laments the lack of a Global Digital Currencies
Association to track reputations, provide accountability
procedures, establish dispute resolution processes, and
help get things sorted out. The last I heard, and this
statement was last week, the new GDCA will be launching
in a week's time
to fund account. Most of the scams are for funding
e-currency accounts.
The digital gold economy and e-currencies economy are new business
sectors. They need to evolve according to rules and ideas they were
created.
Only those who know how to protect themselves and understand how this
economy works
. See what the President
had to say about the future of digital currency and the world. Remember, you
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US President Bush has openned an e-gold account. See what the President
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At 09:00 PM 1/9/2003 +0100, marco wrote:
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Marco, do you know
and then if there's a massive
redemption they can just borrow the gold back.
Problem is, if there's a massive redemption, who's going to buy the
bonds? I say that any issuer of digital gold currency should be prepared
for a full-scale run on the bank, with 100% redemption of every gold bar
in reserve
Dear Matthew,
Cambist.net presently offers manual exchanges among
the major digital gold currencies. We are also
working on implementing our Cambist automated
exchange service, though the last I heard it was
going to be a while before we integrated the new
e-Bullion interface to our automated
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Why does GoldMoney claim they are the inventor of Digital Gold currency
when E-Gold has been around longer than them? They claim that if other
DGC's don't meet their standards then they will defend their property
rights.
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is posted on the NORFED site.
An audit is the highest standard that can be set for any currency and must
be set for all currencies if they are to enjoy long life without defrauding
the public. This holds true for digital currencies, too. As the Monetary
Architect who designed and developed 3PGold
Another escrow solution...? I don't think so.
Negative trend? Again, I don't think so! Most GoldNow transactions are
just fine, and well over 95% of all transactions are fault free, and
seamless.
The real issue is that there is a growing number of people who want to
deal anonymously with digital
Liberty is certainly true
of all money.
However, what gave you the idea that Liberty currency
isn't taxable? I believe the documentation is quite
bold face, on the web site and in the redemption center
kit, that the Liberty currency is not a tool for evading
taxes. You must acknowledge that you were
Global Digital Currency Association
There have been questions about the GDCA constitution, proposed
changes, etc. All those interested in shaping the GDCA
infrastructure, please join the following discussion list of the
GDCA to discuss further.
This list will be for members only in the future
Global Digital Currency Association (GDCA) -- Because reputation
counts
All current and former eCTA members invited to join.
Launch date - within 1-2 weeks.
Constitutional contract available upon request.
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Ragnar
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(We take you now to the Oval Office.)
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and get a gold price of (ack!)
$317.20; silver is at $4.46; platinum at $590;
palladium at $278. (And rhodium, on which nobody is
yet basing a digital currency, is $690. Well,
tantalum is also very expensive.)
No doubt, these figures are much more momentary because
of the volatility of the gold price
if both have the same weight and fineness of precious metal.
You are thus very wrong to suggest that the Liberty will not
be worth more than a Maple or an Eagle..possibly less. I
think that isn't how the market works.
The idea that coins are not suitable to be used as a reserve
for a digital currency
any evidence at all that OSGold had even a tiny amount of
gold for which its currency might be redeemed.
E-gold may in fact not be gold circulated electronically. It does
appear that it is an electronic warehouse receipt, or a digital
warehouse receipt currency. However, in spite of the vehement
Liberty Dollar Debuts Online!
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EVANSVILLE, INDIANA November 18, 2002 Capitalizing on the steady growth of
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As of today, you can fund your digital currencies accounts via Western
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Yodel Bank: Anonymous Digital Cash
By Anonymous Hero, Section New Releases
Posted on Mon Nov 11th, 2002 at 04:18:03 AM GMT
Thanks to developments in anonymous communication, such as Freenet and
the invisible irc project, anonymous digital
EGoldTalks.com just opened a new forum that is targeted to the Online
Digital Currency. Look there for some kind of help like security
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that it was the
tendency for governments to debase and devalue their coins
and currency that caused all those shortages and metal melting
manias.)
And the guys with digital internet gold (DIG) have it solved.
Yet another reason to believe in the success of our industry.
PayPal? PayPal sucks in comparison
DIGITAL GOLD CURRENCY (DGC) WORRY ABOUT INTEREST RATES?
SLOW BUSINESS BECAUSE OF DGC UNACCEPT CREDIT CARDS FOR GOOD AND SERVICE?
DGC WORRY ABOUT MERCHANT ACCOUNT CHARGES?
INSTANT PAYMENTS SYSTEM WILL DO WORK FOR DGC BEFORE DIRECT DEPOSIT TO
DGC'S BANK ACCOUNT AT NO COST.
- PAYMENT BY EMAIL
a user has finally figured out what 1mdc stands for
1 more digital currency
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resolve all things into itself, and turn itself
into all things' Samuel Butler
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that will convince users to make the transition from existing
digital currencies. What we have here is e-gold with a graphical
interface.
They strive to offer customers absolute privacy, yet failed to provide
this by identifying an account by the owner's e-mail address. What's more
traceable than this? No wonder
and with a continuing (of the just
ended rate of) incentive program, this will give e-gold users a joint
interest in the growth of e-gold, as opposed to just any payment system
whatsoever.
This is to say nothing against any other digital gold currency, but it is
interesting to note that the person who claims
.
Such a project is underway, but instead of using payments with external
value they are using a proof-of-work computational currency (hashcash),
wherein the sender must prove they undertook a minimal level of
CPU-intensive activity. See http://www.camram.org
I am others have examined the digital
for the first time two years ago next month
at the IRS II and your talk affectionately titled (by Charles Evans) What
I Did On My Summer Vacation.
Those two issues are the major barriers to entry into the gold
economy. Yes, E-Dinar had the right idea - hard currency plus digital
currency
e-gold is not in the same business as PrayPal. (indeed - they are
OPPOSITE businesses.)
PrayPal is part of the banking system of USDollars. e-gold relates
to money itself.
This fundamental difference is lost on the vast majority of people. To
most, PayPal is a digital currency
Hi:
The arguments about e-Gold and PayPal are all interesting. If you look at
PayPal, as a bank, then yes folks are right. However, if you look at both
e-Gold and PayPal as digital currency companies, then they are in the same
business.
The major strength that both offer is the ability
. We will wait to see what develops next year. Which
means another good chunk of change lost.
Onward to better things. At least my PhD dissertation is on target and
should be done by year end. It's all about a new method of doing global
business, and includes gold and digital currency
George
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Damn, a client just sent me a note about PayPal. Say what you want about
them, they may be winning the digital currency battle.
From their site...
We seek to become the global standard for online payments, offering our
service to users in 38 countries including the United States. We
George Matyjewicz wrote:
Hi:
Damn, a client just sent me a note about PayPal. Say what you want about
them, they may be winning the digital currency battle.
From their site...
We seek to become the global standard for online payments, offering our
list buster
service
they were and do not believe that any digital currency
especially post 911 will be able to maintain that claim. The tentacles of
governments are vast and far reaching now.
Special thanks for letting a frustrated old lady vent on this list!
Have a day filled with prosperity!
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provider you would like to use depending on the
gold or digital currency you use.
2) by selecting the Members list you can select an exchange provider
directly.
All members have undergone a rigid accreditation process to verify their
authenticity and bona fide status
The eCTA cannot guarantee
the state which is likely to
happen only with A LOT of money for government.
For minting digital gold currency (DGC) it is even worse. It is
illegal to use other than lawful currency for common trades. It is
also illegal for everyone except central bank to emit currency. I heard
it's even
for government.
The U.S. will catch up with the Czech Republic on this point. Congressmen
are already talking about it.
For minting digital gold currency (DGC) it is even worse. It is illegal
to use other than lawful currency for common trades. It is also illegal
for everyone except central bank to emit
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Please make offers in grams of e-gold or 1mdc grams.
Thanks,
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Guys,
Is there any PayPalecureency exchangers out there?
Gold Age does PayPal to e-currency exchanges.
http://www.gold-age.net
Fees range from 6-10%
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Regards,
Ragnar
CFO - http://www.gold-age.net
Liberty Impact!
Check out this free, hard
currency, there is
always an intermediary commission (both ways for fiat, and only
one way for DGC's). e-gold (via OmniPay) charges 4% to fund
your e-gold account. Gold-Age currently charges 3%. So, in
fact, exchange providers serve to decrease costs by making a
market in digital currencies
be able to buy a digital currency with a forged charge, then he could
have the money in his local back, anywhere in the world, within a day or
two. This makes it essential that those who take payment for these types of
currencies, be absolutely certain that the payment is good. The Post Office
to the market makers and it's an emotional bringdown.
Not to mention
the fact that it makes you guys look like a percentage of
malingering
scalpers :-)
When buying any currency, including fiat currency, there is
always an intermediary commission (both ways for fiat, and only
one way for DGC's). e-gold
we can provide 128 certs that
web browsers will accept as a known root ca.
http://cocoavillagepublishing.com/services/ssl_certificates/
We accept e-gold, and other digital gold currencies
so long as the are 'currency' as the book 'Money'
would describe :)
them and http://radomain.net 's interface
John Cleese, nor my favored
milieu. I am an entrepreneur and sometime visionary. I
mostly cause trouble, and sometimes get a thing started
which evolves into some means or resource for causing even
more trouble.
I like to think that I got Cambist.net started as a fiat
to and from digital exchange
had a busy time in establishing the Trust,
identifying Trustees and defining policies as to how the underlying assets
of E-Gold (Digital Gold) and USD is to be handled.
Essentially what this means to our customers is that all Gold and Dollars
are kept in Trust for and on behalf of each customer
We have launched a new software package to help digital currency users
manage their accounts. The software is a stand alone off-line
application. Simply download your account history CSV data from e-gold
and then load the data into Portfolio Manager. There is no need to ever
enter any of your
A new digital currency service provider is looking for qualified exchange
providers for In/out exchange to and from accounts.
This shall present a good opportunity and a new revenue stream as In/Out
ecchanges WILL MUST be done through you. In other words, an account with
us cannot be funded nor
. Holding digital currency (including
SR-AUG or SR-USD) is NOT *supposed* to have risk according to their
ADVERTISED User Agreement and backing structure (SR gold is 100% backed by
e-gold which is 100% real gold...sound familiar??) What would be a crime, in
my opinion, would be to compensate
,
especially when it bears importance to the digital currency
community. At this time, we are pursuing leads and people to
interview regarding SR.
Regards,
Ragnar
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. All digital currency held in the system is backed by gold and
controlled by this company.
Standard Transactions (BVI) Limited, (STBL) is the marketing and contract
holder of the group. Its purpose; establish customer accounts, set-up
regional offices, take deposits, and issue digital currency
in a job for all this time
is crumbling around you, and it won't take too many
complaints from e-gold users to get all the alphabet
agencies involved ...
Beware the new frontier of digital currency ;)
Jonathan
P.S. - This was not an attack on E-Gold, but instead
is just my opinion on these matters
From recent postings and various emails it seems many people persist in
misunderstanding the purpose and accountabilities of the eCurrency
Trade Association. Inc.
The assumption appears to be that because various gold and digital
currencies are shown on the web site this automatically means
Dear Claude,
In the long term, I hope that other cambios will recognize that
GoldMoney concept is one step ahead of the competition and will
join in supporting what we believe will be the leading digital gold
currency.
I'm baffled by this comment. Cambist.net is a GoldMoney cambio
money is worth
anything?.
Depending on what you use for money, those answers vary, if you are
using paper fiat currency that is built on and denotes debt obligations,
the answers are not really and yes. If you are using gold, silver and
PM's in general the answers are yes and no. And from
to expect the eCTA to be able to dictate to any Digital and
Gold Issuer how they should operate but the eCTA's Charter is limited to the
relationship between it's members and the Digital Gold Issuers.
Members use accept and trade in any Gold or Digital Currency on their own
cognizance. The eCTA
Please visit http://www.topgoldlist.com and register your business if you
are accepting any Digital Gold Currency as a payment mehtod.
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Planet Gold announces its new interactivity test project, taking
advantage of the power of the internet to bring interactive
news to the digital currency community.
In furtherance of this, Planet Gold may, from time to time,
allow an opportunity for the members
, Bryan Allerdice, who is a list member was
the security officer, so he may have some info.
I have moved on to other things, still in the digital currency world, but
with a system that works well.
George
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digital currency, there is none
better than EVOcash, based on my experience.
Now, if e-gold offered that type of service...
Cheers!
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Apply for your
, because what your system circulates is money. It is not
currency, using your terms. A paper printout of a Payment
Key would be currency, and thus tangible.
Since e-gold, e-Bullion, and Crowne Gold don't have such a
mechanism, to my knowledge, they aren't currencies. Thus,
my term Digital Internet
From: Jim Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Friends,
Well, Lew is at it again. Gary North writes:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north107.html
and leaves out any mention of digital gold.
I noticed that first thing this morning. Believe me, Jim, I have written
both Lew and Gary North
. Therefore, please shave
with Ockham's razor.
E-gold, Ltd., has a mechanism, a system, a deal by which it
holds gold. It holds gold so that its e-currency can be
gold, itself, circulated electronically.
It views the gold obligations it has to users as a liability.
I think that's a correct
are fully involved in the silver Liberty dollar, we
have a supply on hand of paper warehouse receipts for
the Liberty dollar, and we are very eager about the
soon-to-be-released eLiberty digital currency.
Remember our motto: if it is precious metal, we provide
exchange for it.
If you want to buy
From: Steven T. Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Liberty Dollar is an interesting concept. Why don't they accept
digital currencies especially e-gold for there goods?
Steve
They do accept e-gold (or at least they did). The last time I bought
Liberty currency I paid with e-gold.
Regards
July 1st, and will include a lot more goodies.
Stay tuned.
I look forward to it.
Thanks for doing your part. I think if you offer a currency as well as
a digital currency with some minimal exchange expenses. You will have a
great thing. Fiat money will then have a viable alternative in all
. There are third parties
involved, but they are there to enhance the stability of a
particular digital currency system. I believe these third
parties are needed to help preserve our bundle of sticks.
Do I own the gold? Do I own my car? I submit that I have more
bundle of rights in the gold in the e-gold
, packets can be routed over all kinds of parallel
lines, and by other tech. That doesn't mean that nobody
owns the elements of the network. It does mean that the
value of the network is enhanced by the number of nodes
on it.
With regard to dollar bills, you should never store currency
or anything
that the person they are spending their
hard earned gold or digital currency to is genuinely who they say they are
because it is authenticated. Are you on that list?
Or are you one of the heaps of B Class Listings increasing each day as more
accounts are added?
The International Currency Accounts
Patrick wrote:
If GoldMoney goes out of business, they must either give you your gold or
give you your proportional share of a liquidation sale, payable in fiat
currency I suppose.
If E-gold goes out of business, they must ... uh ... either give you your
gold or give you your proportional share
today is just a deposit currency like the
rest of them.
But in theory, GoldMoney could go the extra mile and create a system that
meets the claims of their patent so that each holding is a digital title to
a specific, known piece of gold in the vault. I mentioned in my article a
grid system using
I have posted two new articles on The Gold Economy.
1. Digital or Just Gold? - by Ken Griffith
Looks at the history of gold currency transactions and proposes a different
terminology for e-currencies.
http://www.goldeconomy.com/article.php?sid=187
2. Title, Claim Risk - by Ken Griffith
Allied Digital Currency is now offering wholesale prices for e-gold and
crowne gold. Please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if
you are interested in details.
Sincerely,
Jeffrey Knapton
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want to buy gold that they have the
choice between gold itself in the form of digital money and a
digital currency backed by gold, they say they want the real thing.
It is a matter of perception and important in the eyes of many...i.e.
mining companies who will be paying gold dividends
, the ICAR (International
Currency Account Registry), is available 24 hours a day 7 days a week for
your use.
If you are a also a Merchant who accepts gold and/or Digital currency, you
can also place paid advertisements on the site which is receiving volume
hits even after only 2 days! All
gold backed digital notes, the terms of
which are published in the respective user agreements. Both systems
would be in exactly the same predicament if they lost their DB... how
to honour their promise to pay?
Sidd:
I think that's an overly catastrophic scenario, kind of like talking about
what
the term backed should be used in
reference to digital gold currencies. There is some controversy surrounding
this issue. James Turk, the founder of GoldMoney says, I don't want to
sound pedantic on this point, but I think it is important to note that
GoldMoney is not a Gold Backed Currency
that the invention of digital gold
currency is distinctively different than a deposit currency because the
account holder is the title owner of the gold in the vault, then as long as
the other gold backed currencies do not make this claim, they cannot be in
violation of the Turk Patent.
nah, they could
-reports. The $35 is a subscription to all e-reports for a year
as well as allowing for priority access to any of our research data.
The current report can be bought as well for $5 on an e-currency basis
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price
adjustment
Hear ye, Hear ye!
Read all about it!
A new interview is published at
http://planetgold.com
http://planetgold.com
Read the inside scoop about the imminent launch of a new digital
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The International Currency Accounts Registry (ICAR) has been set up as a
public service.
It is free to use and available 24/7.
Are you about to spend to a gold or digital currency account?
Do you know for sure who really owns that account?
Do you know who you are spending your money to?
Who
Dear all,
Some of you on these lists may not be aware of yet another fine service
of Gold Barter Holdings.
As well as superior service and customer support for our digital currency
exchange business, http://cambist.net/ , we also offer privacy and other
consulting services.
Does your company
in
the main account, but not in the e-dinar sub-account
can be claimed as a backing for e-gold, but not e-dinar
account holders.
If you make a spend from e-dinar into e-gold you will
be making a digital transfer, but you will be leaving your
physical gold backing in the e-dinar account - until
by God, even
thieves. Like the poor, crooks will always be with us, I'm sure!
Seriously, all of us sometimes forget that the migration from present
money systems to digital currencies will take some time and will take
place in some (a few) grotesque forms, one of which is described in this
article
every mention of digital currency in the mainstream media
has sinister references to money laundering, tax evasion and drug
dealing, with much tongue-clucking over the fact that transactions can be
fast, easy and, in some cases, completely unmonitored by Big Brother.
Yet the same statists never
This topic may have been brought up before, but I'm new to the digital
currency scheme of things. I'm been using e-gold for just a short time
and it seems my account has been cleaned out by a spend made to an Anneli
gold without my doing so. There were no invalid logon attempts, so
Hello,
Allied Digital Currency would like to announce the availability of our
anonymous debit card. This first card can only be delivered within the
U.S. but we will have a global card very soon. For details go to
www.allieddigitalcurrency.com
Sincerely,
Jeffrey Knapton
President CEO
Allied
This topic may have been brought up before, but I'm new to the digital
currency scheme of things. I'm been using e-gold for just a short time
and it seems my account has been cleaned out by a spend made to an Anneli
gold without my doing so. There were no invalid logon attempts, so it
appears
Moments ago I snagged cybermoola.com on today's expiry drop.
It is a Yahoo listed domain under the category:
category: Transaction Clearing Digital Money
Looking at its description on Yahoo, it was some kinda teen oriented
digital cash (another .com blow-out no doubt), but in my experience
interviews. Thanks Ragnar!
Sensational! The best news source in the digital gold currency market!
Where else would we go to read interviews on all of the different types of
people involved in this industry?
Ian Green
http://two-cents-worth.com/?107242EG
www.107242.clicktwocents.com
e-gold estas monda
you with many options to fund your digital currency account or to
exchange between digital currencies.
Right now, we are offering a flat fee of 4% on all buy orders when buying
e-gold, OSGold, and e-bullion from the U.S., U.K., and Australia. If you
need rate information for other countries, please
of
the entire digital gold currency industry!
You would not want e-gold to be associated with floos or beans or paypal,
so why promote ANY currency that is set up by unknown persons and with
unknown backing and talk about them AS IF they were on a par with reputable
gold currencies?!
(Conflict
I thought I might respond to this.
It may indeed be true that e-gold and GoldMoney have credibility and
verification that other DGC's just don't have. Personally, I would not feel
comfortable putting my money into a currency that would not discolse the
how's or why's of their operation. I
is that a better and positive way to go? For whom? Another
way to go is to wait a few weeks and see whether the GDCA
(Global Digital Currency Association) is a better alternative or
not. If it is not, then, and only then, would going with the
eCTA be a better and positive way to go.
Further
money as well as digital/internet systems, I may have been
concerned with some of the messages posted here.
As the early adopters and market makers our public conversation will
effect the number of people that we can persuade to adopt e-gold as a
currency. E-Gold is much safer than national
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