[FairfieldLife] The evils of prosyletution

2008-05-19 Thread TurquoiseB
So what is the characteristic that distinguishes some posts on Fairfield Life from others? We all know how we react to the different posters, and the thoughts that they type in and Send our way. But is there a common denominator to the ones that tend to get reacted to negatively here? I think that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Exploring The Mechanics Of Judgment, Beliefs

2008-05-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > Fascinating art

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Remember a great man once said the government reflect the consciousness of the people. I have seen how that part of my mentality that is BUSHIAN has made as much of a mess of my own life as George Has made of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think Clinton is the awful person many people paint > her as. Its just that I am willing to risk what comes up next > on Obama. I have a pretty good idea of what to expect with > her, and its not so bad, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In my opinion, he is at least as calculating and > unprincipled as Hillary is portrayed as being, at > least as obsessed with power, but with vastly less > to offer the country and vastly more impressed with > his own w

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 19, 2008, at 7:57 PM, authfriend wrote: > > >> I'm sure that he and I could sit down and cook up quite > >> a list. I'd have to help him because he has MS and finds > >> it hard to talk, much less write. For

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread lurkernomore20002000
I commend Judy for looking up the particulars of this interview. Obviously it was the interviewer who, not satisfied with the answer he got, kept pushing, until he got some controversy. And yet the impression remains, as in Feste's case. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[E

[FairfieldLife] Re: Exploring The Mechanics Of Judgment, Beliefs

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When you want a really good laugh azgrey, go to: > > http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/ > > She got into it with a highly respected award winning > journalist who completely skewers her. > The "cracked pot" make

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I feel the same way about Clinton as Rick's friend. I had a > favorable impression of her when the campaign started, but > when the pressure was on her she resorted to some nasty > little games. Just to give one example,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On May 19, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Tom wrote: > > > Of course I noticed that Sweetie. Of course I read them. > > Of course I saw your weak attempt at manipulation. > > I'm not upset in the least that you, once again, > > prove m

[FairfieldLife] Re: Exploring The Mechanics Of Judgment, Beliefs

2008-05-19 Thread satvadude108
When you want a really good laugh azgrey, go to: http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/ She got into it with a highly respected award winning journalist who completely skewers her. The "cracked pot" makes me laugh till I cry. Enjoy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On May 19, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Tom wrote: > > > Of course I noticed that Sweetie. Of course I read them. > > Of course I saw your weak attempt at manipulation. > > I'm not upset in the least that you, once again, > > prove m

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 19, 2008, at 7:30 PM, authfriend wrote: > > >> Jeez, Judy, talk about "utterly idiotic." > > > > No, these kinds of vague complaints are tossed > > around about Hillary as if it were established > > fact that

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread feste37
I feel the same way about Clinton as Rick's friend. I had a favorable impression of her when the campaign started, but when the pressure was on her she resorted to some nasty little games. Just to give one example, when asked about rumors that Obama might be a Muslim, she said that he was not, but

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 19, 2008, at 7:57 PM, authfriend wrote: I'm sure that he and I could sit down and cook up quite a list. I'd have to help him because he has MS and finds it hard to talk, much less write. For starters, I'm sure he'd include the fact that she claims that Florida and Michigan should be count

[FairfieldLife] Re: Exploring The Mechanics Of Judgment, Beliefs

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > Fascinating article, Vaj. Thanks for posting it. I > > > was particularly taken with: >

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course I noticed that Sweetie. Of course I read them. > Of course I saw your weak attempt at manipulation. Let's see now, by "weak attempt at manipulation," you're referring to the fact that I posted a piece from an Obam

Re: [FairfieldLife] God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Angela Mailander
So, we both read Sartre as teens, but I liked Camus better. I started reading these dudes when I was fourteen and attending a boarding school right outside of Paris, France. Where were you? On the whole, I agree with your assessment. Like you, Blake thought of the ego (he called it "the selfhoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread Vaj
On May 19, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Tom wrote: > Of course I noticed that Sweetie. Of course I read them. > Of course I saw your weak attempt at manipulation. > I'm not upset in the least that you, once again, > prove my premise. I *am* bothered, mildly, that you so > easily twist the truth for your own

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Behalf Of authfriend > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > I didn't see Hillary in Iowa because every time she was > > scheduled to come here, winter weather forced her to cancel. > > A

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 19, 2008, at 7:30 PM, authfriend wrote: Jeez, Judy, talk about "utterly idiotic." No, these kinds of vague complaints are tossed around about Hillary as if it were established fact that she's conducted herself badly, without actually saying what the conduct they're objecting to *is*. A

[FairfieldLife] Natural trans fats may be good for you

2008-05-19 Thread bob_brigante
http://tinyurl.com/5rervx Natural trans fats may be good for you Found in milk and yogurt, vaccenic acid -- a naturally occurring trans fat -- lowered cholesterol in rats, a Canadian study finds. By Susan Bowerman, Special to The Los Angeles Times May 19, 2008 Trans fats: We've been told t

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of authfriend > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 6:08 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clint

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 19, 2008, at 6:07 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > >> > >> I didn't see Hillary in Iowa because every time she was > >> scheduled to come here, winter w

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread Tom
Not an uncommon reaction and closely at the root of why she is a failure in her attempt at gaining the nomination. The more ya get to know her, the less there is to like. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't see Hillary in Iowa because every

[FairfieldLife] Re: Exploring The Mechanics Of Judgment, Beliefs

2008-05-19 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > Fascinating article, Vaj. Thanks for posting it. I > > > was particularly taken wit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Exploring The Mechanics Of Judgment, Beliefs

2008-05-19 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > Fascinating article, Vaj. Thanks for posting it. I > > was particularly taken with: > > > > > ...judgments often depend on whether the judging > > > p

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread Tom
Of course I noticed that Sweetie. Of course I read them. Of course I saw your weak attempt at manipulation. I'm not upset in the least that you, once again, prove my premise. I *am* bothered, mildly, that you so easily twist the truth for your own ends. Stupid your not. Immune to honesty you are.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 19, 2008, at 6:07 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > >> > >> I didn't see Hillary in Iowa because every time she was > >> scheduled to come here, winter

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Elizabeth Cotten, was: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Vaj
On May 19, 2008, at 6:43 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > Hey Vaj, yes thanks for the link. I haven't taken the time to really > check it out. Is RL playing an acoustic guitar? My favorite CDs are > his first two on acoustic. This is electric. Trancey electric. He loves the drone. So many hard

[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton better against McCain than Obama

2008-05-19 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "If you're a Karl Rove conspiracy theorist, get ready for some head > spinning as you try to figure out this one: maps produced by the > consulting firm Rove heads show that, right now, in a hypothetical > head-to-

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 6:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...' --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 19, 2008, at 6:07 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I didn't see Hillary in Iowa because every time she was scheduled to come here, winter weather forced her to cancel. A good friend went over to Mt. Pleasant to see her

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't see Hillary in Iowa because every time she was > scheduled to come here, winter weather forced her to cancel. > A good friend went over to Mt. Pleasant to see her and came > back inspired. He said that he do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Elizabeth Cotten, was: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey Vaj, yes thanks for the link. I haven't taken the time to really check it out. Is RL playing an acoustic guitar? My favorite CDs are his first two on acoustic. I never learned Freight Train before but I am building a show for a museum with a train theme. There are so many interesting refere

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread Rick Archer
I didn’t see Hillary in Iowa because every time she was scheduled to come here, winter weather forced her to cancel. A good friend went over to Mt. Pleasant to see her and came back inspired. He said that he doubted very much that anything could change his mind. He would be voting for her. Now, bas

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 19, 2008, at 10:08 AM, authfriend wrote: > > >> On May 19, 2008, at 8:20 AM, authfriend wrote: > >> > >>> He doesn't *want* to have to confront the fact, for > >>> instance, that the vast majority of those wh

[FairfieldLife] Clinton better against McCain than Obama

2008-05-19 Thread bob_brigante
"If you're a Karl Rove conspiracy theorist, get ready for some head spinning as you try to figure out this one: maps produced by the consulting firm Rove heads show that, right now, in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup, Hillary Clinton would be beating John McCain in the Electoral College. In

RE: [FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Cotten, was: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Cotten, was: God is a wuss On May 19, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Wow, thanks, Curtis, I'd

Re: [FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Cotten, was: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Vaj
On May 19, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Wow, thanks, Curtis, I'd never heard of Elizabeth Cotten before; she's wonderful -- everything about her. Still alive? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Cotten I hadn’t heard of her either, but my wife had. In fact, she used to be a folk

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 19, 2008, at 10:08 AM, authfriend wrote: On May 19, 2008, at 8:20 AM, authfriend wrote: He doesn't *want* to have to confront the fact, for instance, that the vast majority of those who have encountered Hillary close up have found her exactly the opposite of an "arrogant, insufferable b

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess if you're going to look at "God" as a "personal" > deity then your blog (than your post?) > makes some sense. But you're forgetting that MMY and the > Shankara tradition taught "God" as the impersonal. Exactly

[FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Cotten, was: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marek Reavis Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss Wow, thanks, Curtis, I'd never heard of Elizabeth Cotten before; she's wonderful -- everything

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess if you're going to look at "God" as a "personal" deity then your > blog makes some sense. But you're forgetting that MMY and the Shankara > tradition taught "God" as the impersonal. I always got a charge ou

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Marek Reavis
Wow, thanks, Curtis, I'd never heard of Elizabeth Cotten before; she's wonderful -- everything about her. Still alive? ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I thought a 'wuss' was always female, but I > > didn't know that you didn

Re: [FairfieldLife] God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Bhairitu
I guess if you're going to look at "God" as a "personal" deity then your blog makes some sense. But you're forgetting that MMY and the Shankara tradition taught "God" as the impersonal. I always got a charge out of reading the free books ISKON was handing out, especially their Srimad Bhagavat

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
that is really neat I like old Black Ladies curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I thought a 'wuss' was always female, but I > didn't know that you didn't like black, older > women. > > What's up with that? Black older women are adorable, especially this one: http://youtube.c

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
God is the intelligence that makes the banana and the banana peel. Yet religion in essence as in the spirit of or people in is also God. Yet Religion in the action of controlling, of limiting, of closing the vision may be the result of genetic engineering to make blue and pink banana peels...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
Remember a great man once said the government reflect the consciousness of the people. I have seen how that part of my mentality that is BUSHIAN has made as much of a mess of my own life as George Has made of the world. I believe in Kicking ass. I believe in full force attacks. If someon

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am with you on appreciating nature Louis. I'll bet you are as aware as I am of nature's dark side. But since I'm having a charmed life by the luck of the draw I am inclined to agree with another great guy named Louis: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vnR

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think we as humans like to look for patterns and extrapolate our > > intelligence onto nature. > > Agreed. > > Whether we do it through a belief in God > > or in science, the motive is the same, and e

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" > wrote: > > > > I don't think the motive is the same, opposite in fact. > > I sum it up as; Religion claims to explain reality whereas > > science is an *attempt* to

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > > His father had promised him a car for his birthday. Dad was > > n

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
> > I thought a 'wuss' was always female, but I > didn't know that you didn't like black, older > women. > > What's up with that? Black older women are adorable, especially this one: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tm5-WdB_aVE&feature=related Make sure you get to her doing "Freight Train" at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What the hell is 'karma' - you TM teachers are so > > > full of yourselves that it's pathetic. > > > > > That is a misquote. You are having trouble keeping > > people straight in this thread Richard. L

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > What the hell is 'karma' - you TM teachers are so > > full of yourselves that it's pathetic. > > > That is a misquote. You are having trouble keeping > people straight in this thread Richard. Let me > smell that cup you are drinking from... > So, you believe people create their own 'karma'

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > Why is it that you TM teachers are so ignorant > > and crass? > > Curtis wrote: > As far as your trying to get me to give you one of > the many versions of the God idea, my answer is crack > a book. > So, you're a wuss. I thought so - all hat and no cattle. [snip] > I am ignorant about m

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curtis wrote: > > I do believe that people create their own Karma. > > [snip] > > Oh, come on, Curtis, you can do better than this. > > What the hell is 'karma' - you TM teachers are so > full of yourselve

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote: > I'll bet you are as aware as I am of > nature's dark side. > How much would you be willing to wager? So, now you're saying that 'God' is a black Mother - nature's 'dark side'? Does that make any sense? 'God' is 'dark nature', and a 'wuss'. I thought a 'wuss' was always female

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So, you can't define 'enlightenment' or 'God'. > > > > > I could give you many different versions of either > > belief from some of the various sources who hold > > such beliefs. > > > So, why not do s

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote: > I do believe that people create their own Karma. [snip] Oh, come on, Curtis, you can do better than this. What the hell is 'karma' - you TM teachers are so full of yourselves that it's pathetic. And to think that you once took philosophy courses at MUM. For what purpose? How

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
I am with you on appreciating nature Louis. I'll bet you are as aware as I am of nature's dark side. But since I'm having a charmed life by the luck of the draw I am inclined to agree with another great guy named Louis: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vnRqYMTpXHc My lack of belief in a deity is not m

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > So, you can't define 'enlightenment' or 'God'. > > > I could give you many different versions of either > belief from some of the various sources who hold > such beliefs. > So, why not do so? Instead of making fun of poor religious people, victims of an earthquake and a cyclone? Why is it

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What does one thing have to do with the other? As a TM teacher one would not be talking about this in this way. The planet is in big trouble because of man's free will. We do not even know if earth quakes can b

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
I always think of God as the visible and invisible. I think of God as Pure Consciousness or Divine Intelligence. Which for me means that the intelligence which determines the sky, the clouds, the earth, the planets, that which keeps all of this functioning to me that is what I call God. T

[FairfieldLife] Re: Exploring The Mechanics Of Judgment, Beliefs

2008-05-19 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RJ wrote: > What is 'desire'? > What is 'full-fillment' or 'Becoming'? Did you just start learning English today? If so, I think that would go some way to explaining your weird postings this afternoon.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Exploring The Mechanics Of Judgment, Beliefs

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > You've done nothing in this post except use > > circular logic, Vaj. > > Vaj wrote: > The idea of support of nature come from the > derivation of the Sanskrit word "dharma" > whose root "dhr" means "to support". > Maybe so, but you failed to point out that the word dharma has multiple mean

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > > His father had promised him a car for his birthday. Dad was > nowhere > > in sight. His mother gave him 5.00$, yet what he had receiv

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
> So, you can't define 'enlightenment' or 'God'. What are you talking about? You have me confused with another poster Richard. I could give you many different versions of either belief from some of the various sources who hold such beliefs. What does that have to do with anything? > > That's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
What does one thing have to do with the other? As a TM teacher one would not be talking about this in this way. The planet is in big trouble because of man's free will. We do not even know if earth quakes can be caused intentionally. I do not believe that God would ever cause suffering.

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
> I think we as humans like to look for patterns and extrapolate our > intelligence onto nature. Agreed. Whether we do it through a belief in God > or in science, the motive is the same, and either belief remains > full of holes when viewed superficially. Here I disagree. Science is not a b

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > As a TM teacher, you should be able to define > > 'God' and 'enlightenment', > > Curtis wrote: > Why does it always have to do with sex with you > Richard? > Non sequitur. So, you can't define 'enlightenment' or 'God'. That's nothing to be ashamed of Curtis, so why not just admit it, ins

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > > > So following this weather based theology we > > > > can assume that God absolutely hates China > > > > and dropped a huge earthquake on it's ass > > > > and despises Burma and sent them a nasty > > > > cyclone? > > > > > > Absolutely. He wasn't too keen on New Orleans, either. > > > E

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
I guess it is simply called appreciation. curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > His father had promised him a car for his birthday. Dad was nowhere in sight. His mother gave him 5.00$, yet what he had received was a grace from God that on his birthday the sun and the birds awakened

[FairfieldLife] Re: Circle Jerk

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > The last time I checked, a westerner had to have at > > least a letter of introduction in order to get an > > audience with a Shankaracharya. > > new wrote: > Better check again. I had a personal audience with > one, Puri, by just coming the the Math with no intent > or request for an audie

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > So following this weather based theology we can assume that God > > > a

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > His father had promised him a car for his birthday. Dad was nowhere > in sight. His mother gave him 5.00$, yet what he had received was a > grace from God that on his birthday the sun and the birds awake

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That one is topical. Pick from the list in the middle, > > I think he has a pretty damn good hit rate. > > > > I had never seen them,thanks for the hook up! The one called 'Wishing Well' is my fave, had m

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
> That one is topical. Pick from the list in the middle, > I think he has a pretty damn good hit rate. > I had never seen them,thanks for the hook up! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curtis wrote: > > So following this weather based theology we can > > assume that God absolutely hates China and dropped > > a huge earthquake on it's ass and despises Burma > > and sent them a nasty cyclo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Exploring The Mechanics Of Judgment, Beliefs

2008-05-19 Thread Vaj
On May 19, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Isn't this Fairfield Life in a nutshell? And isn't it the heart of the current discussion about what "becoming in tune with nature" might really mean? Doesn't it explain the tendency to excuse in Maharishi or Hillary the *same* actions o

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 19, 2008, at 8:20 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > He doesn't *want* to have to confront the fact, for > > instance, that the vast majority of those who have > > encountered Hillary close up have found her exactly

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > So following this weather based theology we can assume that God > > absolutely hates China and dropped a huge earthquake on it's ass > > and d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Circle Jerk

2008-05-19 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The last time I checked, a westerner had to have at > least a letter of introduction in order to get an > audience with a Shankaracharya. Better check again. I had a personal audience with one, Puri, by ju

[FairfieldLife] Re: Exploring The Mechanics Of Judgment, Beliefs

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > Isn't this Fairfield Life in a nutshell? > > > > And isn't it the heart of the current discussion > > about what "becoming in tune with nature" might > > really mean? Doesn't it explain the tendency to > > excuse in Maharishi or Hillary the *same* actions > > one would soundly condemn in anothe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Exploring The Mechanics Of Judgment, Beliefs

2008-05-19 Thread Vaj
On May 19, 2008, at 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Isn't this Fairfield Life in a nutshell? And isn't it the heart of the current discussion about what "becoming in tune with nature" might really mean? Doesn't it explain the tendency to excuse in Maharishi or Hillary the *same* actions one would s

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > His father had promised him a car for his birthday. Dad was > > nowhere in sight. His mother gave him 5.00$, yet what he had > > received was a grace from God that on his birthday the sun > > and the birds

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote: > So following this weather based theology we can > assume that God absolutely hates China and dropped > a huge earthquake on it's ass and despises Burma > and sent them a nasty cyclone? > As a TM teacher, you should be able to define 'God' and 'enlightenment', otherwise you're c

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
> His father had promised him a car for his birthday. Dad was nowhere in sight. His mother gave him 5.00$, yet what he had received was a grace from God that on his birthday the sun and the birds awakened him, the sweet smells of the divine filled the air and he knew without a doubt that there h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Exploring The Mechanics Of Judgment, Beliefs

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > Fascinating article, Vaj. Thanks for posting it. I > > > was particularly taken wi

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Sal wrote: > Her policies support neither empathy nor concern > with average Americans, as per the letter Rick > posted. > "Really, the entire future of the pro-choice movement rests on spitting in the eye of the strongest woman candidate in the history of the country, rather than waiting thr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 19, 2008, at 8:20 AM, authfriend wrote: He doesn't *want* to have to confront the fact, for instance, that the vast majority of those who have encountered Hillary close up have found her exactly the opposite of an "arrogant, insufferable bitch": friendly, warm, empathetic, deeply concerne

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry is a circle jerker

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Uh, Barry, you've just posted the mother of all circle jerks! You didn't define the term 'God', 'will', or even 'nature'. TurquoiseB wrote: > Recent discussions about "becoming in tune with the laws > of nature" have pointed out that Maharishi clearly was > using "laws of nature" and "the will

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The "Improved Behavior" Myth of TM

2008-05-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 19, 2008, at 8:09 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Start a new culture inside the movement based on forthright honesty. Honest science, openness, and merit. It is about integrity. People have a good sense about it that no amount of PR can skirt. Change is needed to go forward. Where did all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Burned hydrogen?

2008-05-19 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > wrote: > > Maybe Yes, maybe No. Try translating "water" > > into Sanskrit, and settle for that. > > uns. > > > > Well, 'jalam' is one of several words for 'wate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Circle Jerk Offs

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: > Circle jerk. No one I was conversing with was > able to step out of the circle. Few seemed to > recognize that the attributes they believe are > associated with the state of enlightenment were > *taught* to them. > The TM teachers seem to be having a real problem with this. Ap

[FairfieldLife] Re: Exploring The Mechanics Of Judgment, Beliefs

2008-05-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > Fascinating article, Vaj. Thanks for posting it. I > > was particularly taken with: > > > > > ...judgments often depend on whether the judging > > > p

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
Maybe God is a Democrat authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > Even when God *Himself* steps in and preaches a few sermons > in the form of hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, typhoons, > plagues, famines and the like, no one seems to pay at

Re: [FairfieldLife] God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
I once knew an atheist who believed that God was just something that was created to control people. He believed that the word God was used to keep people stuck in churches and waiting for the will of God. Then one day his birthday something happened extra ordinary, I don't know if it was wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > Heehee. A one-two dose of RELY RELY STOOPID. > > > > Neither of these dorks managed to notice that the piece > > I posted in defense of Cli

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