Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
David Megginson wrote: > Frederic BOUVIER wrote: > > > I don't know for the original bug reporter, but I am using Windows and NVIDIA > > if it is of any importance. > > That could matter -- I'm using Linux and NVIDIA. Do you have trouble with > transparencies anywhere else? Do other people usi

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* David Megginson -- Friday 12 March 2004 15:29: > That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg The SGI image seems to be OK, though (and I'm an SGI image expert

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Frederic BOUVIER wrote: I don't know for the original bug reporter, but I am using Windows and NVIDIA if it is of any importance. That could matter -- I'm using Linux and NVIDIA. Do you have trouble with transparencies anywhere else? Do other people using Windows and NVIDIA see a white rectan

[Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
David Megginson wrote: > Frederic Bouvier wrote: > > >>Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS > > > I am using the CVS plib and I am seeing this bug. > > That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? I don't know for the original bug reporter, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS I am using the CVS plib and I am seeing this bug. That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? No, not for IRIX, not for Linux. Erik ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS I am using the CVS plib and I am seeing this bug. That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel ma

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:07:10 -0500, David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS plib. I'm pretty sure it was CVS plib. -- Roy Vegard Ovesen ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EM

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Frederic Bouvier
David Megginson wrote: > Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: > > > Another thing that I noticed about the pa28 panel was the plane in the > > TC was not transparent where it should be. The rgb file did have an > > alpha channel but because the file was only 256 colors the alpha channel > > was not transparen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: I too, experienced this, no needles in the instruments. I use a NVidia card under Cygwin. After installing the cvs version of plib, the needles appeared (I used to have plib 1.6.0). Ah, yes -- the last official PLIB version has a bug (I can hardly consider it a feature)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Jon Stockill
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, David Megginson wrote: > I used geometry for the needles, and they must just be too narrow to show > up. It's strange, because I also use Linux+NVIDIA (GeForce2Go), and the > needles do show up on my system at 1600x1200. > > In any case, I'll be switching to bigger quads with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:10:30 +, David Luff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One bug though - I don't see the instrument needles under Linux with an NVidia card. I thought you simply hadn't done them, until I saw them under Cygwin with an ATI card. I see the large tilting plane in the turn co-o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
David Luff wrote: I'll second that - it really is good. It looks really good, and at high resolutions the frame rate is much better than the default - I've seen 60 (pa28) vs. 30 (c172) at some locations and resolutions. The old (2D) panel code seemed to be the real killer, since I'm using much m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Luff
Martin Spott writes: > David Megginson wrote: > > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models > > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv6690/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models > > > Modified Files: > > pa28-161.ac panel.rgb > > Added Files: > > bench-back.rgb glareshield.rgb > > Log

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: This aircraft gets really nice. Thanks. The big breakthrough was my finally learning to use Blender to make the textures (such as the panel plastics and screws) as well as the geometry -- using a good 3D modeller with a bit of lighting can make even a ham-fisted dolt like m

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv6690/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models > Modified Files: > pa28-161.ac panel.rgb > Added Files: > bench-back.rgb glareshield.rgb > Log Message: > Added textures for the b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-28 Thread Jorge Van Hemelryck
It's fixed in CVS now... Thanks ! -- Jorge Van Hemelryck ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-28 Thread Jorge Van Hemelryck
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:37:48 +0100 (CET) Frederic BOUVIER wrote: > Erik Hofman wrote: > > > David Megginson wrote: > > > Martin Spott wrote: > > > > > >> Great idea - unfortunately 'fgfs' now dies with a segmentation fault > > >> just a split second after the FlightGear window appears (Linux), >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 27 February 2004 17:25, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > David Luff wrote: > > Whilst on the subject of initialisation order, currently the tile manager > > gets initialised before an initial position is set. This means that it > > loads a set of tiles centered on lat/lon of 0,0, and then loads

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 27 February 2004 14:02, David Megginson wrote: > Erik Hofman wrote: > > Modified Files: > > radar_misc.rgb > > Log Message: > > Add support for a storm blib > > Excellent. > > As far as I know, civilian airliners carry radar that is capable only of > detecting weather, not small thing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:25:00 -0600, "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > David Luff wrote: > > Whilst on the subject of initialisation order, currently the tile > > manager gets initialised before an initial position is set. This > > means that it loads

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread Jim Wilson
"Curtis L. Olson" said: > David Luff wrote: > > Whilst on the subject of initialisation order, currently the tile manager > > gets initialised before an initial position is set. This means that it > > loads a set of tiles centered on lat/lon of 0,0, and then loads a set of > > tiles at the correc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Luff wrote: Whilst on the subject of initialisation order, currently the tile manager gets initialised before an initial position is set. This means that it loads a set of tiles centered on lat/lon of 0,0, and then loads a set of tiles at the correct location. In conditions of limited visib

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread David Luff
On 2/27/04 at 11:56 AM David Megginson wrote: >The way to fix all this is to decouple the subsystems using properties so >that there is no init-order dependency (and no need for unrelated >subsystems >to know about other subsystems' internals), but I see at least 4-8 hours' >work sorting out t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: The idea is good - don't dump it, Thanks, but it's going to be too much work for now -- there are some bizarre interdependencies. For example, FGInterface, the FDM base class that should know nothing about 3D models, pokes around inside the aircraft model when the FDM is in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-27 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Erik Hofman wrote: > David Megginson wrote: > > Martin Spott wrote: > > > >> Great idea - unfortunately 'fgfs' now dies with a segmentation fault > >> just a split second after the FlightGear window appears (Linux), > > > > > > Yes, I was using the wrong executable to test it. Give me about an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >> Great idea - unfortunately 'fgfs' now dies with a segmentation fault >> just a split second after the FlightGear window appears (Linux), > Yes, I was using the wrong executable to test it. Give me about an hour, > and I'll revert if I cannot fix t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-27 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Great idea - unfortunately 'fgfs' now dies with a segmentation fault just a split second after the FlightGear window appears (Linux), Yes, I was using the wrong executable to test it. Give me about an hour, and I'll revert if I cannot fix the problem.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-27 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: Great idea - unfortunately 'fgfs' now dies with a segmentation fault just a split second after the FlightGear window appears (Linux), Yes, I was using the wrong executable to test it. Give me about an hour, and I'll revert if I cannot fix the problem. All the best, David _

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-27 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Main > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv25641/src/Main > Modified Files: > fg_init.cxx main.cxx > Log Message: > Add the aircraft model, model manager, view manager, and scenery > manager to the standard subsystem collecti

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Josh Babcock
Erik Hofman wrote: David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: I know that in Europe they recently added a requirement for collision detection after two civilian aircraft hit each other when the ATC had given inappropriate directions. Is that a requirement for TCAS, or for something else in add

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Freitag, 27. Februar 2004 15:40, David Megginson wrote: > That said, I'm sorry to hear that the Swiss controller died. Was it in any > way related to the accident? It was not clear up to the yesterday evening news. Have not seen/heared news from today. Greetings Mathias -- Mathias

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: I know that in Europe they recently added a requirement for collision detection after two civilian aircraft hit each other when the ATC had given inappropriate directions. Is that a requirement for TCAS, or for something else in addition to TCAS? Every

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman wrote: I know that in Europe they recently added a requirement for collision detection after two civilian aircraft hit each other when the ATC had given inappropriate directions. Is that a requirement for TCAS, or for something else in addition to TCAS? The copilot on one of those p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Modified Files: radar_misc.rgb Log Message: Add support for a storm blib Excellent. As far as I know, civilian airliners carry radar that is capable only of detecting weather, not small things like aircraft. They also use a separate radar system

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman wrote: Modified Files: radar_misc.rgb Log Message: Add support for a storm blib Excellent. As far as I know, civilian airliners carry radar that is capable only of detecting weather, not small things like aircraft. They also use a separate radar system for ground separation (the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Environment

2004-02-26 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Environment > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv510 > Modified Files: > environment_ctrl.cxx environment_ctrl.hxx > Log Message: > Add support for a proxy server when retreiving metar data. > Index: environment_ctrl.cxx >

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Environment

2004-02-26 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Thursday 26 February 2004 12:45: > I thank you very much for implementing real weather and proxy support. > This is really a great improvement ! I'm quite happy about it, too. It really gives a special feeling to start from ULLI with the real, actual weather from there, or to fly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Environment

2004-02-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Martin Spott -- Thursday 26 February 2004 12:45: I thank you very much for implementing real weather and proxy support. This is really a great improvement ! I'm quite happy about it, too. It really gives a special feeling to start from ULLI with the real, actual weather f

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Environment

2004-02-26 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Thursday 26 February 2004 12:59: > Airport-Id: EFHK > Report time:2004/2/26 11:20 UTC > 3.5 km W2.2 US-miles W > Wind: from the SSE (160°) at 24.1 km/h13 kt = 15 mph = 6.7

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx, 1.51,

2004-02-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Add an option to define the proxy settings (used by metar data fetching only at this time). Usage: --proxy=user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port The notation works for me - as long as I don't have to use proxy authorization. Thanks, If authentication support is prope

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx, 1.51,

2004-02-26 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Main > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv14944 > Modified Files: > options.cxx > Log Message: > Add an option to define the proxy settings (used by metar data > fetching only at this time). Usage: --proxy=user:[EMAIL PROTEC

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Environment

2004-02-26 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Environment > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv19928 > Modified Files: > environment_ctrl.cxx environment_ctrl.hxx > Log Message: > For weather fetching from the noaa.gov site: If the closest station hasn't > changed, w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Environment

2004-02-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Very wise :-) I'd be a bit concerned that NOAA might close their service if they realize an increasing amount of requests from the same host for the same airfield within a too short timeframe. Wouldn't it make sense to evaluate the timestamp of each dataset and delay the next

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airportsmetar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Norman Vine -- Monday 23 February 2004 20:55: > Melchior FRANZ writes: > > http://weather.noaa.gov/data/nsd_.gz > > AFAIK this is same as the link I posted earlier with a different sorting Oh, yes. Missed that, sorry. Seems that 'mine' is sorted by ICAO codes, and 'yours' by ... umm ... b

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airportsmetar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Norman Vine
Melchior FRANZ writes: > > * Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 23 February 2004 18:27: > > Any one know where we can get current and definitive information? > > Here is a list of weather stations with ICAO ids. But it's not obvious > if all of these do also provide metar reports: > > http://weather.no

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports metar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 23 February 2004 18:27: > Any one know where we can get current and definitive information? Here is a list of weather stations with ICAO ids. But it's not obvious if all of these do also provide metar reports: http://weather.noaa.gov/data/nsd_.gz m. ___

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports metar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 23 February 2004 18:27: > There are definitely many weather stations > not colocated with airports (or at least that don't have corresponding > airports in our database.) Ahh, yes. And my assumption that only four letter ids is apparently wrong. There are stations wi

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airportsmetar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: > David Megginson wrote: > > Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > > >> A simple list of id's of metar stations. We can use this list to mark > >> which airports have corresponding metar data so we don't flood the > >> noaa site > >> with bogus queries. > > > > > > It might be a g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports metar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: A simple list of id's of metar stations. We can use this list to mark which airports have corresponding metar data so we don't flood the noaa site with bogus queries. It might be a good idea actually to add lat/lon/elev of each station to the list

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports metar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson wrote: A simple list of id's of metar stations. We can use this list to mark which airports have corresponding metar data so we don't flood the noaa site with bogus queries. It might be a good idea actually to add lat/lon/elev of each station to the list, and to use it instead of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:36:13 -0500 Josh Babcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This has all got me thinking a bit. This subject seems to come up quite a bit, and frankly I have found it a dificult problem too. In addition, there are some related things that can get hard as well like placing the w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Josh Babcock
This has all got me thinking a bit. This subject seems to come up quite a bit, and frankly I have found it a dificult problem too. In addition, there are some related things that can get hard as well like placing the wheels right on the ground, and getting the landing gear elements for wingti

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
"Jon S Berndt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there now a difference in the way that JSBSim and YASim match up > the 3D model with the FDM? No, the discussion is only about placement of the 3D model vs. some FDM reference point, I think (but I'm not absolutely shure if there _might_ be a hidden

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trust me, I've been all over every line of the viewer code. You aren't really > seeing what you think you are. It just looks that way. Jim, do you want to tell me I'm blind ? I must admit that I probably never looked at the code but I can assure you tha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:50:48 - "Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You actually want to be very exact about matching the model to the FDM origin. ... Jim (or someone ... *anyone*): Could you summarize the argument taking place here? I seem to only be getting parts of it - I guess I did

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Jim Wilson
Vivian Meazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I was only using the CofG (and approximately at that) as a better visual > reference than the nose. I was only concerned to make things look right. I'm > sure that the FDMs are quite correct, or the models wouldn't fly very well, > if at all. I take it the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Jim Wilson
Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > You _might_ be right, but in the case we are talking abouth things are > different. For example use the "Tower view" and zoom enough to get the > details. Take off and stay 100 ft above the ground. Now push the > elevator violently aband you'll notice that

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Vivian Meazza
Andy wrote > > > Martin Spott wrote: > > Jim Wilson wrote: > > > If the camera is tracking the nose, then it moves up and down as > > > well with the nose. This creates the _illusion_ that the rest of > > > the aircraft (and of the scene for that matter) is > moving, and the > > > nose is r

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
Andy Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >> Jim Wilson wrote: >> > If the camera is tracking the nose, then it moves up and down as >> > well with the nose. This creates the _illusion_ that the rest of >> > the aircraft (and of the scene for that matter) is moving, and the >> > n

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Andy Ross
Martin Spott wrote: > Jim Wilson wrote: > > If the camera is tracking the nose, then it moves up and down as > > well with the nose. This creates the _illusion_ that the rest of > > the aircraft (and of the scene for that matter) is moving, and the > > nose is remaining stationary when in fact it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Martin Spott wrote: >> > At least in the _outside_ views the PA-28 still rotates around its nose >> > after the recent changes, >> >> That seemed funny to me as well, but when I looked from the outside view, it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-12 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Martin Spott wrote: > > > I can't withstand the impression that changing the _camera_ position > > didn't lead to the intended success. Take a simple stick and rotate it > > around one of its ends. For an observer the phenomenon is still the > > same ev

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-12 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: I can't withstand the impression that changing the _camera_ position didn't lead to the intended success. Take a simple stick and rotate it around one of its ends. For an observer the phenomenon is still the same even when he changes his viewpoint. If you want to rotate the sti

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161 > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv12589 > Modified Files: > pa28-161-yasim-set.xml > Log Message: > Change camera position so that model doesn't rotate around the nose. I can't withstand t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-02-11 Thread Josh Babcock
-0.7 That should do the trick :) David Megginson wrote: Jim Wilson wrote: Actually, it isn't that. It is just the location that the "camera" points to. You don't want it pointing at the nose. So add the entry below to the external views in your xml wrapper that track the plane. The val

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-02-11 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson wrote: I wonder if we can model the broken air vent door on the pilot's side that blows -35 degC air on my feet when I'm flying in the winter. It's already there (parameter: --frostbite=mins where mins is number of minutes before you lose your toes). With that all you need is an old a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-02-11 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I wonder if we can model the broken air vent door on the pilot's side that > blows -35 degC air on my feet when I'm flying in the winter. It's already there (parameter: --frostbite=mins where mins is number of minutes before you lose your toes). With

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-02-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson wrote: Thanks -- that did the trick. The plane is actually flying well, and I'm starting to feel tempted to go back and do more work to make it a fully-usable alternative to the [EMAIL PROTECTED]@#na 172 -- after all, it would be nice for users to be able to fly a light single w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-02-11 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson wrote: Actually, it isn't that. It is just the location that the "camera" points to. You don't want it pointing at the nose. So add the entry below to the external views in your xml wrapper that track the plane. The value is the distance in meters from the FDM reference point (the n

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Hunter/Models

2004-02-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 21:31:30 +0100, Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Martin Spott wrote: > > > Anyway: Thanks for this very nice addition to the FlightGear hangar, > > I'm already investigating for a larger home airport. KSFO isn't going > to take it anym

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-02-08 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Martin Spott wrote: > > > Hello David, I like your PA-28 very much, but I can't resist to note > > that there is one 'feature' that is really annoying (I must admit that > > this word is a bit too strong in this context !): > > At least in the outside v

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Hunter/Models

2004-02-08 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Anyway: Thanks for this very nice addition to the FlightGear hangar, I'm already investigating for a larger home airport. KSFO isn't going to take it anymore. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.fli

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Hunter/Models

2004-02-08 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Hunter/Models > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv1093 > Added Files: > pilots-notes.txt > Log Message: > Missed one important file. > The following additional keyboard controls have been i

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-02-08 Thread Jon Berndt
> > Hello David, I like your PA-28 very much, but I can't resist to note > > that there is one 'feature' that is really annoying (I must admit that > > this word is a bit too strong in this context !): > > At least in the outside views the aircraft rotate around its nose. > > It's difficult to tell

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-02-08 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: Hello David, I like your PA-28 very much, but I can't resist to note that there is one 'feature' that is really annoying (I must admit that this word is a bit too strong in this context !): At least in the outside views the aircraft rotate around its nose. It's difficult to tel

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-02-08 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv27479 > Modified Files: > pa28-161.ac > Added Files: > pa28-161-01.rgb panel-tex01.rgb panel-tex02.rgb > panel-tex03.rgb panel.rgb > L

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Docs/keyboard VERSION, NONE,

2004-02-03 Thread Ronny Standtke
Am Montag, 2. Februar 2004 23:38 schrieb Melchior FRANZ: > Who? The Empress? She was actually called Sisi ... http://dict.leo.org/?search=sissy&lang=de > That a solution for non-US-keyboards is necessary was never argued about, > and actually discussed a few times already. It's just that nobody f

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Docs/keyboard VERSION, NONE,

2004-02-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Ronny Standtke -- Monday 02 February 2004 23:01: > But dont be a sissy, Who? The Empress? She was actually called Sisi ... > I am a developer myself [...] and the German keyboard never troubled me > while programming. But not a TeX programmer, right? :-} > > But thats quite OT, because

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Docs/keyboard VERSION, NONE,

2004-02-02 Thread Ronny Standtke
> The places where they put "unimportant" things like @, [, ], {, }, \, > etc. Face it: German keyboards may be suitable for secretaries or poets, > but they are a royal pain for technical stuff like programming. If you look back in history (damn, I'm not that old) keyboards _have_ been designed

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Docs/keyboard VERSION, NONE,

2004-02-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Ronny Standtke -- Monday 02 February 2004 18:46: > What exactly do you despise about the layout of German kezboards :-) The places where they put "unimportant" things like @, [, ], {, }, \, etc. Face it: German keyboards may be suitable for secretaries or poets, but they are a royal pain for tec

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Docs/keyboard VERSION, NONE,

2004-02-02 Thread Ronny Standtke
Am Montag, 2. Februar 2004 11:51 schrieb Melchior FRANZ: > Don't know. I'm Austrian. > No, seriously: I can't stand German keyboards. Their layout is brain-dead, > so I'm using an US-American one. I'd say that it's up to those who suffer > the most to fix the unfortunate situation. (I use the compo

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Docs/keyboard VERSION, NONE,

2004-02-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Monday 02 February 2004 11:25: > I appreciate your effort - on the other hand I feel required to note, > that there are still unsolved issues because some of the key controls > work different on different national keyboards. I know. But having documentation about the current stat

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Docs/keyboard VERSION, NONE,

2004-02-02 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Docs/keyboard > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv21524/keyboard > Added Files: > VERSION map.pdf map.tex > Log Message: > Add a per aircraft keyboard refference I appreciate your effort - on the other hand I fee

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/f16/Models f16.ac, 1.17, 1.18 f16.xml, 1.8, 1.9

2004-01-12 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/f16/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv20447 Modified Files: f16.ac f16.xml Log Message: Add gear animation Woohooo ! I take this as a compliment. Thanks! Erik ___ Flightgear-d

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/f16/Models f16.ac, 1.17, 1.18 f16.xml, 1.8, 1.9

2004-01-12 Thread Martin Spott
> Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/f16/Models > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv20447 > Modified Files: > f16.ac f16.xml > Log Message: > Add gear animation Woohooo ! Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: docs/Model fgfs-model-howto.html, 1.4, 1.5

2004-01-08 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Erik, Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +href="http://www.flightgear.org/default.css";> [...] > + http://www.flightgear.org/";> src="http://www.flightgear.org/images/fglogosm.jpg"; alt=""> You probably might want to use references _without_ hostname here - like it's already

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: > Sure, there's a print() function which uses SG_LOG; for exactly this > purpose. There's even a fancy dump() method on a property node that > you can use to dump a property tree to the console. Ok, thanks, I eventually found it. Quite useful, thanks. :-) > It turns out to be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: > It appears (to me) to be a property setting problem. Andy, does > nasal have the ability to dump console output for temporary > debugging? Sure, there's a print() function which uses SG_LOG; for exactly this purpose. There's even a fancy dump() method on a property node

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Andy Ross
Curt wrote: > select = sel.getChild("engine", i); > Could there be a bug in this form of getChild()? Heh, bingo. That was exactly it. See the other post for notes. Andy ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightge

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: > Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > David, (Andy?) > > > > It appears that in the latest cvs, we have lost the ability to control > > the engines independently. > > This one is mine. The recent Nasal stuff contains a rework of the > engine handling to allow for arbitrary numbers of eng

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: > Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > David, (Andy?) > > > > It appears that in the latest cvs, we have lost the ability to control > > the engines independently. > > This one is mine. The recent Nasal stuff contains a rework of the > engine handling to allow for arbitrary numbers of eng

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt writes: > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:49:30 -0600 > "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >David, (Andy?) > > > >It appears that in the latest cvs, we have lost the ability to control > >the engines independently. Previously you could type > > ... etc. to select an engine. Th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: > Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > David, (Andy?) > > > > It appears that in the latest cvs, we have lost the ability to control > > the engines independently. > > This one is mine. The recent Nasal stuff contains a rework of the > engine handling to allow for arbitrary numbers of eng

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:49:30 -0600 "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David, (Andy?) It appears that in the latest cvs, we have lost the ability to control the engines independently. Previously you could type ... etc. to select an engine. Then '{' and '}' would select the magnetos.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: > David, (Andy?) > > It appears that in the latest cvs, we have lost the ability to control > the engines independently. This one is mine. The recent Nasal stuff contains a rework of the engine handling to allow for arbitrary numbers of engines, and avoid the "why are there

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David, (Andy?) It appears that in the latest cvs, we have lost the ability to control the engines independently. Previously you could type ... etc. to select an engine. Then '{' and '}' would select the magnetos. Finally, "space bar" would kick in the starter motor for as long as it was depr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Geometry frighter.ac, NONE,

2003-12-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Geometry In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv27779 Added Files: frighter.ac Shou?ld this ship frighten us ? ;-) Only if it's directly above you ... Erik ___

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Geometry frighter.ac, NONE,

2003-12-01 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Geometry > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv27779 > Added Files: > frighter.ac Shouöld this ship frighten us ? ;-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim Rotor.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 Rotorpart.cpp, 1.2, 1.3

2003-11-25 Thread Cameron Moore
David, As for the STL headers, use these instead: #include STL_IOSTREAM #include STL_IOMANIP There are actually many files that are not using these variables from simgear/compiler.h. It looks like the ATC code and JSBSim are handling this on their own instead of letting Simgear do it (though

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim Rotor.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 Rotorpart.cpp, 1.2, 1.3

2003-11-25 Thread Jim Wilson
David, There's a sprintf in Rotor.cpp and compilation is failing with the stdio.h include removed. Best, Jim David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Index: Rotor.cpp > === > RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/YAS

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