I have been reading but keeping my fingers off the keyboard waiting to
see how this ends...happy for you kitus...
but, is there really a problem with pickpockets? I haven't heard that
referenced for decades. I thought that the thieves moved on to other
occupations :)
Jim
kitus wrote:
> HAHAHAH! If you are ever near Barcelona, give me a shout and we can have
> a beer instead!I loved Barcelona, apart from the pickpockets...
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> Good man, now, about the last loaf you bought
,,
HAHAHAH! If you are ever near Barcelona, give me a shout and we can have
a beer instead!
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kitus wrote:
> Sure, I intend to update my own GitHub Issue next weekend. Will echo it
> here.
Good man, now, about the last loaf you bought
,,
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Man in a van wrote:
> It would be _-*cooler_and_helpful*-_ if you give a detailed account of
> what you did :)
>
> For example
>
>
> does not explain how you did it :confused:
>
> Do you get my drift ? :):)
>
> ronnie
Sure, I intend to update my own GitHub Issue next weekend. Will echo
kitus wrote:
> Everyone, after the many hours I spent during the weekend on this, and
> thanks to your continuous support, I'm glad to say that my system is
> working smoothly. Right now my system:
> > > >
- usbconnectd is not working in the background, because I don't
> think I need
kitus wrote:
> Everyone, after the many hours I spent during the weekend on this, and
> thanks to your continuous support, I'm glad to say that my system is
> working smoothly. Right now my system:
> > > >
- usbconnectd is not working in the background, because I don't
> think I need
kitus wrote:
> Moved the extension into this folder
> >
Code:
> > /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/optional
> >
>
> and it now seems to have been loaded during boot process
>
> >
Code:
> >
kitus wrote:
> Moved the extension into this folder
> >
Code:
> > /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/optional
> >
>
> and it now seems to have been loaded during boot process
>
> >
Code:
> >
kitus wrote:
>
> I had to leave home, but before I left, I think I saw the DAC going into
> standby!!! Will confirm later. If that is true, then I just need to
> ensure the extension is loaded during boot time!
>
Moved the extension into this folder
Code:
kitus wrote:
>
>
> @ronnie, did you do anything to get usb-power to create that file other
> than loading the extension manually and ensuring it is listed on the
> onboot.lst?
>
> thanks!
m, maybe usb-power is not being launched after all:
Code:
slartibartfast wrote:
> If you don't unplug pCP or your DAC I don't understand why you need
> usbconnectd. I thought it was only needed to restart Squeezelite when an
> unplugged DAC was switched on again.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
@slartibartfast, now that I'm trying to
Man in a van wrote:
> I remove the settings on the tweaks page but it still does work
>
> I found the missing file
> >
Code:
> >
> tc@pCP:/etc/udev/rules.d$ ls -l
> total 68
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root73 Jan 1 1970
Man in a van wrote:
> Well I just restored them and rebooted
>
> Pressing the green power button just pauses the playback.
>
> If I pull and replug the usb cable the dac starts the stanby process, I
> have to re start squeezelite to stop it.
>
> I have to say, it all seems a bit unnecessary,
slartibartfast wrote:
> Those uhubctl commands simulate removing and replacing the USB cable. If
> you don't use them then you need to unplug and replace the USB cable
> every time the Pi is restarted.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Well I just restored them and rebooted
Pressing
Man in a van wrote:
> I have it working now :)
>
> Unplugging the usb lead to the dac did the trick (as per your comments
> on the github thread)
>
> But that's not a good thing.
>
> I removed the uhubctl instructions from the Tweaks page and restarted
> squeezelite; the dac started to go
ralphy wrote:
> Using the -C option only releases/closes the audio device. It does not
> shutdown the squeezelite instance.
>
> There was an 'issue #153'
> (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/153) around starting
> squeezelite with -C and the audio device was already in use
slartibartfast wrote:
> After you removed the commands in tweaks does it still work after
> rebooting your pCP?
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
I have it working now :)
Unplugging the usb lead to the dac did the trick (as per your comments
on the github thread)
But that's not a
Man in a van wrote:
> -@RALPHY-
>
> -C
> Close the output device after seconds of the player being
> idle; the default is to always keep the device open as long as the payer
> is "on".
>
>
> Would you please explain about this setting, I think I have alway
> misunderstood the function it
kitus wrote:
> I would typically not switch off the picoreplayer on LMS. I never
> thought it was necessary, but now that I come to think about it, having
> a player that all of the sudden "sees" that the next device downstream
> (the DAC) either goes offline, is in standby, or whatever, could
Man in a van wrote:
> I remove the settings on the tweaks page but it still does work
>
> I found the missing file
> >
Code:
> >
> tc@pCP:/etc/udev/rules.d$ ls -l
> total 68
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root73 Jan 1 1970
Man in a van wrote:
> I tried the pCP route this morning,
>
> >
Code:
> >
> ceo
>
> wget
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz
>
> wget
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz.md5.txt
I remove the settings on the tweaks page but it still does work
I found the missing file
Code:
tc@pCP:/etc/udev/rules.d$ ls -l
total 68
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root73 Jan 1 1970
01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules ->
I tried the pCP route this morning,
Code:
ceo
wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz
wget
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz.md5.txt
md5sum -c usb-power.tcz.md5.txt
slartibartfast wrote:
> Do you have the issue if you don't turn off the DAC or install
> usbconnectd? What does usbconnectd do?
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
I would typically not switch off the picoreplayer on LMS. I never
thought it was necessary, but now that I come to think
Man in a van wrote:
> -@RALPHY-
>
> -C
> Close the output device after seconds of the player being
> idle; the default is to always keep the device open as long as the payer
> is "on".
>
>
> Would you please explain about this setting, I think I have alway
> misunderstood the function it
kitus wrote:
> Im not at home but will review this later today. Thanks for the
> detailed write-up, and for naming your pi after me!! :)
Hi there @ronnie,
this is what I see
Code:
tc@piCorePlayerLMS:~$ sudo /usr/local/etc/init.d/squeezelite status
Squeezelite is
-@RALPHY-
-C
Close the output device after seconds of the player being
idle; the default is to always keep the device open as long as the payer
is "on".
Would you please explain about this setting, I think I have alway
misunderstood the function it performs.
I thought that -C stopped
ralphy wrote:
> To have the usb-power extension load at boot you need to add
> usb-power.tcz to the end of /mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/onboot.lst
Yep, that is already something I configured yesterday. I saw that in the
GitHub issue shared earlier by @slartibartfast.
Once it is loaded during startup,
Man in a van wrote:
> @ronnie, my biggest issue is not DAC standby. What really pisses me off
> is what I posted in my last message:
>
>
>
> Squeezelite is either off or on
>
> If it has the -z flag it is always on (in the background)
>
> If it has the -C flag then it will drop the
@ronnie, my biggest issue is not DAC standby. What really pisses me off
is what I posted in my last message:
>
> I would be very thankful if you provided some guidance to making my
> system go into standby when pressing the on/off button on LMS. Making my
> DAC go into standby is important,
kitus wrote:
>
> If I understood 'this post'
> (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/114) correctly, by
> having usb-power extension loaded upon start, a udev rule should have to
> have been created during system start, right? That is at least what I
> understood from this
My LMS runs on a rpi4b which is left on 24/7
I have several dacs to choose from, but each one has a raspberry pi as a
Squeezelite player.
So, with a Topping dac;
When I stop listening to music, I pause the player and send a remote
signal via a smartphone app to "sudo shutdown -h now" (that's
A
the goalposts keep moving
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kitus wrote:
> hehe, agreed. I only power it off because thats the only way I think
> usbconnectd will notice it is back alive, and then will take action and
> kill squeezelite for meDo you have the issue if you if don't turn off the DAC
> or install
usbconnectd? What does usbconnectd do?
slartibartfast wrote:
> I don't ever power off my DAC. 1.8W is the least of my worries when it
> comes to wasted energy [emoji3]
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
hehe, agreed. I only power it off because thats the only way I think
usbconnectd will notice it is back alive, and then
kitus wrote:
> Mmm, not sure what that switch is. Ive tried switching off the player
> on the LMS interface, but as there are multiple combinations (DAC in
> standby, DAC powered off, switch on, switch off, etc.), not sure Ive
> tested all possible escenarios.
>
> What do you typically do
slartibartfast wrote:
> I have never seen that behaviour. Do you turn off your pCP at the mains
> switch?
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Mmm, not sure what that switch is. Ive tried switching off the player
on the LMS interface. Do you refer to that one? If so, as there are
multiple
kitus wrote:
> HAHAHAH I will try to remember that!
>
> @ronnie, my biggest issue is not DAC standby. What really pisses me off
> is what I posted in my last message:
>
>
> I really have not figure out what pattern triggers that behaviour; in
> other words, I'm not sure if it the triggering
Man in a van wrote:
> I woke up really early today and could not get back to sleep :confused:
>
> Popped the heating on and got up about 3.30 am
>
> A Paddington toast and marmalade with an instant nescafe and I was
> looking for something to do :(
>
> Several hours later;
>
> I have a
Man in a van wrote:
> I woke up really early today and could not get back to sleep :confused:
>
> Popped the heating on and got up about 3.30 am
>
> A Paddington toast and marmalade with an instant nescafe and I was
> looking for something to do :(
>
> Several hours later;
>
> I have a
I woke up really early today and could not get back to sleep :confused:
Popped the heating on and got up about 3.30 am
A Paddington toast and marmalade with an instant nescafe and I was
looking for something to do :(
Several hours later;
I have a working Raspberry PI OS Bullseye 32bit Lite
ralphy wrote:
> It appears the sourceforge have removed all my files from the website
> again. I'll open another ticket to try and get this sorted.
>
> In the meantime you can grab it from here.
>
> >
Code:
> > wget
ralphy wrote:
> It appears the sourceforge have removed all my files from the website
> again. I'll open another ticket to try and get this sorted.
>
> In the meantime you can grab it from here.
>
> >
Code:
> > wget
Greg Erskine wrote:
> Using an extension makes it easy for a DAC E30 user but more difficult
> if you want to do edits.I think I added an extra line to my udev rule to add
> an autosuspend
time. Admittedly I can't remember how I did this but probably via SSH
and a test editor.
Sent from my
slartibartfast wrote:
> I agree that thread is confusing.
>
> 1. Install the usb-power extension and uhubctl if necessary.
> 2. Edit the udev rule to contain the correct Id for your DAC
> 3. Add the two uhubctl commands in pCP user commands.
>
> Reboot. I think that should do it.
>
> If you
kitus wrote:
> Where do you find that option please?
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kitus wrote:
> I confirm I can't find usb-power.tcz in the extensions section and
> attempting to download it from wget
> http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/pico/usb-power.tcz is not
> working either :(
It appears the sourceforge have removed all my files from the website
again. I'll
kitus wrote:
> I'm at a loss. Downgrading pCP is not an issue for me. I could do that
> and check if I get that extension. Then I can upgrade the system and
> keep my fingers crossed. But my issue now is that after reading the
> GitHub thread a couple of times, I really don't get the full
I'm at a loss. Downgrading pCP is not an issue for me. I could do that
and check if I get that extension. Then I can upgrade the system and
keep my fingers crossed. But my issue now is that after reading the
GitHub thread a couple of times, I really don't get the full picture of
what needs to be
kitus wrote:
> Do you have Squeezelite and LMS deployed on a vanilla Raspian OS?I have both
> Raspbian and pCP on different SD cards. I wonder if you
could install an older pCP which does have usb-power in the repo,
install it then update to the latest pCP.
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slartibartfast wrote:
> With Raspbian I can just copy the udev rule into the correct folder but
> that isn't possible on pCP unfortunately.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Do you have Squeezelite and LMS deployed on a vanilla Raspian OS?
kitus wrote:
> I confirm I can't find usb-power.tcz in the extensions section and
> attempting to download it from wget
> http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/pico/usb-power.tcz is not
> working either :(With Raspbian I can just copy the udev rule into the correct
> folder but
that isn't
slartibartfast wrote:
> The gotcha for me with that udev rule was that the rule didn't work
> after a restart unless the usb was removed and reinserted. That is why I
> needed to add the two uhubctl commands to user commands at start up. A
> lot of the thread on GitHub is taken up with me
Greg Erskine wrote:
> I don't think so?
>
> If someone finds it let me know. The original source has stopped being
> available.
>
> I'm not the sharpest tool in the box, but I have not found any of these
> udev solutions to work 100%, there was always a gotcha.
>
> @others playing with udev
kitus wrote:
> usb-power is not available as an extension that one can install. I
> assume it is now part of the core OS.
> The udev rule simply monitors the USB port to detect that a certain usb
> device (the DAC) becomes available, right? I see in the GitHub issue
> that one of the developers
Greg Erskine wrote:
> I don't think so?
>
> A tip, do a [Full Update] squeezelite to "Squeezelite v1.9.9-1414-pCP".
> You should get a more robust init.d squeezelite script. I recommend
> using the force option.
Where do you find that option please?
kitus wrote:
> usb-power is not available as an extension that one can install. I
> assume it is now part of the core OS.
I don't think so?
If someone finds it let me know. The original source has stopped being
available.
I'm not the sharpest tool in the box, but I have not found any of
slartibartfast wrote:
> Those commands only toggle the usb port off and on at start up to make
> sure the udev rule takes effect. So you still need the udev rule but I
> have a feeling
> usb-power.tcz
> might have been added to the pCP repository so check there first. You
> will need to edit
kitus wrote:
> Thanks! I had already done so. I have tested these commands from the CLI
> and they work just fine. I'm able to power on and off the corresponding
> USB port, and after a while the DAC either goes into standby or gets out
> of it.
>
> Now, after adding these commands on pCP UI,
slartibartfast wrote:
> The two commands go in the user commands like you thought but install
> uhubctl first.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Thanks! I had already done so. I have tested these commands from the CLI
and they work just fine. I'm able to power on and off the
kitus wrote:
> understood. I'm trying to figure out the physical port using different
> linux commands, and so far I did not succeed.
>
> May I ask you where is it that one needs to type those commands? is it
> in the "User Commands" section of pCP?
>
> thanksThe two commands go in the user
kitus wrote:
> understood. I'm trying to figure out the physical port using different
> linux commands, and so far I did not succeed.
>
> May I ask you where is it that one needs to type those commands? is it
> in the "User Commands" section of pCP?
>
> thanksI have forgotten how I did this
slartibartfast wrote:
> I think lsusb from a command prompt tells you which ports devices are
> on. My commands work on a Pi3B, other Pis could be different. Strangely
> I didn't need those commands on Raspbian, only for pCP
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
understood. I'm trying to
kitus wrote:
> All right, I see I have accidentally triggered some activity here :)
>
> I'm going to try and answer the few questions I seem to have picked up.
>
> 1. What do I do when I go out go fetch a bottle of milk?
>
> I go to LMS and stop the active Tidal stream.
>
> 2. What I would
kitus wrote:
> @slartibartfast, where did you put this commands?
>
> >
Code:
> > I added
> user command 1 uhubctl -l 1-1 -p 4 -a 0
> user command 2 uhubctl -l 1-1 -p 4 -a 1
> which toggles the power to USB port 4. This works without any added time
delay so I
Man in a van wrote:
>
> This is a Radio Paradise stream, I shut down the raspberry pi with the
> sudo command.
>
> The usb icon on the dac flashes for one minute and then goes into
> standby.
>
Yes, this is expected. When the DAC senses that no signal is being
input, it will go into
slartibartfast wrote:
> I thought I had just read a post by you saying that, must have been a
> different thread as I can't find it now [emoji1787].
> For my E30 I used my udev rule on both pCP and Raspbian. They both
> worked but in a different way. On pCP the DAC would go into standby
> after
All right, I see I have accidentally triggered some activity here :)
I'm going to try and answer the few questions I seem to have picked up.
1. What do I do when I go out go fetch a bottle of milk?
I go to LMS and stop the active Tidal stream.
2. What I would expect would happen?
I would
Man in a van wrote:
> Porcupine tea, shirley shume mishtake:)
>
> ronnie
39345
sorry all, couldn't resist...back to our regularly scheduled
discussion...
Jim
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|Filename: pptea.jpg
Code:
pi@3bplus:~ $ sudo nano /etc/systemd/system/squeezelite.service
pi@3bplus:~ $ sudo systemctl daemon-reload
sudo systemctl enable squeezelite.service
sudo systemctl start squeezelite.service
sudo systemctl status squeezelite.service
Created symlink
Redrum wrote:
> I never thought of it that way, that it had a name, I always though
> Occam's Razor was just a Porcupine Tree song. :)
>
> Jim
Porcupine tea, shirley shume mishtake:)
ronnie
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>
> It's Jim's (redrum) Occam razor theory :)
>
I never thought of it that way, that it had a name, I always though
Occam's Razor was just a Porcupine Tree song. :)
Jim
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Man in a van wrote:
> I can't remember slarti :(:rolleyes:
>
> What I'm going to prepose, is a test with RPI OS Bullseye Lite, a basic
> LMS and Squeezelite to dertermine if the standby function works.
>
> I'm just now making an image to send to kitus (if he (gender
> neutral)wants to
slartibartfast wrote:
> Ronnie I thought you said that your DAC doesn't go into standby unless
> you selected a different input.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
I can't remember slarti :(:rolleyes:
What I'm going to prepose, is a test with RPI OS Bullseye Lite, a basic
LMS and
Man in a van wrote:
> @ kitus
>
> I don't think the output setting is related (at the moment, anyway) to
> the dac problem.
>
> Please describe how the stanby function does not work.
>
> How do you ensure that the standby function in enabled, music is playing
> and you want to go and get a
kitus wrote:
> > slartibartfast wrote:
> >
> >
> > FFS!! really? that's just awesome! so, help me understand this:
> > > > > > > >
> - When your system is idle, your DAC goes into standby state
> - Once it is in standby, when you open LMS and start playing a
> > song, your DAC
@ kitus
I don't think the output setting is related (at the moment, anyway) to
the dac problem.
Please describe how the stanby function does not work.
How do you ensure that the standby function in enabled, music is playing
and you want to go and get a bottle of milk from the corner shop;
slartibartfast wrote:
> > kitus wrote:
> > The pop was caused by my own amateurish attempts to get the DAC to go
> > into standby described early in that thread. The method described there
> > solved that issue. The github thread is a little hard to follow mainly
> > because of my confusion
kitus wrote:
> > slartibartfast wrote:
> > If your pCP doesn't allow your Topping DAC to go into standby I am
> > guessing you didn't investigate the solution discussed here
> > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1064852
> >
> > Hi, thanks for your answer. I did investigate that
slartibartfast wrote:
> If your pCP doesn't allow your Topping DAC to go into standby I am
> guessing you didn't investigate the solution discussed here
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1064852
>
> Hi, thanks for your answer. I did investigate that issue but unless I'm
>
kitus wrote:
> Hi Man in a van! long time no see!
>
> Sure! here you go!
> 3934139342
>
> Note that I'm using "front" because of what I found 'here'
>
Man in a van wrote:
> Would you please be so kind as to post your dac settings from the pCP
> Squeezelite tab ?:)
>
>
Hi Man in a van! long time no see!
Sure! here you go!
3934139342
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kitus wrote:
> I just started with a clean pCP and LMS install. Added -C 10, just to
> allow a bit more idle time. My DAC wont go into standby. It looks like
> pCP will keep the interface up and that results in my DAC not letting go
> of the channel, and always remaining on. Back to square one
chrissy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I do what you want to all the time on different usb dacs, for example
> questyle cma400, cma twelve and Steinberg Dac. I alway turn off the dac
> and when I turn it on, I'm able to play music. Have you tried the -C 1
> option on squeezelite. Maybe there is something
Hi,
I do what you want to all the time on different usb dacs, for example
questyle cma400, cma twelve and Steinberg Dac. I alway turn off the dac
and when I turn it on, I'm able to play music. Have you tried the -C 1
option on squeezelite. Maybe there is something special about your dac
or
I read the OP yesterday and decided to keep quiet as to not be a
distraction. Something I should do more often.
I use a pi3b+ with pcp as a server, but I have no squeeze lite devices.
But I had one thought, so I returned here today. Why not just start with
a fresh install of pcp on your 3b+,
tw99 wrote:
> Have a look at this thread for a possible setting that will help with
> the standby issues with PcP. Basically you need to choose the output
> device that has "front:" listed. Someone on this thread said that it
> fixed his problem with a Topping DAC
>
>
Have a look at this thread for a possible setting that will help with
the standby issues with PcP. Basically you need to choose the output
device that has "front:" listed.
kitus wrote:
> Thanks Sam! one quesiton: do you somehow relate to the issues I
> described? I will find a spare SD as suggested by RobbH, and give this a
> try! Are you on a premium subscription?That is one benefit of the Raspberry
> Pi. With a few SD cards you can try
many different
SamY wrote:
> I would suggest looking into the Max2Play distribution. Been using it
> for 6+ years. Check it out 'here' (https://www.max2play.com/en/).
Thanks Sam! one quesiton: do you somehow relate to the issues I
described? I will find a spare SD as suggested by RobbH, and give this a
try!
Greg Erskine wrote:
> @kitus
>
> Don't forget there are other audio distributions to try.
>
> Or, you can load squeezelite and LMS onto Raspberry Pi OS (or another
> version of Linux).
I didn't know about this! Will certainly give that a try!!
RobbH wrote:
> I do not know if I can help you, as I have no experience with your
> issues, so anything I say is mainly speculation. I have very little
> expertise; I'm just a user of LMS who likes to tiniker. There is a very
> good chance that everything I say will turn out to be wrong!
>
>
I would suggest looking into the Max2Play distribution. Been using it
for 6+ years. Check it out 'here' (https://www.max2play.com/en/).
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Don't forget there are other audio distributions to try.
Or, you can load squeezelite and LMS onto Raspberry Pi OS (other another
version of Linux).
Greg Erskine's Profile:
kitus wrote:
> I have started to consider to ditch my current setup and start anew
> with a vanilla pCP.
>
> Could somebody help me stabilise my system? Should I start anew?
>
> I thank you all in advance!
I do not know if I can help you, as I have no experience with your
issues, so
Hello,
I'm posting this message here hoping to find some guidance to stabilise
my setup a bit. I'm not running any particularly complex setup:
- Raspberry Pi 3B+
- 16GB generic SD card
- USB DAC
I'm on the latest version of pCP and LMS. One of my problems is
described 'here'
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