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Where's you evidence that Girish has any control over any property on the MUM
campus?
L
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I can't wait f
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"That state which transcends speech and thought is mouna. That which
is, is mouna. How can mouna be explained in words? Sages say that
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing the Great Transcendent
"That state which transcends speech and thought is mouna. That which is, is
mouna. How can mouna be explained in words? Sages say that the state in which
the tho
Illuminati
On 7/5/2014 9:09 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Every day is the 4^th of July for the illumined.
Independence Day.
It is true.
-Buck in the Dome
"That state which transcends speech and thought is mouna. That which
is, is mouna. How can mouna be explained in
Every day is the 4th of July for the illumined.
Independence Day.
It is true.
-Buck in the Dome
"That state which transcends speech and thought is mouna. That which is, is
mouna. How can mouna be explained in words? Sages say that the state in which
the thought"I"(the ego) does not rise e
essages begin with RE: and begin and end on one single line?
>
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*Subject:* [Fairfie
Like.
"That state which transcends speech and thought is mouna. That which is,
is mouna. How can mouna be explained in words? Sages say that the state
in which the thought"I"(the ego) does not rise even in the least, alone
is Self (swarupa) which is silence (mouna). That silent Self alone is
I can't wait for Girish to sell MUM and the Domes out from under you.
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing the Gre
"That state which transcends speech and thought is mouna. That which is, is
mouna. How can mouna be explained in words? Sages say that the state in which
the thought"I"(the ego) does not rise even in the least, alone is Self
(swarupa) which is silence (mouna). That silent Self alone is God; Self
On 5/21/2014 9:44 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Thanks, Richard, I'm sure Descartes was a lovely fellow, but I'm
sticking with the Buddhists and Hindus (-:
>
There is only one non-dual philosophical system in India, Advaita
Vedanta founded by the Adi Shankara. The
On 5/20/2014 2:42 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Brilliant Share, brilliant! How about this one."Life is what you
live"therefore "what you live is life!"
>
After reviewing this thread, it is remarkable how accurate Share was
with her definition of consciousness, c
Thanks, Richard, I'm sure Descartes was a lovely fellow, but I'm sticking with
the Buddhists and Hindus (-:
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:59 PM, "'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com
[FairfieldLife]" wrote:
On 5/20/2014 9:53 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
On 5/20/2014 9:53 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
I go with: consciousness exists. Which leads me to think that whatever
seems to exist, I assume it too is consciousness.
>
Addressing the important issues!
The philosopher Rene Descartes put forth a famous theory - "/
Brilliant Share, brilliant! How about this one."Life is what you
live"therefore "what you live is life!"
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Richard, I go with: consciousness exists. Which leads me to think that
whatever seems to exist, I assume it too is consciousness. Wh
Richard, I go with: consciousness exists. Which leads me to think that whatever
seems to exist, I assume it too is consciousness. What do you think? Have I
once again gone round the bend?
On Monday, May 19, 2014 11:45 PM, "'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com
[FairfieldLife]" wrote:
On 5/18/2014 7:31 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
> R:"This duality, which consists of subject and object, is a mere
> vibration of consciousness. Pure consciousness is ultimately
> objectless; hence, it is declared to be eternally without relations."
> - Mandukya Karika I
On 5/18/2014 7:31 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
> R: But, in the ancient Indian view, everything that exists - matter
> and material - arise from the field of consciousness. The brain is a
> product of consciousness, not vice-versa.
>
> C: This is where Maharishi's teachi
On 5/18/2014 7:31 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
R: If consciousness was just an epiphenomenon of the brain and the
nervous system it would not be a fundamental of nature - it would just
be an effect, not a cause.
C: Yes and we have a lot of evidence for our awareness b
On 5/18/2014 7:31 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
If a person is not conscious, there would for him be no knowledge of
any kind, philosophical, religious, or scientific. This is not a
matter of debate because everyone already knows it to be a fact of
common experience.
C:
Interestingly, neither of you addressed my point about Xeno's paragraph, much
less refuted it.
Xeno is obviously not a TM-TB. When he describes his own experience, he's
clearly not "rehashing" Maharishi's teaching. But the paragraph I quoted from
his post (below) is an instance of "Knowledge
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On 5/17/2014 8:11 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
The first paragraph here is a good example of what Maharishi meant by
"Knowledge is structured in consciousness."
>
If a person is not conscious, there would f
On 5/17/2014 8:11 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
The first paragraph here is a good example of what Maharishi meant by
"Knowledge is structured in consciousness."
>
If a person is not conscious, there would for him be no knowledge of any
kind, philosophical, religious, or s
The first paragraph here is a good example of what Maharishi meant by
"Knowledge is structured in consciousness."
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
While alive, everybody has experience, consciousness. So 'something' is making
the content of experience visible. There is always a '
I think that you'll find that people who have been practicing TM since they
were 10 for 50 years now, find MMY's exposition still fresh and new.
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote:
>
> Not really...
>
> Many times he didn't want to confuse people who weren't at the level
The best source for this type of thing is 'Mooji' who has lot's of videos on
the internet...
He follows the path of 'Self-Inquiry'...the path made by Ramama Maharishi; he
studied with Papaji, who studied with Ramama.
This is just the exploration in meditation concerning 'Who is Experiencing'...
Not really...
Many times he didn't want to confuse people who weren't at the level where they
could understand what he was saying...
Because people need to have an innocent first exerience, and don't know
anything about witnessing yet, unless they were studying some other spiritual
books like
Sounds kinda counter to everything I have ever heard MMY say...
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert wrote:
>
> When you can become aware of 'witnessing the witnessor' then you will be
> opening the door to Brahman Consciousness...
> �
> Herein lies the process of this witnessin
On Apr 4, 2011, at 6:04 PM, jpgillam wrote:
You can bet Maharishi would have loved that term.
He loved puns.
You can almost see the dollar signs in his eyes and hear that cha-
ching sound.
Thanks for the reminder of "open presence." You
had shared that term before, but I typically need
to hear something a few times for it to stick.
You can bet Maharishi would have loved that term.
He loved puns.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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>
> On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:38 PM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > I found [witnessing] incredibly liberating, a
> > > sense of having dropped all the baggage I had b
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > I found [witnessing] incredibly liberating, a
> > > sense of having dropped all the baggage I had bee
Let's take the question: "Who are you and what do you really do?" The
domain in which the question is asked, is the same domain in which it
is answered. That domain does not go away, it is not diminished,
that domain does not become dishonest.
Only in the context of an ever-expanding self does
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing, was: Steve Martin of Wilmington
Answer to Rick's post:
Me: > >I
Answer to Rick's post:
Me: > >I think your example illustrates that
> the usefulness of these states is context dependent. In a situation
> like you mentioned, a detached silence is a real asset. But I
believe > that this state is not useful for making love.
>
Rick: > Our difference is that y
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wrote:
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> >
> > Alpha is a resting state activity and yes, its normally associated
> with waking state AND
> > dreaming state. However, with witnessing sle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > Alpha would not be dissociation because it is RESTING. Disociation
> implies watching
> > something *going on*. with Pure Concciousness, there
On Feb 26, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Vaj wrote:
no reason to hypothesize
no reason to not hypothesize that is. Dear Editor where are you when
we need you?
On Feb 26, 2008, at 6:24 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> http://youtube.com/watch?v=LFFMtq5g8N4
>
> The above video show Richard Wilber controlling ALL or ANY of his
> brainwaves -easily and AT WILL It made me think twice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> http://youtube.com/watch?v=LFFMtq5g8N4
>
> The above video show Richard Wilber controlling ALL or ANY of his
> brainwaves -easily and AT WILL It made me think twice about the
> importance this thread is giving to phys
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Alpha is a resting state activity and yes, its normally associated
with waking state AND
> dreaming state. However, with witnessing sleep, you see alpha
synchrony as well.
I believe this is the case with lucid dre
On Feb 26, 2008, at 5:22 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
>
> > However, I disagree that gamma activity is simply a matter of the
> > intellect dominating. Like some TM'ers argue that alpha activity
is of
> > major significance (not just a matter of rest) , some buddists
would
> > argue gamma acti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Ruth, you're not paying attention. Samadhi during TM is
characterized by increased alpha.
> It is also correlated, according to some preliminary research, with
descreased thalimic
> cortical feedback activity.
Ok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" ruthsimplicity@
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
ruthsi
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LFFMtq5g8N4
The above video show Richard Wilber controlling ALL or ANY of his
brainwaves -easily and AT WILL It made me think twice about the
importance this thread is giving to physiological parameters as "deep"
indicators of spirituality.
Edg
--- In FairfieldLife
On Feb 26, 2008, at 3:25 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Feb 25, 2008, at 1:09 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> > > I had a similar experience during a car accident many years ago.
> > Time
> > > slowed, no panic, and I could watch dispassi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Wit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Feb 25, 2008, at 1:09 PM, sparaig wrote:
> >
> > > > I had a similar experience during a car accident many years ago.
> > > Time
> > > > slowed,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Feb 25, 2008, at 1:09 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> > > I had a similar experience during a car accident many years ago.
> > Time
> > > slowed, no panic, and I could watch dispassionately. Not to minimize
> > > our experienc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" ruthsimplicity@
> wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > I had a similar experience during a car accident
Vaj wrote:
> If you dig a more Hindu trip, try Enlightenment
> Without God by Swami Rama.
Apparently this book is no longer in print. Is this a direct
quotation from the Swami's book? If so, there's no attribution
in your post.
> > > The witnessing of waking, sleeping and dreaming parallel
> >
Sandi Ego wrote (snipped):
witnessing is nothing more
than the first glimpses of ceding the individual ego
to the cosmic
ego. after awhile the cosmic ego predominates and the
individual ego
disappears. just as you said, it is all a matter of
integration. The
companion of silence which initiall
Vaj wrote:
> The witnessing of waking, sleeping and dreaming
> parallel the meditative states of the calm state
> (no thought, dreamless witnessing), movement of
> thought (dream state fabricating itself from
> thought forms) and collapse of dream/dreamless back
> to waking (or the death of w
Ruth wrote:
> I can't grok this. Can you recommend a reading?
>
The Mandukhya Upanishad is the keystone in the arch
of Shankara's Adwaita Vedanta. The scripture was made
famous by Gaudapadacharya, the teacher of the teacher
of Shankara. Gaudapada composed a famous Karika or
commentary on Munda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:01 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> >
> > > I still want someone to tell me what they believe are the
signs
> of
> > > "witnessing"
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> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing, was: Steve
> Martin of Wilmingto
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> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing, was: Steve
> Martin of Wilmington
>
>
>
> > It was as though I were in deep meditation
> throughout the whole dynamic,
> > noisy experience. Not withdrawn or passive in the
> least just
> > imperturbable.
&g
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> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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> On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:40 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subje
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing, was: Steve Martin of Wilmington
> It was as though I were in deep meditat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
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> > This thread has really brought up some interesting points.
Turq's
> > point about lucid dreaming and Vaj's description of different
> >
Who would have thought
that Yogananda would have a vibe like Bela
Lugosi, eh?
That's my vote for quote of the week. Thanks Turq.
--- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "curtisdeltablues"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > This thread has re
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> Well that was a little frightening. I have never heard Yagananda in
> "real life" before. Something of a downer. Kind of up there with my
> pundits are better than your pundits.
>
You should listen to the tape of Yogananda singing devotional songs.
That made a lastin
On Feb 25, 2008, at 9:20 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Way cool. Great find. Who would have thought
that Yogananda would have a vibe like Bela
Lugosi, eh?
ROFLOL. What a let down! I should've just stuck to the books! :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> This thread has really brought up some interesting points. Turq's
> point about lucid dreaming and Vaj's description of different
> varieties of sleep witnessing were especially fascinating for me.
>
> I think
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This thread has really brought up some interesting points. Turq's
> point about lucid dreaming and Vaj's description of different
> varieties of sleep witnessing were especially fascinating for me.
>
> I think
This thread has really brought up some interesting points. Turq's
point about lucid dreaming and Vaj's description of different
varieties of sleep witnessing were especially fascinating for me.
I think it is time to clear the whole thing up from the perspective of
an enlightened master. And you'
On Feb 25, 2008, at 6:51 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:01 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
>
> > I still want someone to tell me what they believe are the signs of
> > "witnessing" sleep. Whatever the stage of
On Feb 25, 2008, at 7:46 PM, abutilon108 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Vaj, I have a question about an experience I have at times during
sleep (or is it during waking?). I'm curious how you would interpret
it. Usually it happens after I've awakene
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Vaj, I have a question about an experience I have at times during
sleep (or is it during waking?). I'm curious how you would interpret
it. Usually it happens after I've awakened during the night and don't
fall back to sleep.
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>>
I had a similar experience during a car accident many years ago.
Time slowed, no panic, and I could watch dispassionately. Not to
minimize our experiences, but I would think this is somewhat common
in highly stressful situations.
>>
I believe so.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:01 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
>
> > I still want someone to tell me what they believe are the signs
of
> > "witnessing" sleep. Whatever the stage of the sleep.
> >
> > Vaj?
>
>
> The witnessing o
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:01 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
>
> > I still want someone to tell me what they believe are the signs of
> > "witnessing" sleep. Whatever the stage of the sleep.
> >
> > Vaj?
>
>
> The witnessing of
On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:01 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
I still want someone to tell me what they believe are the signs of
"witnessing" sleep. Whatever the stage of the sleep.
Vaj?
The witnessing of waking, sleeping and dreaming parallel the
meditative states of the calm state (no thought,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm just finding myself more like Curtis these days,
> open to *many* different interpretations of experiences
> that I once saw only one interpretation of -- the one
> I had been taught to consider the only interpret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Feb 25, 2008, at 1:09 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> > > I had a similar experience during a car accident many years ago.
> > Time
> > > slowed, no panic, and I could watch dispassionately. Not to
minimize
> > > our experiences,
On Feb 25, 2008, at 1:09 PM, sparaig wrote:
> I had a similar experience during a car accident many years ago.
Time
> slowed, no panic, and I could watch dispassionately. Not to minimize
> our experiences, but I would think this is somewhat common in highly
> stressful situations. On the othe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote:
> > >
> > > Witnessing is not a dissassociative state in which different
> > > aspects of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote:
> >
> > Witnessing is not a dissassociative state in which different
> > aspects of the personality are fragmented from one another.
> > It's a natural e
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" ruthsimplicity@
wrote:
> >
>
> > I had a similar experience during a car accident many years ago.
Time
> > slowed, no panic, and I could watch dispassionately. N
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote:
> >
> > Witnessing is not a dissassociative state in which different
> > aspects of the personality are fragmented from one another.
> > It's a natural exper
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote:
>
> > Witnessing is not a dissassociative state in which different aspects
> of the
> > personality are fragmented from one another. It's a natural
> It was as though I were in deep meditation throughout the whole dynamic,
> noisy experience. Not withdrawn or passive in the least just
> imperturbable.
I'm glad you weighed in Rick. I think your example illustrates that
the usefulness of these states is context dependent. In a situation
l
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Witnessing is not a dissassociative state in which different
> aspects of the personality are fragmented from one another.
> It's a natural experience that arises when the silent aspect
> of life is open to awaren
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > States of consciousness have physiological signatures, regardless
> > of mental "content."
>
> Might I remind you that this is a hypothe
Tom T writes:
> It has been my experience over the last 18 months that the
> appreciation is the key rather than the witnessing. The understanding
> that has emerged is that the outward stroke of this appreciation is
> the continual deepening of the appreciation. The inward stroke (or
> curving bac
TurguoiseB writes:
At this point I don't think that there IS anything that
one can "do" to bring this appreciation of witnessing
about. It's not up to "me." And it's not up to any "outside
agency" such as "God." It is just what is. Sometimes it's
noticeable, sometimes it's not, and it Really D
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jul 28, 2005, at 9:24 AM, authfriend wrote:
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> > Oh, good heavens, not at all. There's no question
> > that waking, dreaming, and sleeping have distinct
> > physiological signatures; that was well established
> > before
On Jul 28, 2005, at 9:24 AM, authfriend wrote:
> Oh, good heavens, not at all. There's no question
> that waking, dreaming, and sleeping have distinct
> physiological signatures; that was well established
> before TM even came on the scene.
I believe, given the context of the conversation, he w
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> > On Jul 28, 2005, at 8:01 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >>
>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > [Sparaig wrote:]
> > > Allof these things appear to me to be contained in MMY's theory
> > > about progression in CC...
> >
> > Especia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Jul 28, 2005, at 8:01 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> States of consciousness have physiological signatures, regardless
> >> of mental "cont
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > States of consciousness have physiological signatures, regardless
> > of mental "content."
>
> Might I remind you that this is a hypothe
On Jul 28, 2005, at 8:01 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> States of consciousness have physiological signatures, regardless
>> of mental "content."
>
> Might I remind you that this is a hypotheis that has been
> taught to you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> States of consciousness have physiological signatures, regardless
> of mental "content."
Might I remind you that this is a hypotheis that has been
taught to you, one that you hope is true but do not know
is true?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Jul 28, 2005, at 12:58 AM, sparaig wrote:
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> > Of course, there's debate about whether or not chakras are part of
> > the Vedic tradition in the first place. I want to see research on
> > what each of these "types" of wi
On Jul 28, 2005, at 12:58 AM, sparaig wrote:
> Of course, there's debate about whether or not chakras are part of
> the Vedic tradition in the first place. I want to see research on
> what each of these "types" of witnessing etails, physiologically
> speaking...
There is very little that remains
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Especially the correlation between noticing
> the witnessing and the lower level of activity
> (sitting on the terrace at twilight as opposed
> to moving furniture in Barry's case, and sitting
> in the car driving aroun
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > I'm wondering whether there might be a better m
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Jul 27, 2005, at 2:24 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> > I'm wondering whether there might be a better model
> > for witnessing than a simple binary ON/OFF switch.
> > How about more of a rheostat control? You move the
> > slid
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >
> > > You've had witnessing 24/7 for the past sever
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