range. For me, a lot of
dedicated and continuous practice is a key component of playing well in the
high and low ranges. Another key factor is improving one's general health,
since horn playing is an athletic activity (and this is especially true for us
old guys).
Regards,
Larry
session.
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individuals in the audience to start with a cappella coughing in the winter and
spontaneous sneezing in the spring. The genius of the composition considers
the audience's need to supplement the quiet periods of a performance with its
own contributions.
Larry
that makes us fall in love with the horn all over again.
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horns than it is with large belled horns, as if anyone cares and shallow
bowled mouthpieces are worse, too. Nickle is worse than brass...
Larry
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as that is required.
Otherwise, I don't need what the F-extension could give me, like better G's and
C's. So, those of you who use the F-extension, how do you use it and how much
do you use it? It sure is nice playing a light horn sans all the extra tubing.
Thanks.
Larry
the reflected sound is all out of tune.
I would think the second effect above would be the more annoying effect.
Larry
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, as much as we love him, is a
chicken-and-egg composer-- where did we first hear that theme?
There is a fun Youtube video about the ubiquitousness of Pachebel's Canon that
surfaces in most music genres.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM
Larry
into the mouthpiece is deleteriously affected by the
pulsating sound reflections coming from the
ceiling fan.
This is a choice between staying cool or sounding good.
Anyway, I'm trying to come up with a new topic...
One with too much time on his hands,
Larry
This wonderful collage of John Williams Music is also on Youtube where it is
more directly accessible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWnC6IbYpgs
Regards,
Larry
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spot on the mouthpiece, in this case, 1/4
above the leadpipe tip.
Regards,
Larry
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that avoiding grease contamination is more important for
keeping the valves operating freely than the brand of oil you use.
Jonathan has the best method, not Farkas on this one.
Respectfully,
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the slides so they don't fly out from water pressure.)
The above system works well. Greg suggests other lubing procedures may work
well, too. Possibly using lots of valve oil and having valve oil abundant
through the horn could work; I don't know.
Regards,
Larry
by putting a drop of the
oil with a couple drops of water between your index finger and thumb, and rub
together for a minute. Ideally, the oil and water maintain separated, however,
some oils form a cloudy emulsion. Keep the latter category of oil away from
your valves!
Regards,
Larry
like Valerie to see humor in situations is also a valid reference
(Palineze sentence structure). Take a look at this video, and see if you don't
get a light hearted reaction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaLRYjaNSywfeature=channel_page
Best regards,
Larry
subject: Re: [Hornlist] RE: Senator McCain NEVER came to the rescue!
I read this rather differently.
Cheers,
Lawrence
Perhaps this could be categorized as an interpretive study? Certainly, there is
much to think about.
Larry
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time demands are getting
out of hand, and this is an irritant to some of us musicians. What are call
times for professionals? An ensemble's call time is becoming a factor for me
in deciding whether I want to join the ensemble.
Regards,
Larry
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Regards, and Merry Christmas,
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use of any
of the above. I don't know if all horn players are affected in this way; I
suspect those with embouchures that are very sensitive to mouthpiece size are
likely to be affected this way.
Regards,
Larry
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that they don't want
to consider this method. Others are grateful for the help that BE offers.
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of that D on the F side of the 8D (as well as the C a second below). But
I also use the Bb side of the 8D throughout all ranges if I want clarity,
quicker response, and better projection.
Larry
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, does the sound coming out
of the house speakers mellow and darken as it travels toward the audience?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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Thanks, Cabbage, for sharing your son's musical
success with us. His innovative use of the horn in a
rock band is worth listening to. Again, the site:
http://www.myspace.com/themumlers
Listen to the piece, Red River Hustle, to hear how
the horn eases into the mood of the song. The word,
mumler
a hot glue gun, applying the hot glue
directly to the bumper location-- should make a
perfect fit, then the excess would be trimmed with a
razor blade. The hot glue comes in varying grades of
hardness
Larry
tell from looking at its piping (using light and
mirror) there is no loss of metal anywhere. With no
noticeable deterioration in 44 years, with tight
slides, I wouldn't know how to forecast its useful
life span.
Larry
changing notes, but a smooth
electronic shift instead. I find it amazing that the
organist did not stop as soon as they heard the first
chord with the choir. Interesting!
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Have a very Kruspe Christmas and a Geyer New Year!
Larry
Deterioration in endurance, accuracy, dexterity,
(loud) volume. One of the big surprises to me is the
large difference among horn players in the effect of
time off. Some players can take time off (several
days, weeks) and seem to hardly miss a step in their
playing when they return to horn.
to
bounce the sound upwards to the ceiling, thus
preserving some of the indirect reflected quality of
the sound that we usually prefer from the horn.
Larry
Be a better friend, newshound, and
know-it-all
it in demanding
ensembles is like dancing with a 160 pound
ballerina... the lift can be difficult, but then you
have more to show off with the accomplishment.
Larry
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Effect of horn playing? Do other horn players enjoy
switching horns, too?
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source of this disk, and indicate how to purchase it.
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has received, he left an most indelible mark on
my son and I that night. If any of you know him personally, I would be grateful
if you would pass my thanks along to him.
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Original message, Fred Baucom wrote
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I don't know if this has come up before, but I'd love recommendations for
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are
playing or how loud they are.
This is the special relativity of music.
Larry
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mutes can do. They
aren't called mutes for nothing. :o)
Larry
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immenselyI was a totally different playerThen
one month down the road I was back to sounding like
dirt again.
I have so much to learn. I hope these posts continue.
Larry
), is that
while the waistline increases, the lips thin out.
Having thick lips is like having fat feet.
Larry
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player.
Pick whatever key you want to emphasize the range
that you want to demonstrate. Played with gusto,
starting with brassy edge if you want then go sweet in
the high soft part. I think it is an outstanding
audition piece.
Larry
this country
great, then on the wonderful music that was
inspiringly composed to celebrate the heroism and
accomplishments of our forefathers. Let's hope this
annual concert can rescue its soul from its present
narcissistic obsession.
Larry
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don't know. Maybe
those with this condition can speak to this
possibility.
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Richard Hirsh wrote:
Actually the human ear is very non-linear... Our
ears definitely do NOT create harmonic overtones. The
wave patterns inside the cochleus are extremely
non-linear.
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My left ear tinnitus, with a fundamental of 4000 Hz,
seems to
. And, no... no (complaining) voices will be
heard, but e-mails will be forthcoming and that is an
undoubtable fact.
Larry
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So far, eight detailed and thoughtful responses to a
mundane and trivial problem (Hans, you are so right!).
Wish we could get this kind of response on the more
interesting and thought provocative issues.
Some months back I posted to request comments on the
horn response differences of thin
This tops them all-- the concert band version of The
Marriage of Figaro Overture. When the saxophones
join in by tackling the cello parts, you know the
music world has reached a new low. Not even the
clarinets on the violin parts can prepare you for this.
There have been some great posts lately about the
different kind of horn sounds.
I am a simple guy in a complex and contradictory kind
of way, but what I think is the goal of one's horn
sound as well as of one's all around horn playing, is
that your soul is to be in the music that you play. I
of Hornswaggle,
basically the local San Diego horn club consisting of
professionals and amateurs. There were a variety of
horns, and in my opinion the player with the best
overall tone (a person who wasn't the best player of
the group) played an 8D.
Larry
I apologize that I didn't identify in my post that the
large throated belled Conn horn with the velvet fog
sound is the 8D.
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pour it through your horn, would be my
guess.
Now go have a good day.
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horns ever since a second n was added to the name of
the horn. Keep complaining and you may find
yourselves at an Imus Sensitivity Training School very
soon.
Happy Friday the 13th, and see you all back next week.
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Ah, at last, another go-around on this topic! There is
so much for each of us to write. I feel sorry for
those starting up with this topic and getting so much
different and sometimes conflicting advice. I think
it helps to understand a few principles.
1. Brass rotor surfaces should be oiled to
... send the request to the person making the offer.
Don't send your request to this 1000-member list.
Others making similar offers of papers-- suggest in
your post that requesters reply directly to you and
not to the list. Thanks.
Larry
can you tell the
difference? :-)
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Prof. Pizka related an experience of being asked by a
desperate person for scanned music, then later being
told, never mind.
Another situation that needs consideration is when you
ask another horn player to substitute in an ensemble.
You need to be the person of authority to make the
offer. I
When a friend decided to reduce his inventory of horns
and sell his Paxman 10 (medium belled, yellow brass Bb
single, stopping valve, F-extension), I jumped to buy
it, for two reasons:
1) This is a horn that can ease me into my senior
years since it is easy to blow and play, and is light
to hold.
(as part of
normal maintenance on brass horns)? Thanks in advance
for your advice.
Larry
Have a burning question?
Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know
course of action, so I'm asking
composers/arrangers and asking music directors what
their views are regarding the interaction of alto
saxes and horns.
Larry
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detrimental factor regarding judgment and problem
solving skills. What's the best age for being a horn
player? Doesn't matter for each of us because we
can't change that. Age may affect each of us
differently, so there can be no general judgment. I'm
of a beginning student! I wouldn't want to try
this in public even today!
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that with my lips it
can play the 1st horn part of Konzertstuck?
Larry
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this sounds familiar to you;
most of us experience these phenomena at the podium
from sitting in the horn section of an orchestra.
String theory also applies, but only for orchestras.
Regards,
Larry
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to play as a unity, to bring
intensity to the music beyond the mere mechanics.
The key awareness issue for clear-headed ensemble
amateurs is -- are we having fun?
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The most exhilarating natural horn playing doesn't
have anything to do with whether your horn has valves
or not. It has to do with whether you have no clothes
on or not while you play horn.
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It is okay for your guys to print your supporting
thoughts of Hans, but then to attach the offending
diatribe, to attach the trash all over again, just
isn't thinking on your part. When you strongly don't
like something, don't reprint it.
I appreciate Hans, too.
See how I can state that
1. Don't leave your horn in an unattended auto.
2. Don't leave your horn unattended when in a public
place.
3. Don't sit your horn on a chair (during a rehearsal
or concert break).
Treat these rules like firmware to the brain. Prevent
theft of your horn. Prevent your horn from being
knocked off
I could write a master's degree thesis in the subject
of statistics on the occurrence of these dog and cat
fights on the Memphis list. Appears that the median
of event happenings is about every six months with a
standard deviation of one month. If we view these
events from a mathematical and
Steve Mumford wrote:
The only drawback I can think of oiling the rotor
faces is that anything more than a drop or two will
wander elsewhere in the horn, melt your tuning slide
grease and transport it back into your valves,
which will eventually make for slow music...
I think your
Regarding William Botte's concern that beta blockers
may be performance enhancing drugs similar to drug
enhancing drugs used by athletes, consider the facts
that beta blockers lower blood pressure and reduce the
rate of the pulse. Reducing blood pressure and
reducing the rate of the heart beat
that are beyond your
confident playing ability. While playing for
enjoyment, one can still work seriously and put in a
lot of time and effort, but the goal is musical
expression, not perfection.
Larry
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material (styrofoam) but
only if the external shell is very rigid and strong
(otherwise a crushed hard case causes a crushed bell
with tight packing).
Larry
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you can explain why your
interpretation of others' posts has been so strident
lately.
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;
3) play as a horn duet with piano accompaniment;
4) reorganize the arrangement and give some of the
melody to the piano;
5) go buy a different arrangement (where?).
Suggestions?
Thanks.
Larry
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For those who keep putting up distracting arguments,
arguing with me regarding concepts that I never made,
judge yourselves as horn teachers by how many of your
students are still playing horn at age 30, age 40, age
50, and beyond. Of your students that quit, why did
they quit? You tell us.
At the risk of sounding like a spoiled child, I think
a basic approach to horn playing should be, to do what
you enjoy. This is not written naively. Most of us
are accomplished in life, e.g., I am a retired
research engineer; I know discipline and hard work are
necessary for achieving many goals
music can always be a
challenge, too, to play simple music more beautifully.
I find some of the simple horn passages to be
artistically challenging.
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Larry
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Steve,
I hope you aren't in one of the concert bands that
plays at one of two dynamic levels: loud and louder.
Concert bands can play exquisitely if disciplined and
lead by a discriminating conductor, but unfortunately,
these are in the minority. Here are some choices:
1) find a different band;
Rachel wrote:
Hornfolks: (full time pros may ignore this)
Do you remember the days when NP orchestras allowed us
to participate FREE of charge?
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There are NP (non-professional) ensembles around that
do not charge its members a fee to play. Church
Many if not most are funded as an adjunct course of a
community college or public adult education program.
As a community college program, each musician enrolls
as a student and pays approx. $26 per semester for one
credit hour. As a public adult education class, the
musician also enrolls, fills
Last Friday, this list had a brief exchange regarding
the relevance of the concept of inner embouchure. I
want to point out that Froydis Ree Wekre in Thoughts
of Playing the Horn Well has a subchapter, The use
of the muscles inside the mouthpiece rim. She
writes, The center muscles operate
I had been having difficulty with a developed wolf
note (note that didn't want to speak-- a quiet wolf!),
the high F#. I spent daily practice time trying to
get this note to speak.
Rachel advised me to check my bumper settings and also
to clean the horn. In my case, water pressure
cleaning did
John Mason wrote:
I just noticed this exchange and have this to say to
Fred and Larry: You're wrong about Rachel.
Yikes! I started this silly Rachel, you are wrong
thread, by intending to poke humor at Rachel's, If I
can do it, anyone can do it, regarding
).
2) Shallow-bowled mpcs, while helping with high
register playing, make the partials seem closer such
that accuracy becomes a problem (high notes to the
embouchure feel closer and are harder to pinpoint).
Thanks. Larry
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friendships have developed this way. This club
isn't at all like Opus Dei.
Larry,
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the faces of the audience.
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I'm having a problem with tonguing cleanly in the
range from about first line E to third space C, with
the start of the notes sounding like there is a
reverberation. In other words, the initial attack has
a slight shattering sound. Suggestions? Thanks.
Larry
and on
the canvas, I think we need to be intimate with the
sound of our horn.
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I commented on not flaming Chris for his critical
opinion based on listening to the sample sound clips
at:
http://www.ericewazen.com/newsite/music/balladehorn.html
Willing to admit that I could be wrong, I listened to
them again. Again, I come away with the opinion that
these sound clips are
Bill Gross wrote:
One annoying bit that a conductor of a local band I
participate in is that we never play a piece through
from beginning to end after the first reading. We'll
wait until a performance to do that again.
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Chris wrote:
Hmm, trite and vapid come to my mind before beautiful
:) De gustibus et
cetera
Flame suit on,
Chris
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[Chris is responding to:]
--- Christine
Mr Ewazen's music is so beautiful.
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From: Russ...
I'll second Linda's recommendation. This is a
Wendell wrote:
Scott Laskey makes the Gail Williams mouthpiece
although he doesn't call it that. It's otherwise known
as the 85GW and is the same as his 85G, which I use,
except for having a slightly different (thinner) rim.
I like this mouthpiece a lot and hope to buy some more
if i can ever get
How many other members of the list have wax paper and
a fixed belled horn? Those of us in this category
have to remain silent in this screwy thread of
arguments, since we don't rub wax paper anywhere on
our horns.
One of my much younger colleagues asked me if I get
slide grease on my concert
Bill Gross asked:
Did you buy a new Laskey mp or have they come out
with a new one?
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The Laskey website describes what they have:
www.Laskey.com
Scott has come out with a shallower cup design, the
J, and he also has new rim diameters that split
between
Steve Freides presented a discussion on how supportive
conductors could be. I haven't personally played in
an ensemble for a conductor as positive as portrayed
by Steve. A grief we get as we mature as horn players
is our confrontation of the limitations of our
ensembles and of our conductors.
At
I writing as a music-uneducated horn playing amateur.
What do music schools teach student music conductors?
Do they teach the following things:
1) Using rehearsal time efficiently. Do they teach
conductors to make several mental notes through the
run-through, so that after several minutes of
Just seems that it is a matter of time before other
ensemble players do damage to one's horn by tipping
over music stands or by swinging their horn into ours.
I make mental notes about specific players that seem
to put my horn at high risk, and I protect my horn
from them the best I can.
.
I want to ask those who hate or dislike Mozart, why
they feel this way about him. I'm really perplexed on
this.
Thank you,
Larry
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Mastery of the low range does not necessarily mean
that the upper range will work well. What playing
well in the extreme low range and playing well in the
extreme high range have in common is mastery and
control of the embouchure with good air support.
While a low C will not need the strength
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