Re: [Emc-users] CNC on fedora 14

2011-05-16 Thread jros
I would like to add, that for testing purposes you can run EMC without RTAI using any kernel. Just compile it with --enable-simulator. Finding out the needed dependencies should be fairly easy in this case. In my experience everything works, even HAL, creating new hal modules, but interacting wit

Re: [Emc-users] Beating Grub2 into submission

2011-04-11 Thread jros
Hello, I was thinking to write something on isolcpus on the wiki. As I see that all the work has already been done wonderfully, I decided to include a reference to it at the Troubleshooting section http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TroubleShooting#The_isolcpus_Boot_parameter I think t

[Emc-users] Question about HAL.

2011-04-05 Thread jros
Hi!, If HAL kernel space (realtime) components are kernel modules. What are the user space components: Programs or Libraries?. Thanks, Javier -- Xperia(TM) PLAY It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming smartphone

Re: [Emc-users] multiple instances of emc?

2011-04-02 Thread jros
Hello :), I think that we need an entry related to this in the wiki. I would do it myself but I lack a full understanding of the subject. Your comments looks to me as a very plausible explanation of the HOWs and WHYs. I looked into this (google) a few weeks ago, as the subject came to the list

Re: [Emc-users] multiple instances of emc?

2011-03-30 Thread jros
Dave, Regarding your suggestion about Modbus TCP and Classiccladder -forgive my absolute ignorance abut this subject- is there a documente example on how to make two or more syste to work together?. I would like to read a bit about the subject, at least to figure out, how the whole think can be w

[Emc-users] Emc2 automake changes to get my own module compiled

2011-03-15 Thread jros
Hi, I've finally have success implementing a Virtual machine, with 3 axes and a given dynamics. I've modified hal_motenc.c to that end. I would like to rename that file so that is compatible with the emc2 distro. How/Where should I change the compilation toolchain to get automagically my hal_m

Re: [Emc-users] How to access the SERVO_PERIOD from a component?

2011-03-15 Thread jros
11 17:56, jros wrote: > > > I'm doing a component derivated from motenc that simulates a virtual > > machine. It would be nice If I could get the value of the SERVO PERIOD, > > If you are using comp, then you can use the variable fperiod. (which > is the perio

[Emc-users] How to access the SERVO_PERIOD from a component?

2011-03-14 Thread jros
Hi, I'm doing a component derivated from motenc that simulates a virtual machine. It would be nice If I could get the value of the SERVO PERIOD, As I need it to make the integral of the state. Thanks in advance, Javier --

Re: [Emc-users] DEBUG, rtapi_print_msg, dmesg

2011-03-14 Thread jros
Thank you, It works!, Javier On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 16:10 +, andy pugh wrote: > On 14 March 2011 15:56, jros wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I can not get mesages on dmesg using > > > > rtapi_print_msg(RTAPI_MSG_WARN... > > rtapi_print_msg(RTAPI_MSG_INFO.

[Emc-users] DEBUG, rtapi_print_msg, dmesg

2011-03-14 Thread jros
Hi, I can not get mesages on dmesg using rtapi_print_msg(RTAPI_MSG_WARN... rtapi_print_msg(RTAPI_MSG_INFO... only rtapi_print_msg(RTAPI_MSG_ERR... I've changed the debug level from 0 to 0x7FFF as indicated in emcglb.h. The verbosity of the output increases, but the messages I' intending

Re: [Emc-users] Encoders x 2

2011-02-17 Thread jros
Kim, On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 17:03 -0600, Kim Kirwan wrote: > Yes, this can be done and Stuart (for one) has done it. > > See the wiki "Combining Two Feedback Devices On One Axis" > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Combining_Two_Feedback_Devices_On_One_Axis > Certainly that looks lik

Re: [Emc-users] Complete victory over resolver!

2011-01-30 Thread jros
Congratulations, A really nice problem/solution to be kept long and safe in the archives of EMC-USERS!!! Javier On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 11:52 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > Igor Chudov wrote: > > Now, my servo motor with the attached resolver still out of the rotary > > table, I have a HYOOGE success!

Re: [Emc-users] Test Compiling EMC

2011-01-30 Thread jros
jeff, You can try $ which emc in order to know which emc you are running. Probably you are running the one that comes with the cd. You can try to run directly the emc in your emc-dev directory $ ~/emc-dev/whatever/emc This works for me (I don't set any special environment like you $

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky 4th axis motor rotor movement

2011-01-29 Thread jros
... > >> From this, I conclude that this is a feedback based issue, such as the > > resolver or resolver converter somehow being behind and ahead on reporting > > its position, which leads to uneven rate of speed. > > > > Any ideas? > > Sounds like classic quadrature error in the resolver. Are you

Re: [Emc-users] DIY BLDC Motors - FCM8201,2 and IRAMS

2011-01-27 Thread jros
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 18:15 +0100, joachim.franek wrote: > Am Dienstag 25 Januar 2011, um 18:17:00 schrieb Kirk Wallace: > > If you are getting motion oscillation, I suspect it is due to the > > feedback system and not the motor. Halscoping the command and feedback > > signals should help determine

Re: [Emc-users] DIY BLDC Motors - FCM8201,2 and IRAMS

2011-01-26 Thread jros
Thanks Kirk, ... > > Plus, I think that the logic should be implemented directly in the > > electronics driving directly the motor, as the compensation strategy > > should be fairly quick. Driving a variable intensity command from EMC > > will certainly limit the strategy to low rpm. > > I tend

Re: [Emc-users] DIY BLDC Motors - FCM8201,2 and IRAMS

2011-01-25 Thread jros
> First is the change in magnetic flux if you > turn the rotor by hand (without current). > You feel the cogging. Second you get torque ripple > if the rotating magnetic field induced by > the current does not move smooth. Read some > papers about magnetic design of motors. > Even a 3ph ac motor

Re: [Emc-users] DIY BLDC Motors - FCM8201,2 and IRAMS

2011-01-25 Thread jros
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 19:48 +0100, joachim.fra...@pibf.de wrote: > Am Dienstag 25 Januar 2011, um 14:44:05 schrieb jros: > > my setup (www.imac.unavarra.es/~cnc) > Nice web page and videos. I think about a 3d maschine. > BTW: does emc support a 3dconnexion 6dof mouse? > We ar

Re: [Emc-users] DIY BLDC Motors - FCM8201,2 and IRAMS

2011-01-25 Thread jros
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 16:13 +, andy pugh wrote: > On 25 January 2011 13:44, jros wrote: > > > I can see you've be seriously dealing with the internals of PMSM, and I > > would like to discuss a little bit about the subject,as I'm facing some > > problem

Re: [Emc-users] DIY BLDC Motors - FCM8201,2 and IRAMS

2011-01-25 Thread jros
Thanks Peter, > > Plus, I think that the logic should be implemented directly in the > > electronics driving directly the motor, as the compensation strategy > > should be fairly quick. Driving a variable intensity command from EMC > > will certainly limit the strategy to low rpm. > > > I dont t

Re: [Emc-users] DIY BLDC Motors - FCM8201,2 and IRAMS

2011-01-25 Thread jros
> I get some used PMSM from auctions. Replacing the > bearings gives them a second life. Keep the angle position > of the resolver on the rotor! So you can test it with > an old (with analog velocity input) 3 phase power supply. > Usually this motors run very smooth if the stator pack > is twist

Re: [Emc-users] FCM8201,2 and IRAMS

2011-01-21 Thread jros
This project sounds like lots of fun. I've ever wanted to play with this, it just happens that I don't have the needed skills. I would like to follow your design process, and to eventually try making the electronics by myself. Are you planning to maintain the discussion in this forum, or elsewhe

Re: [Emc-users] HAL Documentation: canonical encoder, linksp, linkps, newsig

2011-01-09 Thread jros
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 12:41 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > Kirk Wallace wrote: > > > > I'm not John, but from my study of encoder, it seems encoder is really a > > software interface and decoder, > The hal component encoder is a specific implementation of an encoder, > equivalent in function > to a gen

Re: [Emc-users] Merry Christmas

2010-12-24 Thread jros
Happy new year to everybody and specially to all those that keep this list going!. Javier -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their d

Re: [Emc-users] RTFM for rookie kinematics?

2010-12-16 Thread jros
Jack, There is .c file called genhexkins in which the kinematics of a hexapod (stewart platform is implemented). I think that hexapod is one of the examples. I remember I started from that example to configure my own hexaglide type hexapod. That file should be used as a template to start with.

Re: [Emc-users] MOTENC-100 and index-enable (WAS: How fast can EMCread an input pin)

2010-12-02 Thread jros
Thank you to your very nice answers. I'll give a try in some days to see if it works. But I'll have to update my distro before as I'm using ubuntu 6.06. with as much as old EMC2 :) . I wonder how difficult can be the transition having in mind that I have my own kinematic module (genhexkins.c).

[Emc-users] MOTENC-100 and index-enable (WAS: How fast can EMC read an input pin)

2010-12-02 Thread jros
Hello, I'm the owner of such card, as I read from the documentation, the internal encoder counter of the card will go to 0 in the next index pulse after index-enable. I suppose that if I activate EMC's option INDEX_ENABLE to true in the INI file, the I would get hat behavior. That looks nice,

Re: [Emc-users] FF0, FF1, FF2

2010-09-14 Thread jros
I would consider the BIAS parameter along the FF0 FF1 and FF2. Then all the the terms can be considered Feed Forward terms of the controller, and the part of the control they deal with is conceptually called "feed forward control". The feed forward capabilities implemented by those terms ca

Re: [Emc-users] Analog velocity servo: loop or loops?

2010-08-12 Thread jros
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 20:02 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > James Louis wrote: > > Hello everyone. I had this on the forum for a while: This question goes > > out to any "servo loop" experts out there in EMC2 world. > > I understand that EMC2 uses PID to form a control loop when using > > servomotors,

[Emc-users] Halscope's data grabbing precise time instant.

2010-07-22 Thread jros
Hi!, We are using Halscope to get data saved into a file while running our hexaglide, and using that file to do various things as for example identification or parameter estimation. To that end we need to know about the precise time instant in which the data is collected. For example let say that

Re: [Emc-users] compiling a new file

2008-06-03 Thread jros
Even if it is an academic exercise I think It is interesting to share. May be interesting to put a description of your setup some where in the wiki. I don't know if there is section devoted to kinematics, it could be proper place. Javier El mar, 03-06-2008 a las 16:05 -0500, Charles Brauer escr

Re: [Emc-users] adding and compiling a new file

2008-06-02 Thread jros
I think a different aproach is sudo comp --install your_kin.c from EMC 2.1.7 and above. It compiles and installs in place (I think) You can try, it works for us Javier El lun, 02-06-2008 a las 10:39 -0500, Charles Brauer escribió: > Hi all- I am trying to compile and build the dipod, so I

Re: [Emc-users] European EMC event & users

2008-05-11 Thread jros
If it is needed, I would not mind to host such a event at the Public University of Navarra (Spain). http://maps.google.es/maps?f=q&hl=es&geocode=&q=Zaandam&sll=40.396764,-3.713379&sspn=10.353023,17.270508&ie=UTF8&ll=42.798439,-1.635568&spn=0.009746,0.016866&t=h&z=16 We have some labs, so we can w

Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-22 Thread jros
Hello, I use to read the list to get more insight on different aspects related to EMC. Right now we are facing some problems related to PID tuning. And when I have read this > > If you have a good analog velocity mode system you can get smooth > motion at > slow speeds without a high line count

[Emc-users] Live CD RTAI version ??

2008-03-27 Thread jros
Hello :) I've tried to figure out what is the RTAI version installed in the Live CD without success. I want to install Comedi, and to get some knowledge abot RTAI and Comedi running some RTAI examples that I suppose I can obtain from a matching RTAI sources. I have made the update to 2.2.3 (for

Re: [Emc-users] FERROR & MIN_FERROR

2008-02-21 Thread jros
Thanks very much, El mié, 20-02-2008 a las 21:47 -0500, Matthew Glenn Shaver escribió: > On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 11:42 -0500, John Kasunich wrote: > > I think that is exactly how it works, but I'd have to check the source > > to be sure of the exact shape of the line. The only other possibility >

[Emc-users] FERROR & MIN_FERROR

2008-02-20 Thread jros
Hello :) I wonder If the attached graphic describes the meaning of FERROR & MIN_FERROR variables??. That is, motion will be aborted for a given velocity if absolute value of actual and commanded position diference is over the black line. I suppouse also that this difference is measured in joint

Re: [Emc-users] No more PUM in PKM, and little HOMING problem. WAS: PUM! when homing with hexaglide'sparallel kinematiks

2007-10-10 Thread jros
The link was wroken > I think that this afternoon (in spanish time), you will be able to see > some videos at http://imac/parallel/dis_img.php (only motion) > http://www.imac.unavarra.es/parallel/dis_img.php Javier & Aitor --

[Emc-users] No more PUM in PKM, and little HOMING problem. WAS: PUM! when homing with hexaglide's parallel kinematiks

2007-10-10 Thread jros
El jue, 20-09-2007 a las 09:13 -0400, John Kasunich escribió: > jros wrote: > > Yesterday we did our first trial with the new kinematics. > > > > It was really exciting!! :) > > > > But there was a shuden movement at the start of the homing sequence. >

[Emc-users] PUM! when homing with hexaglide's parallel kinematiks

2007-09-20 Thread jros
Yesterday we did our first trial with the new kinematics. It was really exciting!! :) But there was a shuden movement at the start of the homing sequence. We have programed the homing sequence so that all the joints goes upwards at the same time. We first tested with trivkins, and no problem

Re: [Emc-users] Debugging parallel kinematics: how to printfin dmesg?

2007-09-19 Thread jros
El mié, 19-09-2007 a las 09:23 -0500, Ray Henry escribió: > Are there more than one possible solution to the kinematics equations > you are using here. I remember years ago when K&T showed a Hexapod at > IMTS. Every so often the control would pick the wrong solution and rip > the ballscrew out of

Re: [Emc-users] Debugging parallel kinematics: how to printf in dmesg?

2007-09-19 Thread jros
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[Emc-users] New Fotos. WAS:Debugging parallel kinematics: howto printf in dmesg?

2007-09-19 Thread jros
El mar, 18-09-2007 a las 09:23 +0200, jros escribió: > El lun, 17-09-2007 a las 19:39 -0400, Gene Heskett escribió: > > On Monday 17 September 2007, Alex Joni wrote: > > >http://www.imac.unavarra.es/parallel/images/argazkiak/img_4336.jpg > > > > > Thanks Alex. Is

Re: [Emc-users] Debugging parallel kinematics: how to printf indmesg?

2007-09-18 Thread jros
;Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:55 PM > >Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Debugging parallel kinematics: how to printf > >indmesg? > > > >> On Monday 17 September 2007, jros wrote: > >>>Hello!. > >>> > >>>We are implementing a 6 dgf kinemat

Re: [Emc-users] Debugging parallel kinematics: how to printf in dmesg?

2007-09-17 Thread jros
> > If your kins calculations take 0.000797 seconds, you might simply be > overwhelming the PC. The default period for the servo thread is 0.0001 > seconds. Your kins code will use almost 80% of the CPU, which doesn't > leave much at all for other realtime code or the operating system. > > Y

[Emc-users] Debugging parallel kinematics: how to printf in dmesg?

2007-09-17 Thread jros
Hello!. We are implementing a 6 dgf kinematics for a parallel manipulator. (see http://imac/parallel/images/argazkiak/img_4336.jpg for a photograph of the machine without the head) We are using as a template genhexkins.c file so that compiling and launching is not a problem. We have provided ne

Re: [Emc-users] Compile genhexkins.c as a executable

2007-07-27 Thread jros
El jue, 26-07-2007 a las 13:40 -0500, Ray Henry escribió: > Hi Jeff > > I've got a hint. Genhexkins is the name of a kinematics definition for > the stepper powered cable hexapod that NIST built several years ago now. > In the original form, the matrix supplied home position for the 6 > struts.

[Emc-users] Compile genhexkins.c as a executable

2007-07-26 Thread jros
Hello list!. I see that there is a main(){} in genhexkins.c. I wonder how can I compile it to a executable file. I want to do some offline trials before trying within emc2. Thanks Javier PD: I don't have any problem to compile whole emc2 from source, and the module genhexkins.ko is generated.