hi, exactly. and to the person, i forget who now, said about security
programs and such doing so, yes, but generally its not locked down to
a particular machine, based on the hardware thats in that machine!
and generally, such hardware registration systems can be
deregistered from one
this is why i wish i could develope games. ahaha. cause in australia,
this doesn't happen. on the blind pension we have here, its totally
non means tested. yes, i'd still have to pay tax on any money i made
from game sales, but my government income would not be effected in any
way, shape, or form.
Well, here's the simple truth. If you pay for a game, whether sighted or
blind, you *are* entitled to complain if that game does not work the way
it's advertised to, or if it crashes, and so on. This is not a blindness
issue. Now if someone has the audacity to complain about a free game, that's
This post implies that blind people are lazy and not looking. I recently put
up my resume at every spa, beauty salon, doctor's office, and so on that was
in the area. I even went to a few salons. One hair stylist actually had
heard of me, and said she heard I was the best massage therapist
well speaking from my experience as a former pirate and crack nut
there are a few simple things devs can do to minimise this.
Firstly no one will buy your software if the price is to high or if
it needs to be they are not getting what they would concider enough.
If people can't afford things and
I also aggree, I would give justin a chance, as long as he didn't do it again.
now if he did do it then there would be a problem unless his stuff
was good enough that I would put up with whatever badness he had
after all we are only human.
In fact I think justin is getting treated quite well
Hi,
How can i subscribe to the site?
Apparently it requires logging in.
Thanks.
Angela from Italy.
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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Raul A.
Gallegos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:30 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey]
I think it would be good in general if devs in general followed
aprone and included people in game development on a wider community level.
I realise this is not smooth sailing, you will be open to the flack,
the whiners complainers and flamers.
but also the good people, that is what swamp
by use do you mean play outside itunes.
you can convert some of those you get to mp3.
reguardless winamp and maybe others will play m4a and m4v / mp4 files
At 02:45 AM 4/24/2013, you wrote:
Hi.
Last I checked if you downloaded a track in itunes, you couldn't use
it without the itunes program
same with books.
interestingly though some libraries have books that have different
licencing things.
ie allowing you to share put on cd, etc.
At 02:51 AM 4/24/2013, you wrote:
Dark,
You haven't needed the iTunes program for a number of years now. I
know for a fact that iTunes files can be
aggree with you michael.
I think this will be making some major shakeups in the industry.
hmph a few months ago I commented how boring crappy and non moving
the industry was, its ertainly looking like something is going to move.
At 03:01 AM 4/24/2013, you wrote:
What a fascinating can of
would you mind sharing that situation with us raul, it may or may not
make some of us better wtith what justin has done but it may make us
understand the situation a bit more.
As usual, this is something now for us all.
At 06:26 AM 4/24/2013, you wrote:
Hmm, can anyone guess which topic will
hmmm now where idd that quote come from raul sounds familiar.
At 06:34 AM 4/24/2013, you wrote:
Hi, I don't think he's in it for the profits. But one will believe
what one thinks is right of course. No matter how much this horse is
beat to death, no one will come to a complete agreement for
exactly what I put in my messages a bit ago.
At 08:32 AM 4/24/2013, you wrote:
Hi Dark and all,
not only that, but studies show that the hardware ID key systems
haven't done anything to prevent or slow down piracy. Microsoft found
this out the hard way in 2007 when they released Windows Vista
I aggree with you on that tom though due to the fact I have only just
got my mail I am behind on responces.
but yeah we have hashed this enough.
At 08:46 AM 4/24/2013, you wrote:
Hi all,
OK, over the last two or three days I think we all have said all there
is to be said about Justin closing
the dice project was not a bad idea in itself, however the fact that
we can buy 4 sided dice locally in our countries well most of us
should be able to do this makes me wander why even to bother.
Sertiously though if a user wants an 8 sided dice or whatever buy the
cube, buy some thermoform
I'm starting another community project.
Right now, I have a very rudamentary soundscape explorer. It has no game play
elements as of yet. What it does have is an external map file so I can create
whole worlds, not just minigames like Heli. I don't even have proper collision
subroutines worked
well we had to fight for those, but yeah, looking for work as you
would usually do won't get you in if you go via the front.
and if you go by the official book it doesn't work either necessarily.
The only way I have found is do a lot for free or low pay as long as
others see your work or you
thats true ken, legally I need to have a job.
by law all disabled here need a job or to be looking for one else no
benifits though these are small.
However as I mentioned before government agencies are just crappy you
are a number and thats it.
Since the system is crappy though its easy to
wow I will check this out sounds interesting.
At 08:39 PM 4/24/2013, you wrote:
I'm starting another community project.
Right now, I have a very rudamentary soundscape explorer. It has no
game play elements as of yet. What it does have is an external map
file so I can create whole worlds, not
Hi Michael.
well I'm not sure if it's available internationally yet, since there seem to
be no updates of it on the ap store this morning being the 24th. Then again,
unexpected delays are common and i've noticed apple aren't awlays the
fastest to respond (if I buy something it usually takes
Hi Clemment.
DanZ actually setup a full page of downloads of hist stuff, so you can just
grab them from audiogmaes.net or anywhere else.
See http://audiogames.net/db.php?id=superdeekout for details and the
download link.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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From: Clement
it be a couple of days i think
On 24 Apr 2013, at 10:46, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
Hi Michael.
well I'm not sure if it's available internationally yet, since there seem to
be no updates of it on the ap store this morning being the 24th. Then again,
unexpected delays are common and i've
I agree Michael.
This was my problem all along, not that justin wasn't! giving his games
away, but that he would make them unobtainable. Heck, i wouldn't mind too
much if he continued to sell the keygenerator and other software, even on
request, just so long as it were available to posterity.
Hi Tom.
this was exactly my point. if a person is going to pirate something they are
going to pirate it anyway, where as the reverse is true. i particularly like
your idea of developers talking to customers in countries like Iran, since
that is something which has come up before, indeed I can
Hi tom.
another crytical issue I find with piracy is actually who! gets the money.
if I buy a Cd for say ten pounds, only about a pound of that will go to the
actual musicians, and that is even assuming the musicians in question earn a
royalty on individual cd sales and weren't given a fixed
wow Dallas, that's awsome, i should move to australia.
the Uk is a little better than the us, but we still have some means tested
bennifits. So you get your disability bennifits, what are now called pip's,
for mobility and dayly living stuff, but then you have others such as income
support
Hi, you can't. I've put that in place until I have more bandwidth. Once
I do, I'll remove the login.
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On 4/24/2013 2:46 AM, Angela Delicata wrote:
Hi,
How can
Thanks!
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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Raul A.
Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 2:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] raul's recordings down again
Hi, you can't. I've put that in place until I have more
Well the more corrupt you are with the US government. The more you
get. Even though our forefathers did it the honest way. A corrupt
government sees that as not needing help for anything. I see more
people filling jobs the blind can do with ease. While the blind get
told the job is not
They are not in violation, because of what is called high risk
insurance. That is what all blind are labeled. So if that store
determines you a high risk in moving around in there store. Then they
don't have to tell you anything except leave. You need to read that
ADA crap better, because it
But wouldn't sticking on Braille labels effect the die's balance when
rolling it?
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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:29 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Giving Away Free
Hi Dark,
*snip*
if I buy a Cd for say ten pounds, only about a pound of that will go to the
actual musicians, and that is even assuming the musicians in question earn a
royalty on individual cd sales and weren't given a fixed amount by the
publishers. Therefore, if you copy a Cd, the
Hi christina.
I did think of this when labeling my own DD dice, and actually it worked
okay so long as I rolled them on a hard surfice and so long as I made
certain that the labels just! attached to the front of the face of the dye,
and didn't have any trailing corners.
I tested this by
Hi josh.
i'm afraid I disagree on distribution completely, since if you look at the
markup that goes into prophit, even for something with little to no cost it
is unbelieveable. i would be quite happy paying individual people, it is
paying massive companies that I disagree with.
i do agree
True, but I've met a frightening number of blind people wo feel tey're
entitledto everything on a silver platter, even things it would be more or
less impossible for a business to provide. I've known people who'd threaten
to sue one store employee if they were unable to help them shp, even
And as I've observed in other posts Joke Rehab as I like to call it is no
real help. That's why I'm glad that while I eventuall hope to be able to
make and sell commercial games I haven't yet. I know they'd ct most of my
SSI, to the point where Iwouldn't be able to support myself.
But thou
Hi Ken I have been applying for jobs for about a year and I had only 2
interviews one at Target and one at the goodwill. It seems like no one
wants to give us a chance.
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From: Ken The PionEar kenwdow...@me.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent:
Dark,
It actually is very much related to games, as we were talking about the reasons
for audio game piracy. In your eagerness to offer philosophical talking points,
you entirely missed the point I was making. Hence why I referenced Android as
well.
The days of small and individual developers
Hello. That is just horrible that they decided to remove you from your job
-Original Message-
From: Trouble
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] OT: rant about jobs: was Re: Giving Away Free Games
was Announcement About BSC Games
They don't. That's the fact of the matter. And to be quite frank I think Voc
Rehab tends to do more harm than good more often than not. The give te
employer the impression that we can't be taken seriosly.
But thou must!
-Original Message-
From: Greg Steel
Sent: Wednesday, April 24,
HI josh.
I freely admit my knolidge of apple's business structure is not exact,
though even from owning an Iphone I can draw conclusions. I do not say all
coorporations are evil, they are simply in pursuit of prophit which, as marx
stated is a none moral system from which you cannot derive
I know I'm doing a taboo by adding to this off topic thread, but I thought
this to be important.
I used to work for Freedom Scientific as front line tech support. I first
started out by performing my duties as a contractor in 2005. This was in
part due to voc rehab sending me down to Florida
Hi Dark,
Just about done with this, as i have work to do, but just a couple quick
responses here…
*snip*
you are absolutely correct that the internet should! give an easy method for
distribution, yet why is it still the case that many audio books (even when
unabridged), are five or ten
Bryan,
I think most people are very, very confused about what it costs to
create games. Tools cost nothing, unless you're buying something very
specific. A reliable distribution website for releasing all your
stuff can be had for twenty dollars a month. Paypal accounts are
free. The only
Hi Josh.
I was wondering if you could tell me what the background music playing in Ten
Pin Alley was or is? It appears to be a piece of music with a vocal track,
however its so far behind the actionary audio that its difficult for me to make
anything out and Shazam, my mobile music recogniser
There are actually several different tracks that play on the overhead speakers
inside Ten Pin Alley. Some written by myself, some by Eric Troup, who is one of
our voice-actors and sound designers.
We've actually been considering offering these on iTunes and Amazon MP3, along
with other game
Hi all!
After several months, I feel it is high time for a new BGT release. So here
it comes, packed with changes and improvements that I hope you will all find
useful. In fact, there are so many changes so that I figured I should call
it version 1.3.
Please note that due to the
Is this the company that made troopanum? That was the first, and most
memorable audio game I played. I had the Demos of like all his games
Sent from my iPod
On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:29 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
well he really has shot himself in the foot by doing this.
I
This attitude, which I've seen repeatedly in these threads, has
convinced me as a developer to use always-on DRM for every product I
release.
Dennis Towne
Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com
On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:29 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
well he really has shot
I may be wrong, but I think that blind people pirate games because they want
stuff for free. Some consider it a challenge to see if they can crack a
game's security. In short, they pirate for the same reason that sighted
pirates do it. There is the added reasoning that the unemployed blind
What program did you use to record these music?
-Original Message-
From: Draconis
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:09 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ten Pin Alley Music?
There are actually several different tracks that play on the overhead
speakers inside
Probably actual equipment would be my guess.
But thou must!
-Original Message-
From: Sky Mundell
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:48 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ten Pin Alley Music?
What program did you use to record these music?
-Original
All of the Ten Pin Alley music tracks were recorded in a full recording studio
in Anaheim, California. Several of them appeared on the Hearts in Action
charity CD, which occasionally show sup on eBay.
On Apr 24, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Sky Mundell s...@shaw.ca wrote:
What program did you use to
For those who have been waiting, the subject line says it all. The cost? Just
under $5 US currency.
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With my usual good fortune, I discoverd just a couple of hours after release
that I used the wrong compiler settings. This resulted in the binary size
being much greater than it needed to be. If you download the installer
again, you will get the proper version. Sorry for the
Hi Josh.
Absolutely, I'd love a copy of the music used in the game.
All the best, Ibrahim.
-Original Message-
From: Draconis
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:09 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ten Pin Alley Music?
There are actually several different tracks
Hi all,
Please take this topic off list. It is off topic and has nothing to do
with games.
Thanks.
On 4/24/13, Ken The PionEar kenwdow...@me.com wrote:
This post implies that blind people are lazy and not looking. I recently put
up my resume at every spa, beauty salon, doctor's office, and
Please excuse me.
But what does BGT stand for?
Thanks.
Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week.
-Original Message-
From: Philip Bennefall
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:15 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject:
Hi Ron,
It stands for Blastbay Game Toolkit. Better to be descriptive, I figured.
Smiles.
Kind regards,
Philip Bennefall
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From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com
To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 24,
Blastbay Game Toolkit.
But thou must!
-Original Message-
From: Ron Kolesar
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 2:42 PM
To: Philip Bennefall ; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT Version 1.3 Released!
Please excuse me.
But what does BGT stand for?
Thanks.
Ron and
-Massive update on the pit fight simulation gambling function in the Ghost
Planet area- more moves, more personality, more fun.
-Massive update of the Terminator zone with larger area, more mobs and
items.
Combo bet testing has begun, and this is from the in-game announcement:
After
Hi Charles,
Well, that certainly is one factor. Although, I haven't been blind my
entire life when I lost my sight I was shocked at the number of blind
people who have an entitlement complex and have a victim mentality.
Its possible it is because of this they assume that a developer should
just
good valid points.
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game
Hi Dallas,
Agreed. I feel internet activation is really the best method for
cracking down on piracy while not being too restrictive. A MySQL
database can be set up to track how many times the software has been
registered, and if a person buys a new PC they can un register the
copy on their old PC
Hello Jim
I'm in the same boat as you. that is why when I get better at programing
I'll be sharing the games I right for free. It's always better to do
something for fun then be persherd for time or the fact that the game that
You wrote this time might not be as good as the last one. then
Hi Dark,
Exactly. That's why I wanted to make it clear that there are many
reasons why people pirate software. Yes, some blind people have an
entitlement attitude, but certainly not everyone. Sometimes if the
circumstances were different it might change some people's minds
about pirating the
I hate the 3 strikes rule. I had several instances where my computer
kept on giving me a delayed write failure error. I kept replacing
component after component, hard drives, CDrom, Ram etc, but the error
still kept on happening. I kept having to reactivate jaws because my
license kept
That's one of the major reasons why I don't use the Shark anymore. Once you
buy Window-Eyes you can install it on as many machines as you want/need to.
True you still have to renew your SMA from time to time but GW Micro doesn't
crank out new releases nearly as often as Greedom does, so you
That happened to me when I installed more Ram into this machine I'm
currently running, too. Luckily, it was a one-time deal, and FS didn't
question why I needed a new license key, but you can imagine my
disappointment when I found out that you can only have a certain
amount of RAM on a 32 bit
Another thing I was thinking is that some people might think that a
game is priced too high for what it is. For example, we now have RS
Games, the playroom, and Blind Adrenaline, not to mention all the
single-player card and board games that Jim Kitchen has developed.
When a person looks at All In
Hello all,
The scoreboards should be fully available and operational now, as the new DNS
settings should have propagated across the Internet. As we stated previously,
the boards will reset on the first of every month, and we'll be watching them
to see how much gamers are actually using the
Hi Dark,
I've got a few comments here I think need to be voiced as it seems you
and I have some serious intellectual differences in the way we view
economics and business in general, and I don't think it is possible to
have an intelligent discussion until those differences are voiced.
I know
Hi Josh,
Well said. I don't think I could have stated that any better than you
already have.
As you pointed out the world is made up of infinite shades of gray,
and extremes of any kind are always bad for the end user. I've
experienced this often enough in my own life to know this to be true.
Hi Dark,
Actually, this does very much relate to games since the issue is
distribution of products weather it be games, audio books, music, or
anything else. The problem here is that you have an incorrect
perception of Apple's model and charged ahead with your philosophical
talking points without
yeah cloud based activation is the way to go anyway.
At 09:53 AM 4/25/2013, you wrote:
That's one of the major reasons why I don't use the Shark anymore.
Once you buy Window-Eyes you can install it on as many machines as
you want/need to. True you still have to renew your SMA from time to
Hi Shaun,
I think you are comparing apples to oranges here. Jaws Internet
activation is still based on hardware authorization and if you change
memory, CD ROM, etc it will cause Jaws to deactivate. What I was
talking about is merely keeping track of three installations of the
software which can
Hi Desiree,
To be specific 32-bit operating systems like XP can only support up to
4 GB of ram. A 64-bit OS like Windows 7 supports up to 128 GB of ram.
Big difference. :D
Cheers!
On 4/24/13, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote:
That happened to me when I installed more Ram into this
Hi dark,
I won't go into all of the points I'd been planning on addressing below,
because Josh and Thomas have pretty much already covered that ground quite
nicely.
However, I will comment / question a few points below.
Thanks,
Cara :)
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Hi, I was told I have 8 days of the demo. However when I went to
register and, hit on copy product id, and hit yes, it took me to some
sight that said, related searches.
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Hi Christina,
No, not really. As I've stated before I have a standard set of six
sided dice with braille labels on them and it doesn't effect rolling
them. The braille labels doesn't really add much weight to each side
of the dice in question. Certainly not enough to counter act the force
of a
Hi Curt,
Just download and install the patch for the game. That will get rid of
the need to register the game.
Cheers!
On 4/24/13, Curt Taubert curttaub...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Hi, I was told I have 8 days of the demo. However when I went to
register and, hit on copy product id, and hit yes,
Yeah, I found that out the hard way, unfortunately. now i've got 8gb
of useless Ram sitting in my computer.
On 4/24/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Desiree,
To be specific 32-bit operating systems like XP can only support up to
4 GB of ram. A 64-bit OS like Windows 7
Hi Cara,
You raised a very good point in your last post. Sometimes a game
developer needs to stop answering calls, responding to email, or cut
down on list activity to work on games. If a developer does that he or
she could be accused of being impersonal just because they are trying
to make time
maybe devs could get others to handle their list mail.
its just a thought, ofcause said person would need to eventually get payed.
I'd do it for anyone that wants it.
free at first but if I expanded obviously I'd need to be payed,
something like 10 bucks an hour or whatever or well games,
Hi Philip,
Wow! Sounds like a bang up release. BGT gets better and better all the time.
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I'm having a weird issue in vb6 when I try adding a number to the end of a
sound file. If I tell dx8 that the file is called walk.wav, it does fine. If i
say it's called walk3.wav though, i get an invalid procedure call. Anybody know
how to handle this? I'm trying to randomize the footstep
Hi all: I hope someone can help. I also sent this message to the support
thing but I get a message back saying domaine full or something. Anyhow my
question is do you need to install every software and programme in order for
the key generator to work they are all downloaded but I wasn't going
Hi Liz,
No, you don't have to install all of the software. Basically, the way
the generator works is you run it select the product you want to
register and paste in your hardware ID, and tell it to generate a new
key. You can paste the key it generates into the registration program
for the game
Well, if I get help in this comminity project it'll go far enough where
people can start using it to make salable games. That's the beauty about
this project--it's totally open all the way. Once it's built up, new coders
will be able to see exactly how it all goes together and get ideas for
Hey Tom, are you still working on Genesis? I haven't heard about it in a long
time.
Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html .
If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook,
(KenWDowney,) or
Never mind. It's not the number. that didn't make sense. Of course, neither
does the error as it still stands. I'll figure it out though--hopefully.
Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html .
If you want to reach me,
ouch lol
well, you should be able to install a 64 bit OS on that machine then,
and then the 8 gb will be used. so much better, running 64 bit. 32 bit
is sooo old and slow.
let alone the speed at which you can zip files up, in 64 bit mode,
using all the ram you have. my god, does it go fast.
But Shaun, then we'd become corporations and then Dark would hate us! lol!
*smile* Dark, just kidding! *hug*
Just couldn't resist! :)
Shaun, in all seriousness would you actually do that? if so that's way cool of
you to offer!
This is the sort of community involvement I'm talking about. That
Ken, does VB6 provide arrays? If so, you could create an array of strings which
hold your file names and then call an element of your array at random using a
standard numerical random command. This way you wouldn't need to place numbers
at the end of your file names.
HTH
Cara :)
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Hi Ken,
Yes, I'm still working on the engine although it has had a name
change. I found out that another company had a Genesis engine called
Genesis 3D so I decided to call my engine Evolution 3D to avoid any
copyright issues. :D.
On 4/24/13, Ken The PionEar kenwdow...@me.com wrote:
Hey Tom,
Hi Ken, a while back I posted some notes on collision detection and vectors to
the Audyssey list and Thomas's Developers list. I'll re-post a couple of these
here now.
This first one is concerning axis-aligned bounding boxes. All this means is
that you represent a box which stays lined up with
Oh yeah, I can imagine. This is only a dual core processor, though.
Wouldn't I need a quad core to take full advantage of a 64 bit system?
Either way, I can imagine how much faster it would be. Not only that,
but it would take much longer for Firefox to eat up all my ram, and i
wouldn't have to
Hi Shaun,
Well, regarding a payment plan most developers are not equipped to
take payments on a monthly basis whatever. Sure someone could send me
$5.00 per month via Paypal but then I have to keep accurate records of
how much each person paid and send out monthly statements which could
get to be
yeah. exactly. also, another thing to note. in the mainstream gaming
world, they don't usualy tell people something is coming out, till its
coming out. lol. or they advertise it, but only when its actually
complete, and ready for shipping, and they are just completing the
process of supplying the
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