Re: [Emc-users] Spindle counter vs Spindle encoder

2024-08-13 Thread gene heskett
On 8/13/24 15:39, Alan Condit via Emc-users wrote: I built an encoder for the spindle of my CNC Lathe, however, I could never seem to get the A, B, and Index signals aligned correctly. I recently burned out one of the channels while trying to get stuff aligned. Is it possible in PNCConf to set 1

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle counter vs Spindle encoder

2024-08-13 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Buy a cheap one from Amazon, Aliexpress or somewhere else? Den 2024-08-13 kl. 21:37, skrev Alan Condit via Emc-users: I built an encoder for the spindle of my CNC Lathe, however, I could never seem to get the A, B, and Index signals aligned correctly. I recently burned out one of the channels w

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle counter vs Spindle encoder

2024-08-13 Thread Peter Wallace
On Tue, 13 Aug 2024, Alan Condit via Emc-users wrote: Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 14:37:47 -0500 From: Alan Condit via Emc-users To: EMC-Users Cc: Alan Condit Subject: [Emc-users] Spindle counter vs Spindle encoder I built an encoder for the spindle of my CNC Lathe, however, I could never seem

[Emc-users] Spindle counter vs Spindle encoder

2024-08-13 Thread Alan Condit via Emc-users
I built an encoder for the spindle of my CNC Lathe, however, I could never seem to get the A, B, and Index signals aligned correctly. I recently burned out one of the channels while trying to get stuff aligned. Is it possible in PNCConf to set 1 channel counter plus index? Or do I have to do that

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle fun with closed loop vfd and fanuc motor

2023-04-13 Thread andrew beck
I think just email them. I talk to them on we chat but I think they have WhatsApp too On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, 17:29 Scott Harwell via Emc-users, < emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > I don't find the AT20 on the website, only AT10. Do you have a direct > link? > Scott > > On Wednesday, A

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle fun with closed loop vfd and fanuc motor

2023-04-12 Thread Scott Harwell via Emc-users
I don't find the AT20 on the website, only AT10. Do you have a direct link? Scott On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 08:46:39 PM CDT, andrew beck wrote: Hey guys this might help someone with a retrofit somewhere https://youtu.be/vARlybdtC6Q __

[Emc-users] Spindle fun with closed loop vfd and fanuc motor

2023-04-12 Thread andrew beck
Hey guys this might help someone with a retrofit somewhere https://youtu.be/vARlybdtC6Q ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
(330)828-2105ext. 2031 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: dave engvall > > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 9:57 AM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem > > > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure li

[Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread Roland Jollivet
though.) > > > > Todd Zuercher > > P. Graham Dunn Inc. > > 630 Henry Street > > Dalton, Ohio 44618 > > Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: dave engvall > > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 9:57 AM > > To:

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 at 17:04, dave engvall wrote: > I have T lugs but they are secured by M6 shcs which is no where close to > as strong as the normal retention stud. Probably not far off, with two of them. And it takes over 2 tons of load to break a grade 12.9 M6 bolt. -- atp "A motorcycle is

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread Ralph Stirling
618 > Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 > > -Original Message- > From: dave engvall > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 9:57 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. > > Update: The dri

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread dave engvall
sage- From: dave engvall Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 9:57 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. Update: The drive lugs get in the way of a safety disk or ring or anything else. Epoxy looks more promising; j

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread Ed
On 6/27/22 9:25 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: Gluing a spindle taper into a spindle sounds like a truly horribly idea. (I'd be more worried about it letting go when you didn't want it to, than trying to get it out later if you did want to remove it, although that also may prove problematic.) The

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread Todd Zuercher
Inc. 630 Henry Street  Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031 -Original Message- From: dave engvall Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 9:57 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. Update: The drive lugs

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread dave engvall
Update: The drive lugs get in the way of a safety disk or ring or anything else. Epoxy looks more promising; just a semi-permanent solution. Note: Epoxy can always be removed with heat or chlorinated solvents but... Dave On 6/27/22 6:27 AM, dave engvall wrote: Back again; Since crawling in unde

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread dave engvall
Back again; Since crawling in under the spindle is difficult for an old stiff guy I laid the iphone on the table and took a pic, rotated the spindle 45 degrees and took another; nothing useful moved. However, there are large socket head cap screws around the perimeter of the spindle. It should

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread dave engvall
Hi Roland, I thought about using a friend but I tend to outlive them. Lost a couple lately that would have been ideal. That is the trouble with getting old. ;-) If the machine were in a nice open shop where just running in a tall forklift and picking up the transmission, etc and lifting it off

[Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread Roland Jollivet
Surely you could hire a buff mechanic from down the road and totally supervise/instruct him what to do? On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 at 16:45, dave engvall wrote: > Hi, > My Mazak V5 has been down for a few years. First for brushes on the > spindle motor and then a much more serious broken belleville st

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-26 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 at 15:45, dave engvall wrote: > A couple of solutions present themselves but neither are ideal. > Simply use the M6 shcs that hold the dogs in place to secure the CAT40. > Balance and adequate strength/safety would seem to present problems. Does the nose have any extra holes?

[Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-26 Thread dave engvall
Hi, My Mazak V5 has been down for a few years. First for brushes on the spindle motor and then a much more serious broken belleville stack. Unfortunately, the spindle on this model comes out from the top which means pulling all the hydraulics and the spindle motor/transmission and getting them

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle? (OT)

2021-12-30 Thread Peter Hodgson
Not sure about the spindle noise but are you aware of the USB port to floppy emulators? I fitted one to my Prototrak and it works well. Restricted to 1.44mb though. Look at this on eBay USB Floppy Disk Reader Drive Emulator 3.5in No Extra Driver Required Plug N Play Pete > On 30 Dec 2021, at

[Emc-users] Spindle? (OT)

2021-12-30 Thread Todd Zuercher
Here is an off topic (not Linuxcnc related) general milling machine question. About 10 months ago we (our company) bought our first real metal working cnc machine. It is a Lagunmatic VMC 3516 with a 4th axis, and Dynapath Delta 40 control, built in 1998. We bought the machine hoping to use it

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 at 09:58, John Dammeyer wrote: > How does one tell the spindle to do one revolution at 0.5 rps and stop either > after one rev or when a sensor input is detected? Given that I'm running the > MESA board in step/dir mode. Presumably it is running in velocity mode? Use a mu

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-24 Thread Gene Heskett
s shut down. Rough outline, I've probably forgotten something. > Thanks > John > > > -Original Message- > > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > > Sent: November-23-21 7:44 PM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [E

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-24 Thread John Dammeyer
om: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: November-23-21 7:44 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning. > > On Tuesday 23 November 2021 21:33:21 John Dammeyer wrote: > > > Still wondering how I might make the sp

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 23 November 2021 21:33:21 John Dammeyer wrote: > Still wondering how I might make the spindle turn slowly and then stop > on a sensor signal. From the HAL file it's set up the same way as the > XYZA axis with respect to step_type and control-type. > > I'd want to set the velocity to sa

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-23 Thread John Dammeyer
Still wondering how I might make the spindle turn slowly and then stop on a sensor signal. From the HAL file it's set up the same way as the XYZA axis with respect to step_type and control-type. I'd want to set the velocity to say 30 RPM (0.5 RPS) and during a revolution if it detects an inp

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-23 Thread John Dammeyer
Not this one. > -Original Message- > From: Thaddeus Waldner [mailto:thadw...@gmail.com] > Sent: November-23-21 12:01 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning. > > Some of those hammers have a thru-hole for pinning the

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-23 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
Sent: November-23-21 4:04 AM >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning. >> >> On Tuesday 23 November 2021 02:47:59 andy pugh wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 01:05, John Dammeyer >> wrote: >>>

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 23 November 2021 14:14:23 John Dammeyer wrote: > I've ordered a retaining ring set for it. May help. The socket has a > recess for this ring to expand into but at the moment it almost falls > out by itself. The wrench is 10 years old and although not used > during that period the rub

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-23 Thread John Dammeyer
r the other reasons I've mentioned. John > -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: November-23-21 4:04 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning. > > On Tuesday 23 November 2021 02:47:5

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 23 November 2021 02:47:59 andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 01:05, John Dammeyer wrote: > > Likely why the set screw works loose after a number of cycles. > > I am surprised that the air wrench doesn't have the usual ball-detente > to retain the socket. I have seen some tha

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-23 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > > On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 01:05, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > Likely why the set screw works loose after a number of cycles. > > I am surprised that the air wrench doesn't have the usual ball-detente > to retain the socket. > > -- > atp It has

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 01:05, John Dammeyer wrote: > Likely why the set screw works loose after a number of cycles. I am surprised that the air wrench doesn't have the usual ball-detente to retain the socket. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread John Dammeyer
if you pressed the unload button for 5 seconds? > >> Obviously the tool would drop out. But does anything else unscrew or > >> require manual operations to put back? > >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: John Figie [mailto:z

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread John Figie
> From: John Figie [mailto:zephyr9...@gmail.com] >> > Sent: November-22-21 2:30 PM >> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning. >> > >> > Instead of a drawbar with a hex end you could use the kind w

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread John Figie
John Figie [mailto:zephyr9...@gmail.com] > > Sent: November-22-21 2:30 PM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning. > > > > Instead of a drawbar with a hex end you could use the kind with a spline > > end like the

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 November 2021 17:30:08 John Figie wrote: > Instead of a drawbar with a hex end you could use the kind with a > spline end like the ones that Kurt sells for their power drawbar. My > Bridgeport came with a Kurt power drawbar. I have had it since around > 2003. Still using the same draw

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread John Dammeyer
rom: John Figie [mailto:zephyr9...@gmail.com] > Sent: November-22-21 2:30 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning. > > Instead of a drawbar with a hex end you could use the kind with a spline > end like the ones that Kurt sells for their powe

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 November 2021 16:35:37 John Dammeyer wrote: > Hi Mathew, > I want to be able to swap easily and quickly between R8 and TTS. > Here's a selection of some of the tooling. > > http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/ToolSelection.jpg > I've quite a bit more than that John but not the variety.

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread John Figie
ait for the 12 point deep socket. > > John > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Matthew Herd [mailto:herd.m...@gmail.com] > > Sent: November-22-21 10:49 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread John Dammeyer
x27;t slip with the 5/8" chuck holding a 1" reduced shank drill bit. First step now is to wait for the 12 point deep socket. John > -Original Message- > From: Matthew Herd [mailto:herd.m...@gmail.com] > Sent: November-22-21 10:49 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread Matthew Herd
a draw bar from oil hardening steel and hardening the head a bit so it > doesn't get carved away and ends up more slippery might also be a requirement. > > John > > >> -Original Message- >> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] >> Sent:

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread John Dammeyer
head a bit so it doesn't get carved away and ends up more slippery might also be a requirement. John > -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > Sent: November-22-21 5:41 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > Can you backdrive the impact wrench? Keep it engaged? > At the moment the loudest part of my system is the splined spindle shaft rattling in the splined pulley drive. Especially with light cuts or not engaged. Really quite annoying. Once f

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread John Dammeyer
el.net] > Sent: November-22-21 7:06 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning. > > On Monday 22 November 2021 07:01:27 Roland Jollivet wrote: > > > You probably don't need more than 1 bar on the lifting air cylinder, >

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread John Dammeyer
t: November-22-21 4:15 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning. > > What about a custom draw bar with an Andy Pugh style air cylinder release? > Seems simpler to engineer the mechanism than do all > this control. Just have a dra

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread Sam Sokolik
/driver connection. > > I never thought I'd have this much trouble... > John > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Roland Jollivet [mailto:roland.jolli...@gmail.com] > > Sent: November-22-21 4:01 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: [Emc

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread John Dammeyer
01 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning. > > You probably don't need more than 1 bar on the lifting air cylinder, up or > down. No need to force it down. > So let it down, then if you can give the spindle a 1RPM burst to let t

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 November 2021 07:01:27 Roland Jollivet wrote: > You probably don't need more than 1 bar on the lifting air cylinder, > up or down. No need to force it down. > So let it down, then if you can give the spindle a 1RPM burst to let > the nut slip over. > And have a switch on driver Z to k

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 08:03, John Dammeyer wrote: > One still has to line up the socket to the hex head of the drawbar. And > since it can be at any position relative to the spindle the sensing has to > happen against the hex head. Rotate spindle until hex head is at a known > position. Ho

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread Matthew Herd
What about a custom draw bar with an Andy Pugh style air cylinder release? Seems simpler to engineer the mechanism than do all this control. Just have a drawbar that’s normally retracted with a flange. Engage the flange with a mechanism on an air cylinder to release. https://m.youtube.com/wat

[Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread Roland Jollivet
You probably don't need more than 1 bar on the lifting air cylinder, up or down. No need to force it down. So let it down, then if you can give the spindle a 1RPM burst to let the nut slip over. And have a switch on driver Z to know if it's down over the nut. You could also stop the spindle and de

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 November 2021 02:48:36 John Dammeyer wrote: > > I assume you have a similar, fixed position spindle lock? I had to > > make mine. > > Nope. As a friend said the other day when I asked if he'd found a > lock on his... "I use a big hammer on the supplied wrench to tighten > or loosen i

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-22 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: dave engvall [mailto:dengv...@charter.net] > On 11/21/21 9:24 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: > > Is there a way to tell the spindle to turn until it finds the index and > > stop so it's always stopping at the exact same spot? Like > decelerate to 0.5 rev per second (30 RPM) or slower and stop

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-21 Thread John Dammeyer
> I assume you have a similar, fixed position spindle lock? I had to make > mine. Nope. As a friend said the other day when I asked if he'd found a lock on his... "I use a big hammer on the supplied wrench to tighten or loosen it". He's since carved a 3/4" hex head on his and is now using his

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-21 Thread dave engvall
On 11/21/21 9:24 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I'm running my AC Servo spindle motor as step/dir and can easily tell LCNC to do 1 RPM. I also have the quadrature encoder on it so I can do power tapping. The drive is through the MESA 7i92H as one of the stepper channels as is the encoder signal

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 November 2021 00:24:40 John Dammeyer wrote: > I'm running my AC Servo spindle motor as step/dir and can easily tell > LCNC to do 1 RPM. I also have the quadrature encoder on it so I can > do power tapping. The drive is through the MESA 7i92H as one of the > stepper channels as is t

[Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-21 Thread John Dammeyer
I'm running my AC Servo spindle motor as step/dir and can easily tell LCNC to do 1 RPM. I also have the quadrature encoder on it so I can do power tapping. The drive is through the MESA 7i92H as one of the stepper channels as is the encoder signals. Is there a way to tell the spindle to tur

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-11-19 Thread Gene Heskett
> > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Cc: > > Bcc: > > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 18:40:59 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76 > > > > On Thursday 18 November 2021 17:57:19 Alan Condit wrote: > > > I built a new

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-11-19 Thread Alan Condit
Gene, Sorry, this message got sent in error. I was working on my wife’s iPad and some how a draft of an old message got sent rather than deleted. Alan From: Gene Heskett > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 18:40:59 -0500 > Subject:

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 November 2021 17:57:19 Alan Condit wrote: > I built a new controller for my 9x20 lathe using a 5i25/7i76 combo. I > thought I had everything working but I still can’t get the spindle > working correctly. I have a 1.5hp PMDC treadmill motor that I am > controlling with a Cycletrol-15

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 November 2021 17:57:19 Alan Condit wrote: > I built a new controller for my 9x20 lathe using a 5i25/7i76 combo. I > thought I had everything working but I still can’t get the spindle > working correctly. I have a 1.5hp PMDC treadmill motor that I am > controlling with a Cycletrol-15

[Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-11-18 Thread Alan Condit
I built a new controller for my 9x20 lathe using a 5i25/7i76 combo. I thought I had everything working but I still can’t get the spindle working correctly. I have a 1.5hp PMDC treadmill motor that I am controlling with a Cycletrol-150 DC controller. The am using the analog out from the 7i76 to r

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-09-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 13 Sept 2021 at 22:54, Alan Condit wrote: > I have the Cycletrol-150 Manual. It says that you can replace the 5k ohm > potentiometer with a 0-10v analog signal. The 7i76 manual says that you can > use it to replace a 5k potentiometer control (0-10v). So that should work and > indeed see

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-09-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 13 September 2021 18:20:17 Alan Condit wrote: > Update, I found some old photos of the motor’s id plate. I thought it > was rated at 6000 rpm at 110 volts, but it was really only 3000rpm at > 110volts. When I adjusted the maximum rpm in PNCConf, suddenly I was > getting a solid “At Speed

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-09-13 Thread Alan Condit
Update, I found some old photos of the motor’s id plate. I thought it was rated at 6000 rpm at 110 volts, but it was really only 3000rpm at 110volts. When I adjusted the maximum rpm in PNCConf, suddenly I was getting a solid “At Speed” indicator. John, I will still try measuring the analog

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-09-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 13 September 2021 16:51:42 Alan Condit wrote: > John, Peter and Gene, > > I have the Cycletrol-150 Manual. It says that you can replace the 5k > ohm potentiometer with a 0-10v analog signal. The 7i76 manual says > that you can use it to replace a 5k potentiometer control (0-10v). So > th

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-09-13 Thread John Dammeyer
ulses add a 10uF 16V capacitor across it. Then see if the voltage level changes from 0V to 10V. Baby steps... John > -Original Message- > From: Alan Condit [mailto:condit.a...@gmail.com] > Sent: September-13-21 1:52 PM > To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-09-13 Thread Alan Condit
John, Peter and Gene, I have the Cycletrol-150 Manual. It says that you can replace the 5k ohm potentiometer with a 0-10v analog signal. The 7i76 manual says that you can use it to replace a 5k potentiometer control (0-10v). So that should work and indeed seems to be working. I have tried adjus

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-09-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 September 2021 17:49:43 Alan Condit wrote: > I built a new controller for my 9x20 lathe using a 5i25/7i76 combo. I > thought I had everything working but I still can’t get the spindle > working correctly. I have a 1.5hp PMDC treadmill motor that I am > controlling with a Cycletrol-150

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-09-12 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 12 Sep 2021, Alan Condit wrote: Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 16:49:43 -0500 From: Alan Condit Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net" Subject: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76 I built a new controller for m

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-09-12 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Alan, > From: Alan Condit [mailto:condit.a...@gmail.com] > I built a new controller for my 9x20 lathe using a 5i25/7i76 combo. I thought > I had everything working but I still can�t get the spindle > working correctly. > I have a 1.5hp PMDC treadmill motor that I am controlling with a > Cyclet

[Emc-users] Spindle setup for 5i25/7i76

2021-09-12 Thread Alan Condit
I built a new controller for my 9x20 lathe using a 5i25/7i76 combo. I thought I had everything working but I still can’t get the spindle working correctly. I have a 1.5hp PMDC treadmill motor that I am controlling with a Cycletrol-150 DC controller. The am using the analog out from the 7i76 to r

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread andrew beck
> >> On Fri, 9 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: >> >> > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:49:05 +1200 >> > From: andrew beck >> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> > >> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" &

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread andrew beck
roller (EMC)" > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card > looking for > > configs to study > > > > also just confirming that the > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 9 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:49:05 +1200 From: andrew beck Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for co

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread andrew beck
eck >> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> > >> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card >> looking f

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread andrew beck
t;Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card > looking for > > configs to study > > > > hey Peter > > >

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 9 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:21:05 +1200 From: andrew beck Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for c

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread andrew beck
t; > From: andy pugh > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card > looking for > > configs to study > >

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, andy pugh wrote: Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 15:25:37 +0100 From: andy pugh Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 15:20, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > Also some NPN prox's have built in pullups so may source 24V to the > output when off. Would a 5.2V zener at the terminal block be a sensible precaution? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for t

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 8 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 01:47:18 +1200 From: andrew beck Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for config

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 14:50, andrew beck wrote: > > Hey I do have npn proxy switches. They run on 6v how do I power Them > though? Definitely wait for the go-ahead from PCW on this one, but I think that it is safe to wire pulled-up 5V inputs to the output of an NPN prox that is powered from 24V

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andrew beck
ly-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card > looking for > > configs to study > > > > Also when you say Pu

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 8 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 01:34:02 +1200 From: andrew beck Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for co

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 14:36, andrew beck wrote: > > Also when you say Pull down resistor can I just solder that between the pnp > prox output wire and the encoder input? Is an NPN an option? (wouldn't need to be specifically a low voltage one, I don't think) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle wi

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 14:15, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > The encoder inputs have a 2K pullup resistor to 5V At the point where I said "I am not PCW" that should be interpreted to mean "ignore everything that I am about to say" :-) I wasn't aware that the encoder pins were different, other than th

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andrew beck
-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> > >> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card >> looking for >> > con

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andrew beck
21 20:47:35 +1200 > > From: andrew beck > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card > looking for > > con

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 20:47:35 +1200 From: andrew beck Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for con

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andrew beck
Awesome I'll power up tomorrow and try it out On Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 10:22 PM andy pugh wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 10:58, andrew beck wrote: > > > Yep it's definitely 5v pnp I got them special from the manufacturer. > > So can I just power it from 5v and 0v. And then the sensor output goes >

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 10:58, andrew beck wrote: > Yep it's definitely 5v pnp I got them special from the manufacturer. > So can I just power it from 5v and 0v. And then the sensor output goes into > the 7i77 spindle z index input? Yes, that should work fine. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andrew beck
Thanks Andy! Yep it's definitely 5v pnp I got them special from the manufacturer. So can I just power it from 5v and 0v. And then the sensor output goes into the 7i77 spindle z index input? (Jumpered for single ended inputs of course) On Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 9:51 PM andy pugh wrote: > On We

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 09:51, andrew beck wrote: > PCW can I use a 5v pnp sensor straight into the 7i77 encoder input same as > I would do with the field io? I am not PCW, but I think that should be fine, as long as it is definitely 5V. Most prox sensors don't even work until they have 7V on the

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andrew beck
A1F9FDF2> On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 3:38 AM Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 18:35:26 +1200 > > From: andrew beck > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: "Enhanced

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 18:35:26 +1200 From: andrew beck Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-06 Thread Martin Dobbins
rom: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com] > Sent: July-05-21 11:35 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for > configs to study > > hey everyone. > > i have been messing around all day with my cnc

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-06 Thread John Dammeyer
and figure this out it may help you? John > -Original Message- > From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com] > Sent: July-05-21 11:35 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for > conf

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