Re: [Elecraft] DX spot split

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 4:24 AM, wrote: > Egads.  All the riga-marole!  Turn on the sub and put it on his transmit > freq.  Tune the A which will be your transmit to where the other guys are > hollering at him.  I use a headset and track the calling mob with the A ear > and listen to when he's

[Elecraft] K3 Split

Snip(:-)) Egads. All the riga-marole! Turn on the sub and put it on his transmit freq. Tune the A which will be your transmit to where the other guys are hollering at him. I use a headset and track the calling mob with the A ear and listen to when he's transmitting with the B ear. Why

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:04:30 +1200, Mary Carll wrote: >Hi Kevin, > >Just thought I'd drop you a quick note from ZL. > >I'm a reader of the Elecraft reflector, and a very happy K3 owner - #2867. > >I always really enjoy reading your comments regarding your QTH - you >paint a wonderful picture of

[Elecraft] K3 RX / Aux Issue with TX

I have K3 #512, with 2nd rcvr. I have the latest release firmware. I have the aux antenna and rx antennas jacks connected together, and fed by switchable receive antennas. My transmit antenna is approximately 120' away, and perpendicular to, the closest receive antenna. While transmitting and

[Elecraft] DX spot split

Egads. All the riga-marole! Turn on the sub and put it on his transmit freq. Tune the A which will be your transmit to where the other guys are hollering at him. I use a headset and track the calling mob with the A ear and listen to when he's transmitting with the B ear. Why worry about "sp

[Elecraft] FW: Elecraft CW Net Announcement

Here here. I also enjoy reading Kevin's comments every week. Keep it up Kevin. 73 Barry VK2BJ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mary Carll Sent: 18 October 2009 04:05 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

Hi Kevin, Just thought I'd drop you a quick note from ZL. I'm a reader of the Elecraft reflector, and a very happy K3 owner - #2867. I always really enjoy reading your comments regarding your QTH - you paint a wonderful picture of nature and what is happening there. It sounds a beautiful place

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

>My problem with the BETA process is that it is >in no way intuitively obvious as to how to >install it. I have put this on the reflector >before and got pu-pawed, I have Windows >Vista. It is Pain in the A… to install the >neew betas. You CAN NOT click and download the >file. PERIOD. Y

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio blast issue still there with FW 3.44

Frank, Sounds like you've stumbled into a very rare combination of settings. Lyle guessed that this might occur, and he'll eliminate this possibility when he gets back from vacation. 73, Wayne, N6KR http://www.elecraft.com On Oct 17, 2009, at 5:58 PM, "Frank R. Oppedijk" wrote: > H

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split questions

Thanks Ian - Mike Iain MacDonnell - N6ML wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Mike wrote: > >> Is it possible to have A and B VFO's on different modes? (no sub) If so, >> what controls the B mode? >> > > "B SET" (hold the "1" button), then change mode. > > > >> How about having t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split questions

Thanks, Michael - Since I don't have the SUB RX, and B is always the xmit VFO, I'm not sure why B SET even works, except maybe for modes. I had the same scenario as you, and it took me longer to figure out! I dunno how the mode got set differently on B. The double tap is a good tip. Mike K2MK

[Elecraft] K3 Audio blast issue still there with FW 3.44

Hi, Today I again experienced an audio blast. A difference with the previous time was that the blast now lasted only 1 or 2 seconds and then went away. Previously, switching off the K3 was the only way to stop the blast. The TECH MD DSPINFO says 0032 for the main rx and 0002 for the sub rx. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split questions

Thanks, Guy - I'm not sure what you mean by off-band split. I was just wondering if there was a setting I didn't know about. I think you mean my first question. Pressing B SET I can set B to a different mode.Then when I go into split, the B mode blinks above the A mode, and the pointer to B bl

Re: [Elecraft] K3 12m problem

Hi Barry I just updated our clubs K3's and none of them have this problem. I even checked them into the dummyload. We have some early serial K3's and some fairly new ones. I would use a simple receiver like the Degen and a simple 3 turn loop of about 30mm. I would sniff around the K3 and

[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

Good Evening, Through a short break in the rain I can see the sun. The first sun to shine in a few days. Rain varies from a drizzle to quite heavy. Tonight and tomorrow are expected to be quite heavy once again. Yesterday it got heavy enough so I was having a hard time hearing CW under my

[Elecraft] K3 12m problem

I uploaded the latest beta release and found that there is a loud noise (like electric motor interference) when tuning at the SSB end of 12m. The noise stops when you stop tuning. I hadn't noticed the problem before so I regressed to the previous beta version but the noise is still there. H

Re: [Elecraft] Re： [K2] Re： has the k2 a futur e?

I put Lipos in my K2 years ago (photos are on my website), they are still going strong and hold a charge for years. But if I was going to do it now I would put 4 of the A123Systems M1 LiFePO4 cells in. 2.3AH and no danger of venting to flame. They can be charged from 14.6-14.8V and if desired a sma

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

Rich and all, I don't use Vista, but have heard on more than one occasion that signing onto Vista as "The Administrator" allows certain file manipulation that Vista security otherwise prevents. 73, Fred __ Elecraft mailing list Home

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split questions

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Mike wrote: > Is it possible to have A and B VFO's on different modes? (no sub) If so, > what controls the B mode? "B SET" (hold the "1" button), then change mode. > How about having the B VFO automagically go to the same band as A, when > entering split ? Don'

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split questions

Hi Mike: I have a SUB RX so it is possible that my comments below might not fully apply if you don't have a SUB RX. VFO A and B can be on separate modes. When you hold the A/B (1) button you'll see b SET on the top display. From there you can change modes, fiddle with filters, preamp, NR, etc

Re: [Elecraft] VFO Alocks up when engage NR

If you're up to 3.41, upgrade to 3.44. There was a fair amount of stuff reported and fixed in last pre-beta string. Some of the stuff fixed results in unpredictable weirdness. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, David M. Elliott wrote: > Interesting effect. While working 20 meter cw qrp contest, I

Re: [Elecraft] Clean 600hz signal, full dsp decoupling possible?

Hello Dick, I am not a DSP expert either, but a tracking filter keying an audio oscillator will do exactly what you want. In its simplest form a tracking filter is a phase locked loop, and ICs which can be used at audio for this purpose have been available since the 1960s and are inexpensive. A

[Elecraft] [K3] Strange 500 kHz signal

Folks, I've been monitoring 500 kHz using the Rx Antenna port with a home made loop. (Wayne suggested this in an earlier reflector email since the Rx Antenna port bypasses the bandpass filters.) Works fine. I can hear KSM and local liberty ships loud and clear. But ... There is a strang

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: UK Elecraft Net

Hi all, Hope to be there tomorow. Will be active as PE1NIL/J using K3 1849. 73, Maarten 2009/10/17 AD6XY > > Sorry - I have been roped in to JOTA this weekend. > > Mike > > > Ian Maude wrote: > > > > Just a reminder about tomorrow morning. I hope to see you there :) > > 73 Ian > > > > ---

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Help on sending RTTY (or PSK) using Utility

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Robin Diane Goldstein wrote: > hi... a real newbie question... i'm trying to figure out how to send > RTTY (or PSK) using the latest windows version of the K3 utility. > i've got a laptop running Win XP connected to my K3 (with the latest > beta firmware) and if i

[Elecraft] re VFO A lockup on NR

Sorry guys. This is apparently normal. Only locks while NR setting is being displayed (same with NTCH). 73 de W6BK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm

[Elecraft] VFO Alocks up when engage NR

Interesting effect. While working 20 meter cw qrp contest, I noticed that when I turn on NR (any setting), VFO A locks up. The lock symbol does not come on. 1740, 3.41. Anyone else notice this? 73 de W6BK __ Elecraft mailing list

[Elecraft] K2 DSP not muting, Speaker pops

Dear all, When I power on my K2 with DSP for the first time I 've a terrible noise coming out of my loudspeaker. I did some investigation and the reason is that the DSP is not muting the loudspeaker quick enough. I noticed that The led on the DSP filter is on for 2-3 seconds, the manual says:

[Elecraft] Clean 600hz signal, full dsp decoupling possible?

Hello forum friends, Not being an expert in the world of DSP, but being an experienced CW operator i often asked myself this question: Why is there no full decoupling between the received signal and the tone in the headset or speaker? In other words is it possible that the dsp discrimiates enough

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split questions

No, you're not the only one. Some people use off-band split, so auto conformance of TX band to RX would break that. Since a double press of A>B brings B on band very quickly, it does not appeal to me as a great step saver. The logging programs set the split explicity by writing the logger-comput

[Elecraft] K2 #5618 S-Meter alignment with XG2

Dear all, I'm running my K2 already for 2 years and it is a marvelous machine. During the last field day I had some concerns regarding the sensitivity and the S-Meter so I decided to order and build the XG2. I started with the S-Meter alignment on 40M. This works without any problem! I can

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Help on sending RTTY (or PSK) using Utility

hi... a real newbie question... i'm trying to figure out how to send RTTY (or PSK) using the latest windows version of the K3 utility. i've got a laptop running Win XP connected to my K3 (with the latest beta firmware) and if i turn on the decode function i can see text scrolling in the Termina

[Elecraft] 144mhz transverter - 2

To answer a few questions on this project. I'm building "The Suffolk 144mhz Transverter" by Sam Jewell G4DDK. It is in "The VHF/UHF DX Book" from RSGB. The PCB's are available from along with documentation. The PA will use a Mitsubishi RA60H1317M it is a 60 watt ampli

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: UK Elecraft Net

Sorry - I have been roped in to JOTA this weekend. Mike Ian Maude wrote: > > Just a reminder about tomorrow morning. I hope to see you there :) > 73 Ian > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Ian Maude > Date: 2009/10/11 > Subject: UK Elecraft Net > To: Elecraft List > > > H

[Elecraft] Fwd: UK Elecraft Net

Just a reminder about tomorrow morning. I hope to see you there :) 73 Ian -- Forwarded message -- From: Ian Maude Date: 2009/10/11 Subject: UK Elecraft Net To: Elecraft List Hi all,Conditions have improved again in the UK on 80m so we are going to restart the weekly SSB Elecra

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split questions

Am I the only person who got this? Mike wrote: > Is it possible to have A and B VFO's on different modes? (no sub) If so, > what controls the B mode? > > How about having the B VFO automagically go to the same band as A, when > entering split ? > > Thanks, > Mike NF4L > _

Re: [Elecraft] 144mhz transverter

RC, I assume this is a homebrew transceiver or some other non-Elecraft kit. If so, does it have a single 28 MHz port, or does it have connections for split TX and RX. If it is a single 28 MHz port, then you can connect it to the 10 watt K3 output and use an attenuator that is only in-line dur

Re: [Elecraft] K2 Alignment and Test, Part II Question

Ken, That is not normal - but you may not be able to discern the peak if you are using band noise for the alignment. Check the orientation of D1 and D2, D3 and D4 in the T/R switch. Check the soldering for the above components as well as R38. If you do not find anything revealing, check the res

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware releases

A ham on the Yahoo K3 Group stated that his new K3 came with 3.27. 73, Mike K2MK Ralph Parker Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:28:34 -0700 >It would be nice if all the stable items in these betas were incorporated >into a regular release so those of us not interested in being beta testers >could catch up t

Re: [Elecraft] 144mhz transverter

This is not strictly true. If you can lose the 10W in an attenuator you can use the K3 just like any other radio to drive the transverter. But I agree the best thing to use is a KXV3A. This gives you the connections you need. One thing you will not have is the control provided by the Elecraft auxb

[Elecraft] K3 Firmware releases

>It would be nice if all the stable items in these betas were incorporated >into a regular release so those of us not interested in being beta testers >could catch up to some degree. I agree, Lee. One could ask "What firmware is included in a current 'factory assembled' K3?". VE7XF _

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Dirty trick, down loading Firmware in Vista

Or you could just open any explorer window, like "Computer", and then enter that URL in the bar at the top. Once you have it, you can drag the little folder symbol next to the URL into "Favorite Links" in the side-bar, so all you have to do next time is click ... ~Iain / N6ML On Sat, Oct 17,

[Elecraft] [K3] Dirty trick, down loading Firmware in Vista

Hello All, If you are have trouble in Vista down loading on the web, try this trick. It worked for me. Drop the link below in the "Start Search" box. { Click window Round Icon on lower left. Click in Start search. } ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/firmware/beta/ Beta firmware appears, copy and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

I dont understand why I can choose to upgrade to the regular firmware version with a built in ftp engine and for beta's I have to find the firmware myself. Using ftp from a browser is not really working. Why not just an option in the utility? I dont have problems with any of the betas. (Runnin

Re: [Elecraft] 144mhz transverter

You will need the KXV3 (or KXV3A) transverter interface. It's a plug in board that is easy to install, see the download version of the manual for it. 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 --- I am in the process of building a 144 mhz transverter for use with my K3/10. I'll use a 116 mhz "LO" and

[Elecraft] K2 Alignment and Test, Part II Question

Hello all, Page 6440-Meter Band Pass Alignment.. I can get get good peak with L1 but rotating L2 thru it's complete range yields no peak or dip at all. Is this normal? L1 and L2 are mirror images as far as surrounding parts go. Thanks, Ken, W2GIW __

[Elecraft] 144mhz transverter

I am in the process of building a 144 mhz transverter for use with my K3/10. I'll use a 116 mhz "LO" and the 28mhz "IF" of the K3 for this purpose. Do I need to obtain an upgrade circuit PCB's from Elecraft? My K3/10 does not have any additional options. Thanks you help is appreciated RC kc5wa __

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

I have been using Windows 7 (both beta and Release Candidate) for a few months and it works fine. If there is a difficult way of doing something, I usually find it! I have done several beta downloads. Put the FTP site in your "Bookmarks" (I use Firefox). I use the default downloa

Re: [Elecraft] Beta Firmware

Some words for inusual problem... If your K3 work fine why upgrade ??? Don't upgrade and solve your problem !!! P.S. For the beta tester: excellent job, thank you for your interest, very very appreciated ! 73 de Luigi,ik8ozz -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We ar

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

The point I was trying to emphasize was that as much as I know about computers that I find it a PITA to download the beta, so I can imagine how hard it is for the plain old "computer user". It is SO easy to do the regular updates with the K3Utility, but I haven’t been able (needed) to use it i

[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

I agree that downloading a beta version can a little confusing for people like me who do it very infrequently. Sometimes the littlest thing can be frustrating. For example, the following instruction from the K3 website: 9. Click "download all new firmware." could cause confusion for some u

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

Time for me to get off this thread. It's becoming too long (In my opinion). 73, Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. 2 W2's on order 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

Regarding beta releases ... if you're concerned about new bugs or problems, just wait a week or two following the initial announcement and monitor the reflector. If there's a bug, you'll hear about it. If not, go ahead and download. Regarding Vista -- I have no problems whatever downloading t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

> > My conclusion is that the "stability" of the K3 firmware is a relative > term. In anticipation of further improvements, it will be a long time > before the firmware is "finished" and thus "stable" by that > definition. > > 73, > Don W3FPR This makes wonder if new K3's are shipped with the l

Re: [Elecraft] K3 8 pole filter offsets

Hello I found an offset of 0.05 KHz with the 400Hz filter. Laurent -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-8-pole-filter-offsets-tp3840486p3841209.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ El

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:26:16 -0700 (PDT), Rich wrote: > >My PC with XP died at least two years ago and this is what I got. So is it >going to work with Windows 7? Or be an even worse mess. > [snip] Beta release users are saying it may be the best OS MS ever wrote. Most of the people saying this

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

Rich The link is: ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/firmware/beta/ It works just fine in Firefox, no idea why it doesn't work for you. There is nothing wrong with that site. 73 Dave, G4AON I can see many other web pages with ZIP files that I can click on and download but not on Elec

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

Yes a "single click" download might be nice, but I use basically Dave's approach with with I.E. and both Xp and Vista except that I don't have Winzip on the Vista machine (the built in unzip utility steps in automatically). No problem here with either OS. The Elecraft web site also has clear st

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

My PC with XP died at least two years ago and this is what I got. So is it going to work with Windows 7? Or be an even worse mess. Shouldnt the web page be written so that it is windows Vista compatable? Shouldnt the web page be written so that it is Windows 7 Ccompatable? Shouldnt the webpage

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:46:08 -0700 (PDT), Rich wrote: > >My problem with the BETA process is that it is in no way intuitively obvious >as to how to install it. I have put this on the reflector before and got >pu-pawed, > >I have Windows Vista. It is Pain in the A… to install the new betas. Y

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

I download the zip file from the Elecraft web site using the web browser Firefox and save it in a beta folder. I have pretty much all the beta firmware there in the original zip format. Then I remove the 8 or so files from the zipped one with Winzip (I know Windows will now extract those files but

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:30:55 -0400, Lee Trout wrote: >Thanks for your response Dave and Don, but I do not agree. I see too many >complaints of one sort or another on the reflector about problems with beta >releases. I am one of the beta testers. When I read the complaints regarding new betas I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

My problem with the BETA process is that it is in no way intuitively obvious as to how to install it. I have put this on the reflector before and got pu-pawed, I have Windows Vista. It is Pain in the A… to install the new betas. You CAN NOT click and download the file. PERIOD. You MUST foll

Re: [Elecraft] K3 8 pole filter offsets

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:37:31 +0100, Dave G4AON wrote: >Since obtaining an 8 pole 250 Hz filter to compliment my 8 pole 400 Hz >filter, I have been puzzled as to why the 400 Hz filter appeared to have >more loss than the 250 Hz one (it should be the other way around). >Talking with another K3 owne

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

I just installed the new FW 3.44 and radio DID NOT FAIL,download was smooth and easy,LIKE ALL OTHERS,inmediately noticed NR works better than before as well as the NB,audio quality did not change at all,still remains from 50 to 4000Hz,will test the rest of the features reported to have improved,

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K-3 sub receiver question

I have been using the 2 receivers with the same antennas on all bands. In the last couple of days, I have used the 2 receivers extensively chasing the K4M gang. I have noticed more than a little difference in signal strength when using dual receivers. In fact, today on 40m it appears that t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

This gets to the point where someone wants new PRODUCTION code and features every couple of months. Consider that the FT-1000MP had exactly one release. The FT1000MP MkV had one release. Ad nauseum. Since there is NO precedent of any ham transceiver folding in frequent new major firmware featur

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

It just occurred to me that there are several perceptions of the word "stable" (actually lack of stability) that could be coming into play in this discussion. 1) It has all functions implemented -- Maybe one day, but not today - new stuff is added incrementally. 2) All "fixes" have been impleme

Re: [Elecraft] sub receiver question

G'day, A contrary opinion, yes it is noticeable, particularly when trying to work signals near the noise. I usually have to crack where the callers are going through and then toggle the sub-RX off to make sure I have good copy on the target. In some circumstances I still find that using REV

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

Lee said >>>It would be nice if all the stable items in these betas were incorporated into a regular release so those of us not interested in being beta testers could catch up to some degree. Lee, I have installed every K3 beta version and almost all of the pre-beta firmware. Your statement about

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

My two cents on this topic I have been testing all the FW beta versions since the very first one I installed at my K3/2192 and never have had any kind of problem with them,sometimes as Don said,I go back to the former one just to hear the difference but so far all the beta FW that has been relea

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

Lee, In my experience, there have been many beta releases that could have been named as a production release. My guess is that in the 'busy-ness' of the summer and autumn with vacations and all (Wayne and Lyle do need some R & R), none were selected. The creation of a formal production release

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

As one of the testers and a person with 40 years of software development experience, I would say this latest release is as close to "gold code" as I have seen. There is no real risk other than to reload the old code. By the time K3 code hits the beta list it is really pretty good. I would look at

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

I take a wait and see attitude and I update my firmware once every 6 months or so. My original firmware worked quite well and I was actually pleased with the radio's performance before upgrading anything. Of course, there are new features and enhancements in new releases, but they are not mandatory

[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

Thanks for your response Dave and Don, but I do not agree. I see too many complaints of one sort or another on the reflector about problems with beta releases. I don't like computers and use them minimally and thus have no interest in loading in a update to experiment with, then reverting back t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

Lee, No new code will likely be compiled to form a "new release level" - IMHO, that would be even more risky than creating a new beta release, and would itself require more testing than any new beta release. What has happened in the past, and will likely continue into the future, is that a bet

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

Even a "public beta" release has undergone a significant amount of real life field testing by around 80 testers and it's easy to revert back to an earlier version if you find a problem. The more recent releases have significant improvements in many areas, especially the noise reduction. There is n

[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware

I see it is being recommended for K3 owners to upgrade to the latest beta firmware. I have always waited for the regular releases. There has been a plethora of changes since the last regular release in early May. It would be nice if all the stable items in these betas were incorporated into a re

[Elecraft] K3 8 pole filter offsets

Since obtaining an 8 pole 250 Hz filter to compliment my 8 pole 400 Hz filter, I have been puzzled as to why the 400 Hz filter appeared to have more loss than the 250 Hz one (it should be the other way around). Talking with another K3 owner brought the possibility that the 400 Hz filter might need

Re: [Elecraft] K2 SSBCAPKT: 2.4kHz or 2.6kHz SSB bandwidth?

Ah but, under noisy band conditions the bandwidth of the listening receiver is most probably set to some value much less than 2.4 kHz. So I would question whether a wider filter in the transmitter does in fact result in improved intelligibility under these conditions. FWIW I find that a 2.1 kHz

[Elecraft] Re： [K2] Re： has the k2 a future?

Hello Leigh, It is nothing complicated.  I measured the size of battery mount of KBT2 and bought 3 retangular shape Li-po cells to fill up the mount. For charging circuity, I just used what Don W3FPR mentioned in his webpage.  Of course, the best way to charge the Li-Po cells is to use an intel