Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread b_s-wilk
In iTunes, it's easy to join cuts from a CD, as long as they're AIFF or WAV. iTunes can do that for you for most audio genres except podcasts. It doesn't join MP3 or AAC files. You need another program to do that. I haven't had much luck either finding the books on CDDB, and I don't want to ta

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread Jordan
To show or hide hidden files on Mac put this with a yes or no in Terminal: defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles YES b_s-wilk wrote: You shouldn't see the .DS_Store file. It's supposed to be invisible. It stores metadata about contents of a folder. Are you using any of the utiliti

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread Jordan
Get info in iTunes does say "Date Modified" but no date. Finder shows date created and date modified. I think you can tell iTunes on the Mac to change the name of the file if the name is changed in iTunes. I believe I read that somewhere. As I mentioned, I'll dig into iTunes at some point to ma

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread mike
Changing it in iTunes changes the metadata, changing in win explorer is just the filename. Filenames don't appear to show up in iTunes. Of course, os x has better metadata support across the board then windows I thinkso... On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Reid Katan wrote: > Quoting mike

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting mike : Is date/time for modification/creation system information or metadata? I thought this info was held within the system, not in the metadata. Would this info be kept intact across os x or windows or linux? It could be, but never have I ever heard of the creation date/mod dates bei

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread mike
Is date/time for modification/creation system information or metadata? I thought this info was held within the system, not in the metadata. Would this info be kept intact across os x or windows or linux? It could be, but never have I ever heard of the creation date/mod dates being referred to as

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting mike : Yes. At this point he is missing the MD or it is wrong. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Reid Katan wrote: But isn't tagging just filling in the artist/title and all that other info? And isn't that the same as metadata? Or am I missing something? So, getting back to the ori

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread George Carr
r Guys Discussion List [mailto:COMPUTERGUYS- > l...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of mike > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 12:18 PM > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem > > This seems to be much harder then it should be. Properly tagging your > cds

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread Jordan
COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem I have loaded books on CDs into iTunes. Many of them have dozens or even a hundred tracks on each CD, and a book might be 10 or 15 CDs long. These audio files typically have a name like Track 1, Track 2, and so on, there are no

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread mike
Yes. At this point he is missing the MD or it is wrong. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Reid Katan wrote: > Quoting Mike : > > Tagging would specifically fix your problem for good. >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Jul 27, 2009, at 5:56 AM, Jordan wrote: >> >> Except for the specific problem

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread mike
The file system is ok...till it's not, and now you are here wondering what to do with all those files that you have no info on. The fix you are attempting is only going to make you work towards a solution that will cause another problem down the line. BTW, these files don't have metadata or they

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting Mike : Tagging would specifically fix your problem for good. Sent from my iPod On Jul 27, 2009, at 5:56 AM, Jordan wrote: Except for the specific problem with the multitude of audio files I But isn't tagging just filling in the artist/title and all that other info? And isn't tha

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread Jordan
b_s-wilk wrote: With audio books I generally have no problem listening to them in iTunes. On an iPod it's another story. I was listening to a collection by Neil Gaiman, with 70+ chapters. On my iPod they were out of order, but not in iTunes. I took the book and merged all of the chapters, addi

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread mike
> > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:02 AM > > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem > > > > > I have loaded books on CDs into iTunes. Many of them have dozens or > > > even a hundred tracks on each CD, and a book migh

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread George Carr
mputer Guys Discussion List [mailto:COMPUTERGUYS- > l...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of b_s-wilk > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:02 AM > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem > > > I have loaded books on CDs into iTunes. Many of them have dozens

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread Mike
Tagging would specifically fix your problem for good. Sent from my iPod On Jul 27, 2009, at 5:56 AM, Jordan wrote: Except for the specific problem with the multitude of audio files I mentioned, which I have a great solution for, I'm pretty happy with my filing system. I have little need fo

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread b_s-wilk
I have loaded books on CDs into iTunes. Many of them have dozens or even a hundred tracks on each CD, and a book might be 10 or 15 CDs long. These audio files typically have a name like Track 1, Track 2, and so on, there are no differentiating titles, up to 25 or 99. So when I first loaded up a bo

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting Jordan : Thanks, I do or have done some of what you describe. As I've said the joining files eliminates the multitude of tiny files, and adding names and labels in the various categories will keep things totally clear. I also take a step that takes the location of these files out of iTu

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread Jordan
Thanks, I'm OK on backups and I tried starting over with iTunes, and reimporting some files and there are still no dates. I'll start fresh again with this when I have another block of time, which may be soon if it keeps getting hot and steamy out. Again, because of the filing methods I've adopt

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread Jordan
Thanks, I do or have done some of what you describe. As I've said the joining files eliminates the multitude of tiny files, and adding names and labels in the various categories will keep things totally clear. I also take a step that takes the location of these files out of iTunes hands. For e

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-27 Thread Jordan
Except for the specific problem with the multitude of audio files I mentioned, which I have a great solution for, I'm pretty happy with my filing system. I have little need for another system. That said, since a couple of these Mac apps insist on putting files in a big pile, and I'm starting to

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread Steve at Verizon
I use my iPods almost exclusively for audiobooks. My method for ensuring proper sequencing is: In iTunes preferences, for the When insert CD option, I chose Show CD (instead of start importing). Then if the CDDB database doesn't have the tracks and/or disks differentiated, I select all and, wi

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread Mike
Might want to learn about tagging, it would solve many of your issues with your library. Sent from my iPod On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Jordan wrote: I have old fashioned filing habits on the computer. I do not use and know nothing of tags. But I do know where stuff is. Now that I know to

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread b_s-wilk
Back up your iTunes library: File-->Library-->Back up to Disk, and Export Playlist Move and rename the original iTunes library file [database]. Then reimport your music. The easiest way to do this is to drag and drop the iTunes music folder into the Music library in the program. Don't do all

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread Jordan
I have old fashioned filing habits on the computer. I do not use and know nothing of tags. But I do know where stuff is. Now that I know to join the tracks I'm pretty happy. Except, I have messed with everything in all the iTunes files I can find this afternoon and still no dates. Sent from m

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread Mike
There are mass mp3 tagging tools out there that makes all of this easier. I'm surprised itunes didn't tag as you were ripping. Sent from my iPod On Jul 26, 2009, at 5:18 PM, Jordan wrote: I have loaded books on CDs into iTunes. Many of them have dozens or even a hundred tracks on each CD,

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread Jordan
I have loaded books on CDs into iTunes. Many of them have dozens or even a hundred tracks on each CD, and a book might be 10 or 15 CDs long. These audio files typically have a name like Track 1, Track 2, and so on, there are no differentiating titles, up to 25 or 99. So when I first loaded up a

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 26, 2009, at 4:30 PM, db wrote: Why do these programs have to be so mysterious and self governing? Welcome to the future. Over the decades I've watched both hardware and software get smarter and smarter. Ways I used to use to trick them no longer work. What you are seeing in the late

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread mike
Just wondering, why do you want to know added and mod dates? I've never shown either of these columns in itunes, but today I did. Date added of course is the date added to itunes..but date mod is the date my system modified the file, not itunes. Seems odd. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Jorda

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread Jordan
t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Jordan wrote: But when I tried it, instead of rebuilding the library from the xml file it changed the xml file to match the empty library file. (no empty text file needed. It creates a new itunes file, and did nothing to a text file named iTunes Li

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread db
Why do these programs have to be so mysterious and self governing? Makes us users into sleuths in order to do anything other than day to day operation... bah humbug! db t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Jordan wrote: But when I tried it, instead of rebuilding the library from th

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Jordan wrote: But when I tried it, instead of rebuilding the library from the xml file it changed the xml file to match the empty library file. (no empty text file needed. It creates a new itunes file, and did nothing to a text file named iTunes Library) I thin

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread Jordan
The iTunes support instructions suggest pretty much what you said. But when I tried it, instead of rebuilding the library from the xml file it changed the xml file to match the empty library file. (no empty text file needed. It creates a new itunes file, and did nothing to a text file named iTu

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread Jordan
Something else happened a couple months ago and maybe they are related. A .DS_Store file started appearing. I've read about what it does, but I don't know why it started appearing. I just did a verify disk and everything seem to be OK. I'll try the iTunes rebuild. Thanks t.piwowar wrote: On

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread Jordan
Perhaps I'll trash iTunes and it's support files and start over. There are 3 iPods I serve with this iTunes, but they are totally stocked. Then I can add to library or import as needed. I keep my audio files well organized. Everything except the last year is also on my iMac running iTunes 7 and

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 26, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Jordan wrote: In iTunes Library.xml dates and times are there. I presume you mean the Date Added and Date Modified are in the xml file. You can force the iTunes Library file to be rebuilt from the iTunes Library.xml file. Maybe that will give you what you need.

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread Jordan
Thanks Tom: t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 26, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Jordan wrote: OK iTunes fans, I've got a question for you. I've got my audio tracks showing in a list and Date Added and Date Modified are headings in the list. But of the 11047 "songs" in the list, there is not 1 date shown in those co

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 26, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Jordan wrote: OK iTunes fans, I've got a question for you. I've got my audio tracks showing in a list and Date Added and Date Modified are headings in the list. But of the 11047 "songs" in the list, there is not 1 date shown in those columns. iTunes stores this

[CGUYS] iTunes problem

2009-07-26 Thread Jordan
OK iTunes fans, I've got a question for you. I've got my audio tracks showing in a list and Date Added and Date Modified are headings in the list. But of the 11047 "songs" in the list, there is not 1 date shown in those columns. Some have been in iTunes for years, and some were added in recent

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem?

2008-11-14 Thread David Newhall
On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:43 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Subject: Re: iTunes problem? Is this the best I can do when importing mp3s, or am I missing something? If you already have an MP3 file it is not going to do any conversion when you import. You will then need to c

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem?

2008-11-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Is this the best I can do when importing mp3s, or am I missing something? If you already have an MP3 file it is not going to do any conversion when you import. You will then need to convert the file, which is what you are doing.

[CGUYS] iTunes problem?

2008-11-14 Thread Jordan
I'm on a newish Mac using iTunes 7. I'm trying to import audio books into iTunes. Some of them come in mp3 format now. When I import these mp3s, they import at the original size that the are on the mp3 disk, regardless of my settings in preferences/advanced. I can then right click on the files