cisco field. I have earned CCNA,
>already have MCSE, and doing my CCNP now. While going for
>interviews, I sometime feel that this Routing and Swtiching
>environment is strictly man dominated. I have never seen a woman
>interviewing me f
From: Ms. Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:15 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:Cisco for Woman?
>
> Hello my friends,
>
> I have bee
>From a Asia female point of view, it is a very little bit difference but
not discrimination. For the networking world, men are easy to accept men
can do the job and they will not realize women could able to do it as good
as men. But most of the networkers are open-minded, once the technical
con
Rik
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From: Ms. Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 3:15 AM
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Subject: Cisco for Woman?
Hello my friends,
I have been looking for a job in Cisco field. I have earned CCNA, already
have MCSE, and doing my CCNP now. While goin
behind every good man is a good women
Oz
http://www.mcseco-op.com/Cheap_Cisco_stuff.htm
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>
> Carry on studying. I have been in the industry for a while now,
> and have yet
> to see a lady engineer. I would actually like to see more of
and the pay is decent. You're on the right track. PLEASE keep
going..
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Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:15 AM
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Subject: Cisco for Woman?
Hello my friends,
I have been lo
Title: RE: Cisco for Woman?
Maria-
I face the same problem. Often I am the only female technical person in my company and one of few (if not only) in my classes. My inspiration is my mother. She earned her CCIE two and a half years ago. She works as the head of the Americas'
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> Two more names off the top of my head:
>
> Pamela Forsyth and Priscilla Oppenheimer. :-)
>
> Yes, I'm a shameless brown-nose!
>
> > Hardly a wrong profession. I'll give yo
Don't forget Priscilla Oppenheimer (Supergeek)
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Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 1:21 AM
To: Ms. Maria; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hardly a wrong profession. I'll give you two names: Radia P
Keep at it. Don't be disheartened. Take comfort in the fact that many of the
best author's in the networking field are women. E.g. Laura Chappell, Radia
Perlman, our own Priscilla Oppenheimer. These women are certainly experts in
their field. In fact I have never been to a better speaker on a netw
y
are good at what they do and well respected.
R Gore
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From: Lenita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 9:23 AM
To: Ms. Maria; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman?
Let me speak to this from a woman's point of view. Being a trailblazer
i
Sex discrimination exists, as does other types of discrimination, in this
and most other fields. Sometimes it works in your favor, sometimes not. It's
something you usually can't control or change. The effect, positive or
negative, is something that can be managed most of the time.
I love what I d
I am in Canada and I don't feel the same situation. Female interviewed me for
my job, and I take courses with female. So I think that it is pretty fair.
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I for one am grateful for the good advice and inspiration I have received
from a number of people on and off this list. More than a couple of those
folks are women. I owe Pam Forsythe and Clare Gough big time. I consider
Priscilla Op
ight from the author, who is a
woman.
Thanks,
Dave
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From: Lenita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 2:30 PM
To: Ms. Maria; Chuck Larrieu
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Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman?
Chuck, I'm glad you appreciate women, that's gre
Guys,and Ladies,
What happened to keeping this a technical group. After the huge religious
discussion yesterday, I would have thought this type of discussion would not
happen
I personally have no problem with other types of discussions happening, but
lets not practice double standards
You go. Keep your head up and your thoughts clear. I am all for women in the WAN world.
There are unfortunately some problems women face that I as a man don't. One example is
a MAJOR tele-communications company told a friend of mine, who is a degreed and
certified professional that they had to
two words: Radia Perlman
It's true that women are in the minority in the WAN field. However, it
seems that most of the women in the field are far more compentent then my
fellow males (in general, on a qty basis). The person that helped teach me
BGP and prepare for my lab exam is a nice person
I don't think it is a discrimination issue at all!! I just don't think that
woman have had the interest or desire for the field. I am not sure why this
is, maybe because men are more prone to waste money on gadgets, if you did a
survey on how many men versus woman wasted money on very expensive
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From: Lenita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 11:30 AM
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Your reaction was exactly what I expected.you can't, unfortunately,
argue with real experience
Would you at all be interested
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> Lenita,
>
> I recommend you seek employment elsewhere and/or counseling...
>
> In my office of 12 engineers, 4 are women
. Com
Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman?
"R Gore", I'd love to work with you... My dream job is to work with people
I could learn from, and that could learn from me. .
As a blonde, blue-eyed, slim, 32 year old female, I have not encountered
sexual inuendo or harassment by fellow net
someone else are pretty much gone unless you're just the bomb like some of
the esteemed members of this list.
Now, back to studying! ;-)
Rik
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From: Lenita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 2:30 PM
To: Ms. Maria; Chuck Larrieu
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Hello,
I have been working with Cisco equipments since 1992. I worked for years as 3rd
level support on 1000+ router networks. My experience has been mostly of a
great team effort. This is a great field and new technology keep the work
interesting.
Nadine.
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Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 11:39 AM
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Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman?
Listen and LEARN, R Gore..you need to pay attention to what she's
saying.
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Hello Maria
i make the CCIE in Switzerland. In our class was one Woman who makes the
CCIE. Cisco is pushing woman to learn CCIE in Swizterland. In our cafeteria
was a meeting from Cisco with all kind of woman to find out how Cisco can
push them to make the CCIE.
Greeting
Hans-Walter
> Hello my
d actually like to see more of then. Provided
:the knowledge is there, gender means nothing...
:
:Good LUCK!!!
:
:Andrew
:
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hat makes a big difference!!
Seabreeze
CCNP CCNA MCSE MCP+I A+ Network+
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Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 8:14 AM
Subject: Cisco for Woman?
> Hello my friends,
>
> I have been looking for a job
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>Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman?
>Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:29:40 -0700
>
>Chuck, I'm glad you appreciate women, that's great! Good for you!
>
>My points, however, I think are still val
To the women in this group from a newbie,
The Wharton Business School study "Solo Women on All Male Technical
Teams" shows that a woman is more likely to be accepted on a technical team
(including IT) if she's young, wears sexy clothes and defers to the men
(e.g. - plays dumb & looks good). Fu
. There may be
few of us but we are here.
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From: Hans-Walter Katzengruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 8:38 AM
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Hello Maria
i make the CCIE in Switzerland. In our class was one Woman who makes
wn broom!" LM
>
> C. Bridgett, raised in SE DC
>and proud of it!
> CCNA, MCSE, CNE, CNA, MCP, A+
>
>
>
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Garrison, Cyndi D.
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:17 P
June 28, 2000 7:35 PM
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>
> Maria,
>
> I too have my CCNA along with CNE and MCSE and believe me, you are not
> alone. There are a few of us out there. I have been in the industry for
> nearly ten years and I have m
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Maria,
I would like to add just one thing, Switches and Router and cables they are
not distinguishing between a man and a woman.
I'm really proud that women are starting to attack the WAN world. but I
ised in SE DC
and proud of it!
CCNA, MCSE, CNE, CNA, MCP, A+
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Garrison, Cyndi D.
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman?
Maria,
I also have my CCNA and am
I find that more people consider my age (17) over my gender; it's more of a
shock that I'm coming out of high school with 2 certifications (CCNA & CNA)
than it is that I'm female. I totally agree with you here, that once you prove
that you know what you're doing, it's all irrelevant.
Liz Bander.
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>Subject: Re: [Re: Cisco for Woman?]
>Date: 9 Jun 00 13:02:19 EDT
>
>I find that more people consider my age (17) over my gender; it's more of a
>shock that I'm coming out of hig
56 bit des
Chuck
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From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:22 PM
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Well, like my sister always says, "Do
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