Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 upgrades

2007-03-27 Thread Christopher Smith
On 27-Mar-07, at 6:03 PM, Harold Owen wrote: I'm running the original version of Finale 2007 because of problems I've heard of in 2007b. If 2007c has fixed the lyrics problems, I'll upgrade to it. What problems do you know of in 2007c? Here is a lyric/hyphen summary as provided by Michael

[Finale] Finale 2007 upgrades

2007-03-27 Thread Harold Owen
I'm running the original version of Finale 2007 because of problems I've heard of in 2007b. If 2007c has fixed the lyrics problems, I'll upgrade to it. What problems do you know of in 2007c? Hal -- Harold Owen 1375 Olive Street #402, Eugene, OR 97401 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site a

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Mac HYPHENS in lyrics

2007-03-12 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:02 AM, Francis Fitzpatrick wrote: Does anyone else still have disappearing hypens in lyrics in Finale 2007? I met a couple of developers who deny the problem ever existed. In a work I am currently editing, I find that hyphens are appropriately continued across a syst

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Mac HYPHENS in lyrics

2007-03-12 Thread Michael Cook
To be quite clear: In older versions of Finale, hyphens disappeared in one particular situation: when syllables got so close together that they are almost touching. This was useful in pieces where lyric spacing was very tight, and is accepted practice for certain editors. In 2006b a bug a

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Mac HYPHENS in lyrics

2007-03-12 Thread Darcy James Argue
I should note that with Fin2007, I have occasionally run into situations where, even with Automatic Update Hyphens and Word Extensions *on*, they sometimes don't show up and I need to manually update them. (This was with Automatic Update Layout off -- I don't know if that makes a differen

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Mac HYPHENS in lyrics

2007-03-12 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:02 AM, Francis Fitzpatrick wrote: Does anyone else still have disappearing hypens in lyrics in Finale 2007? I met a couple of developers who deny the problem ever existed. I think the problem is the hyphens DIDN'T disappear when the syllables got to close to each ot

[Finale] Finale 2007 Mac HYPHENS in lyrics

2007-03-11 Thread Francis Fitzpatrick
Does anyone else still have disappearing hypens in lyrics in Finale 2007? I met a couple of developers who deny the problem ever existed. Frank Fitzpatrick ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

RE: [Finale] Finale 2007 Download Error

2007-01-09 Thread Derek Kane
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:57 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Download Error On Jan 8, 2007, at 8:57 PM, masao iikura wrote: > Hi all; > Every time Finale starts, after the circled

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Download Error

2007-01-09 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jan 8, 2007, at 8:57 PM, masao iikura wrote: Hi all; Every time Finale starts, after the circled 8th note is cycling for about 30 s econds, the message 'Finale 2007 Download Error' is displayed. What does it mean? And what is the solution for that? I think that this is Finale searching

[Finale] Finale 2007 Download Error

2007-01-08 Thread masao iikura
Hi all; Every time Finale starts, after the circled 8th note is cycling for about 30 s econds, the message 'Finale 2007 Download Error' is displayed. What does it mean? And what is the solution for that? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lis

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 under Rosetta (Mac)

2006-11-12 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Perhaps it's a Core 2 Duo problem? That is what my iMac has in it. David Horne wrote: On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:30:26 -0800, "Eric Dannewitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: So, there is this rather serious bug in Finale 2007 running under an intel mac. You can't edit the system margins, or the page

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 under Rosetta (Mac)

2006-11-12 Thread David Horne
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:30:26 -0800, "Eric Dannewitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > So, there is this rather serious bug in Finale 2007 running under an > intel mac. You can't edit the system margins, or the page margins using > the Menus (IE: Page Layout->Page Margins->Edit Page Margins). > > But

[Finale] Finale 2007 under Rosetta (Mac)

2006-11-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
So, there is this rather serious bug in Finale 2007 running under an intel mac. You can't edit the system margins, or the page margins using the Menus (IE: Page Layout->Page Margins->Edit Page Margins). But, if you run Finale 2007 under Rosetta emulation (IE, get Finale to pretend it is not a

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 for Mac

2006-10-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Yeah, it is a major pain in the ass this bug. Major. Needs to be fixed ASAP. dhbailey wrote: I was about to make some snide remark about how intensely they were working on implementing ThoughtNotator(tm) for Finale2008 and can't be bothered fixing any piddly-little bugs in Fin2007, but I realiz

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 for Mac

2006-10-23 Thread dhbailey
I was about to make some snide remark about how intensely they were working on implementing ThoughtNotator(tm) for Finale2008 and can't be bothered fixing any piddly-little bugs in Fin2007, but I realize that as soon as I make such a sophomoric posting we'll learn that they've released Finale20

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 for Mac

2006-10-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Which is a crying shame because on my iMac Core 2 Duo, I cannot adjust page margins. Known bug. It's been what.months now? Aaron Sherber wrote: At 03:06 PM 10/23/2006, Martin Banner wrote: >Has there been an updated version of Finale 2007 for Mac with fixes >released yet? No. Aaron. __

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 for Mac

2006-10-23 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:06 PM 10/23/2006, Martin Banner wrote: >Has there been an updated version of Finale 2007 for Mac with fixes >released yet? No. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

[Finale] Finale 2007 for Mac

2006-10-23 Thread Martin Banner
Has there been an updated version of Finale 2007 for Mac with fixes released yet? Martin Banner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

[Finale] Finale 2007 Intel Mac compatibility (was re: Finale vs. Sibelius)

2006-10-08 Thread Bob Shuster
From the Final website:"While Finale 2007 runs natively in Intel-based Macs, certain components made by third party providers are not yet available in a Universal Binary format. We expect to have free, downloadable updates for these features this fall. In the meantime, you will need to run Finale i

Re: [Finale] finale 2007 install: use 2005 templates?

2006-10-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 7, 2006, at 3:20 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: am about to introduce myself to finale 2007 (hi, i'm jef... please behave and we can be friends) and wondering if there are any issues to be aware of in simply dropping my old default file (template), instrument and page sizes docs

[Finale] finale 2007 install: use 2005 templates?

2006-10-07 Thread shirling & neueweise
am about to introduce myself to finale 2007 (hi, i'm jef... please behave and we can be friends) and wondering if there are any issues to be aware of in simply dropping my old default file (template), instrument and page sizes docs and preferences from 2005 into the appropriate places in the

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 and JW Space Systems

2006-09-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
Thanks Robert. Much obliged. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 23 Sep 2006, at 1:32 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I have added a couple of free downloads to my download site. These are updates of some of Jari Williamsson's things, which I hope he

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 and JW Space Systems

2006-09-23 Thread Robert Patterson
I have added a couple of free downloads to my download site. These are updates of some of Jari Williamsson's things, which I hope he won't mind if I host. (I'll take them down if he does.) Right now, there are 2 items: the last Mac PDKTools (v2.16) and a Universal Binary version of JW Space Sy

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 and JW Space Systems

2006-09-11 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Robert, I was the one who reported it and heard back from Tobias. It was Align/Move that crashed Finale, though the version of that tool supplied in Finale works fine. That's all I know. I will explore what versions I have and report back. Chuck On Sep 11, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Robert Pa

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 and JW Space Systems

2006-09-11 Thread Robert Patterson
Andrew Stiller wrote: As of a week or so ago, TGTools was reported as causing Fin2K7 to freeze. Has this now been fixed? I do not have this problem. I was out of town and missed the report. Perhaps a specific function causes Fin07 to freeze. Or perhaps the person reporting the problem di

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 and JW Space Systems

2006-09-11 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Andrew, That is on the Mac platform. Don't know about Windows. Tobias acknowledged this and simply said that TG Tools was not yet 2007 complaint and that he was working on it. No further word, so far. Chuck On Sep 11, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Sep 11, 2006, at 10

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 and JW Space Systems

2006-09-11 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Sep 11, 2006, at 10:49 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: I must have gotten PDKTools 2.16 bundled with the latest Mac TGTools. I haven't tried it on Windows. The TGTools website is www.tgtools.com. As of a week or so ago, TGTools was reported as causing Fin2K7 to freeze. Has this now been fix

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 and JW Space Systems

2006-09-11 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:52 AM 9/11/2006, dc wrote: >Thanks, Aaron. So my 2.15 version is not the latest. Where did you find 2.16? I don't know. It must have been bundled with TGTools. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 and JW Space Systems

2006-09-11 Thread Robert Patterson
I must have gotten PDKTools 2.16 bundled with the latest Mac TGTools. I haven't tried it on Windows. The TGTools website is www.tgtools.com. -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 and JW Space Systems

2006-09-11 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:29 AM 9/11/2006, dc wrote: >Could anyone succesfully using the Windows version of JW Space Systems tell >me their version of PDK Tools? PDKTools 2.16, WinXP, Fin2007. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 and JW Space Systems

2006-09-11 Thread Robert Patterson
I am using Mac, and I saw similar results until I upgraded to PDK Tools 2.16. SFAIK, PDK Tools 2.16 is only available at the TGTools website. Jari never added it to his. Indeed, I believe Tobias has taken over maintenance of PDKTools. JW Space Systems works fine with Fin07. As of now, however,

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 and JW Space Systems

2006-09-11 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: I finally received my upgrade (or rather found it hidden behind one of my shutters), and the first thing I was anxious to try is JW Space Systems on linked parts. I opened and old (2004) file, generated parts, and tried the plug-in on the score, which caused Finale to freeze. I made

RE: [Finale] Finale 2007 SmartMusic SoftSynth Playback not working

2006-08-31 Thread Fisher, Allen
There's an installer issue. Do a compact install and all should be well. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Gnos > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:06 PM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: [Finale] Finale 20

Re: [Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to canada ( montréal )

2006-08-22 Thread Stan Lord
In UK I have paid 85 GBP, from Musicroom.com. Shipping by Royal Mail was free. This is my first upgrade from UK. Previously I updraded directly from US but was then asked for a customs duty and the total seemed to be more than if I had bought from UK suppliers. Has the price gone up th

[Finale] finale 2007 order/ship to canada (mont réal)

2006-08-22 Thread Jonathan Smith
Jonathan Smith écrit: I didn't get any import duties this time with 2007 (USA-France). Maybe I was lucky! But I noticed that MM had placed a sticker on the package that stated that tax had already been paid on the item etc. I paid $138.90 in total. Thanks for this information, Jonathan. But the

Re: [Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to canada ( montréal )

2006-08-21 Thread Barbara Touburg
dc wrote: Barbara Touburg écrit: I paid 130 euros (Netherlands). I think the shipping is included. From 2006 or earlier? From 2006, the small upgrade. From the official dealer? I was told: A large upgrade costs EUR 198,00 You can order on our shop www.kbsbv.nl Dennis

Re: [Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to canada ( montréal )

2006-08-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.08.2006 dc wrote: Strange. I'm halfway between both figures. Those are the prices on the Klemm webpage. www.klemm-music.de You have to go to the upgrades page to actually find any mention of 2k7. Klemm, afaik is the official distributor. Perhaps some shops are undercutting. Johannes

Re: [Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to canada ( montréal )

2006-08-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.08.2006 dc wrote: What is the current rate for software? 16%, but it will go up 3 points I think in January. Unless the government breaks up. In which case I rather expect it won't go up. But as it stands now, it will. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-ber

Re: [Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to canada ( montréal )

2006-08-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.08.2006 dc wrote: I wrote to all the other official dealers in the Euro zone, and am surprised by the differences in prices quoted, from 150 euros (Germany) to over 200 (Belgium and Portugal). In the best case, only 50$ more than MM's price in the US (150$). In the worst, almost 120$ mor

Re: [Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to canada ( montréal )

2006-08-21 Thread Barbara Touburg
I paid 130 euros (Netherlands). I think the shipping is included. dc wrote: Jonathan Smith écrit: I didn't get any import duties this time with 2007 (USA-France). Maybe I was lucky! But I noticed that MM had placed a sticker on the package that stated that tax had already been paid on the it

[Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to canada ( montréal )

2006-08-20 Thread Jonathan Smith
shirling & neueweise écrit: anyone have any extra costs added to their order "as a result of taxes, customs fees, import duties, brokerage fees, etc."? Yes, 31 euros when I ordered Finale 2004 from France. Dennis Dennis,I didn't get any import duties this time with 2007 (USA-France). Maybe I was

Re: [Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to canada ( montréal )

2006-08-20 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 20, 2006, at 1:27 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: anyone have any extra costs added to their order "as a result of taxes, customs fees, import duties, brokerage fees, etc."? jef -- Shipping Type Canada $23.95 *Orders shipping to recipients outside of the United States may incur additiona

Re: [Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to canada (m ontréal )

2006-08-20 Thread John Hughes
Title: finale 2007 order / ship to canada (montréal) Yes. Arrived Calgary by Fedex. $ 14.18 charge. - Original Message - From: shirling & neueweise To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 11:27 AM Subject: [Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to ca

RE: [Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to canada (mon treal )

2006-08-20 Thread Dejan Badnjar
-4417 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shirling & neueweise Sent: August 20, 2006 1:28 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to canada (montréal )     anyone have any extra costs added to their o

[Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to canada ( montréal )

2006-08-20 Thread shirling & neueweise
Title: finale 2007 order / ship to canada (montréal) anyone have any extra costs added to their order "as a result of taxes, customs fees, import duties, brokerage fees, etc."? jef -- Shipping Type Canada $23.95 *Orders shipping to recipients outside of the United States may incur additional

[Finale] Finale 2007 demo available?

2006-08-17 Thread shirling & neueweise
anyone know when? -- shirling & neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: How so? If you needed an additional part, you'd create it. There would be times that you could change the staves that were in a part and preserve the work that had been done to the part from the score. I don't understand how having a linked part from the beginnin

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-17 Thread dhbailey
Tyler Turner wrote: --- Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I might be missing something, but what is wrong with having items which can be set to only display in the score, even before parts exist. Ok, an additional benefit might be to include a mechanism which could selectivly link

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-17 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail acct
Johannes Gebauer wrote: I might be missing something, but what is wrong with having items which can be set to only display in the score, even before parts exist. Ok, an additional benefit might be to include a mechanism which could selectivly link them to certain parts, but as a start I'd be

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-17 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Creating the parts when setting up the score would > be a serious > limitation, and cause a lot of extra work later on. How so? If you needed an additional part, you'd create it. There would be times that you could change the staves that were

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: For this option to not hurt my work, it would have to have some sort of checker that I could run to hunt for items with this setting. It would be difficult enough for me to remember if I had enabled this setting for an object in one of my own scores several month

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I might be missing something, but what is wrong with > having items which > can be set to only display in the score, even before > parts exist. Ok, an > additional benefit might be to include a mechanism > which could > selectivly link them to

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ok .. after reading all the reviews and deciding that Fin07 is probably a good thing (i.e., more positives than negatives, I think) I shall order the upgrade immediately. Thank you all for the dialog and wish me luck. Dean ___ Finale mailing li

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 16.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: I'd call it necessary. Where is an object going to show up at if it's not linked when the part is initially created? It sounds to me like we'd have some extremely unpredictable behavior if the creation of a part didn't initially have objects placed in the same wa

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread Lon Price
I installed FinMac 2007 Monday night, and I must say that this upgrade is the most important to me since '04, which brought Finale into Mac OSX.  The linked parts feature is going to save me a tremendous amount of time, as well as disk space.  I was able to open an existing file, set up linked part

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15.08.2006 Robert Patterson wrote: > > The Unlink from Parts option is grayed out until > there actually are parts present. What we were > discussing is setting this up once in a template. > > > Stupid. Really stupid. I'd call it necessary

Re: *** Spam *** Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread dhbailey
Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 16.08.2006 Richard Yates wrote: Reminds me of a recent luxury car advertisement that made conspicuous mention of the heated windshield washer fluid as if this was a major engineering breakthrough. Recent? I have that in my very old car built in 1989... Johannes J

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Phil Daley / 2006/08/16 / 10:18 AM wrote: >I have run German and Polish WinNT Oh, OK. My apology. I should had said multi-byte language. Oracle was probably the first utf-8 commercial product widely used everywhere. NT5 kernel and later will process data in utf-8, but Windows display engine c

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread Phil Daley
At 8/16/2006 09:52 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: >Phil Daley / 2006/08/16 / 06:51 AM wrote: > >>What OSes?  Mac?  Linux? > >All but Windows as I mentioned. > >>There are zillions of Windows "non Unicode native" programs >>that run perfectly on Windows. >> > >I bet you have never used non English OS, y

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Phil Daley / 2006/08/16 / 06:51 AM wrote: >What OSes?  Mac?  Linux? All but Windows as I mentioned. >There are zillions of Windows "non Unicode native" programs >that run perfectly on Windows. > I bet you have never used non English OS, yes? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread Jerry Liu
The lack of Unicode support in Finale is precisely why I went for Harmony Assistant. Enough said. Best regards, Jerry --- Tyler Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That's not the point, tho. All the OSes process > > data in UTF-8/16 n

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007, maestro font default, smart score default

2006-08-16 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 16, 2006, at 1:13 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: It's funny that MakeMusic did advertise the articulation improvements. Instead, on the website, they tout "Improved Authorization". http://finalemusic.com/finale/features/new/ authorization_improvements.aspx Woohoo. But the articulation

Re: *** Spam *** Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 16.08.2006 Richard Yates wrote: Reminds me of a recent luxury car advertisement that made conspicuous mention of the heated windshield washer fluid as if this was a major engineering breakthrough. Recent? I have that in my very old car built in 1989... Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktu

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread Phil Daley
At 8/16/2006 07:35 AM, Richard Yates wrote: >Reminds me of a recent luxury car advertisement that made conspicuous >mention of the heated windshield washer fluid as if this was a major >engineering breakthrough. Reminds me of the Consumer Product Safety Commission requiring seat belts in cars a

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread Richard Yates
>>But precisely because it was such an easy thing to implement, and because the benefit to notation is zero and it is merely cosmetic and only works in Page View, what grates is the big splash such a tiny improvement made in the marketing hype. It was touted as a huge feature.>> Reminds me of a r

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread Phil Daley
At 8/15/2006 06:41 PM, Morris Inouye wrote:   On 8/15/06, A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's not a question of just font but more in data processing.  Finale has to be Unicode native in order to run natively on current OSes. Sorry, I must have missed this statement. What OSes?  Mac? 

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 15 Aug 2006 at 14:14, dc wrote: Tyler Turner écrit: Is it [Unicode support] requested as much as any of the major features implemented in Finale over the past few years? Not by a long shot. Textured paper springs to mind... From a programming standpoint, textured p

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 15.08.2006 Robert Patterson wrote: Allen Fisher: > You can also hide it in the score, and leave it in for the parts. The Unlink from Parts option is grayed out until there actually are parts present. What we were discussing is setting this up once in a template. Stupid. Really stupid.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 15.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: This is consistent with what I would have expected to see after 2 years of communicating with thousands of users. Tyler, I certainly do not want to criticize you personally. However, MakeMusic's (and in fact Coda's) level of communication with its user bas

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007, maestro font default, smart score default

2006-08-15 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Oops, I meant DIDN'T not Diderg..need more sleep. Eric Dannewitz wrote: It's funny that MakeMusic did advertise the articulation improvements. Instead, on the website, they tout "Improved Authorization". http://finalemusic.com/finale/features/new/authorization_improvements.aspx

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007, maestro font default, smart score default

2006-08-15 Thread Eric Dannewitz
It's funny that MakeMusic did advertise the articulation improvements. Instead, on the website, they tout "Improved Authorization". http://finalemusic.com/finale/features/new/authorization_improvements.aspx Woohoo. But the articulations stuff is very interestingand very welcome. Aaro

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread Tyler Turner
--- A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Yes, it was the point. We were discussing the > >popularity of unicode as a feature request. > > Huh? > I was talking about data passing. You enter utf-8 > character in File > Info under Finale's File menu, which is corrupted on > Page view. I

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Oh man. My copy of FinMac207 was scheduled to be delivered yesterday, which has changed to today by mid day yesterday. I waited all day today. Checking UPS site for tracking every hour. I just did that at 11:30 pm and it still said "On Schedule", "In Transit". Just now, at 11:45 pm, it turns i

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread David W. Fenton
On 15 Aug 2006 at 14:14, dc wrote: > Tyler Turner écrit: > >Is it [Unicode support] requested as much as any of the major > >features implemented in Finale over the past few years? Not by a long > >shot. > > Textured paper springs to mind... >From a programming standpoint, textured paper was one

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Tyler Turner / 2006/08/15 / 01:13 PM wrote: >--- A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> That's not the point, tho. All the OSes process >> data in UTF-8/16 now. >> Even Win2K/XP processes in Unicode even though their >> display is still MS >> propriety code page. > >Yes, it was the poin

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread David W. Fenton
On 15 Aug 2006 at 7:55, dhbailey wrote: > As to the linked score/parts, whether it was the number 1 request from > users or not, the moment Sibelius' marketing department began touting > it as a great feature of Sib4, I'm sure the Finale marketing > department began clamoring for it, and it seems

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread dhbailey
Morris Inouye wrote: On 8/15/06, *A-NO-NE Music* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Tyler Turner / 2006/08/15 / 07:09 AM wrote: >Calling unicode a "popular" feature request is sort of >a relative statement. Is it requested by people? Yes. >Is it requeste

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread Morris Inouye
On 8/15/06, A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tyler Turner / 2006/08/15 / 07:09 AM wrote:>Calling unicode a "popular" feature request is sort of>a relative statement. Is it requested by people? Yes.>Is it requested as much as any of the major features >implemented in Finale over the past few

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread Robert Patterson
Allen Fisher: > You can also hide it in the score, and leave it in for the parts. The Unlink from Parts option is grayed out until there actually are parts present. What we were discussing is setting this up once in a template. ___ Finale mailing li

RE: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread Fisher, Allen
You can also hide it in the score, and leave it in for the parts. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Turner > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 8:53 PM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale]

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread Tyler Turner
--- A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's not the point, tho. All the OSes process > data in UTF-8/16 now. > Even Win2K/XP processes in Unicode even though their > display is still MS > propriety code page. Yes, it was the point. We were discussing the popularity of unicode as a

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007, maestro font default, smart score default

2006-08-15 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:48 AM 8/15/2006, Martin Banner wrote: >I have lots of settings in the FinMac 2006 maestro font default and >smart score default as I want them for most of my projects. Can I copy >and replace them into the Finale 2007 folder I just loaded onto my >computer? Are there any reasons why I should

[Finale] Finale 2007, maestro font default, smart score default

2006-08-15 Thread Martin Banner
I have lots of settings in the FinMac 2006 maestro font default and smart score default as I want them for most of my projects. Can I copy and replace them into the Finale 2007 folder I just loaded onto my computer? Are there any reasons why I shouldn't do this? It would make life a bit easier

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Tyler Turner / 2006/08/15 / 07:09 AM wrote: >Calling unicode a "popular" feature request is sort of >a relative statement. Is it requested by people? Yes. >Is it requested as much as any of the major features >implemented in Finale over the past few years? Not by >a long shot. That's not the poin

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread Tyler Turner
--- dc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tyler Turner écrit: > >Is it [Unicode support] requested as much as any of > the major features > >implemented in Finale over the past few years? Not > by > >a long shot. > > Textured paper springs to mind... > > Dennis > I'd put money on more people carin

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread Tyler Turner
--- dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When the head tech-support person calls something a > "very popular > request" we can only assume that it is a "very > popular request" and > there seems to be nothing particularly relative > about that. Unless they > rank things by some sort of scal

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread dhbailey
Tyler Turner wrote: --- dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot From this we can conclude that frequency of requests for a particular feature doesn't always mean diddly-squat in Finale's prioritizing which features get implemented or improved. Just another bit of confidence slowly eroding away.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread Tyler Turner
--- dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot > > From this we can conclude that frequency of > requests for a particular > feature doesn't always mean diddly-squat in Finale's > prioritizing which > features get implemented or improved. > > Just another bit of confidence slowly eroding away. > Ca

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread dhbailey
Rudolf van Berkum wrote: Dennis Collins asked: Does Finale 2007 support Unicode? This has been on my wish-list for years... But I see no mention of this on the website. I posed this very question to FinWin support in July, and their reply was: Finale does not currently support UNICOD

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread Jón Kristinn Cortez
dc wrote: Does anyone know if Sibelius supports Unicode fonts? William Roberts écrit: Yes, it does. On Mac it also supports OpenType features such as automatic ligatures, which is pretty cool! Thanks! Pretty cool indeed. The main reason I need Unicode is precisely for ligatures. De

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread William Roberts
dc wrote: Does anyone know if Sibelius supports Unicode fonts? Yes, it does. On Mac it also supports OpenType features such as automatic ligatures, which is pretty cool! Best, -WR ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mail

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-15 Thread Rudolf van Berkum
Dennis Collins asked: Does Finale 2007 support Unicode? This has been on my wish-list for years... But I see no mention of this on the website. I posed this very question to FinWin support in July, and their reply was: Finale does not currently support UNICODE fonts. 2007 will not off

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 RAM issues

2006-08-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Aug 2006 at 11:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-08-13 at 17:41 -0400, James Gilbert wrote: > > Why should a notation software program require sooo much RAM in the > > first place? > > True, if all we expected of FINALE was purely notation; no > conversions, no links from parts

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 RAM issues

2006-08-14 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Oh yeah ... even with 512 MB, I don't think there would be much happiness in playing back GPO sounds. Dean On Aug 13, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 13.08.2006 James Gilbert wrote: Anyone else find that even with a computer that has 256Meg of RAM you cannot install Finale 2007

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 RAM issues

2006-08-14 Thread Phil Daley
At 8/14/2006 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >If your complaint is that they do not make it clear before you purchase, >then I agree, but then 90% of business software on the market today falls >short in the disclosure of performance requirements. But that's just my >humble opinion.. Probabl

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 RAM issues

2006-08-14 Thread richard.bartkus
> On Sun, 2006-08-13 at 17:41 -0400, James Gilbert wrote: > Why should a notation software program require sooo much RAM in the first > place? True, if all we expected of FINALE was purely notation; no conversions, no links from parts to the score, etc. then it could run in less memory. Every

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 14.08.2006 Richard Smith wrote: I respond to Finale much as you do to Sibelius. I think it's just that I am more familiar with Sibelius. Having customized Finale to reflect your own manner of working is best. Similarly I have programmed Sibelius keyboard commands for my laptop to accommodat

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson
Richard Smith wrote: I would like the first two beats of the measure to have the second violin part in voice 2. I don't want the entire bar in voice 2 because it's a piano part and I don't want unneeded stems hanging around. For this kind of short polyphony I would use V1/V2 rather than lay

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-14 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:59 AM 8/14/2006, Richard Smith wrote: >I hesitate to point out that simple entry >was a response to Sibelius' note entry methods (v. 2004 I believe). When >I upgraded to 2005 it was specifically to get simple entry. Well, Simple Entry had been around in Finale for a long time before that.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

2006-08-14 Thread Richard Smith
My Finale experience goes back about 1991 or so. I remember when nearly everyone used speedy entry nearly all of the time. Finale's new simple entry is indeed quite good. I hesitate to point out that simple entry was a response to Sibelius' note entry methods (v. 2004 I believe). When I upgrade

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