RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-30 Thread Karen Bagwell
]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco for Woman? Maria, I would like to add just one thing, Switches and Router and cables they are not distinguishing between a man and a woman. I'm really proud that women are starting to attack the WAN world. but I

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-29 Thread William E Gragido
June 28, 2000 7:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: FW: Cisco for Woman? > > > Maria, > > I too have my CCNA along with CNE and MCSE and believe me, you are not > alone. There are a few of us out there. I have been in the industry for > nearly ten years and I have m

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-29 Thread Shadi Abu Farha
wn broom!" LM > > C. Bridgett, raised in SE DC >and proud of it! > CCNA, MCSE, CNE, CNA, MCP, A+ > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Garrison, Cyndi D. > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:17 P

FW: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-28 Thread Cindy Bridgett
ised in SE DC and proud of it! CCNA, MCSE, CNE, CNA, MCP, A+ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Garrison, Cyndi D. Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? Maria, I also have my CCNA and am

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-26 Thread Garrison, Cyndi D.
. There may be few of us but we are here. -Original Message- From: Hans-Walter Katzengruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 8:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco for Woman? Hello Maria i make the CCIE in Switzerland. In our class was one Woman who makes

Re: Cisco for Woman? "

2000-06-24 Thread Sue
To the women in this group from a newbie, The Wharton Business School study "Solo Women on All Male Technical Teams" shows that a woman is more likely to be accepted on a technical team (including IT) if she's young, wears sexy clothes and defers to the men (e.g. - plays dumb & looks good). Fu

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-20 Thread Seabreeze
hat makes a big difference!! Seabreeze CCNP CCNA MCSE MCP+I A+ Network+ - Original Message - From: Ms. Maria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 8:14 AM Subject: Cisco for Woman? > Hello my friends, > > I have been looking for a job

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-13 Thread Karen E Young
d actually like to see more of then. Provided :the knowledge is there, gender means nothing... : :Good LUCK!!! : :Andrew : :-Original Message- :From: Kevin S. Mahler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] :Sent: 09 June 2000 13:40 :To: Ms. Maria; [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Subject: Re: Cisco for

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-10 Thread Hans-Walter Katzengruber
Hello Maria i make the CCIE in Switzerland. In our class was one Woman who makes the CCIE. Cisco is pushing woman to learn CCIE in Swizterland. In our cafeteria was a meeting from Cisco with all kind of woman to find out how Cisco can push them to make the CCIE. Greeting Hans-Walter > Hello my

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread gorer
AIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco@Groupstudy. Com Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? Listen and LEARN, R Gore..you need to pay attention to what she's saying. -Original Mess

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Nadine Goes
Hello, I have been working with Cisco equipments since 1992. I worked for years as 3rd level support on 1000+ router networks. My experience has been mostly of a great team effort. This is a great field and new technology keep the work interesting. Nadine.

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Rik Guyler
someone else are pretty much gone unless you're just the bomb like some of the esteemed members of this list. Now, back to studying! ;-) Rik -Original Message- From: Lenita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 2:30 PM To: Ms. Maria; Chuck Larrieu Cc: Cisco@Groupstu

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Lenita
. Com Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? "R Gore", I'd love to work with you... My dream job is to work with people I could learn from, and that could learn from me. . As a blonde, blue-eyed, slim, 32 year old female, I have not encountered sexual inuendo or harassment by fellow net

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
ROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 11:13 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? > > > Lenita, > > I recommend you seek employment elsewhere and/or counseling... > > In my office of 12 engineers, 4 are women

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread gorer
-Original Message- From: Lenita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? Your reaction was exactly what I expected.you can't, unfortunately, argue with real experience Would you at all be interested

Re: [Re: Cisco for Woman?]

2000-06-09 Thread Dale Holmes
CTED]> >To: Ida Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Re: Cisco for Woman?] >Date: 9 Jun 00 13:02:19 EDT > >I find that more people consider my age (17) over my gender; it's more of a >shock that I'm coming out of hig

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread ChrisAll
I don't think it is a discrimination issue at all!! I just don't think that woman have had the interest or desire for the field. I am not sure why this is, maybe because men are more prone to waste money on gadgets, if you did a survey on how many men versus woman wasted money on very expensive

Re: [Re: Cisco for Woman?]

2000-06-09 Thread Liz Bander
I find that more people consider my age (17) over my gender; it's more of a shock that I'm coming out of high school with 2 certifications (CCNA & CNA) than it is that I'm female. I totally agree with you here, that once you prove that you know what you're doing, it's all irrelevant. Liz Bander.

cisco for woman

2000-06-09 Thread tazar Ing
Doesn't matter woman or man..as long as.. you don't want professional people with bad temper, shouting , yelling , lying , showing himself/herself know everything by stepping people down ..personality counted.. i'd worked with woman enigneer, nice , sweet , confident of herself.. never tried to

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Brad Ellis
two words: Radia Perlman It's true that women are in the minority in the WAN field. However, it seems that most of the women in the field are far more compentent then my fellow males (in general, on a qty basis). The person that helped teach me BGP and prepare for my lab exam is a nice person

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Steven Smith
You go. Keep your head up and your thoughts clear. I am all for women in the WAN world. There are unfortunately some problems women face that I as a man don't. One example is a MAJOR tele-communications company told a friend of mine, who is a degreed and certified professional that they had to

re: Cisco for Woman

2000-06-09 Thread J a W
Guys,and Ladies, What happened to keeping this a technical group. After the huge religious discussion yesterday, I would have thought this type of discussion would not happen I personally have no problem with other types of discussions happening, but lets not practice double standards

Friday follies: WAS: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Chuck Larrieu
56 bit des Chuck -Original Message- From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? Well, like my sister always says, "Do

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Dale Holmes
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? >Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:29:40 -0700 > >Chuck, I'm glad you appreciate women, that's great! Good for you! > >My points, however, I think are still val

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread David Smith
ight from the author, who is a woman. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: Lenita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 2:30 PM To: Ms. Maria; Chuck Larrieu Cc: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? Chuck, I'm glad you appreciate women, that's gre

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Lenita
00 9:56 AM To: Lenita; Ms. Maria Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? I for one am grateful for the good advice and inspiration I have received from a number of people on and off this list. More than a couple of those folks are women. I owe Pam Forsythe and Clare Gough big time. I consider Priscilla Op

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Hubert Pun
I am in Canada and I don't feel the same situation. Female interviewed me for my job, and I take courses with female. So I think that it is pretty fair. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscripti

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Constance Cate
Sex discrimination exists, as does other types of discrimination, in this and most other fields. Sometimes it works in your favor, sometimes not. It's something you usually can't control or change. The effect, positive or negative, is something that can be managed most of the time. I love what I d

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread gorer
y are good at what they do and well respected. R Gore -Original Message- From: Lenita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 9:23 AM To: Ms. Maria; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? Let me speak to this from a woman's point of view. Being a trailblazer i

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Michael Linehan
Keep at it. Don't be disheartened. Take comfort in the fact that many of the best author's in the networking field are women. E.g. Laura Chappell, Radia Perlman, our own Priscilla Oppenheimer. These women are certainly experts in their field. In fact I have never been to a better speaker on a netw

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Ledwidge, Feargal
Don't forget Priscilla Oppenheimer (Supergeek) -Original Message- From: Balharek, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 1:21 AM To: Ms. Maria; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? Hardly a wrong profession. I'll give you two names: Radia P

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Roberta J. Flinn
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 7:04 AM Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? > Two more names off the top of my head: > > Pamela Forsyth and Priscilla Oppenheimer. :-) > > Yes, I'm a shameless brown-nose! > > > Hardly a wrong profession. I'll give yo

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Kim O'Connor
Title: RE: Cisco for Woman? Maria- I face the same problem.  Often I am the only female technical person in my company and one of few (if not only) in my classes.  My inspiration is my mother.   She earned her CCIE two and a half years ago.  She works as the head of the Americas'

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Lenita
and the pay is decent. You're on the right track. PLEASE keep going.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ms. Maria Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco for Woman? Hello my friends, I have been lo

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread William E Gragido
alf Of > Andrew Larkins > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 7:53 AM > To: Ms. Maria; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? > > > Carry on studying. I have been in the industry for a while now, > and have yet > to see a lady engineer. I would actually like to see more of

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Oz
behind every good man is a good women Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/Cheap_Cisco_stuff.htm ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosur

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Rik Guyler
Rik -Original Message- From: Ms. Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 3:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco for Woman? Hello my friends, I have been looking for a job in Cisco field. I have earned CCNA, already have MCSE, and doing my CCNP now. While goin

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Ida Leung
>From a Asia female point of view, it is a very little bit difference but not discrimination. For the networking world, men are easy to accept men can do the job and they will not realize women could able to do it as good as men. But most of the networkers are open-minded, once the technical con

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread John Neiberger
From: Ms. Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:15 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Cisco for Woman? > > Hello my friends, > > I have bee

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>Hello my friends, > >I have been looking for a job in Cisco field. I have earned CCNA, >already have MCSE, and doing my CCNP now. While going for >interviews, I sometime feel that this Routing and Swtiching >environment is strictly man dominated. I have never seen a woman >interviewing me f

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread John Neiberger
I don't see that there's much discrimination. What you're seeing is simply a result of the fact that more men than women seem to be interested in this field. At least, I should say, that's been my experience. For some reason, I see far more women involved in LAN support jobs mostly dealing with

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Mark Holloway
ssage - From: Andrew Larkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ms. Maria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 5:52 AM Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman? > Carry on studying. I have been in the industry for a while now, and have yet > to see a lady engineer.

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Kevin S. Mahler
I have not seen any sex discrimination. In fact I think it's just the opposite. Many are very happy to see some diversity in the field. We have two female Systems Engineers in my office at Cisco. Kevin At 10:45 AM 6/9/00 +0100, Ben Lovegrove wrote: >Maria, > >Don't be discouraged by the rati

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Andrew Larkins
PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 June 2000 13:40 To: Ms. Maria; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco for Woman? I have not seen any sex discrimination. In fact I think it's just the opposite. Many are very happy to see some diversity in the field. We have two female Systems Engineers in my office at Cisco.

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Ben Lovegrove
Maria, Don't be discouraged by the ratio of men to women in networking. I'm sure most men would agree that work would be much more enjoyable if there were more women working alongside them. I was talking to a couple of CCIEs the other day and they said that there were many more women at the rec

RE: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Balharek, Peter
wrong profession for a woman. ___ Peter -Original Message- From: Ms. Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco for

Re: Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Neil Loffhagen
hand, but again I'd say be a leader and show that sex has no deal in how good a person can be at WAN technology. Neil. >From: "Ms. Maria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Ms. Maria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Cisco for Woma

Cisco for Woman?

2000-06-09 Thread Ms. Maria
Hello my friends, I have been looking for a job in Cisco field. I have earned CCNA, already have MCSE, and doing my CCNP now. While going for interviews, I sometime feel that this Routing and Swtiching environment is strictly man dominated. I have never seen a woman interviewing me for WAN j