Re: [gentoo-dev] LFS QA warnings coming soon to a build near you

2015-05-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
are there, the defines shouldn't be forced. Mike, thanks for doing this, it has been a pain in my shoe since 2008 https://blog.flameeyes.eu/2008/11/who-wants-to-support-largefile. I'm looking forward to the protests that 64-bit inodes don't exist, though. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes https

Re: [gentoo-dev] LFS QA warnings coming soon to a build near you

2015-05-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 31 May 2015 at 14:33, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: Do users with 64-bit systems have to pay attention to this ? Only as far as multilib is concerned. The 64-bit ABIs are (AFAIR) all LFS with no opt-out. x86-64 is definitely LFS. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes https

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: c++14 global USE flag

2015-04-26 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 25 April 2015 at 16:57, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Of course, one thing that could make the process faster would be if C++ based packages were marked some way. revdep-rebuild --soname 'libstdc\+\+.so.*' should do the trick. Stuff that does not link the library (statically linked

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-06 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
than just crashing, especially as *most* of the functions will likely work either way, as long as the same set of allocators/users/deallocators are used… Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes https://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-06 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
*all* the packages built with one or the other when switching, or (if the SONAME were the same) they would be built against a different ABI that they are built against, which can be possibly causing security issues as data structure size (and thus meaning of the content) changes. Diego Elio Pettenò

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-05 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
://blog.flameeyes.eu/2014/07/libressl-and-the-bundled-libs-hurdle Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes https://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-05 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
with and does not solve the transitive dependencies problem. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes https://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Gentoo do https by default?

2015-03-27 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
for it which is still valid... Uh? They don't do it for free, but they do revoke certificate if you pay for it. xine-project.org has a revoked cert from last year due to heartbleed. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes https://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 14 March 2015 at 23:30, Manuel Rüger mr...@gentoo.org wrote: iirc most deb and rpm based distributions use main for their central repository, so +1 for gentoo-main. Add me for gentoo-main too. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes https://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 89 bugs

2015-02-27 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
before but never properly implemented. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes https://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 27 February 2015 at 03:07, Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:00:04 -0800 (PST) Alex Alexander wrote: Our bug queue has 89 bugs! If you have some spare time

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [rfc] Rendering the official Gentoo logo / Blender 2.04, Python 2.2

2015-02-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 23 February 2015 at 22:11, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: I have streamlined those into ebuilds and a dedicated overlay Thanks! So whoever needs to render Blender files from 2003 again at some point should find working ebuilds to do that. Feel free to join keeping them in

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
But they don't. See my two blog posts on the matter. ABI compatibility is explicitly not. What they care about. On 23 Jan 2015 05:56, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 01:51:24 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Regarding the last libav discussion I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposed update to toolchain.eclass

2015-01-18 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Yes, yes, yes, please fix this eight years old wish entry for me ;) https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2007-02/msg00314.html Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes https://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 18 January 2015 at 21:50, Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi everyone, I'd like to make a commit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Doomsayers needed

2014-11-26 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 26 Nov 2014 11:07, Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org wrote: On 11/26/2014 01:43 PM, Sergey Popov wrote: Standart - cross-compilation and prefix. If you do not care about the latter(not having keywords for your package) - it's ok. Cross-compilation, or compilation into another root is

[gentoo-dev] tb logs attacher

2014-11-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Hi, did you end up running the script only for RESO/NEEDINFO or for all of them? If you have a chance to run it for every bug I will just turn down the S3 account afterwards. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 20 November 2014 at 16:04, Ian

Re: [gentoo-dev] tb logs attacher

2014-11-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
% of the cost of one month of bare server hosting. For myself, this is just closure. I was tired already of the situation and I just want to get over it now. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grab

2014-11-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Trying to dump first the packages I no longer use/I'm no longer interested in: app-crypt/sgeps app-emacs/actionscript-mode dev-java/jcommander dev-perl/CHI dev-perl/Data-Uniqid dev-perl/Digest-JHash dev-perl/Filesys-SmbClient dev-perl/google-api-adwords-perl dev-perl/Hash-MoreUtils

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-11-21 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
again, this is disproportioned to ONE person refusing to accept a setup. So really, I'm tired to be insulted, and this was the last drop. Goodbye. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 21 November 2014 07:51, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-11-19 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 31 October 2014 09:28, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: So who wants to pick up the pieces now? Because I'm almost pissed off enough to turn down the tinderbox and give a big FU to Gentoo already. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527608 More! https://bugs.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Running repoman on the portage tree

2014-11-18 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
://blog.flameeyes.eu/tag/foraparallelworld has some posts on the topic, otherwise https://blog.flameeyes.eu/tag/parallelmake (there is some duplication as lots of the former posts are tagged for the latter too). Have fun. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/teamviewer: teamviewer-9.0.30203-r1.ebuild ChangeLog

2014-11-12 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Also feel free to pick up the package, I no longer have a license or a reason to buy one :( Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 12 November 2014 23:00, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: You have just done a full version bump, so the ebuild file

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new QA_NEEDED variable for files installed by pre-built binary packages with broken soname dependencies

2014-11-07 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new QA_NEEDED variable for files installed by pre-built binary packages with broken soname dependencies

2014-11-07 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
this proposal worth our time any more, shall we? Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new QA_NEEDED variable for files installed by pre-built binary packages with broken soname dependencies

2014-11-07 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 8 Nov 2014 01:35, Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 November 2014 13:59, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: Okay, sure. I'll save it for the day when someone finds a valid reason to install binaries with broken soname deps (not likely). Another candidate for a possible

Re: [gentoo-dev] terminal spreadsheet - sc fork

2014-11-03 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Beside being off-topic. And beside SCIM being a well-known opensource projector for IME. If you're inventing a new license, that's simply wrong. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 3 November 2014 13:24, Andrés Martinelli andma...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-11-02 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Excuse the top posting. You don't need to strip the HTML. Change the extension to whatever.log and it's already there in unmangled text. On 2 Nov 2014 01:10, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/11/14 03:53 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-11-02 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
How do you strip the html code? I was unsure about to do that :/ You should have asked. There is no need to strip. I upload both HTML and text alike.

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-11-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
was paying between $.12 and $.20 for storing EBS snapshots from long ago that I never ended up removing. It's not even a rounding error at this point. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-11-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 1 November 2014 10:47, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: But let's reason a moment on the no-linked-logs policy: as Rich pointed out already, the policy is there for a reason and that reason is that we don't want people to submit bugs with pastebins or home server logs

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-10-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
to turn down the tinderbox and give a big FU to Gentoo already. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527608 Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-10-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
, huge thanks to Rich and Jer for their help here, it does feel good to know that at least some of the colleagues do have my back.) Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-10-18 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
were not attached.) Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 18 October 2014 08:51, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/13/14 1:38 AM, viv...@gmail.com wrote: have you considered to stabilize gcc:4.9 instead possibly 4.9.2 ? I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-10-18 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
to volunteer my time to run the tinderbox and file the bugs. But I won't do so if all I'm going to get back is bitching. It seems a fair proposal to me. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 18 October 2014 12:59, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: El

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-10-18 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
of my time. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 18 October 2014 17:55, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: El sáb, 18-10-2014 a las 14:15 +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò escribió: If you write the code for that, be my guest. But the code is in Ruby

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-10-18 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
) is not something I feel. Especially in comparison to the $600/month the tinderbox *hardware* costs me to host. If there is the interest, I'll start prop it up for gcc-4.9 testing even tonight. It'll take a couple of weeks to go all through it. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EBUILD] unknown description

2014-10-16 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
And if faad is *required* for aac it should not use faad as USE flag, but aac. Because in the case of mplayer it's selecting faad *over libavcodec*. In other cases faad is depended upon with aac because it is required to play back aac files. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing a blocker from a stable package

2014-10-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
that's intended. repoman warns for missing *needed* dependencies, but won't bother for unknown blockers exactly for cases like this. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 15 October 2014 01:25, Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/13/2014

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing a blocker from a stable package

2014-10-13 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
(d) Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 13 October 2014 17:58, Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org wrote: I've got two obsolete packages masked currently: app-text/unix2dos and app-doc/djbdns-man. Both of them block other stable packages, app

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Are users forced to use PAM?

2014-10-06 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
What Lars said. Although I have to admit that the fact that one full day later I'm looking at it myself after work and before getting ready for travel saddens me. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 6 October 2014 05:34, Lars Wendler polynomia

Re: [gentoo-dev] Are users forced to use PAM?

2014-10-05 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
nowhere. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 5 October 2014 11:18, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: In bug 524074 (https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524074), Joshua Kinard mentioned that Gentoo cannot support systems where PAM isn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Are users forced to use PAM?

2014-10-05 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Thanks for looking it up Matthias. Sounds like me or someone else will get to it asap (not on my laptop right now to commit). On Oct 5, 2014 4:45 PM, Matthias Maier tamiko+gen...@kyomu.43-1.org wrote: Am 05. Oct 2014, 15:20 schrieb Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu : Simple

Re: [gentoo-dev] Enable format-security in the dev profiles

2014-07-21 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Any -Werror=* flag will make random autoconf checks fail for no good reason, don't use them on profiles, it's silly. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 20 July 2014 20:28, Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello, I'd like to enable

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] fcaps.eclass: Group name portability

2014-04-13 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
I'm pretty sure we have an eclass function to get the name of the 0 group. On 12 Apr 2014 17:41, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: na...@gentoo.org: fcaps.eclass is using group name 'root' which is not available on BSD system. Instead you can use 0, or $(id -g -n 0) if you'd prefer group

Re: [gentoo-dev] ImageMagick[opencl] sandbox access violations

2014-03-27 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
There's a sandbox.d configuration directory on purpose; imagemagick[opencl] should probably install its own exception. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 27 March 2014 07:29, Maxim Koltsov maksbo...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello, Currently

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2014-01-11 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
If we limit it to the virtual, pam and pambase, I'm happy to stick maintaining them, the others I don't use, which is why I don't care about them as much. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 11 January 2014 11:01, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2014-01-10 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 10 January 2014 22:20, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: how would moving it to base-system make any difference ? people doing it wrong wouldn't really care which herd pam itself is owned by. I'm not saying it makes a difference, sorry I didn't make it clear. Diego Elio Pettenò

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2014-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
a single person, and when said single person asked for the rest of the users of/providers for PAM to accentrate on a single package, they ignored/worked around problems instead of reporting/discussing them. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

[gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2013-12-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
I stopped caring about pambase when people decided to break it. I'm still officially pam herd as maintainer of Linux-PAM, pam_ssh I don't use and care very little about. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Pacho

Re: [gentoo-dev] =net-fs/samba-4* vs. dev-libs/openssl[kerberos]

2013-12-06 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
and create a bigger one at runtime. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] logging in openntpd 20080406-r3+

2013-11-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
mind), you can make it so that `-p` is an optional parameter, and if not passed no pidfile is created. And voilà, you can make an unconditional patch and even send it upstream for other init systems that do rely on pidfiles that are not OpenRC. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu

Re: [gentoo-dev] logging in openntpd 20080406-r3+

2013-11-29 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Conditionally patching openntpd in the ebuild if a system is using openrc is certainly the way to go. You mean unconditionally here, right? Because pid files should be there, full stop. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

2013-11-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Quick note: I forgot my key from this laptop does not let me commit. I had some fixes done, but I'll have to wait to get back to Ireland to commit again, as the key is physically there. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Package removal without proper last-riting

2013-11-14 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
, but it was always up to the discretion of the maintainer back then. Last riting predates treecleaners by quite a bit. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

2013-11-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Seems like I forgot to select reply all earlier. I'm going to look into that next week. I failed to resetup my monitoring after I left my previous customer and I've reinstalled icinga just this week. I don't understand people's insistence with a single product herd given we don't have enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

2013-11-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Alex Alexander wi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: I don't understand people's insistence with a single product herd given we don't have enough manpower yet and I don't want to have

Re: [gentoo-dev] removing vulnerable versions of dev-lang/v8

2013-11-08 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
to not depend on v8. If made not to depend means bundle, is the bundled version any safer than the ebuild there? If the answer is no, you're now increasing the security issue. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] does v8 shared library make sense with current upstream approach?

2013-09-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.orgwrote: Perfect. Seriously? Perfect because one person agrees with you? Sigh. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: FEATURES=binchecks strip for plain file packages e.g. latex, perl, python

2013-09-20 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
As Michał said. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2013-09-20, o godz. 19:58:51 Justin (jlec) j...@gentoo.org napisał(a): what is your opinion to set FEATURES

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: escape sequences in logs

2013-09-03 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
are basically trash characters that get in the way. You do know that many eclasses (including the Ruby ones) have a setting that enables/disable color output? I keep it enabled on my system but I've always been disabling it for tinderboxes.. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu

Re: [gentoo-dev] New license: Adaptec

2013-08-29 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Tiziano Müller dev-z...@gentoo.org wrote: good point, will go for ADAPTEC then instead Please don't. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: check-reqs* vs CFLAGS=-g

2013-08-02 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Unlikely you screwed up, -O0 makes bigger code than -O2 almost in every case; then -g annotates it. I'm expecting -ggdb to take some few GBs more. It'll be the same if not worse with almost all software, -g3 would make it even worse. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http

Re: [gentoo-dev] check-reqs* vs CFLAGS=-g

2013-08-02 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
clearing at any other -O level). But if you're trying to step through an algorithm, an optimized version of the code will most likely reorder the code that you read from the sources. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-28 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Because it would require us to change a whole load more than just the targets variable. Plus we actually were the first coming up with the solution... Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Brian Dolbec dol

Re: [gentoo-dev] unmasking USE=system-ffmpeg for stable www-client/chromium ebuilds

2013-07-26 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Does this still allow me to use libav? If not I'd like to veto it. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.orgwrote: Currently USE=system-ffmpeg is masked for stable www-client

Re: [gentoo-dev] unmasking USE=system-ffmpeg for stable www-client/chromium ebuilds

2013-07-26 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
If you can start it I can try to get the stable tinderbox running over the weekend. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/7/26 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: remove sci-geosciences/googleearth from the tree

2013-07-22 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
to remove it. Otherwise it will pop up in the tree sooner or later again. Which is a perfect reason to keep it p.maske din tree so that nobody can re-introduce it as they felt it missing. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-07-21 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 21/07/2013 10:10, Pacho Ramos wrote: media-gfx/iscan-data media-gfx/iscan I'll pick up these two (soon as my laptop gets back working).. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: remove sci-geosciences/googleearth from the tree

2013-07-21 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
as Duncan pointed out. Maybe even more than half. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: remove sci-geosciences/googleearth from the tree

2013-07-21 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
not support software with such low QA does not apply It applies perfectly. It's a p.mask for a reason, and can convey reasons. It's your package, do what you want, but stop just trying to force your views into suggestions, just because you already reached your conclusion, please. -- Diego Elio Pettenò

Re: [gentoo-dev] Running tests using virtualx.eclass should be allowed to be forced to run in virtual X always

2013-07-19 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
differently depending on where you launch them. And non-deterministic tests are stupid, useless, broken tests. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Running tests using virtualx.eclass should be allowed to be forced to run in virtual X always

2013-07-19 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
in where you have problems (concurrency problems)... :-) Not during packaging. Those are developer tests. Yes there are difference between the two. But as Ian said, we're off-topic now ;) Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] new category: games-adventure/

2013-07-14 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
I would object... 10 games are wa too few for a new category and especially pkg moves..

Re: [gentoo-dev] new category: games-adventure/

2013-07-14 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
And? Two wrongs don't make a right. And I've said the same for any other proposed category like that.

Re: [gentoo-dev] new category: games-adventure/

2013-07-14 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
there. Not sure if we have rainslick still in tree but it would fit as well. Maybe consider adding a few more, and if we reach the 20 games I wouldn't object. But 10 are way too few, and a roguelike would *not* fit in the genre to begin with. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http

Re: [gentoo-dev] new category: games-adventure/

2013-07-14 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
on adventure/exploration. So either Matt is right or you should really refrain to posting without having a clue about what is being discussed. **We have a frigging games-roguelike category!** -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
meetings, you can cannot multitask, say making your dinner while discussing this or that feature. A VC is a full commitment, and its attractiveness is often much higher _before_ you use it.. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
with VCing or just thought that it looks cool? Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Pavlos Ratis daster...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On Mon

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introduce global dmalloc USE flag?

2013-06-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
? I think we already got a number of packages where that holds true. It was one of the reasons why I did my best to make sure people understand that debug symbols and nostrip should *not* be conflated with USE=debug. If I'm not mistaken, app-editors/nano[debug] is hardly usable. Diego Elio

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Tobias Klausmann klaus...@gentoo.orgwrote: It depends how you run it. We have teams having a video thing open during the day with there geographically-diverse other team members and it works well for them. For those teams, it also improves cohesion.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
writing and understanding written English, let alone spoken. Honestly, I couldn't get over reading a couple of paragraph here, because the premise itself is too much to bear for me, sorry. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Sun, Jun 23, 2013

Re: [gentoo-dev] Temporary DevRel actions for CoC violations

2013-06-19 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
should have been involved in the process. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.orgwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, It is unfortunate to observe constant

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] unpacker.eclass extensions

2013-06-17 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 17/06/2013 06:55, Mike Frysinger wrote: tar -xJf ./$i why doesn't the bzip2 detect as bzip2 ? Capital J is XZ not bzip2.. still, it makes me think it needs a newer version of file to recognize it. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] unpacker.eclass extensions

2013-06-17 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
lzma xJ with _current_ tar will extract both XZ and lzma zJ with _past_ tar will only extract lzma -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-06-16 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 16/06/2013 11:03, Pacho Ramos wrote: media-gfx/iscan-plugin-gt-f720 I'll clean it up so that it behaves like the other iscan-plugins but if somebody has hardware that would be nice to co-maintain (including users) -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] SRC_URI behaviour

2013-06-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
access. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] SRC_URI behaviour

2013-06-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
got CVS access, it's not a threat or a grandstanding, it's a simple boolean logic statement. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] SRC_URI behaviour

2013-06-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
time on it again, so don't expect further mail from me on the topic. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] SRC_URI behaviour

2013-06-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
and something that no sane people would accept. Nobody pays me to waste my time in explaining *again* why VCS ebuilds should be a corner case and not something to spend time making easier to create (because that's what it boils down to). -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] SRC_URI behaviour

2013-06-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
to death. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] SRC_URI behaviour

2013-06-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 15/06/2013 14:34, Ulrich Mueller wrote: restrict+http: (as suggested by the OP) is probably not enough because it doesn't distinguish between fetch and mirror restriction. nofetch+http and nomirror+http ? -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] SRC_URI behaviour

2013-06-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 15/06/2013 14:47, Ulrich Mueller wrote: Or the other way around: {fetch,mirror}+http. I'd rather have RESTRICT apply to all of SRC_URI (as it is now) and use the new syntax to specify any exceptions from the restriction. WFM -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Calling die in a subshell

2013-06-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 15/06/2013 17:06, Mike Gilbert wrote: Are there any objections to removing this warning from the devmanual? Please, go for it. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Calling die in a subshell

2013-06-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 15/06/2013 17:19, hasufell wrote: How does that make any sense? It does not, but I don't remember anybody trying to assert that PMS makes sense in quite a long time. (Yes I still think that the PMS is 90% a waste of time) -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] SRC_URI behaviour

2013-06-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
is a nice idea will ruin it. It's not like I depend on Gentoo for my work anymore. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] SRC_URI behaviour

2013-06-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 15/06/2013 22:17, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: You know what? I really should just leave and see how people who think that a live ebild is a nice idea will ruin it. It's not like I depend on Gentoo for my work anymore. Oh wait, I already know how that's going to happen.. bug #443448 is a nice

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] SRC_URI behaviour

2013-06-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
. Maybe you should think twice about what _you_ have been doing, rather than worrying about my social skills. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving project pages to wiki.gentoo.org

2013-06-10 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org wrote: Err, i do not want to say that wiki is not suite for this purpose, but what's wrong with current situation? Is there something wrong with gorg? Yes, there is something wrong with it... it's called 'gorg'. Or to put it

Re: [gentoo-dev] devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 12/05/2013 14:27, Peter Stuge wrote: I feel strongly against github. Making something like github the primary point of contact communicates many negative things for Gentoo IMO. Oh heavens, for once I agree with Peter. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC USE flag changes

2013-05-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
, so please don't effing go around blaming people without even having a clue about what's going on, you just piss me off. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] new eclass: systemd-next.eclass

2013-04-13 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
It's happening that we seem to have a bunch of crybabies in Gentoo that don't get along together and instead of figuring out their differences are going to screw up users even more. Bunch of chipmunks in our ranks as well I suppose. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http

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