Re: please help app missing ...

2024-09-26 Thread Mindaugas
find in the repos is gimp-help etc. Please reply back. thanks Sincerely, nicky

Re: please help app missing ...

2024-09-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 15:46:56 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: Hello Charles, >The original poster specified Debian 12, not testing. Wherefore the >following is dangerous advice. If they installed 12, gimp is available, unless the install they did left only the install media as repo. If they really

Re: please help app missing ...

2024-09-25 Thread Xiyue Deng
rsday, 26-09-2024 at 06:41 Xiyue Deng wrote: > > > Joe writes: > >> On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:26:07 + >> memorysticky wrote: >> >>> Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12. >>> One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gim

Re: please help app missing ...

2024-09-25 Thread Xiyue Deng
Charles Curley writes: > On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:41:52 -0700 > Xiyue Deng wrote: > >> Gimp was removed from testing on 2024-09-25[1] due to the ongoing >> transition. See [2] for more details. > > The original poster specified Debian 12, not testing. Wherefore the > following is dangerous advice

Re: please help app missing ...

2024-09-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:41:52 -0700 Xiyue Deng wrote: > Gimp was removed from testing on 2024-09-25[1] due to the ongoing > transition. See [2] for more details. The original poster specified Debian 12, not testing. Wherefore the following is dangerous advice. > > I think you can enable sid (i

Re: please help app missing ...

2024-09-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:26:07 + memorysticky wrote: > Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12. > One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be > missing from the repos. > Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc. Curiou

Re: please help app missing ...

2024-09-25 Thread George at Clug
ently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12. >> One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be >> missing from the repos. >> Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc. >> >> Please reply back. >> thanks > > Exactly what

Re: please help app missing ...

2024-09-25 Thread Xiyue Deng
Joe writes: > On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:26:07 + > memorysticky wrote: > >> Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12. >> One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be >> missing from the repos. >> Only thing I

please help app missing ...

2024-09-25 Thread memorysticky
Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12. One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be missing from the repos. Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc. Please reply back. thanks Sincerely, nicky

Re: need jigdo help

2024-09-22 Thread gene heskett
On 9/22/24 04:42, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-09-21 20:02, gene heskett wrote: But burning it, I spotted xfburn in the menu's, looks nice but when will it actually be able to burn an iso??? If remembering correctly from a while ago had to click in the boxes for write speed and some other thing

Re: need jigdo help

2024-09-22 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-09-21 20:02, gene heskett wrote: But burning it, I spotted xfburn in the menu's, looks nice but when will it actually be able to burn an iso??? If remembering correctly from a while ago had to click in the boxes for write speed and some other thing for xfburn to show its defaults, the

Re: need jigdo help

2024-09-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
en does xfburn grow erase/write abilities? > It may have them - I haven't used it. I quite like the command line utility growisofs for an ISO image: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso Again, this should "just work" and is essentially the

Re: need jigdo help

2024-09-21 Thread gene heskett
On 9/21/24 13:34, gene heskett wrote: On 9/21/24 11:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 06:49:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie ls of working directory: -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 46282 Sep 21 06:22 debian-testing-amd64-netinst

Re: need jigdo help

2024-09-21 Thread gene heskett
On 9/21/24 11:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 06:49:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie ls of working directory: -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 46282 Sep 21 06:22 debian-testing-amd64-netinst.jigdo -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 149573718

Re: need jigdo help

2024-09-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Run jigdo-lite in a terminal as root Why as root ? I never had to be root when i used it. (Actually Gene Heskett was not too wrong when using jigdo-file, because jigdo-lite itself uses jigdo-file at multiple occasions. https://sources.debian.org/src/jigdo/0.8.2-

Re: need jigdo help

2024-09-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 06:49:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie > ls of working directory: > -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 46282 Sep 21 06:22 > debian-testing-amd64-netinst.jigdo > -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 149573718 Sep 21 06:23 > debian-testing-amd64

Re: need jigdo help

2024-09-21 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 06:49:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie > > gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi > --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template > Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template To recrate an ISO f

Re: need jigdo help

2024-09-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, I always used jigdo-lite (and described it at: https://wiki.debian.org/JigdoOnLive#Download_one_or_more_Jigdo_ISOs ) jigdo-lite is the official advise by Debian: https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#how Gene Heskett wrote: > gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi > --templa

need jigdo help

2024-09-21 Thread gene heskett
Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie ls of working directory: -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 46282 Sep 21 06:22 debian-testing-amd64-netinst.jigdo -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 149573718 Sep 21 06:23 debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template command issued and results after installing jigdo-f

Re: Help upgrade to JDK-21

2024-09-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Arbol One wrote: > I'd like to upgrade from JDK-17 to JDK-21. > Since I am new to, well, Linux in general, I'd like to know from anyone > who'd done this upgrade if this would be OK under Debian 12 (No > free-firmwarepackages please). > Any advice would be much appreciated. Debian stable (12) do

Help upgrade to JDK-21

2024-09-06 Thread Arbol One
I'd like to upgrade from JDK-17 to JDK-21. Since I am new to, well, Linux in general, I'd like to know from anyone who'd done this upgrade if this would be OK under Debian 12 (No free-firmwarepackages please). Any advice would be much appreciated. -- */ArbolOne ™/* Using Fire Fox and Thunderbi

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-09-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 28/08/2024 01:58, gene heskett wrote: wakeup time is 5 + seconds by which time a sleeve caught on a chuck jaw has already tried to rip an arm off. Taking into account your approach to configure applications so sudo chmod 644 /etc/xdp/autostart/xscreensaver.desktop You need a larger red h

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-09-01 Thread Lee
On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:57 AM David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 01 Sep 2024 at 01:05:21 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On 8/31/24 22:58, David Wright wrote: > > > And so should we assume Gene's report that he needs to actually login > > > again after the screen locks itself is likely caused by con

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-09-01 Thread David Wright
On Sun 01 Sep 2024 at 01:05:21 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 8/31/24 22:58, David Wright wrote: > > And so should we assume Gene's report that he needs to actually login > > again after the screen locks itself is likely caused by confusing the > > unlocking screen with a login screen? Being DE-

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-31 Thread gene heskett
On 8/31/24 22:58, David Wright wrote: On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 18:01:59 (+1000), George at Clug wrote: On Wednesday, 28-08-2024 at 11:31 Trish Fraser wrote: On 8/26/24 13:27, Trish Fraser wrote: S, what do I remove to absolutely, permanently disable the screen blanker? And I mean no chance

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-31 Thread gene heskett
On 8/31/24 22:58, David Wright wrote: On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 18:01:59 (+1000), George at Clug wrote: On Wednesday, 28-08-2024 at 11:31 Trish Fraser wrote: On 8/26/24 13:27, Trish Fraser wrote: S, what do I remove to absolutely, permanently disable the screen blanker? And I mean no chance

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 18:01:59 (+1000), George at Clug wrote: > On Wednesday, 28-08-2024 at 11:31 Trish Fraser wrote: > > >On 8/26/24 13:27, Trish Fraser wrote: > > >> > > >>> S, what do I remove to absolutely, permanently disable the > > >>> screen blanker? And I mean no chance it can ever do

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-31 Thread George at Clug
On Saturday, 31-08-2024 at 18:01 George at Clug wrote: > On Wednesday, 28-08-2024 at 11:31 Trish Fraser wrote: > > >On 8/26/24 13:27, Trish Fraser wrote: > > >> > > >>> S, what do I remove to absolutely, permanently disable the > > >>> screen blanker? And I mean no chance it can ever do tha

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-31 Thread George at Clug
On Wednesday, 28-08-2024 at 11:31 Trish Fraser wrote: > >On 8/26/24 13:27, Trish Fraser wrote: > >> > >>> S, what do I remove to absolutely, permanently disable the > >>> screen blanker? And I mean no chance it can ever do that to me > >>> again. > >> > >> Seems like, in XFCE, you need to go

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-30 Thread David Wright
On Wed 28 Aug 2024 at 11:13:16 (-0400), gene heskett wrote⁰: > On 8/27/24 21:03, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 26 Aug 2024 at 15:42:56 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > > > David Wright composed on 2024-08-26 14:36 (UTC-0400): > > > > > > > ¹ touch Ctrl, the key at the extreme bottom left of the keyb

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-27 Thread Trish Fraser
>On 8/26/24 13:27, Trish Fraser wrote: >> >>> S, what do I remove to absolutely, permanently disable the >>> screen blanker? And I mean no chance it can ever do that to me >>> again. >> >> Seems like, in XFCE, you need to go into settings and disable the >> screensaver. >> >> Good luck! >>

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Aug 2024 at 14:58:14 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 8/26/24 14:37, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 26 Aug 2024 at 10:29:10 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > xfce4 desktop, running linuxcnc, [ … ] > > > came across a dangerous situation yesterday. > > > > > > Basically using the lathe

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-27 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
ng linuxcnc in stable - _maybe_ just use that and save patching? > > > > rt-preempt kernel - so home built? > By Rod. > > linuxcnc - your install or the Debian-provided package? See above. The more you patch / move away from Debian, the less anyone here is able to help direct

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-27 Thread gene heskett
On 8/26/24 14:37, David Wright wrote: On Mon 26 Aug 2024 at 10:29:10 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: xfce4 desktop, running linuxcnc, [ … ] came across a dangerous situation yesterday. Basically using the lathe as a jig to hold a long piece I was tapping by hand, powered up but stopped. screen bla

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-27 Thread gene heskett
On 8/26/24 14:25, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 10:29:10AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: rpib runniing bookworm. Private net. rt-preempt kernel. Security is a closed garage door and lead projectiles for unwanted guests. Gene, First things first: where did the image come from?

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-27 Thread tomas
On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 01:56:43PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > gene heskett composed on 2024-08-27 10:14 (UTC-0400): > > > tomas@ wrote: > > >> Assuming, again, you are under X11, there is "xset s off", which would > >> disable the screensaver *and* the DPMS blanking. See the xset man page > >> f

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-27 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2024-08-27 10:14 (UTC-0400): > tomas@ wrote: >> Assuming, again, you are under X11, there is "xset s off", which would >> disable the screensaver *and* the DPMS blanking. See the xset man page >> for all the gory details. This [1] is a good overview for all the >> other t

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-27 Thread gene heskett
On 8/26/24 14:09, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2024, gene heskett wrote: rpib runniing bookworm. Private net. rt-preempt kernel. Security is a closed garage door and lead projectiles for unwanted guests. xfce4 desktop, running linuxcnc, which controls all 255 volt power to an

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-27 Thread gene heskett
On 8/26/24 13:27, Trish Fraser wrote: S, what do I remove to absolutely, permanently disable the screen blanker? And I mean no chance it can ever do that to me again. Seems like, in XFCE, you need to go into settings and disable the screensaver. Good luck! That I'm assuming is canceled

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-27 Thread gene heskett
On 8/26/24 12:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 10:29:10AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: rpib runniing bookworm. Private net. rt-preempt kernel. Security is a closed garage door and lead projectiles for unwanted guests. [...] You have provided lots of details which don't

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-27 Thread tomas
On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 10:14:59AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/26/24 12:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Assuming, again, you are under X11, there is "xset s off" [...] > That apparently turned it off for this boot. Good news! [...] > so It is always turned off? I think its runnin

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-27 Thread gene heskett
On 8/26/24 12:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 10:29:10AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: rpib runniing bookworm. Private net. rt-preempt kernel. Security is a closed garage door and lead projectiles for unwanted guests. [...] You have provided lots of details which don't

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-26 Thread Max Nikulin
On 27/08/2024 01:46, Thomas Schmitt wrote: In these modern times, home office slave workers need ways to simulate relentless activity. Google "mouse jiggler", "auto clicker". There are mechanical mouse platforms, pseudo-mouse USB devices, and even software emulated mice. This case it would be e

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-26 Thread Stefan Monnier
> - most of the desktop environments incorporate some element of screen > blanking for security (or power saving). There's also "burn in" for some monitor technologies. Stefan

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-26 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2024-08-26 14:36 (UTC-0400): > ¹ touch Ctrl, the key at the extreme bottom left of the keyboard, > to defeat it. Are you sure? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apple_keyboard_-.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AT_keyboard_original_layout.png https://

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-26 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-08-26 15:29, gene heskett wrote: S, what do I remove to absolutely, permanently disable the screen blanker? And I mean no chance it can ever do that to me again. In Settings>Power Manager I selected "do nothing" or "never" for all the options. If want to blank the monitor I use t

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-26 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, gene heskett wrote: > xfce4 desktop, > screen blanker came on and locked me out till I logged back in If everything else fails: In these modern times, home office slave workers need ways to simulate relentless activity. Google "mouse jiggler", "auto clicker". There are mechanical mouse platf

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-26 Thread David Wright
On Mon 26 Aug 2024 at 10:29:10 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > xfce4 desktop, running linuxcnc, [ … ] > came across a dangerous situation yesterday. > > Basically using the lathe as a jig to hold a long piece I was tapping > by hand, powered up but stopped. screen blanker came on and locked me > ou

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 10:29:10AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > rpib runniing bookworm. Private net. rt-preempt kernel. Security is a closed > garage door and lead projectiles for unwanted guests. > Gene, First things first: where did the image come from? Is it originally from Raspberry Pi OS?

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-26 Thread fxkl47BF
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024, gene heskett wrote: > rpib runniing bookworm. Private net. rt-preempt kernel. Security is a > closed garage door and lead projectiles for unwanted guests. > > xfce4 desktop, running linuxcnc, which controls all 255 volt power to an > 11x56" lathe with several horsepower at its

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-26 Thread Stefan Monnier
> S, what do I remove to absolutely, permanently disable the screen > blanker? And I mean no chance it can ever do that to me again. IME, this is a bit of an uphill battle, sadly. Basically, lots of tools can request/cause some kind of "screen blanking" so you can never be sure you've disable

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-26 Thread tomas
On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 10:29:10AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > rpib runniing bookworm. Private net. rt-preempt kernel. Security is a closed > garage door and lead projectiles for unwanted guests. [...] You have provided lots of details which don't help us help you. But, alas, you l

need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-26 Thread gene heskett
rpib runniing bookworm. Private net. rt-preempt kernel. Security is a closed garage door and lead projectiles for unwanted guests. xfce4 desktop, running linuxcnc, which controls all 255 volt power to an 11x56" lathe with several horsepower at its disposal. New install, came across a dangerous

Re: Finding a Debian consultancy for help with large-scale platform upgrade (Was Re: Systems upgrading)

2024-08-20 Thread Dan Ritter
Andy Smith wrote: > Just as some free advice though… > > 1. I find it hard to believe you have more than 2000 Debian installs >without some sort of existing automation / configuration >management > > 2. Given (1), I would approach the task by learning your config >management and modi

Re: Finding a Debian consultancy for help with large-scale platform upgrade (Was Re: Systems upgrading)

2024-08-20 Thread Wesley
. I think your use case is vastly outside of the experience of almost everyone here, so here may not be a great place to find a consultant. This page may help in your search: https://www.debian.org/consultants/ I can recommend some in my country (UK) but maybe that is not of interest to you

Finding a Debian consultancy for help with large-scale platform upgrade (Was Re: Systems upgrading)

2024-08-20 Thread Andy Smith
of us being extreme outliers. I think your use case is vastly outside of the experience of almost everyone here, so here may not be a great place to find a consultant. This page may help in your search: https://www.debian.org/consultants/ I can recommend some in my country (UK) but maybe t

Re: need help: unmet dependencies

2024-08-01 Thread Dan Ritter
Michael Morgan wrote: > When I ran "apt --fix-broken install", I got the following message: > > The following additional packages will be installed: > chromium-browser chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra > The following packages will be upgraded: > chromium-browser chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra > >

need help: unmet dependencies

2024-08-01 Thread Michael Morgan
Dear all, I don't know much about linux and need your kind help. My son's Raspberry Pi 4B's OS is "Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)" (from "/etc/os-release"). Yesterday I tried to run "apt update" "apt upgrade", but it stuck at upgrading pa

Re: Help installing gdb package using apt

2024-07-15 Thread Demetrius Stanton
offline. I later decided to take it online. I updated the sources list with a single source, thinking that one would be necessary to get connected, and it worked... for a while. Thanks again for all the help! Demetrius Stanton On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 5:59 PM Tom Dial wrote: > Hi Demetr

Re: Help installing gdb package using apt

2024-07-15 Thread Tom Dial
ebian-user list (debian-user@lists.debian.org <mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org>). It is a fairly active list that includes people with a wide range of knowledge and who generally are willing to help. You should provide additional information (and will be asked to do so if you do not), s

Re: Help installing gdb package using apt

2024-07-15 Thread Lee
On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 11:07 AM Demetrius Stanton wrote: > > Hi! > > My name is Demetrius Stanton. It was suggested that I reach out for a problem > I'm experiencing trying to install gdb on my system. I'm willing to submit > whatever information is necessary to try and get this issue resolved.

Re: Help installing gdb package using apt

2024-07-15 Thread Pranjal Singh
Hi Demetrius, On 15/07/24 17:12, Demetrius Stanton wrote: [...] I recently encountered a weird error, and I can't seem to find a fix online. When I run the command ` sudo apt update && sudo apt install gdb -y `, I receive an 404 error stating failed to fetch https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool

Re: Help installing gdb package using apt

2024-07-15 Thread The Wanderer
, then installing the desired package(s) again. I don't think a full-upgrade will be necessary in your circumstances, although it would *probably* not hurt. If the install attempt still fails, you can try 'apt full-upgrade' and see whether it produces something reasonable. &

Help installing gdb package using apt

2024-07-15 Thread Demetrius Stanton
an-user list ( debian-user@lists.debian.org). It is a fairly active list that includes people with a wide range of knowledge and who generally are willing to help. You should provide additional information (and will be asked to do so if you do not), since what you give above is a bit sketchy.

Solution [Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs]

2024-07-05 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/29/2024 12:17 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 06:37:23AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] When searching for information on regular expressions I came across one that did it by searching for {"1 thru 9" OR "10 thru 99" OR "100 thru 999"} . I lost the reference ;

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-30 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-06-30 14:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 12:32:15 +0100, mick.crane wrote: got it thanks. I don't know what you're trying to do, but ERE [0-7]{1,2} matches one- or two-digit *octal* numbers (e.g. 5, 07, 72, 77) but not numbers that contains the digits 8 or 9. D

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-30 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 09:21:57AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Do you have a book whose verses are enumerated in octal? No one clarified that this was the *Christian* Bible. 😀 Thanks, Andy

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 12:32:15 +0100, mick.crane wrote: > got it thanks. > > > > > > > I don't know what you're trying to do, but ERE [0-7]{1,2} matches one- or two-digit *octal* numbers (e.g. 5, 07, 72, 77) but not numbers that contains the digits 8 or 9. Do you have a book whose verses

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-30 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-06-29 20:29, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 20:18:02 +0100, mick.crane wrote: Oh, I see what the question was. There is "use regular expressions", "use multi line matching" in Geany I'm not very good at regular expressions. I'd probably do it 3 times "search for" "search f

Re: Curt having his fits [was: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs]

2024-06-29 Thread Will Mengarini
* Richard [24-06/30=Su 00:57 +0200]: > That's how you warrant your ban, idiot. Don't get yourself banned, Richard. Anybody else remember Erik Naggum?

Re: Curt having his fits [was: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs]

2024-06-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 00:57:07 +0200, Richard wrote: > That's how you warrant your ban, idiot. Let it go. Don't keep pouring more fuel on the fire. Add Curt to your killfile (or whatever your MUA calls your ban list). He's already been banned by the list admins anyway, so your local ban is jus

Re: Curt having his fits [was: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs]

2024-06-29 Thread Richard
That's how you warrant your ban, idiot. On 29.06.24 20:40, Curt wrote: On 2024-06-29, wrote: Defamatory. What are you, a fucking lawyer? Sue me then, you little snit. Bad day today? As usual, you cut all that was pertinent to your meretricious commentary and left only what suited your brai

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-06-29 20:29, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 20:18:02 +0100, mick.crane wrote: Oh, I see what the question was. There is "use regular expressions", "use multi line matching" in Geany I'm not very good at regular expressions. I'd probably do it 3 times "search for" "search f

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 20:18:02 +0100, mick.crane wrote: > Oh, I see what the question was. > There is "use regular expressions", "use multi line matching" in Geany > I'm not very good at regular expressions. > I'd probably do it 3 times > "search for" > "search for" > "search for" There's mor

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-06-29 16:09, Max Nikulin wrote: On 29/06/2024 20:07, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-06-29 12:34, Max Nikulin wrote: To manipulate with HTML it is better to write a script in some programming language, e.g. for python there are lxml etree and BeautifulSoup packages. This way it is easier to m

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread David Wright
On Sat 29 Jun 2024 at 17:08:04 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2024-06-28 20:53:50 +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > Yes, it almost certainly can be done with a single sed (or other > > similar tool) invocation where the regular expression matches > > precisely what you want it to match. But

Re: Curt having his fits [was: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs]

2024-06-29 Thread Curt
On 2024-06-29, wrote: > > >> Defamatory. What are you, a fucking lawyer? Sue me then, you little snit. > > Bad day today? As usual, you cut all that was pertinent to your meretricious commentary and left only what suited your brain-damaged hypocrisy. BTW, eliding a succinct paragraph to leave o

Curt having his fits [was: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs]

2024-06-29 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 05:43:15PM -, Curt wrote: [...] > Defamatory. What are you, a fucking lawyer? Sue me then, you little snit. Bad day today? I can't help you. I'm out of this thread. -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Curt
On 2024-06-29, wrote: > >> Owlett is a notorious troll who never listens to reason. > > This is wrong, borderline defamatory. Richard Owlett is not a Andy Smith: It's not an authentic Owlett thread unless it contains an enormous XY problem, a monomaniacal obsession with a solution already pa

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 06:37:23AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > When searching for information on regular expressions I came across one that > did it by searching for >{"1 thru 9" OR "10 thru 99" OR "100 thru 999"} . > I lost the reference ;< That would be something like ([0-9]|[1-9]

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread tomas
ine defamatory. Richard Owlett is not a troll [1]. He may be uncommon in the way he approaches things, and I do understand his ways may annoy some people. If they annoy you, you always may choose to not respond. Others will chime in. Much more polite and much more effective for the whole mailing list

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Lee
Hi, > > So you may prefer to use regexes as > > Murphy intended, handling both the opening and closing tags at the same > > time, leaving the intervening text intact. > > In this particular case I suspect it would become overly complex. > I've already discovered that the order of edits is importan

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Curt
On 2024-06-29, Michael Kjörling wrote: >> >> HUH ?? > > ..._focus on the goal_. > Owlett is a notorious troll who never listens to reason. But you people adore this kind of troll, inexplicably, perhaps because he allows you to expand endlessly on your reams of essentially useless knowl

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/06/2024 20:07, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-06-29 12:34, Max Nikulin wrote: To manipulate with HTML it is better to write a script in some programming language, e.g. for python there are lxml etree and BeautifulSoup packages. This way it is easier to maintain valid document structure with pai

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2024-06-28 20:53:50 +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > Yes, it almost certainly can be done with a single sed (or other > similar tool) invocation where the regular expression matches > precisely what you want it to match. But unless this is something you > will do very often, I tend to prefer rea

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 01:46:27PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 29 Jun 2024 06:12 -0500, from rowl...@access.net (Richard Owlett): > >> there may be other closing tags you don't want to > >> change because they close other tags we haven't seen. > > > > Chuckle ;} The appropriate "

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 29 Jun 2024 05:51 -0500, from rowl...@access.net (Richard Owlett): >> Ignoring the question about Emacs > > Emacs *CAN NOT* be ignored. I did not say to ignore _Emacs_. I said that I was ignoring the _question_ about Emacs, to instead... >> and focusing on the goal (your ^^

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 29 Jun 2024 06:12 -0500, from rowl...@access.net (Richard Owlett): >>> $ for v in $(seq 1 119); do sed -i 's,>> id="V'$v'">,,g' ./*.html; done >> >> Having done that (or similar), don't forget to change the relevant >> closing tags to closing tags. However, there may be >> other closing tags

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-06-29 12:34, Max Nikulin wrote: On 29/06/2024 11:48, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Do M-x (hold Meta, most of the time your Alt key, then "x"). You get a command for a prompt. Enter "query-replace-regexp" And to get help for this function C-h f query-replace-rege

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/29/2024 06:51 AM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/28/2024 03:53 PM, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 28 Jun 2024 14:04 -0500, from rowl...@access.net (Richard Owlett): I need to replace ANY occurrence of thru [at most] by I'm reforma

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 07:43:47 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > The option "g" means that said should do this multiple times if > it occurs in the same file (globally, like grep) instead of the > default behavior which is to find the first match and just > change that. The g option in sed's s command

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 21:23:03 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 20:53:50 + > Michael Kjörling wrote: > > > $ for v in $(seq 1 119); do sed -i 's, > id="V'$v'">,,g' ./*.html; done > > > > Be sure to have a copy in case something goes wrong; and diff(1) a few > > files afte

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/28/2024 03:53 PM, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 28 Jun 2024 14:04 -0500, from rowl...@access.net (Richard Owlett): > > > I need to replace ANY occurrence of > > > > > >thru [at most] > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > I'm reformatting a Bible

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread debian-user
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/28/2024 03:53 PM, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 28 Jun 2024 14:04 -0500, from rowl...@access.net (Richard > > Owlett): > >> I need to replace ANY occurrence of > >> > >>thru [at most] > >> > >> by > >> > >> > >> I'm reformatting a Bible st

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/28/2024 11:48 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 02:04:37PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Pluma is my editor of choice. *BUT* it can NOT handle Search and Replace operations involving regular expressions. I would be *very* surprised if an editor, these days and age can't

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/06/2024 11:48, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Do M-x (hold Meta, most of the time your Alt key, then "x"). You get a command for a prompt. Enter "query-replace-regexp" And to get help for this function C-h f query-replace-regexp RET To open user manual switch to

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/28/2024 10:23 PM, Charles Curley wrote: On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 20:53:50 + Michael Kjörling wrote: $ for v in $(seq 1 119); do sed -i 's,,,g' ./*.html; done Be sure to have a copy in case something goes wrong; and diff(1) a few files afterwards to make sure that the result is as you int

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/28/2024 03:53 PM, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 28 Jun 2024 14:04 -0500, from rowl...@access.net (Richard Owlett): I need to replace ANY occurrence of thru [at most] by I'm reformatting a Bible stored in HTML format for a particular set of vision impaired seniors (my

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/28/2024 02:33 PM, Van Snyder wrote: On Fri, 2024-06-28 at 14:04 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Pluma is my editor of choice. *BUT* it can NOT handle Search and Replace operations involving regular expressions. Emacs can. It has much verbose documentation. But examples seem rather scarce.

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread Richard Owlett
the Perl way: https://wiki.mate-desktop.org/mate-desktop/applications/pluma/ Hadn't seen that page. I based my opinion on what I saw when doing a Search and Replace. Also Pluma's Help function doesn't mention it. https://perldoc.perl.org/perlre That page is thin on examples.

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