Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-15 Thread A-NO-NE Music
First of all, To be honest, I wasn't that much impressed with the samples, but for the money, I didn't feel it was a wast. GPO works better if no solo part, to my ear. I think I will still reach my two of K2600Rs for orchestra simulation, but GPO sure will be handy when I an on the load. Now

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-15 Thread Steve Gibons
Yes, it is horrible. But it runs very nice on my $350 Dell Dimension 2400. steve On Jun 15, 2005, at 4:55 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: First of all, To be honest, I wasn't that much impressed with the samples, but for the money, I didn't feel it was a wast. GPO works better if no solo part, to

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-12 Thread laloba2
and there is going to be a Tiger update soon, according to an email I received from Gary a few days ago. Hi Chuck, Thank you for your kind words...and thank you for the information that the Tiger update is on its way soon. That is good to know and will hopefully clear up some of

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-12 Thread Randolph Peters
My problem with GPO is the Kontact engine. It doesn't load many instruments before the sound cracks up on a Mac. I find Reason to be much more efficient. Mind you, Reason doesn't have those nice Keyboard Switches that GPO has where you can change samples (e.g., arco to pizz to trem. etc.)

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-12 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Karen, Darcy, Hiro et al, It seems you guys are likely to be right! GPO has been running overnight - without the Formac TV, and it and my Mac have remained stable, with the GPO usage remaining at about 16% in the activity monitor. So all those background crashes of the Formac software

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-12 Thread Chuck Israels
End of day report: Worked w/Finale GPO all day - no Formac TV, and a few minutes ago (about 6:30 PM), GPO choked up again. The Activity Monitor was showing that it was back to using 70% + of the CPU. Quit restart GPO - redo MIDI in Finale (only takes a couple of minutes) and again,

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-12 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Chuck Israels / 2005/06/12 / 09:32 PM wrote: Worked w/Finale GPO all day - no Formac TV, and a few minutes ago (about 6:30 PM), GPO choked up again. The Activity Monitor was showing that it was back to using 70% + of the CPU. Chuck, Next time, in Activity Monitor, highlight GPO which is

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-12 Thread A-NO-NE Music
I wrote: There is another way. Ooops. My finger slipped and it went out before finishing the sentence. Sorry! The other and more practical way is to run Shark against GPO if you have DevTool installed. I will see what I find when I get my hands on my copy of GPO :-) Tho I am so behind my

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-12 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Hiro, I'll do this the next time it starts to choke up, and I'll send you the report. I don't have that Shark thing you mentioned in the next email, and that is getting out of my experience, but if you will walk me through some of this stuff when you have a free moment, I'll try to

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-11 Thread dhbailey
Randolph Peters wrote: I'd like to add my data points that Tiger sometimes slows down to a crawl even when I'm only in the Finder. The fan starts revving and I can't tell what it thinks it is working on. Restarting seems to be the best solution so far. BTW, I'm not too impressed by the

[Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-11 Thread laloba2
Hi Chuck, I'm sure you've probably already done this but just in case...are you running the latest version of GPO Studio? (v. 1.2) Also, in addition to all of the great suggestions that Hiro and Darcy have given...you can also try opening your crash log files and seeing if there is some

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-11 Thread Chuck Israels
Dear Karen, As usual, your response is thorough, deeply knowledgeable, and generous! I'll try to answer a few of these things, and then I'll take the time to explore some of those that are beyond my everyday experience with this machinery. (How do people like you and Darcy have the room in

[Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi folks, I have asked about this before, and not been able to resolve the problem despite suggestions from Darcy and Hiro, so I simply put up with it and re-boot whenever necessary. But there's something wrong, and I think it has to do with GPO. I'd like to understand it better, so

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jun 10, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Gerald Berg wrote: Yah! Here too ---but reboot unnecessary -- quit GPO (still pain I know but much less than reboot) and start it up again -- that should fix it. Jerry Thanks, Jerry. I may have done that too - and forgotten that it's a short cut to

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Chuck Israels / 2005/06/10 / 01:40 PM wrote: I have asked about this before, and not been able to resolve the problem despite suggestions from Darcy and Hiro, so I simply put up with it and re-boot whenever necessary. But there's something wrong, and I think it has to do with GPO. I'd

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chuck, Jerry's right, just quit GPO Studio when that happens, and everything should go back to normal. Although I have only seen what you describe once, and that was on 10.3.9 (I'm waiting for 10.4.2 before installing Tiger). And I frequently leave GPO Studio running in the background

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jun 10, 2005, at 11:00 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Chuck Israels / 2005/06/10 / 01:40 PM wrote: I have asked about this before, and not been able to resolve the problem despite suggestions from Darcy and Hiro, so I simply put up with it and re-boot whenever necessary. But there's something

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Gerald Berg
I don't think Tiger is to blame for this. I'm on G5 1.6 3 gig RAM and OSX 10.39. Jerry On 10-Jun-05, at 2:00 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Chuck Israels / 2005/06/10 / 01:40 PM wrote: I have asked about this before, and not been able to resolve the problem despite suggestions from Darcy and

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jun 10, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Chuck, Jerry's right, just quit GPO Studio when that happens, and everything should go back to normal. Although I have only seen what you describe once, and that was on 10.3.9 (I'm waiting for 10.4.2 before installing Tiger).

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 10 Jun 2005, at 1:58 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Perhaps this is a problem of Kontact's integration on Mac OS. I keep hoping for updates (Kontact -whatever that is, and why should I have to know about it at all? - or Finale 2006) to solve this irritation. Garritan is -- effectively -- not

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chuck, Sometimes I am running Formac Studio TV in a corner of my monitor - watching dumb TV while I format parts. Other than that - Dragthing, Mail and Quickeys. If you're just doing parts, you don't need GPO playback anymore, right? Why not quit GPO Studio after extracting parts?

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jun 10, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 10 Jun 2005, at 1:58 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Perhaps this is a problem of Kontact's integration on Mac OS. I keep hoping for updates (Kontact -whatever that is, and why should I have to know about it at all? - or Finale 2006) to

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Gerald Berg / 2005/06/10 / 02:12 PM wrote: I don't think Tiger is to blame for this. I'm on G5 1.6 3 gig RAM and OSX 10.39. I see. Here is an interesting point. Both you and Chuck has more than 2GB RAM. Can GPO address more than 2GB RAM? Darcy? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music,

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jun 10, 2005, at 11:20 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Chuck, Sometimes I am running Formac Studio TV in a corner of my monitor - watching dumb TV while I format parts. Other than that - Dragthing, Mail and Quickeys. If you're just doing parts, you don't need GPO playback

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 2005/06/10 / 02:20 PM wrote: If you're just doing parts, you don't need GPO playback anymore, right? Why not quit GPO Studio after extracting parts? That will free up a lot of resources. While I am waiting for my GPO, this doesn't make sense to me. The nature of sample

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jun 10, 2005, at 11:33 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:Darcy James Argue / 2005/06/10 / 02:20 PM wrote: If you're just doing parts, you don't need GPO playback anymore, right?  Why not quit GPO Studio after extracting parts?  That will free up a lot of resources. While I am waiting for my GPO, this

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 10 Jun 2005, at 2:33 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: While I am waiting for my GPO, this doesn't make sense to me. The nature of sample playback engy is that it should not tax cpu at all when not playing. In an ideal world, yes, but obviously this isn't happening for Chuck. Also, remember

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 2005/06/10 / 02:41 PM wrote: Also, remember that because the samples are RAM-based, GPO studio could easily be sitting on 1 GB or more of physical memory, potentially increased memory swapping in other apps. Hmm, With his 3.5GB RAM.. Even legacy app usually utilize at least

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Gerald Berg
I wondered and I wondered ... why?:) Jerry On 10-Jun-05, at 2:26 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Gerald Berg / 2005/06/10 / 02:12 PM wrote: I don't think Tiger is to blame for this. I'm on G5 1.6 3 gig RAM and OSX 10.39. I see. Here is an interesting point. Both you and Chuck has more

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Jun 2005 at 14:00, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I have a suspicion at Tiger itself quite a while. There are at least 2 other apps I run displays problem similar to what you describe. The app slows down when Tiger is doing some other task, and the app never regain speed until it is restarted

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread A-NO-NE Music
David W. Fenton / 2005/06/10 / 06:34 PM wrote: One thing that has also been something to try on Windows machines with massive amounts of RAM is to play around with the size of the VMM's swap file. Sometimes with very large amounts of real memory, the overhead required to manage it can cause

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Jun 2005 at 18:58, A-NO-NE Music wrote: [] Prior to Tiger, the single vm is limited to 64MB, and create another one as needed. . .. I wasn't talking about the size of the VMs for individual apps -- I was talking about the size of the swap file, since writing to/reading from disk is

Re: [Finale] Re: GPO hogs CPU

2005-06-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
I Googled 10.4 tiger memory leak: http://tinyurl.com/cb6rc - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Jun 2005, at 10:39 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I'd like to add my data points that Tiger sometimes slows down to a crawl even when I'm only in the Finder. The fan starts revving and