[FairfieldLife] Re: Dog Ear Infections - I taught my dog to meditate

2005-04-20 Thread chandashari
How could you? - the re-constitution course has not finished yet. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > sramanist wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > My dog had a problem too. It was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, so this is some guy's commentary on Patanjali. I always wondered why > Patanjali devoted one chapter of a 4-chapter book to siddhis if siddhis were > so bad. Interesting that after 25 years of sidhi practice no o

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-20 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Hi Akasha, > > > > Thank you for your lengthy and thoughtful reply. I can much better > > understand your overall perspe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2005, at 11:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > OK, so this is some guy's commentary on Patanjali. No, it is much more than that--it's the path to CC and UC. Patanjali is part of it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLif

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-20 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Along the same lines, I believe it is very good to use the Mirror > analysis (as Byron Katie recommends) to realize that all is indeed a > drama of the Self, but that doesn't mean one will sit idly by while > injus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2005, at 11:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > Some people have subjective experiences > with them, of course, but nothing verifiable. If they aren't working, > how > can they be blocking CC? According to Vidyaranya, they are a major source of ego-mania. If they are having subjective expe

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-20 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And > again, if it it doesn't ring true deepdown for you, that's OK -- > simply consider it my own projection, venting etc.; I don't mind. :-) However, I am probably going to continue pointing out this "biting snak

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread wayback71
-> On Apr 19, 2005, at 11:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > Some people have subjective experiences > > with them, of course, but nothing verifiable. If they aren't working, > > how > > can they be blocking CC? >Vaj wrote: > According to Vidyaranya, they are a major source of ego-mania. If the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2005, at 8:18 AM, wayback71 wrote: > What do the Shankaracharyas say? Who is > Vidyaranya? Vidyaranya was one of the most eminent Shankaracharyas. He was the 12th jagadguru of the Sringiri seat. His text on the attainment of Cosmic Consciousness is still the standard among yogis t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Patrick Gillam
Setting aside the texts for a moment, what are peoples' experiences with the TM-Siddhi program? It seems whacky to debate a text, however learned, when we have such a large cohort of people who've practiced the techniques for decades. I'm thinking we could evaluate them for ourselves, based

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, so this is some guy's commentary on Patanjali. I always wondered why > Patanjali devoted one chapter of a 4-chapter book to siddhis if siddhis were > so bad. Interesting that after 25 years of sidhi practice no one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread wayback71
My experiences are like yours: nothing in terms of powers. sometimes energy up the spine during "hopping" and usually a feeling of inner silence, quiet and of being cleansed after the whole thing. Mostly profound silence. Like I feel after doing an hour and a half of yoga, only the siddh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita,

2005-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2005, at 1:49 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > 3) It appears possible that some claims of Brahman are simply a well > infused darshana. Comments? Interesting, on looking at Vidyaranya's work on CC and UC he gives the following prophecy: "With the arrival of the age of Kali, O Maitreya, ever

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2005, at 8:51 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: > > Setting aside the texts for a moment, what are > peoples' experiences with the TM-Siddhi > program? It seems whacky to debate a text, > however learned, when we have such a large > cohort of people who've practiced the techniques > for decad

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC - Siddhi prg

2005-04-20 Thread anonymousff
Patanjali believed them be fully working. also if they are useless why Purusha spent so much time practicing them? we also have historic evidence that above normal powers are achievable. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Setting aside the t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My experiences are like yours: nothing in terms of powers. sometimes energy up the > spine during "hopping" That's the kundalini energy. >and usually a feeling of inner silence, quiet and of being cleansed >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 20, 2005, at 8:51 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: > > > > > Setting aside the texts for a moment, what are > > peoples' experiences with the TM-Siddhi > > program? It seems whacky to debate a text, > > however learned, wh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2005, at 9:48 AM, anonymousff wrote: > Vaj, "the problem" that you stated is not really a problem > from a non dual state is it... Of course not--the problem is that experiences tend to throw people into dualism. When practiced habitually as your "program" you train yourself in a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
My experience of the sidhis is that they manifest in my personality, because the sidhis are aspects of our personalities. I haven't felt any sort of fear due to their practice, like fear that I might fall from awakening, no, my regular activity sponsors those notions.  Over my life I have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC - Siddhi prg

2005-04-20 Thread Peter Sutphen
I'm waiting for Tom to weigh in on this debate! The sutras are not practiced to primarily bring about a siddhi. Although they can do that. I have had several siddhi experiences that came about after practicing the TM-sidhi program for about ten years. These where experiences and not permanent abil

[FairfieldLife] Pope, Leaving Church, TMO Parallel

2005-04-20 Thread markmeredith2002
The elevation of the catholic church's chief modern day inquisitor and protector of conservative dogma (and a german no less) has thrown socially progessive and spiritually oriented catholics into a quandry as they dread the direction in which the church will inevitably move now, but feel great p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Harakiri

2005-04-20 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have gone through every synopsis I could find of Toshiro Mifunes > films and I can't find the movie I was thinking of. The third part of > the Samurai trilogy sounds familiar, who knows maybe I made it up. > > Rick

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC;

2005-04-20 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 11:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > OK, so this is some guy's commentary on Patanjali. > > No, it is much more than that--it's the path to CC and UC. Patanjali is > part of it. Is this a reasonable tr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread cardemaister
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-20 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/19/05 8:32 PM, easyone200 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Not to my understanding. The molestations were occurring as many as 5 times >> a week. For how long? > > I guess that makes it OK then, he wasn't drunk and by your logic if it was 5 > times a week > she was into it. 5 times a we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC;

2005-04-20 Thread Vaj
It sounds like a good source. I use the translation of the current Shankaracharya of Sringiri which is excellent. He is an expert on Vidyaranya. On Apr 20, 2005, at 10:54 AM, akasha_108 wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Apr 19, 2005, at

[FairfieldLife] Re: This Pope Dont Rock...

2005-04-20 Thread lupidus108
For more information on the Pope please see: http://www.shareintl.org > did you know the new pope > comes from a nice jewish family !! > > they have not had a jewish pope since > the apostle peter !! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.co

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Harakiri

2005-04-20 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have gone through every synopsis I could find of > Toshiro Mifunes > > films and I can't find the movie I was thinking > of. The third part of > > the Samurai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-20 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 4:33 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > > > > > But to those who experience the ever expanding > > universe as a > > > neverending, pulsating body of bli

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-20 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 4:33 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > > > > > But to those who experience the ever expanding > > universe as a > > > neverending, pulsating body of bli

[FairfieldLife] Re: Harakiri

2005-04-20 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I have gone through every synopsis I could find of > > Toshiro Mifu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-20 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 4:33 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > > > > > > > But to those who experience the ever ex

[FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-20 Thread feste37
Here's my take on this. The father is a very controlling man. He develops a possessive emotional attachment to his daughter, and is jealous when she starts to form friendships with boys. She resents this, and plots to get back at him and free herself. Being immature (naturally, at that age), s

[FairfieldLife] New low in outsourcing

2005-04-20 Thread Vaj
"Three San Diego entrepreneurs plan to start a cut-rate outsourcing plant for software development three miles off the coast of Los Angeles aboard a used cruise ship moored in international waters. "Wired with a fat T3 pipe fed by microwave, SeaCode would employ 600 developers - the bulk of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, -- bliss vs C

2005-04-20 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >The experience of bliss has nothing to do with consciousness. Bliss is the > outward movement of consciousness into the relative. plz read what you write b4 posting it, you said nothing to do w consciousness

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread jim_flanegin
Very beautifully spoken. Thank you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My experience of the sidhis is that they manifest in my personality, because the sidhis are aspects of our personalities. I haven't felt any sort of fear due to their practice, li

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This Pope Dont Rock...

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
I got ya dude, the pope and share would prolly get along in their maniacal madness. Lord forbid the antichrist doesn't get born through that unholy union. Yuk. Makes me truely ill thinking about it. I had to spit and make the sign of the templar. Oh though you will make of us the scapegoat

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This Pope Dont Rock...

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
Nonetheless I would serve the Pope and even Share just out of principal to show that your thinking is merely conditioned. - Original Message - From: lupidus108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This Pope Dont Rock...

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
Last thing, the truth should walk beside its shadow. What do you think? - Original Message - From: lupidus108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This Pope Dont Rock... For more informatio

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-20 Thread jim_flanegin
Exactly, and I agree with you 100%. I felt all of the things you just expressed regarding my interaction with Akasha. Its just that I saw that he had met me part of the distance and I wanted to acknowledge that. That was the important part for me. My personal experience is that once the door

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, -- bliss vs. C

2005-04-20 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/20/05 11:20 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Bliss is a trap that can suck the mind into samsara >> forever. > > are you sure ? Bliss is one of the sheaths obscuring the Self. Are there 5? Anandamaya Kosha I believe it's called. Cardemeister and Vaj to the rescue. To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
Samadhi is an obstacle to samadhi which is why the darshan is needed which is why Guru Dev used an open eye meditation technique. It's very important to see the ground state asap, all other mental extrapolation of the ground state is dangerous. Noone should have any sort of ego over experi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-20 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/20/05 9:59:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 5 times a week, yet the doctor who examined her said it was unclear that shehad ever had sex, and her father had been diagnosed with erectiledysfunction. Seems fishy. Bingo, my very point , no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-20 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/20/05 10:54:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just hope I don't get called forjury duty for the third trial, if there is one. If you do, just read this e-mail and they will scratch your name from the jury pool! To subscribe, send a mes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, -- bliss vs C

2005-04-20 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >The experience of bliss has nothing to do > with consciousness. Bliss is the > > outward movement of consciousness into the > relative. > > plz rea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 20, 2005, at 8:51 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: > > > > > Setting aside the texts for a moment, what are > > peoples' experiences with the TM-Siddhi > > program? It seems whacky to debate a text, > > however learned, wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Setting aside the texts for a moment, what are > peoples' experiences with the TM-Siddhi > program? It seems whacky to debate a text, > however learned, when we have such a large > cohort of people who've

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
Bliss is a trap that can suck the mind into samsaraforever. Cosmic heroin.-Peterananda-ji---Good point, which is why one must be a tantric master. One cannot hope to withstand Kali so one must be skillful in action and make her happy. This is truely the only way. Karma will suck you back do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
This shit is kind of making me sick. Does this sickness really have to spread. I mean, if sosmeone could do something about it then fine but if not can we let it go. Yuk. Nevermind. - Original Message - From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesda

Re: [FairfieldLife] New low in outsourcing

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
Neat, good idea. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] New low in outsourcing "Three San Diego entrepreneurs plan to start a cut-rate outsourcing plantfor softwa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 20, 2005, at 9:48 AM, anonymousff wrote: > > > Vaj, "the problem" that you stated is not really a problem > > from a non dual state is it... > > Of course not--the problem is that experiences tend to throw people

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I honestly think that the notion of humans having sidhis in this century is a prerequisite for being burned alive, so choose to display if that's your choice, but I wouldn't. This is a good point. Can you imagine if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC - Siddhi prg

2005-04-20 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm waiting for Tom to weigh in on this debate! The > sutras are not practiced to primarily bring about a > siddhi. Although they can do that. I have had several > siddhi experiences that came about after practicing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope, Leaving Church, TMO Parallel

2005-04-20 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/20/05 9:55:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The elevation of the catholic church's chief modern day inquisitor andprotector of conservative dogma (and a german no less) has thrownsocially progessive and spiritually oriented catholics into

[FairfieldLife] Re: Harakiri

2005-04-20 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have gone through every synopsis I could find of Toshiro Mifunes > > films and I can't find the movie I was thinking of. The t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2005, at 1:04 PM, Rick wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Apr 20, 2005, at 9:48 AM, anonymousff wrote: >> >>> Vaj, "the problem" that you stated is not really a problem >>> from a non dual state is it... >> >> Of course not--the prob

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Rick wrote: > This is a good point. Can you imagine if someone sat in the middle of > some famous public place and levitated for one hour, long enough for > media coverage and all the rest, then tried to go on with their > regular life. How long before some zealot to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-20 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 4:33 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > > > > > > > But t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope, Leaving Church, TMO Parallel

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
 They could probably get a lot more people in to take communion if they would change it from Grape juice and bread to Beer and peanuts. Lets make religion more fun, I mean isn't that what life is for?     That is the question which goes to the heart of the matter. To subscribe, send a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dog Ear Infections - I taught my dog to meditate

2005-04-20 Thread Don
Don't tell her that or she'll want the $2500 back! chandashari wrote: > How could you? - the re-constitution course has not finished yet. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > sramanist wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don <[EM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 20, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Rick wrote: > > > This is a good point. Can you imagine if someone sat in the middle of > > some famous public place and levitated for one hour, long enough for > > media coverage and all the

[FairfieldLife] shruti

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
Not many talk about shruti. What have you all heard. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fair

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
Anyone who has the full teachings for flying would have taken vows that would prevent them from such displays.Or they would save such a vulgar display for the right moment, and say, stopped missiles from dropping or something. Say sidhas raptured out of the world through levitation an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Patrick Gillam
Responses interleaved below. wayback71 wrote: > > Is feeling good dangerous because you get attached? Yes. For example, I feel good because I just finished a great lunch, to which I can say without doubt I am attached. I cannot seem to get away from eating. It has me by the throat, as it we

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC - Siddhi prg

2005-04-20 Thread Patrick Gillam
Peter Sutphen wrote: > The practice "pulled" pure > consciousness into the relative mind. That's the only > way I can explain it. This is how I see it, also -- pulling PC into the mind. Sucking the silence up into the noise. And that's how it was sold, was it not? Or maybe I'm mistaking my ex

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC - Siddhi prg

2005-04-20 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Or maybe I'm > mistaking my experience for the promise. If so, it would be he first time ever on this list. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/

[FairfieldLife] Chicken

2005-04-20 Thread akasha_108
Phil Goldberg, past list member, once mentioned that the dali lama eats chicken. I was trying to find a reference -- with no luck -- other than he is against KFC. (Though as i understand it, some chicken eaters may be against the inhumane practices of KFC etc, but still eat range chicken.So this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chicken

2005-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2005, at 2:34 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > Anyone have any clear info on this ? I don't know about chicken, but I've heard him say he loves pork. He used to try and sneak it off his fathers dinner plate when he was small. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Stupid and less stupid bliss

2005-04-20 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, I experience profound, deep, over-whelming waves > of bliss. That's why I can call it "stupid" because it > is powerful, powerful maya. The experience of bliss > has nothing to do with consciousness. Bliss i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stupid and less stupid bliss

2005-04-20 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you can appreciate only bliss and you think you are already > perfect and the problems you perceive are outside, the outcome can be > something like MMY and TMO. It seems to represent a conglomerate of >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-20 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > O

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope, Leaving Church, TMO Parallel

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
That is, we already know what fun is but only the Church knows and aproves of what's not fun, like slavery, women's submission, secrecy regarding the dispicable acts committed by their institution through assumed and yet false authority, torture in the name of the holy see, and other such

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
Oh really? I didn't know that, who do you make this vow to? It sounds like a bargain;"Okay, I will give you this secret knowledge, but first you have to promise me that you will never, never display it in public...Okay?...Yes, I promise" Just joking.Rick Carlstrom---Actually, it's not real

[FairfieldLife] Can someone point out where the present pope condems TM? or the last one did so?

2005-04-20 Thread WLeed3
I wonder if they did was it in an encyclical which one & date of it? etc. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups

[FairfieldLife] Rainbows

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
Are a display of the six elements, to boot, , space, sun, cloud, rain, earth. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://gr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-20 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004 on 4/20/05 11:38 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samadhi is an obstacle to samadhi which is why the darshan is needed which is why Guru Dev used an open eye meditation technique. It's ver

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
Yes. For example, I feel good because I just finished a great lunch, to which I can say without doubt I am attached. I cannot seem to get away from eating. It has me by the throat, as it were.   ---Practical advice, always offer the last and best bite to Guru. For someone else. > Or is it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stupid and less stupid bliss

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
Bliss is also cosmic heroin. Once tasting it and you are addicted to it. At least that happened to me.But the experience of bliss HAS something to do with consciousness, and actually a lot.     ---Heroin ain't all that. Poppie Tea is better and harder to quit. Bliss is only as good as ones

[FairfieldLife] St. Malachi's Prophecy

2005-04-20 Thread interesting_fun_guy
"Did St. Malachi's Prophecy Score Again With New Pope? " "With the election of the new Pope...has anyone drawn your attention to the Prophecies of St. Malachi? "St. Malachi, the 12th century Irish bishop, who in a vision saw the names of all of the Popes from his own day until the end of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, -- bliss vs. C

2005-04-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/20/05 11:20 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Bliss is a trap that can suck the mind into samsara > >> forever. > > > > are you sure ? > > Bliss is one of the sheaths obscuring the Self. Are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can someone point out where the present pope condems TM? or the last one did

2005-04-20 Thread johnlasher20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I wonder if they did was it in an encyclical which one & date of it? etc. This is the document written by the present pope regarding meditation. He does NOT condem TM and eastern forms of meditation but puts them in a context of C

[FairfieldLife] Re: St. Malachi's Prophecy

2005-04-20 Thread Patrick Gillam
I don't know about St. Malachi, but I do recall a prediction from the 1970s. Some source said the full-blown Age of Enlightenment would occur in five popes. (Probably it was someone who said, "Maharishi said...") We're now on Pope No. 4, and the guy's 78. So there's a little correlation be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chicken

2005-04-20 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Phil Goldberg, past list member, once mentioned that the dali lama > eats chicken. I was trying to find a reference -- with no luck -- > other than he is against KFC. (Though as i understand it, some chicken > eater

[FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-20 Thread m2smart4u2000
her father had been diagnosed with erectile > > dysfunction. Seems fishy. The term "erectile dysfunction" can mean the inability to achieve erection, an inconsistent ability to do so, or the ability to achieve only brief erections. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chicken

2005-04-20 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/20/05 1:50:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Anyone have any clear info on this ?I don't know about chicken, but I've heard him say he loves pork. He used to try and sneak it off his fathers dinner plate when he was small. Nothin wrong

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chicken

2005-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2005, at 4:28 PM, L B Shriver wrote: > If I remember correctly (always an iffy proposition) from previous > research: Tibet's climate > and geography make vegetarianism more or less impossible. Buddhists > are prohibited > from killing, but not from eating dead flesh. There is a spe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Can someone point out where the present pope condems TM? ...

2005-04-20 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/20/05 2:33:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if they did was it in an encyclical which one & date of it? etc. Do a google search. I saw it last night when somebody else brought it up. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Harakiri

2005-04-20 Thread medwards520
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have gone through every synopsis I could find of Toshiro Mifunes > films and I can't find the movie I was thinking of. The third part of > the Samurai trilogy sounds familiar, who knows maybe I made it up. > > Rick

[FairfieldLife] Re: Harakiri

2005-04-20 Thread medwards520
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, medwards520 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have gone through every synopsis I could find of Toshiro Mifunes > > films and I can't find the movie I was thinking of. The third

[FairfieldLife] Re: Harakiri

2005-04-20 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, medwards520 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have gone through every synopsis I could find of Toshiro Mifunes > > films and I can't find the movie I was thinking of. The third

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-20 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial on 4/20/05 12:00 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This shit is kind of making me sick. Does this sickness really have to spread. I mean, if sosmeone could do something about it then fine but if not can we let it go. Yuk. Nevermind.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-20 Thread Llundrub
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial So then there is really abuse there. That's the umpteenth time I've heard of sex abuse in FF. If it was all bullshit then we wouldn't ever hear anything. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yaho

[FairfieldLife] Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita,

2005-04-20 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Peter Sutphen writes: I'm waiting for Tom to weigh in on this debate! The sutras are not practiced to primarily bring about a siddhi. Tom T responds: OK sucked in again but with 200 new lurkers there must be a few who have not heard me expound on this. It is my cognition that the entire Sidhi pr

[FairfieldLife] (Was [Re: The Rory Problem Redux]) The Heart

2005-04-20 Thread jim_flanegin
Hi Rory, There was a lot in this post and I had to take my daughter to the Zoo this morning (hey doesn't that work out beautifully in the absolute!!), so I didn't have time to read it more carefully. Anyway, I just wanted to acknowledge the wonderful term that you used; 'energy signature'. S

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita,

2005-04-20 Thread WLeed3
Thanks Tom & Cindy for your reposting of sutras 52-55 I had read it before & recalled it but this re-- posting has now allowed me to print it out & keep it with my book on the sutras again thanks to you both, I am sure I speak for many others as well.  -Original Message-From: tomandcindy

[FairfieldLife] New Governor Recertification Course Announced

2005-04-20 Thread Rick Archer
Dear Governors, It is joy to announce that there will be another Recertification Course for Governors of the Age of Enlightenment. Many Governors had wanted to take the current Recertification Course that is ending today but were unable to do so on such short notice. We are pleased to announce t

[FairfieldLife] 26 New Research Studies

2005-04-20 Thread Rick Archer
Title: 26 New Research Studies The Review, Vol. 20, #14, April 20, 2005 Copyright 2005, Maharishi University of Management Headlines http://www.mum.edu/TheReview   26 New Research Studies Published by Journal The 26 studies published this month in a special journal issue include seminal res

[FairfieldLife] Re: TTC Recert Agreement Question

2005-04-20 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bmorry2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know the details of the agreement form people had to sign > before starting the course? > > A friend told me that the form stated that one could only teach full > time after taking the course! > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: A direct outcome of the Mahayagyas ...

2005-04-20 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html? art=111364509412897845 > > Maharishi: 'Now it is the media's turn to reflect on positive events' > by India Desk Staff Writer > > Age of Enlightenment News Service

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Ex-Governors

2005-04-20 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bmorry2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > So, are the new ex-governors called citizen sidhas now? > > What do you all hear from the course? > > Any info would be appreciated ** Decerts To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

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