[e-gold-list] Re: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Wednesday, December 3, 2003, at 11:12 PM, Sidd wrote: Here's an interesting observation: ... Thus, I have been MUCH better off keeping my money in a NZ bank at an interest rate of 6.5% than I would have been if I had kept it in gold. Interesting. You mentioned USD/AU and USD/NZD, but do you

[e-gold-list] Re: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-04 Thread James M. Ray
At 5:12 PM +1300 12/4/03, Sidd wrote: Here's an interesting observation: ... You Americans must be really pissed at how your currency is being destroyed! So far, it doesn't seem to be much of an issue. Most folks have probably forgotten the high inflation days of the '70s by now, so it's a

[e-gold-list] Re: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-04 Thread Sidd
Hello Patrick, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: Interesting. You mentioned USD/AU and USD/NZD, but do you have a bottom line figure on NZD/AU? I mean, how much has the price of gold in NZD dropped over the last two years? Actually, from the data I have, in the same time period I quoted before, it

[e-gold-list] Re: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, December 4, 2003, at 03:22 PM, Sidd wrote: Interesting. You mentioned USD/AU and USD/NZD, but do you have a bottom line figure on NZD/AU? I mean, how much has the price of gold in NZD dropped over the last two years? Actually, from the data I have, in the same time period I

[e-gold-list] Re: gold price...link to charts

2003-12-04 Thread J Frank
The charts you may be after could be found here... Just change the studies, I use the EMA's 9,18 with 50 as filter in the 5 and 10 minute intervals, along with RSI 14 and MACD 12;26;9. For a broader look at things you may want to adjust time scales for the historic data you are after Sidd. You

[e-gold-list] Re: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-03 Thread Sidd
Here's an interesting observation: In the last 2 years, most people have been excited about the rise in the gold price. On this day in 2001 the gold price was $275/ounce http://kitco.com/scripts/hist_charts/daily_graphs.cgi Today the gold price is $403/ounce.

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-24 Thread FileMatrix
Patrick, it is far more secure to have the PIK printed and carried in your wallet True, unless someone steals your wallet, or you loose it. ... That's not a problem. The guy who gets your wallet still cannot log in because he doesn't have your secret Login ID. That would be true if

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-24 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, November 24, 2003, at 05:02 AM, FileMatrix wrote: That's not a problem. The guy who gets your wallet still cannot log in because he doesn't have your secret Login ID. That would be true if the password could be longer. As it is now, there are about 100 millions combinations (users

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-24 Thread FileMatrix
Drew, and password combintaions... That is exactly my problem: the password. Is too short. PGP encryption at login with Pecunix? I'll look into that... Joke: A hot babe is a secretary at a firm. Her boss thinks to something to

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-24 Thread FileMatrix
Right! It would be nice for the system to also require the user ID (email address), and if there are too many failed log-ins (at least 10), the account could be locked for a day (or so). Damn, I just realized that's not possible because any idiot could lock any account by simply trying to

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-24 Thread Cambist.net
From: Patrick Chkoreff [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday, November 23, 2003, at 09:53 AM, Katz Global Media wrote: ... But why use tempest when there are dongles hanging out of the routers at the nocs for law enforcement to plug into? Yes but intercepting a message through a dongle

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-23 Thread FileMatrix
Sidd, This is a possibility, but of course that would be easy for a screen scraper to steal... I will look into this more. No need, I have a new idea (that works with images). Prepare to... bedazzled ;) I will make this like a whitepaper. If any of you FBI, NSA, CIA guys read this list, get

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-23 Thread jrw
displayed on a CRT monitor. So far, I've never heard this being possible on a TFT monitor. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- check out the Kuhn / Anderson paper - google search should locate it easily. Monitor buyers should not assume that so-called low-radiation monitors, or even LCD

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-23 Thread Katz Global Media
No monitor is safe. Tempest is a Transient Electromagnetic Pulse Emanation signal receiver which means it is not really being used to pick up monitor radiation (although possible) but rather your signal eminating from the motherboard/processor itself which gives much more data than just a

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Sunday, November 23, 2003, at 05:39 AM, FileMatrix wrote: it is far more secure to have the PIK printed and carried in your wallet True, unless someone steals your wallet, or you loose it. ... That's not a problem. The guy who gets your wallet still cannot log in because he doesn't have

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Sunday, November 23, 2003, at 09:53 AM, Katz Global Media wrote: ... But why use tempest when there are dongles hanging out of the routers at the nocs for law enforcement to plug into? Yes but intercepting a message through a dongle doesn't help if the message is encrypted. Tempest lets

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-23 Thread FileMatrix
check out the Kuhn / Anderson paper - google search should locate it easily. Monitor buyers should not assume that so-called low-radiation monitors, or even LCD screens, provide any Tempest protection; we found that some modern TFT-LCD laptop displays give clearer reception than many

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-22 Thread FileMatrix
Patrick, But the way Pecunix displays the PIKs makes it difficult if not impossible to copy and paste them. So maybe Pecunix could also display each PIK in pure text in a form somewhat like George suggests: 1-a 2-4 3-T 4-u 5-X 6-b 7-Q 8-N 9-e 10-j 11-Y 12-u 13-A 14-m 15-9 16-h Absolutely!

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-22 Thread Sidd
Dear George, FileMatrix wrote: But the way Pecunix displays the PIKs makes it difficult if not impossible to copy and paste them. So maybe Pecunix could also display each PIK in pure text in a form somewhat like George suggests: 1-a 2-4 3-T 4-u 5-X 6-b 7-Q 8-N 9-e 10-j 11-Y 12-u 13-A 14-m 15-9

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-21 Thread FileMatrix
James, Me either. Email is an insecure medium, I said a few weeks ago something about a service to check PGP signatures and at that time I also said about emails not having clickable URLs. If the currency operator informs the users about never including clickable URLs in the emails they send,

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-21 Thread FileMatrix
Sidd, I just created a Pecunix account. The system is great, it has a lot of features, and I was intrigued by the way the Turing number became unnecessary. The difficult part is the login. No way for a beginner to complete the registration and log-in process. Here are my suggestions: 1. Create

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-21 Thread Viking Coder
I just created a Pecunix account. The system is great ... No way for a beginner to complete the registration and log-in process. This seems to be the general consesus of Pecunix. I haven't had a chance to personally check it out though - hopefully this weekend. It seems kind of ironic that a

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Friday, November 21, 2003, at 10:44 AM, FileMatrix wrote: ... Here are my suggestions: ... Sidd: George makes some intriguing suggestions here. But just to focus on one small point for a moment, George mentioned that he would like the ability to copy and paste his PIKs into an encrypted

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Friday, November 21, 2003, at 12:24 PM, Viking Coder wrote: I just created a Pecunix account. The system is great ... No way for a beginner to complete the registration and log-in process. This seems to be the general consesus of Pecunix. I haven't had a chance to personally check it out

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-21 Thread Robert B.Z.
Sidd, Pecunix is just *too* good to be convenient for heavy users ;o) By the way, how about adding a routine that calls Open2Exchange to convert pecunix into e-gold? It would be a neat extension of the GoldCart Pecunix ... trio and you's get to collect fees three times (Merchants would just pass

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-21 Thread Sidd
Robert, JP, Robert B.Z. wrote: Pecunix is just *too* good to be convenient for heavy users ;o) That's why we have such excellent automation Robert. I guess I am a heavy user of Pecunix but I rarely log in to the web interface... It is all done automatically by my account system backend,

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article

2003-11-20 Thread Robert B.Z.
And the funny thing is that I said about 24 hours ago that something like that was exactly what was needed - of course I suggested e-gold instead of pecunix - but I will give this a try. Would be great if it worked with evocash, but I guess that might be a bit much to ask :o) Thanks Sidd. Cheers,

[e-gold-list] Re: gold four pillars

2003-11-06 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
For example, why not an e-currency backed by real estate? It could be better than gold. No, it could not. Gold has some properties that real estate would always lack. First, gold is fungible. Which means it is the same if you take an ounce or a gram. Real estate is very different.

[e-gold-list] Re: gold four pillars

2003-11-06 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Danny, As far as I can see the properties that real estate lacks, are now created by the modern communication systems. Like...density? Gold is one of the most dense elements, so it is easier and cheaper to store. It is more compact and therefore portable. Land suddently has this property?

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Age policy

2003-10-30 Thread Mike Poulos
On Oct 30, 2003, at 3:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From 78 people who voted on the poll, only 12 considered Gold Age to be correct and trustful, 43 said Gold Age steals the money when the amount is higher than $1000, 14 said they GA steals the money if the amount is higher to $2000, and 9

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Age policy THIS IS JUST TROLLING!

2003-10-30 Thread Graham Kelly
Guys, Ragnar has literally 10,000 (or more) happy customers. We all know this. Could it be that Patrik is just TROLLING? Get a life, Patrik. PLEASE. Graham Kelly CEO On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:17:05 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Motto: You vouch for me, I vouch for you, and we both together

[e-gold-list] Re: gold on paper

2003-10-28 Thread jpm
You are certainly a strange fish Robert, you say some incredibly amazingly bizarre things, and then you say some incredibly subtly correct things, and from time to time you give up some astonishingly useful knwoledge! I've always thought this. Sometimes you come off as a complete crackpot and

[e-gold-list] RE: gold on paper

2003-10-28 Thread Arik Schenkler
Shalom, Jim Davidson wrote: I would say the shares should represent an ownership interest in the income potential of the underlying company. Not exactly. I would say that a share represents an ownership interest in the company assets, earnings and management. Although there are different

[e-gold-list] Re: gold on paper

2003-10-28 Thread zenbiker
The second item of concern for me was that because some people equate TGC shares with e-gold there is an inherent potential of perceived inflationary tendencies. But they do so mistakenly; even in the context of private exchanges I am not sure how such inflation is possible (see below.) Imagine

[e-gold-list] RE: gold on paper

2003-10-28 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Arik, Shalom. I would say the shares should represent an ownership interest in the income potential of the underlying company. Not exactly. I would say that a share represents an ownership interest in the company assets, earnings and management. Although there are different powers to shares

[e-gold-list] Re: gold on paper

2003-10-27 Thread Robert B.Z.
Hello Jim, I was wondering what kept you :o) In fact I was not speaking out against shares - or didn't mean to - at least initialy. I was trying to set the stage for what my latter post was meant to achieve namely warn about *possible* inflationary tendencies of e-gold derivatives, for lack of a

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Pages Makes News, and it not negative !

2003-09-29 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Mark, Your press release materials at http://www.urlwire.com/news/092503.html were very impressive. I enjoyed reading this essay. I'm somewhat doubtful about the necessity of daily reading of goldeconomy.com, but that's okay. The blurb on eCurrency Merchant Association was also nice to

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Pages Makes News, and it not negative !

2003-09-28 Thread zenbiker
That's great news Mark! Frank --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Nuggets and e-gold for Auction

2003-09-16 Thread Asiana Gold
Dear Jim, Jim Davidson wrote: I wonder if this post about nuggets for sale on eBay might have inspired Frank's post about the dangers of eBay/PayPal. What are the dangers of ebay? I realise paypal is owned by ebay but for the average person bidding on my gold nuggets ;) or placing an item for

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Nuggets and e-gold for Auction

2003-09-15 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Joel, I wonder if this post about nuggets for sale on eBay might have inspired Frank's post about the dangers of eBay/PayPal. On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 23:04 US/Central, Asiana Gold wrote: Australian Gold Nuggets for auction on ebay. It is certainly a disappointment to investors in

[e-gold-list] Re: gold age raided

2003-09-05 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Gordon, what an @$@ I am... May we quote you on that? (he asked sweetly;-) anyone know what the outcome is/was? Yes. Parker Bradley is alive and well and living in the Southwest. Ragnar Danneskjold is operating Gold Age with his associate Arthur (the Once and Future King?) out of New

[e-gold-list] Re: gold age raided

2003-09-04 Thread Katz Global Media
oops... didnt see the date on that... what an @$@ I am... anyone know what the outcome is/was? Gordon www.katzglobal.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard

[e-gold-list] Re: gold itself

2003-08-20 Thread FileMatrix
Dear Jim The 100% back by gold is in the banners of E-gold. It is their welcome message. Redemption should mean I think that should says it all! In the case of E-gold redemption = exchange because the value is the same in both cases (of course, I have no proof that the gold really covers 100%

[e-gold-list] Re: gold itself

2003-08-20 Thread SnowDog
Redemption should mean I think that should says it all! In the case of E-gold redemption = exchange because the value is the same in both cases (of course, I have no proof that the gold really covers 100% of the egold). I don't agree with this. Redemption is the process of removing gold

[e-gold-list] Re: gold itself

2003-08-20 Thread James M. Ray
SnowDog wrote: ... The redemption process is essential to the function of a system like e-gold. Without the ability to remove gold from the system, all confidence in the system would be lost, and no exchanges would be possible. ... Some of the problem might be that not everyone here was around

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Nuggets

2003-08-16 Thread Robert S.Z.
Hello Joel, The pic links to e-bay don't seem to work. But, you got nuggets for a total of 4.5g and no reserve, so I start the bidding with $45.00 for the lot of them ;o) You should also point out to people that even at above spot, they are unlikely to ever be able to buy small quanities of

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Currency Cryptography Part II

2003-08-14 Thread John Deere
Mr. Ray: I am one of the founders of LibertyForum.org, which is currently the largest web-based libertarian discussion site on the net. We are currently logging anywhere between 2,500 and 3,000 individual posts from members every day (these are actual posts, not just hits). I've been reading

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Price Jackpot hits 7 grams of gold

2003-08-01 Thread James M. Ray
GoldPrice wrote: ... http://goldprice.cn - Chinese Site Coming Soon! Awesome, Joel. (And VERY-smart!!!) JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Currency Cryptography Part II

2003-07-25 Thread James M. Ray
Sidd wrote: ... My oldest working e-gold account number is 108164, but unfortunately I have lost the login details for my earlier accounts. I had one account that I opened possibly a year before that and never funded, and a few more after that. I really wish I could recover them. If I gave you a

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Pages - Mark's post

2003-07-09 Thread PrivaGold
I think it is a riot that based on clueless and false assumptions from the thoughts and views of my competitors, that we have been removed from their list. Makes no sense. I guess it goes to show how brown Gold-Pages nose really is. PrivaGold www.privagold.com ** --- You are

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold/Dow ratio ready for another major expansion

2003-07-02 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear François, You might enjoy the Dow:Au ratio displayed at http://cambist.net/ Just look at the left hand column, near the top. The display updated continually. Regards, Jim --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Bulls' Big Gamble (Forbes.com)

2003-07-02 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Jim, http://www.forbes.com/2003/07/01/cz_bc_0701gold_print.html Thanks for the link. It says in part: Another reason to dump on the metal: the recent strengthening of the U.S. dollar and the lower than expected quarter-point cut in the federal funds rate last week. First, I have to ask:

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Bulls' Big Gamble (Forbes.com)

2003-07-02 Thread SnowDog
Yes, the Dallas Fed has on their site some preposterous ideas about imposing negative interest rates on the economy. But, the reality is that most of these are very impractical and even the Dallas Fed says these arrows aren't very straight. Who knows where they might fly. Jim, do you have

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Bulls' Big Gamble (Forbes.com)

2003-07-02 Thread Mark S. Ohberg
Jim Davidson wrote: Recently, a friend sent me a quote from Hemingway who pointed out that the last resorts of desperate politicians are inflating the currency and starting foreign wars. Guess where that leaves Bush? This leaves Bush as commander and chief of The DOLLAR WARS. care to gamble

[e-gold-list] Re: gold bullion coins

2003-07-01 Thread Mark S. Ohberg
Jim Davidson wrote: Dear Mark, US Eagle gold coins are 80% and 10% copper. Um, was that a typo? Maybe 90% gold and 10% copper? Yes, and I apologize, I like to throw out typo's to see who is, if anyone is reading closely , those who do, and point it out first generally off list, win a free

[e-gold-list] Re: gold bullion coins

2003-07-01 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Mark, I wasn't aware of the prize package for spotting items for correction in your messages. It has come to my attention that Federal Reserve Notes, in spite of the legend that they bear, are not legal tender. I reveal this amazing truth based on two clear items of evidence. First, in a

[e-gold-list] Re: gold bullion coins

2003-06-30 Thread jpm
Dear Mark, US Eagle gold coins are 80% and 10% copper. Um, was that a typo? Maybe 90% gold and 10% copper? Otherwise, what's the missing 10%? that's the fiat part, Jim! :) -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-24 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
True, but Pecunix also has a 2% above spot purchase cost, so you have to hold for 2 years before Pecunix will work out cheaper than the gold ETF. And a gold coin may have 8-10% markup, so you would have to wait 8 years. But DGCs are a good intermediary between the new ETF and gold in your

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-24 Thread Cambist.net
From: Danny Van den Berghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:48:02 +0300 To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC The goldcoin is a little different, because I will often be able to sell with an 8-10% markup too. So, that a big

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-23 Thread David Hillary
: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:26 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-23 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
Hello Danny, I think that many people are under the misapprehension that the storage component in a digital currency system is a significant cost. This is simply not the case. The storage costs are miniscule in comparison to other normal operating costs. For me as an e-gold user it doesn't

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-23 Thread Sidd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - - Original Message - From: Danny Van den Berghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] : For me as an e-gold user it doesn't matter what it costs e-gold to store the : gold, what matters to me is how much I have to pay for the storage, which : 1.2% annually.

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-23 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
: A DGC which would use this gold ETF as backing, would be able to offer much : lower fees. Danny, Pecunix charges ZERO storage fees, as does 1MDC... you can't go lower than that! True, but Pecunix also has a 2% above spot purchase cost, so you have to hold for 2 years before Pecunix

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-23 Thread Cambist.net
From: Danny Van den Berghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:01:48 +0300 To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC Pecunix charges ZERO storage fees, as does 1MDC... you can't go lower than that! True, but Pecunix also has a 2

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-22 Thread Robert S.Z.
Hello Danny, I don't think that we will come full circle or that the new ETF will replace Coupon currencies because a system that includes e-sugar, e-corn and e-whathaveyou will still need a base denominator to be quoted in and exchanged for. The only reason there is money to begin with is

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-22 Thread Robert S.Z.
And when it comes to e-sugar, e-rice, etc, the base denominator could simple be a basket of commodities. But that basket would still need a denominator or 'unit'. In essence you could say that the sugar portion of the basket is 10% of the basket and hence sugar costs 0.10 baskets. But then

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-22 Thread Sidd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - - Original Message - From: Danny Van den Berghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] : I don't mean the ETF will replace the paper currencies. : But somebody can build a DGC with the gold ETF as a backing, and thus avoid : the storage costs that normally

[e-gold-list] Re: gold backing is irrelevant

2003-06-14 Thread Robert S.Z.
Hello Jim, Thanks for your valued input. You are of course right that redemption or redeemabilty is the word that should be used in the same breath as the word backed. But before looking at some of the candidates on your list, I'd like to point out two other very important items are breadth of

[e-gold-list] Re: gold backing is irrelevant

2003-06-14 Thread Katz Global Media
Hi, there is another 1mdc type of company coming online soon that looks interesting. I know the site is up but not online to the public. They gave us $500 to play on the sytem and try it out a while back and it seems to work well. I think they will anonymize e-gold usage to some extent as

[e-gold-list] Re: gold giveaway madness

2003-03-28 Thread service
On behalf of the members of Gold Price I would like to thank http://1mdc.com for the gram of free gold! Feel free to confirm the addition of 1 gram of gold to the Jackpot for yourself: https://www.1mdc.com/cgi-bin/fastchart.cgi?in-80278-13c8eb08f5fcf23ae4a8fea0 deb2c0ad 9.151 1mdc grams or 8.6

[e-gold-list] Re: gold giveaway madness

2003-03-28 Thread jpm
Can we expect more updates soon at 1mdc/fastgrams JP? Why yes you can Joel ! :) However, we may not be able to give away so much gold in the future!! Four grams still to claim!!! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to

[e-gold-list] Re: gold giveaway madness

2003-03-28 Thread Andrew McMeikan
At the risk of not getting a lump, I must say I am not all that amazed. I probably would trust jpm more than whatever checking equifax did. I am amazed that so much gold is being given away, such enthusiasim! I truely wish I could afford to give as much away. I am also a little surprised that

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Age debit cards

2003-03-25 Thread jpm
interesting stuff... From a source you can trust: http://www.goldage.net/debitc.htm = Regards, Ragnar Vice Pres. - GDCA - http://www.gdcaonline.org CFO - Gold Age - http://www.gold-age.net editor - Liberty Impact - http://www.libertyimpact.com -- --- You are currently subscribed to

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Heading South - JPM

2003-03-22 Thread Ragnar
JPM, Here's an intriguing fact (You'll love this Jim Ray!) -- Other than Omnipay there is not one MM who has not at some point turned me down on an exchange! Not true. Gold Age never turned anyone down. = Regards, Ragnar Vice Pres. - GDCA - http://www.gdcaonline.org CFO - Gold Age -

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Heading South - JPM

2003-03-22 Thread jpm
JPM, Here's an intriguing fact (You'll love this Jim Ray!) -- Other than Omnipay there is not one MM who has not at some point turned me down on an exchange! Not true. Gold Age never turned anyone down. Sorry, I forgot about that Ragnar. On the two occasions you serviced ISL, you

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Heading South

2003-03-15 Thread jpm
Yes, but a fine community overall, and good things are happening. Take a look at: http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html (I have no idea why it's cranking, but I'll happily take credit for it!) I recommend you add graphing of those data over time. That would be great -- it's good business sense. I

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Heading South

2003-03-13 Thread James M. Ray
At 5:24 PM +0100 3/13/03, AnyGoldNow SSL wrote: Hi all. Sorry for the call the other day ... ... I'm struggling to understand it all myself...But I never can quite get this stuff! Maybe, as JP said, it's all in the charts. Or maybe it's somehow a weird reaction to:

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Heading South

2003-03-13 Thread jpm
At 5:24 PM +0100 3/13/03, AnyGoldNow SSL wrote: Hi all. Sorry for the call the other day ... ... I'm struggling to understand it all myself...But I never can quite get this stuff! Maybe, as JP said, it's all in the charts. oh well, at least its up a few dollars since last year

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Heading South

2003-03-13 Thread AnyGoldNow SSL
Look at the same graph this way : http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYMEX_GCJ3v=d12w=1t=ca=200 That big gap will have to be filled... Prices have now retraced 78% of the Dec. 2, Feb.5th (Intraday) Also, you definitely don't have the right Exchange Provider ! Yesterday, most exchange providers were

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Heading South

2003-03-13 Thread jpm
Look at the same graph this way : http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYMEX_GCJ3v=d12w=1t=ca=200 That big gap will have to be filled... Prices have now retraced 78% of the Dec. 2, Feb.5th (Intraday) Also, you definitely don't have the right Exchange Provider ! I'm not sure if you realize, my company

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Heading South

2003-03-13 Thread James M. Ray
At 10:57 AM +1100 3/14/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...much interesting analysis elided... Here's an intriguing fact (You'll love this Jim Ray!) -- Other than Omnipay there is not one MM who has not at some point turned me down on an exchange! JP, you are a card, and OmniPay *always* wants

[e-gold-list] Re: gold up sharply

2003-03-10 Thread AnyGoldNow SSL
Jim, Beware of not comparing apples with oranges : Most gold prices charts, comparisons, etc, are based on New York prices... Just wait a few more hours... Regards, Patrick, http://AnyGoldNow.com Any Gold, Any time, Anywhere Dear Friends, It looks like gold is going right back up to

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold down sharply

2003-03-09 Thread AnyGoldNow SSL
Robert, I don't quite see how that chart demonstrates a long term upward trend. If you have a look at the 6-year chart at www.u2networks.com/markets/ [scroll down after it loads] you'll notice that it could drop to as low as $326 per ounce and still be in a long-term upward trend. In order

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold down sharply

2003-03-09 Thread Robert S.Z.
Patrick, I don't quite see how that chart demonstrates a long term upward trend. Both log targets as well as the interim lows in intra-day movements suggest an upwards trend indicated by the gray line in the chart. In order for prices to reach the $326 level, they would have to break a

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold down sharply

2003-03-08 Thread Robert S.Z.
If you have a look at the 6-year chart at www.u2networks.com/markets/ [scroll down after it loads] you'll notice that it could drop to as low as $326 per ounce and still be in a long-term upward trend. If it does that, then it has to break trough the interim downward channel at $378 and make a new

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold down sharply

2003-03-07 Thread jpm
Hi all, As expected and forecasted on our web site in the last few days / weeks, Gold is heading South. that was steep! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold $12 US per gram!

2003-02-04 Thread Gordon H.
I will guess $390 by your date. I do think it will break $400 after the 23rd. But that is a guess. :-) Gordon H. www.katzglobal.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Remonetized?

2003-01-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 06:10 PM, Gimme Shelter wrote: ... I disagree entirely with the author of National Post article on the basis of Chairman Greenspan and Governor Bernanke’s statements that the goal for gold is $350 and it will be fixed at that price. That simply will not, and

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Credit Card

2002-10-23 Thread daniel lance herrick
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: Yes, but the reversal is the merchant's decision, not the purchaser's. What we're talking about instead is *repudiable* payments. Good word. So a repudiable payment is one that can be reversed by a purchaser's decision. Yes. If there is a

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold economy is stagnant (was SR (was Re: Maybethey're winning

2002-09-19 Thread Arik Schenkler
Michael shalom, You wrote: I can visualise, in about 2-3 years, there only being about 4-6 large exchange providers with rates in the .25 to 1% range to the public on under 500USD amounts and competing with each other on fractions of a cent. Well this is a reference to my questions about

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold economy is stagnant (was SR (was Re: Maybethey're winning

2002-09-19 Thread Arik Schenkler
Shalom, - George Wrote - How can somebody in Indonesia, China and India, with 41.5% of the population, and with average per capita income of USD $649, afford the high fees of doing business in the gold economy? The market is those 17 Million Americans and

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold economy is stagnant (was SR (was Re: Maybe they're winning

2002-09-18 Thread David Brooks
At 02:56 PM 9/18/2002 -0400, Kenneth C. Griffith wrote: Why do you say the gold economy seems to be falling apart? --- Which, IMHO, is the reason the gold economy is stagnant. George George, with respect, there is a significant difference between falling apart and stagnant. The

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold economy is stagnant (was SR (was Re:Maybe they're winning

2002-09-18 Thread jpm
Zyman, former CMO of Coca Cola stated it quite clearly at a meeting we were in. how bizarre, what were you doing with Sergio, George? -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold economy is stagnant (was SR (was Re:Maybe they're winning

2002-09-18 Thread Goldtoday
David Brooks wrote: At 02:56 PM 9/18/2002 -0400, Kenneth C. Griffith wrote: Why do you say the gold economy seems to be falling apart? Which, IMHO, is the reason the gold economy is stagnant. George The demise of osgold and SR have a lot to do with the current stunned

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold economy is stagnant (was SR (was Re: Maybe they're winning

2002-09-18 Thread George Matyjewicz
At 05:43 PM 9/18/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zyman, former CMO of Coca Cola stated it quite clearly at a meeting we were in. how bizarre, what were you doing with Sergio, George? He's a fellow Atlantan (when I'm there). We were at a conference together. Do you know him? BTW, he

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold economy is stagnant

2002-09-18 Thread Ian Green
How can they afford the high fees of the mainstream economy?! E-gold fees are tiny. If it costs a lot to use a credit card to get money into the system then that is really a cost of the mainstream, fiat money and banking system. It's the old other side of the stream analogy. Sure it's

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold economy is stagnant (was SR (was Re: Maybethey're winning

2002-09-18 Thread James M. Ray
George Matyjewicz wrote: At 02:56 PM 9/18/2002 -0400, Kenneth C. Griffith wrote: ... How can somebody in Indonesia, China and India, with 41.5% of the population, and with average per capita income of USD $649, afford the high fees of doing business in the gold economy? ???!!? As

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold and Law

2002-09-03 Thread George Matyjewicz
At 11:35 AM 9/3/2002 +0200, Lourens Human wrote: I would like to know if there was any group of people behind the decision of the United States (and other countries) to abolish the law that prevented citizens to hold raw gold. If so, can anyone direct me to the more information about this or any

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold and Law (fwd)

2002-09-03 Thread Mark Jeftovic
Hi: Try searching for Breton Woods agreement and go from there. Perhaps if the US Government decides to outlaw private gold ownership again it will do so under the banner of anti-terrorism... Report: Al Qaeda, Taliban Gold Shipped to Sudan http://tinyurl.com/19sn -mark -- Quality

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold and Law

2002-09-03 Thread Mark S. Ohberg
Lourens Human wrote: I would like to know if there was any group of people behind the decision of the United States (and other countries) to abolish the law that prevented citizens to hold raw gold. If so, can anyone direct me to the more information about this or any information about the

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