Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Edit Definition" in the expression's contextual menu. After > that, all that was needed was for me to position the item exactly where I > wanted it and, (most importantly, I think) make sure the multi-measure rest > was wide enough on its staff system that the number didn'

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
H. That may account for everything. I'll go back in and test that this afternoon. However, my situation is that I have an 8-bar section between double pars. The "To Coda" happens at the end of the 7th bar. I want it to show a 7-bar mm rest with the "To Coda" carefully placed at the righ

[Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-30 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I have a problem I just can't figure out. I am using F2014, but it might be the same in earlier releases. My problem is my score has Sign ... To Coda ... D.S. al coda ... Coda. As far as I can tell, all 4 of those marks have exactly the same settings (Show on top staff only). The only differe

Re: [Finale] I'm changing my opinion about scanning

2014-01-29 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I have not seen that particular bug, so I cannot say for certain if it is fixed. I haven't scanned enough different music to say for certain that I should have stumbled on that I just scanned a 5 page etude that has LOTS of notes (flute + grand staff for piano). The only "pitch" problems happ

[Finale] I'm changing my opinion about scanning

2014-01-28 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I have spent a lot of time the past 10 days assessing the progress of the music scanning software. I last used these products about 7 years ago and lost interest because they were just too limited. I couldn't find any cases where it was faster to scan than to just enter from scratch. After d

Re: [Finale] Anybody having any success with scanning?

2014-01-23 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Clif, Thanks for sharing. That's a different approach than I had considered. I may give that a try this weekend. I am struck by the observation that part of your process involves things that are absolutely inexcusable for today's software to not already deal with. Specifically, straightenin

Re: [Finale] Anybody having any success with scanning?

2014-01-23 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I don't expect perfection, but I think it is reasonable to expect that I shouldn't have to make edits to every single measure where the scanning software has missed something important (ties, repeats, slurs, articulations, got the rhythms wrong, etc.) On 1/23/2014 5:14 PM, Vosbein, Terry wrote

Re: [Finale] Anybody having any success with scanning?

2014-01-22 Thread Craig Parmerlee
That does seem to be the experience of the majority. However, the vendors claim great success and apparently some people are finding it good enough to use, at least occasionally. If there are hardware/software/parameter combinations that improve the results, I'd like to discover that because

Re: [Finale] Anybody having any success with scanning?

2014-01-22 Thread Craig Parmerlee
When you say it scans "pretty well", do you mean that most of the time it accurately recognizes these things: * Key sigs * Meter marks * Dotted notes and ties * Slurs * Repeats and endings * Common dynamics and hairpins * Multi-measure repeats and doesn't add a bunch of extraneous notes you have

Re: [Finale] Anybody having any success with scanning?

2014-01-22 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I used a variety of scan formats and they all produced identical results. One was a 600 BPI TIFF grey scale. It is hard to believe that the scanner model would make such a difference because the image at 600 BPI is extremely crisp on my scanner (which happens to be a Brother. I did some tests

[Finale] Anybody having any success with scanning?

2014-01-22 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I know this is an old topic that has been batted around many times. I have owned several of the scanning products (Smartscore, Photoscore, and SharpEye). The last time I used any of them was about 7 years ago. Of the 3, I could sometimes get marginal results with SharpEye, but usually there w

[Finale] F2014 bug: articulations sometimes don't work at some zoom levels

2014-01-17 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Has anybody experienced this? Working in scroll most at zoom level 2 (Ctrl-2) on a Windows 7 system, I kept getting into a case where I couldn't apply articulations. It seemed to happen if I was working on notes toward the left of the screen. I clicked on the notes with a hot key down and go

Re: [Finale] [OT] "range" of malletkat?

2014-01-13 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Yes, the chime patch seems to be very good on the MalletKat, regardless of the sound engine. Chimes have such a distinctive harmonic series that it is relatively ease to get that to sound authentic. Same for oboe. If the Kat is a model that has the Kurzweil sound engine, there will be lots of

Re: [Finale] [OT] "range" of malletkat?

2014-01-13 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Regarding notation, if the controller is segmented for several different tonal voices with the idea that the player would alternate from one voice to another, then I would put each voice on its own treble clef staff, and set the octave to put the notes mostly on the staff for ease of reading.

Re: [Finale] Garritan Sale

2013-12-03 Thread Craig Parmerlee
If I could insert my own reverb on a track by track basis ... If I could insert my own compressors ... If I could use a transient shaper VST ... It could sound a lot more like what people are accustomed to hearing. Hopefully in some Finale release soon. On 12/3/2013 2:37 PM, Williams, Jim w

Re: [Finale] Garritan Sale

2013-12-03 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I agree 100% with what Chuck said. Without tweaking, it is pretty lame. I struggle with the volume levels. I really have to work to get anything heard in the mix. Spreading out the stereo field helps a lot. Adjusting the way Finale interprets articulations, especially the marcato mark, helps

Re: [Finale] Notion and Presonus

2013-11-20 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 11/20/2013 4:36 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: > Steinberg is developing their own notation program, Avid has Sibelius > to go along with ProTools, Presonus bought up Notion, so the only > independent notation program is Finale. I had missed the news about Presonus and Notion. That is very inte

Re: [Finale] Layoffs and reorganization announced at MakeMusic

2013-11-20 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 11/20/2013 9:07 PM, terry cano wrote: > This is my opinion only guys. > I can happily do my projects in F2008 and you can also. Yes, there are some > additions that would be nice but the fact is we are dealing with a system, > music notation, that was created many years ago and hasn't change

Re: [Finale] Layoffs and reorganization announced at MakeMusic

2013-11-20 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 11/20/2013 4:36 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: > My first thought when reading about the reorganization at MakeMusic is > that the new owners, being venture capitalists and not software > developers, are looking to reshape the Finale team so they can make it > more marketable to another company s

Re: [Finale] Layoffs and reorganization announced at MakeMusic

2013-11-20 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 11/20/2013 3:19 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > The likelihood that the Steinberg product will both A) meet its > (unoffiicial mind you) release date target ... > > If they are saying now 18 months, then if it is one of the extremely few > planned software projects lucky enough to actually see the

Re: [Finale] Layoffs and reorganization announced at MakeMusic

2013-11-20 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Dannewitz wrote: > On Nov 20, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > >> On 11/20/2013 11:15 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: >>> I think both finale and Sibelius are pretty much the top of what you can do >>> with notation. I don't really know what people expect ot

Re: [Finale] Layoffs and reorganization announced at MakeMusic

2013-11-20 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 11/20/2013 11:15 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > I think both finale and Sibelius are pretty much the top of what you can do > with notation. I don't really know what people expect other than little > refinements to the programs in each version. Everything about the process of notation can be made

Re: [Finale] Layoffs and doubling down

2013-11-20 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 11/20/2013 10:40 AM, Richard Yates wrote: > That's a good possibility. Just be sure I was not missing something I looked > up "double down." I think they liked the connotations of the word being > something like "bold and decisive" but looked no further (like in a > dictionary). The closest defi

Re: [Finale] Layoffs and reorganization announced at MakeMusic

2013-11-20 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Obviously they want to keep their dirty laundry inside the company, which is understandable. It is also understandable that after investing so much to fund that 2.5 year hiatus between products, the owners really couldn't chance shaking things up before the product launch. The fact that they d

[Finale] F2014 not copying triplets correctly

2013-11-20 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I have a 4/4 measure that consists of three 8th note triplets and a quarter note, and the first 8th note (in the first triplet) is actually an 8th rest. When I drag this to another staff or do a cut/paste everything goes haywire. Finale is interpreting the first elements as a SIXTEENTH NOTE tr

Re: [Finale] F2014 bug: Articulations bleed through staff styles

2013-11-14 Thread Craig Parmerlee
er > > > > > On Thu Nov 14, at ThursdayNov 14 4:17 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > >> If you have articulations in a measure where you apply a staff style >> (e.g. slash notation), the articulations bleed through. This is a new >> bug with 2014. never happened o

Re: [Finale] F2014 bug: Articulations bleed through staff styles

2013-11-14 Thread Craig Parmerlee
. On 11/14/2013 10:54 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 14, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: >> >> Why would you want to show an accent when the note doesn't show? > Slash notation drum part might need accents on some

Re: [Finale] F2014 bug: Articulations bleed through staff styles

2013-11-14 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Why would you want to show an accent when the note doesn't show? An accent just sitting there by itself doesn't have any context. Accent WHAT? All I know is it never did this at 2012 and I didn't change anything in my staff style definition. On 11/14/2013 5:37 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote: > >

Re: [Finale] F2014 bug: Articulations bleed through staff styles

2013-11-14 Thread Craig Parmerlee
he articulations? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: >> >> If you have articulations in a measure where you apply a staff style >> (e.g. slash notation), the articulations bleed through. This is a new &g

[Finale] F2014 bug: Articulations bleed through staff styles

2013-11-14 Thread Craig Parmerlee
If you have articulations in a measure where you apply a staff style (e.g. slash notation), the articulations bleed through. This is a new bug with 2014. never happened on prior releases. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/

Re: [Finale] random thoughts on 2014

2013-11-11 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Yes, this is exactly what happens to me. I find myself sight-reading live performances a more often than I would like. I guess I am good enough at it that people are willing to call me in an emergency. Every time I trip up on one of these redundant accidentals non-parenthesized, I cuss the m

Re: [Finale] random thoughts on 2014

2013-11-10 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 11/10/2013 11:10 AM, David Froom wrote: > After entering a few challenging measures (accidental-wise), I ran the finale > cautionary accidental plugin. Though it created parentheses when I > specifically told it not to, after taking them out, I saw that the > accidentals do, indeed, stick. SU

Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files

2013-11-05 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Probably not a great answer, but assuming you have 2012 still installed, you could save as MusicXML, and open in 2014 that way. Once open in 2014, you could probably save it is 2012 format successfully if you wanted to do that. Of course you will lose some formatting through the MusicXML proc

[Finale] Finale 2014: Improved export to WAV, but ...

2013-11-04 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Kudos for the improvements on Export to Audio. In the past I couldn't complete the export at all for VST instruments in most cases. Now it seems to be completely reliable and quite fast. However, I would have hoped there would be an option to create separate WAV files for each staff line, so

Re: [Finale] Finale 2014

2013-10-15 Thread Craig Parmerlee
That is really a miserable ad. It doesn't mention any benefits at all, only a handful of obscure features -- not to mention spelling errors (pallet). Generally speaking, the Finale folks do a pretty good job of describing the benefits of the new releases at announcement time. I do not believ

Re: [Finale] What will be the state of notation products by 2016?

2013-09-22 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 9/17/2013 2:33 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > Translation of audio files into notation is a more sophisticated problem, one > that requires the kind of "jumping of levels" that computers are less good > at. I can think of a number of conditions in which notation decisions reside > in areas where

Re: [Finale] What will be the state of notation products by 2016?

2013-09-22 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 9/17/2013 9:50 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > But I am but surprised at the dismissive implications of calling Fin and > Sib "20-year-old products". Finale 2012 is 2 years old. It would be > laughable to compare it with version from 20 years ago, which I believe was > still (Mac) 2.6.x. For a lau

Re: [Finale] What will be the state of notation products by 2016?

2013-09-22 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 9/17/2013 8:09 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > The version of MuseScore that I tried out 2 years ago was nowhere near > Fin/Sib, but it has been and continues to be moving faster than any of > them. And I disagree that it is not innovative. It's just that the > innovations that are added seem to b

Re: [Finale] What will be the state of notation products by 2016?

2013-09-18 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Regardless of whether we all can come together on the meaning of "vaporware", wouldn't it be cool if the notation industry had a degree of standardization and openness such that we could use a mixture of tools, as the need fit? In the process of recording, I might use dedicated hardware at the

Re: [Finale] What will be the state of notation products by 2016?

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 9/17/2013 2:18 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: > I think Steinberg notation software is, at this point, the poster boy for > "100% > vaporware." They put out a video with demos made on a totally different > product, for goodness' sake! > > I wish them only the best, and hope the ultimate product doe

Re: [Finale] What will be the state of notation products by 2016?

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Just for the record, I also want most of the things you listed. And I think you identified the nub of the problem. As Finale (or any other notation product) exists today, it is in fact a zero sum game because it is a closed system where only MakeMusic (and a few plug-in developers) can delive

Re: [Finale] What will be the state of notation products by 2016?

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 9/17/2013 8:19 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: > On 2013-09-17 07:05, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > >> 1) In 2013 I shouldn't still have to fiddle with layouts on my parts. >> How many Finale releases have we seen that bragged about great new >> algorithms that avoid collis

Re: [Finale] What will be the state of notation products by 2016?

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 9/17/2013 7:30 AM, Steve Parker wrote: > Maybe I'm alone in not wanting every program to do everything.. Again I would look at the parallel in the DAW universe. DAWs, per se, don't do that much. They are essentially "frameworks" that provide a basic set of capabilities needed by anybody invo

Re: [Finale] What will be the state of notation products by 2016?

2013-09-16 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 9/16/2013 1:36 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Honestly though, what sort of "breakthroughs" are you wanting? I'd > rather see refinements of stuff that is already in there but doesn't > work well. Like audio to pitch, the whole parts thing in Finale, > making play back for scores better, maybe e

Re: [Finale] What will be the state of notation products by 2016?

2013-09-16 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 9/16/2013 6:07 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: > But I expect that if it can weather the current financial woes, Avid > will continue to develop Sibelius. Certainly if one can say that > Sibelius is a mature cash cow that doesn't need any more development, > the same can be said for Finale, yet we

[Finale] What will be the state of notation products by 2016?

2013-09-15 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Just looking for opinions and thoughtful speculation. Finale had to go private to get an infusion of capital. But they seem to be nearing a new product release that has the potential to put them on a more solid footing. Avid acquired Sibelius, and that company seems to be in a real mess at th

Re: [Finale] "Export to Audio File" dialog box inconsistent

2013-09-14 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I did some additional testing this evening with the System Monitor turned on. There is no memory problem. It never pages at all, and there is always more than 3GB available. It is the CPU that goes through the roof. I tried a moderately complicated score under several conditions. This score

Re: [Finale] This item will be available on November 28

2013-09-13 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I'm pretty sure it is about the new release. The text description is just copied from the prior version, which has been on the market a long time. It would make no sense to write a Finale 2012 book at this stage. Also note that the book cover clearly indicates "Finale 2014". Here is the 2012 ve

Re: [Finale] "Export to Audio File" dialog box inconsistent

2013-09-13 Thread Craig Parmerlee
What you describe is certainly within the realm of possibility. I spent a bit of time earlier in my career modeling the behavior of large-scale mainframes, and this involved a branch of science called "queuing theory". There very definitely can be "knee of the curve" phenomena where everything

[Finale] This item will be available on November 28

2013-09-13 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/finale-2014-mark-johnson/1116075876?ean=9780981473178 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] "Export to Audio File" dialog box inconsistent

2013-09-13 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I don't think the speed of my machine is an issue. It is a dual core AMD running Win7 64-bit, with 6GB of physical RAM. There are certainly faster machines around, but this one is feast enough. The first 75% of the file is generated very quickly, then it grinds to a halt. I had this same pr

Re: [Finale] "Export to Audio File" dialog box inconsistent

2013-09-12 Thread Craig Parmerlee
My symptoms are exactly like yours, except a lot more extreme. That is to say, the display usually freezes somewhere around the 70% point. If I watch the actual file size, it grows rapidly (at an expected rate) up to the point when the display freezes. But from that point onward, the file gr

Re: [Finale] "Export to Audio File" dialog box inconsistent

2013-09-12 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Does this feature actually work for other people? I can only use this for very small files -- say 100 measures or less. Anything larger and the program gets stuck. It generates the first minute or two of music very fast and then grinds to a halt. I suppose if I left it running for a couple

Re: [Finale] I notice that there is still no Finale update

2013-09-05 Thread Craig Parmerlee
trary release schedule? > > Sent from my iSomething > -- > Eric Dannewitz > Musician/Polymath/Evil Genius > http://www.ericdannewitz.com > >> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: >> >> Well, "some schedule" is over 2 years now. There co

Re: [Finale] I notice that there is still no Finale update

2013-09-05 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 9/5/2013 3:02 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: > On 9/5/2013 1:38 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: >> Well, "some schedule" is over 2 years now. There comes a point where a >> company ceases to be in business if they aren't shipping a product. >> > Remember what th

Re: [Finale] I notice that there is still no Finale update

2013-09-04 Thread Craig Parmerlee
work better than adhere to some release schedule > > NOT Sent from my Hackintosh > -- > Eric Dannewitz > Musician/Polymath/Evil Genius > http://www.ericdannewitz.com > > On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:47 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > >> Makemusic said they would have

[Finale] I notice that there is still no Finale update

2013-09-04 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Makemusic said they would have a new release in 2013. The normal pattern would be to announce new releases in May or June so as to get into the pipeline for the new school year. That did not happen. Another normal pattern is to not announce anything during August because much of the world is o

Re: [Finale] 2011 formatting question

2013-05-26 Thread Craig Parmerlee
It seems to me that Speedy entry remains in the data entry mode WITHOUT FORMATTING as long as it thinks you are still entering notes. You have to click on a whole different region of the score to get it out of that mode, and then it will proportion everything. I assume this was for efficiency

Re: [Finale] "Bravura"

2013-05-24 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Bravura seems like a nice font, but that is hardly a breakthrough. The SMuFL idea seems like something the industry should get behind, as an annex to MusicXML -- making MusicXML files that much more transportable. Again, a nice development, but not really a huge breakthrough. At this stage,

Re: [Finale] Are the "free" (bundled) Garritan sounds the same as the GPO and Concert Band sounds?

2013-05-15 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Does anybody have any insights -- or even educated guesses -- where Garritan stands regarding continued development? They were acquired by Makemusic, so that raises questions, at least about how this might affect product cycles. I note that PGMusic (Band In A Box) has been on a product cycle o

[Finale] Are the "free" (bundled) Garritan sounds the same as the GPO and Concert Band sounds?

2013-05-15 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I have the Garritan J&BB library, and of course the basic library that comes with Finale 2012. I am getting better at making the playback sound halfway authentic for big bands. So yesterday I decided to work on a trombone quartet piece. For this, I used the bundled sounds: the three solo teno

Re: [Finale] colors

2013-05-12 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I know this isn't what you are asking for (i.e. not a solution internal to Finale), but it is really quick and easy to generate all your parts as PDF, using the PDF Creator free software. That is a good thing to do without respect to the desire for colors. But once your parts are in PDFs, you

Re: [Finale] Darcy and the Secret Society Rule (but we knew that)

2013-05-06 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Wow. The few sound clips that appear on the interview sound very interesting. The description "21st century big band" might sound a bit highfalutin, but what I hear adds up to that description. It seems that the trend in big bands in the last 30 years was mostly about playing louder, faster,

Re: [Finale] Garritan band library - Avoiding simultaneous attacks

2013-05-05 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 4/24/2013 9:09 AM, Williams, Jim wrote: > 5.it is imperative to avoid simultaneous attacks. HP does that to some > extent, but I haven't taken the time to determine how much. How do you do that? Is that the setting in HP preferences - Tempo variations called "Don't randomize (exact timing)"?

Re: [Finale] Aria mixer behavior

2013-05-03 Thread Craig Parmerlee
the pan to put a voice ENTIRELY to one side or another. So from what I can surmise, you use the Aria player to assign instruments and to set up the reverb sends, but nothing else (unless you are tweaking the sound of a particular sample (EQ, etc.). Is that how others do it? On 5/3/2013 6:31

[Finale] Aria mixer behavior

2013-05-03 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I posted this on another thread, but maybe it deserves its own thread. I am looking for practical advice on how Aria (i.e. the Garritan sounds) relates to the normal Finale mixer window. It appears to me that if I use the faders on either one, they have an effect, but they are not linked. So i

Re: [Finale] Aria mixer behavior

2013-05-03 Thread Craig Parmerlee
As I am digging deeper into trying to get a realistic playback, I am struggling with the Aria mixer. I expected the fader levels to be static, like an un-motorized control surface. I want the dynamics to adjust up and down with the dynamic expressions I have entered in the score. But what I a

Re: [Finale] Garritan question - Big Band brass sounds

2013-05-03 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Thanks for the suggestion. But I can't get out of the starting gate. Where is this "articulation definition" window? Is that in document options, somewhere in HP settings or somewhere else? I can't find any reference to it in the documentation. On 5/3/2013 11:18 AM, Christopher Smith wrote

Re: [Finale] Garritan question - Big Band brass sounds

2013-05-03 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Hey, come to think of it, there are no cimbasso sounds on the Garritan libraries. How could they have missed that? :) I'm not doing many of the things you mentioned. I am using a little reverb, but I got frustrated when I couldn't control that from Aria. The Aria player has a tab for effects

[Finale] Garritan question - Big Band brass sounds

2013-05-03 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I have JABB V3 (the current version. I think the saxes and various basses are pretty good. Trumpets are horrendous -- sound more like a reed organ than a trumpet.. I have worked mostly with the individual trumpet sounds of the "notation - keyswitch" category. so maybe some of the other trump

Re: [Finale] F2012 HP doesn't apply swing timing to chord playback

2013-05-02 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Just write a simple piano part and hide the notation. >> >> Cheers, >> >> - DJA >> - >> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >> >> On May 2, 2013, at 1:19 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: >> >>> OK, this is probably a bug that has no fix, and maybe I'm

[Finale] F2012 HP doesn't apply swing timing to chord playback

2013-05-01 Thread Craig Parmerlee
OK, this is probably a bug that has no fix, and maybe I'm the only person in the world who thinks this is important. When writing for jazz piano, I usually just put in enough notes to suggest a style and let the piano player use his own comping skills, which are almost always better than anythi

Re: [Finale] F2012: How to stop chord playback for specific instruments?

2013-05-01 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I believe that turns off chord playback for ALL instruments. I want chord playback on my piano track because most of that track is just slash notation with chord names. The ScoreManager thing works to a degree. If you mute an instrument from the mixer window and then unmute it, that unmutes t

Re: [Finale] F2012: How to stop chord playback for specific instruments?

2013-05-01 Thread Craig Parmerlee
mist that some of these bugs will be cleaned up in the 2014 version. But if it is really an extensive rewrite ... well, I don't even want to think about the implications. On 5/1/2013 1:41 PM, Michael Mathew wrote: > Dear Craig Parmerlee, > > In the score manager each instrument h

Re: [Finale] F2012: How to stop chord playback for specific instruments?

2013-05-01 Thread Craig Parmerlee
mist that some of these bugs will be cleaned up in the 2014 version. But if it is really an extensive rewrite ... well, I don't even want to think about the implications. On 5/1/2013 1:41 PM, Michael Mathew wrote: > Dear Craig Parmerlee, > > In the score manager each instrument h

[Finale] F2012: How to stop chord playback for specific instruments?

2013-05-01 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I have a big band chart where the solo sections have the chords in numerous parts that optionally could solo. I don't want these chords to play back. I only want the chords to play back on the piano staff. I can't find any way to turn this off in a mass edit or global sort of way. I realize

Re: [Finale] Garritan JABB V2 versus V3

2013-04-24 Thread Craig Parmerlee
dent. On 4/24/2013 12:42 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > I bought JABB a few years back. I haven't had it installed for the last > several Finale releases because the supplied GPO voices were > sufficient. But I'm working on a project where I really need the > keyswitch voice

[Finale] Garritan JABB V2 versus V3

2013-04-23 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I bought JABB a few years back. I haven't had it installed for the last several Finale releases because the supplied GPO voices were sufficient. But I'm working on a project where I really need the keyswitch voices (muted trumpets). So I installed this software on my Windows 7 Finale 2012 sy

Re: [Finale] 2nd Quarter 2012 results

2012-08-19 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I think you are right that they might be burnishing the story a little. I suppose there is an argument that when they come out with a new release annually, some people might place an order before the June quarter ends, particularly if the company said "order now and you will get a free upgrade

[Finale] 2nd Quarter 2012 results

2012-08-19 Thread Craig Parmerlee
See http://www.virtual-strategy.com/2012/08/07/makemusic-reports-second-quarter-2012-results It includes the comment "Development efforts are well underway towards a mid-2013 launch of a modernized Finale product that takes advantage of current technology and workflows." My interpretation is t

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?

2012-08-09 Thread Craig Parmerlee
iscuss the word processor -- only the subject matter of the article. MakeMusic does not understand collaboration, period. On 8/9/2012 10:29 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: > On 2012-08-09 15:26, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > >> With MusicXML, you lose everything but the notes, basically. > You ha

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?

2012-08-09 Thread Craig Parmerlee
on is inherent with LibreOffice. On 8/7/2012 11:39 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: > On 2012-08-07 16:22, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > >> This loosely relates to the Dark Ages concept of file compatibility that >> the Finale folks have followed. It is never a good business model, when &g

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?

2012-08-07 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Like others, I wasn't even aware the product was still alive. About once a month somebody sends me a WPD , which of course I can't open. One of those guys is still using Windows 95. This loosely relates to the Dark Ages concept of file compatibility that the Finale folks have followed. It is

Re: [Finale] "Out of Range" Notes

2012-08-07 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Are you doing playback with Garritan or MIDI? MIDI ought to cover a very wide range. The Garritan files do seem to stop before the outer reaches of some instruments. I've noticed that on tuba and bass trombone for example. On 8/6/2012 9:35 PM, Neal Gittleman wrote: > Greetingsā€¦ > > Using F

Re: [Finale] Ties into second endings

2012-08-02 Thread Craig Parmerlee
mes I have to copy the entire > file contents to a new document to clean it out. > > Christopher > > On Wed Aug 1, at WednesdayAug 1 11:32 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > >> No, I could not find any way to flip the tie. I ended up just removing >> it because it was

Re: [Finale] Ties into second endings

2012-08-01 Thread Craig Parmerlee
No, I could not find any way to flip the tie. I ended up just removing it because it was worst than having no end-tie at all. The last note before the endings was second space with the stem up as normal. I didn't override anything. The tie to the right of the last measure before the endings

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?

2012-08-01 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 8/1/2012 5:22 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: > WordPerfect is very far from the people who originated it (several > iterations of ownership, actually) yet it remains a robust word > processing environment David, I was with you -- right up to that instant. I'm thinking if Finale follows the path

Re: [Finale] Ties into second endings

2012-08-01 Thread Craig Parmerlee
gt; > There have been times (perhaps with older updated files) where that doesn't > work, and I have to use a hand slur adjusted to resemble the ties. > > Chuck > > > On Jul 31, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > >> This is something that has always bugged me.

Re: [Finale] 1012B: Controlling automatic range detection

2012-07-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Absolutely. I love the feature, although I am generally familiar with instrument ranges. It is a very nice assist, but it would be even better if I could make a few adjustments to the instrument ranges. On 7/30/2012 12:30 PM, John Howell wrote: > Of course! But it is somewhat useful when I'v

[Finale] Ties into second endings

2012-07-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
This is something that has always bugged me. There are many cases where the last note before an ending ties, and the tie goes into the first note of BOTH the first and second ending. In fact, that is the normal case of a tie. In my view, it is invalid to right a tie going into the first endi

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?

2012-07-29 Thread Craig Parmerlee
thing like that. I cannot see myself ever producing a finished audio product within Finale, so I'd rather see them put that effort into fixing the many bugs and annoyances in the basic product. On 7/24/2012 3:04 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Craig P

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?

2012-07-20 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 7/20/2012 3:07 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: > > I know that when I taught a music theory class at a middle school a few > years ago I had the students download and use MuseScore. That was 10 > sales Finale didn't get. > > But because of the ease of use right out of the box, actually, many such >

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?

2012-07-20 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I wonder if anybody has any information or informed opinion abut the impact of MuseScore on the commercial products (Finale and Sibelius particularly). I cannot see MuseScore being a significant factor for professional composers, arrangers and copyists., but that is surely a small percentage o

Re: [Finale] F2012 gets really slow rendering WAV

2012-07-17 Thread Craig Parmerlee
d to an outboard digital recorder, or to Audacity > on another computer. > > Raymond Horton > Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra > Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC > Composer, Arranger > VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com > > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Cra

Re: [Finale] Advice on drum set notation

2012-07-16 Thread Craig Parmerlee
"all other layers" check the "Notes" box. That seems to work, but maybe somebody has a more straightforward approach. On 7/17/2012 1:07 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > There is a style of drum set notation that has slash notation in the > measures, but the punches are wri

Re: [Finale] Advice on drum set notation

2012-07-16 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I get what I need by modifying the definition for slash notation to show notes in all other layers, which is similar to your suggestion. Thanks. On 7/17/2012 1:24 AM, dershem wrote: > On 7/16/2012 10:07 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: >> There is a style of drum set notation that has sla

[Finale] F2012 gets really slow rendering WAV

2012-07-16 Thread Craig Parmerlee
If I have my instruments set to MIDI, I can render to WAV quickly. But if my instruments are set to VST, there seems to be a problem where the software bogs down slower and slower. If my score is only 75 measures, I can render, but if it is 120 measures, it gets so slow that I think it will p

[Finale] Advice on drum set notation

2012-07-16 Thread Craig Parmerlee
There is a style of drum set notation that has slash notation in the measures, but the punches are written as regular notes above the percussion staff. I can't figure out how to make this happen in Finale. I trued using a second voice for the punches, but if the measure is set to slash notati

Re: [Finale] 2012B: Controlling automatic range detection

2012-07-12 Thread Craig Parmerlee
eginner/Intermediate/Advanced". > > -Lee > > -Original Message- > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of > Craig Parmerlee > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:43 PM > To: Finale News List > Subject: [Finale] 1012B: Controlli

[Finale] 1012B: Controlling automatic range detection

2012-07-11 Thread Craig Parmerlee
The 2012B release has a nice feature that automatically highlights notes that Finale thinks are out of range. Previously there was a plug-in to do this. In the plug-in you could select beginner-intermediate-advanced to fine-tune the range. I have looked around and I cannot find any way to co

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