Re: Why isn't OMVS command integrated with ISPF?

2007-12-04 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Of what value are such progress bars other than proving useless animation can also be provided in TSO sessions? Those development resources would better be working on real enhancements. -- Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For

Doyle Banks/Mainline is out until 12/10/2007.

2007-12-04 Thread Doyle Banks
I will be out of the office starting 12/03/2007 and will not return until 12/10/2007. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Jim Cudworth (1-630-371-4911 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) or Sheila Bratton (1-317-443-2142, [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

Re: KSDS CA split, no CI split

2007-12-04 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Radoslaw, Have you tried loading the data in reverse key order? (10, 9, 8, 7, etc) Chuck -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: KSDS CA split, no CI

Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-04 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I am aware of the NTP support within STP. But if you are not running sysplex and STP is not installed, how can I sync. Time between network and Z/OS? Thanks for your ideas. Itschak Mugzach, Director SecuriTeam Software ltd. Tel: +972 (522) 986404 Skype: Securiteam-Software Email: [EMAIL

Re: Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-04 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Kees, can you give more details ? Manual, product name, etc. Is this a uss daemon? Itschak Itschak Mugzach, Director SecuriTeam Software ltd. Tel: +972 (522) 986404 Skype: Securiteam-Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for large mails -Original Message- From:

Re: Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am aware of the NTP support within STP. But if you are not running sysplex and STP is not installed, how can I sync. Time between network and Z/OS? Thanks for your ideas. You can run an NTP server on z/OS and

Re: KSDS CA split, no CI split

2007-12-04 Thread R.S.
Michael Poil wrote: RS, Just remembered a VSAM gottcha. After initial load yit is better to ALTER the dataset to use FSPC(0 0) if you are using Sequential Insert Strategy so as to reduce the potential for CA splits. Mike, Bingo! I did the following: DEF CL ...FSPC(15 15) REPRO (2

Re: Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-04 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Kees, Did you mean SNTP? Itschak Mugzach, Director SecuriTeam Software ltd. Tel: +972 (522) 986404 Skype: Securiteam-Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for large mails -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread David Cole
At 12/3/2007 05:04 PM, Dave Kopischke wrote: With all due respect, I don't believe IBM has an obligation to you or any of us to act responsibly nor fairly in this matter. This is IBM's property and they are entitled to sell it or allow access to it or give it away in any way they see fit. And

Money Just Doesn’t Work Any More

2007-12-04 Thread Clement Clarke
See the formatted version here: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~oscarptyltd/Money_Just_Doesnt_Work_Any_More.html http://members.ozemail.com.au/%7Eoscarptyltd/Money_Just_Doesnt_Work_Any_More.html Clement Clarke -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Money Just Doesn’t Work Any More

2007-12-04 Thread Clement Clarke
* Money Just Doesn’t Work Any More.* * IF WE DON'T HAVE A PLANET WITH TREES TO LIVE ON THERE WILL BE NO ECONOMY, NO FOOD AND SOME PRETTY TERRIBLE OUTCOMES.* Lisa P, Melbourne. Does money buy us freedom, or houses or health or anything, as the Politicians would have us believe? Why do we

AXR0401I

2007-12-04 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, When we IPL or z/OS 1.9 system we get this message: AXR0401I DYNALLOC FOR SYS1.SAXREXEC FAILED. RC=0004, RSN=17080002 We get this message because we've renamed SYS1.SAXREXEC. This library is part of the System REXX component. Is there a parameter that will tell the system the new

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Clement Clarke
It is another OS/2 debacle, isn't it? Best OS at the time, and we had to put up with a decade of Windows 98 etc before they got a relatively stable OS with Win 2k etc. All because of money... see next email. Clement Clarke David Cole wrote: At 12/3/2007 05:04 PM, Dave Kopischke wrote:

Re: Money Just Doesn't Work Any More

2007-12-04 Thread Clement Clarke
No big laugh I actually sent that out to all our Pollies a few weeks BEFORE the election. It created a bif of discussion, to say the least. But - think about it. Does money help, or hinder? Clem PS: The Government thrown out was a right wing government. I am not sure what we put in it's

Re: GRS / ICF

2007-12-04 Thread Alvaro Quintupray
Hi, Matthew. Yes, I want to create a Coupling Facility inside a single machine. Previously I have had GRS in ring mode, but there were problems of enqueue in the CICS regions on one of the LPar. So now, I'll look the ICP CHPID definitions too. Thanks so match. Saludos. Álvaro.

Re: AXR0401I

2007-12-04 Thread Bob Shannon
We get this message because we've renamed SYS1.SAXREXEC. As far as I know, the library name is hard-coded and can't be changed. System Rexx obviously needs some work in this area. The ability to concatenate libraries would be greatly appreciated. Bob Shannon Rocket Software

Re: Money Just Doesn't Work Any More

2007-12-04 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 21:33 +0900, Clement Clarke wrote: See the formatted version here: You moonlighting for the ABC Clem ??? ... See http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/04/2108688.htm For those unaware, Australia has just tossed out it's (latest) Prime Minister and his attendant

Re: Money Just Doesn’t Work Any More

2007-12-04 Thread David Day
Clem, Move to Cuba, you'll be a happier individual. --Dave Day - Original Message - From: Clement Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:33 AM Subject: Money Just Doesn’t Work Any More See the

SV: Money Just Doesn't Work Any More

2007-12-04 Thread Thomas Berg
Hrrrm. Let's end this thread. _ Thomas Berg Specialist IT Utveckling Swedbank AB (Publ) -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För David Day Skickat: den 4 december

Re: Data Center Theft

2007-12-04 Thread Timothy Sipples
Ed Gould writes: Please lets us know that the DS6000 is capable of remote mirroring and that it can indeed be done. It is, and it can, yes. It does support Metro Mirror/PPRC and Global Mirror/XRC. You need two (or more) of them for mirroring of course. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Roger Bowler
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:04:52 -0600, Dave Kopischke wrote: I don't believe IBM has an obligation to you or any of us to act responsibly nor fairly in this matter. This is IBM's property and they are entitled to sell it or allow access to it or give it away in any way they see fit. Dave, that may

Speaking of Crypto (PCI and System z)

2007-12-04 Thread Walt Farrell
As the topic of crypto on System z has come up, and someone specifically mentioned PCI (Payment Card Industry), I figured I should mention that our System z security web page has a focus on PCI right now, with a couple of white papers, an announcement about a PCI and System z webcast we're hosting

Re: AXR0401I

2007-12-04 Thread Meir Zohar
This library is indeed hard coded and cannot be changed currently. Meir Zohar -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the

Re: Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-04 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:26 AM Subject: Native NTP support on Z/OS I am aware of the NTP support within STP. But if you are not running sysplex and STP is not installed, how can I

Re: Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Yes, that is what we have running. See: z/OSCommunications Server IP Configuration Guide Version 1 Release 6 Document Number SC31-8775-06 2.14 Chapter 22. SNTPD daemon Kees. Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Bowler) writes: IBM worked long and hard over many years to successfully establish S/360 and its successors as *the* standard computer

Re: Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Yes, that is what we have running. See: z/OSCommunications Server IP Configuration Guide Version 1 Release 6 Document Number SC31-8775-06 2.14 Chapter 22. SNTPD daemon Kees. Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL

Re: Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-04 Thread Itschak Mugzach
So. How Oracle, UDB and other products deal with that time changing back on other platforms? Itschak Mugzach, Director SecuriTeam Software ltd. Tel: +972 (522) 986404 Skype: Securiteam-Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for large mails -Original Message- From:

Re: Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-04 Thread Itschak Mugzach
And you don't suffer from symptoms like those mentioned by Pinnacle? Itschak Mugzach, Director SecuriTeam Software ltd. Tel: +972 (522) 986404 Skype: Securiteam-Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for large mails -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: Crypto Related Posts

2007-12-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:51:43 -0500, Bob Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I have long wondered: SYS1.SAMPLIB(CSFTEST) exists on some of our systems, but not others. This seems to be random, not correlated with OS release (although it's available on our 1.9 system). In our shop it's available

Is there any tool or userexit of MVS console message filter ?

2007-12-04 Thread Tsai Laurence
hi listers, try to locate tool/user exit of MVS console message filter for the event triggered automatically. I know Ttivoli SA/390 , and control-o. If the automation event is simple . Is there any cheaper solution ? Does anybody know that before ? Thanks ! Sincerely, Laurence

Re: Is there any tool or userexit of MVS console message filter ?

2007-12-04 Thread Field, Alan C.
MPF Exits - look for IEAVMXIT documentation and at MPFLSTxx in PARMLIB. -Original Message- hi listers, try to locate tool/user exit of MVS console message filter for the event triggered automatically. I know Ttivoli SA/390 , and control-o. If the automation event is simple . Is there

Re: Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Of course not: here z/OS is the server and others synch their time to the z/OS time. Kees. Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... And you don't suffer from symptoms like those mentioned by Pinnacle? Itschak Mugzach, Director SecuriTeam Software ltd.

Re: Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-04 Thread R.S.
Itschak Mugzach wrote: So. How Oracle, UDB and other products deal with that time changing back on other platforms? Definition of communism: a system which is fighting to solve the problem which are never occured elsewhere. g Ragrding to original question: in order to have z/OS as a

Divide the master catalog

2007-12-04 Thread Raquel Calvo Olmos
Hi there, we have an 8-way sysplex with a unique master catalog for these 8 systems. Our customer wants to separate this master catalog in 5 master catalogs where each master catalog is shared by 2 systems. Does anybody have a similar situation? how can we mantain the same contained in these 5

Re: Is there some cross reference between CPU types and machine instructions supported?

2007-12-04 Thread Roger Bowler
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:16:10 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: Is there some cross reference between CPU types and machine instructions supported? Perhaps in manual form? Binyamin, This document might help:

Re: Is there any tool or userexit of MVS console message filter ?

2007-12-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tsai Laurence Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Is there any tool or userexit of MVS console message filter ? hi listers, try to locate

Re: Divide the master catalog

2007-12-04 Thread Staller, Allan
I am not sure what you are asking. Perhaps you can provide more details. The whole point of a SYSPLEX is to SHARE (almost) EVERYTHING. I would be attempting to exceed the customer's requirement go to one master catalog. snip To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Divide the master catalog Hi

Re: Money Just Doesnt Work Any More

2007-12-04 Thread Howard Brazee
On 4 Dec 2007 04:40:33 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clement Clarke) wrote: So, what happened? We have been told over and over and over again that having money is a good thing. Who is telling us over and over again that having money is a good thing? Some things we figure out for ourselves,

Re: Is CPACF enough to successfully run sample ICSF COBOL program ?

2007-12-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: Ernest Nachtigall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 4:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is CPACF enough to successfully run sample ICSF COBOL program ? On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:19:28 -0500, Farley, Peter x23353 [EMAIL

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: some recent topic drift in thread that wandered into run-up/justification for 360

Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-12-04 Thread Rob Scott
You have a locked catalog - you did check the messages and codes manuals for IDC3009I, right? Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-12-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: CATALOG ERROR Good Day Gentle Readers, I am trying to define a user catalog and I am

CATALOG ERROR

2007-12-04 Thread esmie moo
Good Day Gentle Readers, I am trying to define a user catalog and I am unsuccessful. The error message (please see below) points to a Security problem. I checked with Security and they say that it is not a Security issue. Could anybody tell me where I can look? DEFINE

Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-12-04 Thread Larry Crilley
RETURN CODE 186 Explanation: Error attempting to lock a catalog or access a locked catalog. 2 Explanation: Access was denied for

Re: Divide the master catalog

2007-12-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:32:04 -0600, Raquel Calvo Olmos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, we have an 8-way sysplex with a unique master catalog for these 8 systems. Our customer wants to separate this master catalog in 5 master catalogs where each master catalog is shared by 2 systems. Does

Re: Why isn't OMVS command integrated with ISPF?

2007-12-04 Thread Don Leahy
On Dec 4, 2007 3:03 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of what value are such progress bars other than proving useless animation can also be provided in TSO sessions? Those development resources would better be working on real enhancements. -- Peter Hunkeler CREDIT

Re: GRS / ICF

2007-12-04 Thread Skip Robinson
GRS star is vastly superior in performance to ring mode. We saw a huge improvement in converting even what amounted to a one-member sysplex. Some points to consider. -- While GRS ring can be configured to cover almost any (sub)set of systems in a shared complex, the scope of GRS star is *exactly*

Re: Divide the master catalog

2007-12-04 Thread Rugen, Len
Adding to what Mark said, being a University, we do create a lot of TSO ID's and therefore aliases. We have a pretty simple ISPF / Rexx panel that randomly assigns a user catalog (from a pool of 4 or 5) for a new alias and then creates that alias in all master catalogs. It's pretty simple to

Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-12-04 Thread esmie moo
Thanks to all. I removed the LOCK and it worked. The reason I used the LOCK to prevent updates to this CATALOG because it is shared. Larry Crilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RETURN CODE 186 Explanation: Error attempting to lock a catalog or access a locked catalog. 2 Explanation: Access

Re: Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:53:15 +0100, R.S. wrote: Itschak Mugzach wrote: So. How Oracle, UDB and other products deal with that time changing back on other platforms? Definition of communism: a system which is fighting to solve the problem which are never occured elsewhere. g Over a decade ago,

Re: Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
/snip perfectly synchronized. But, all told, the prices I've heard would seem driven more by customer need and lack of an alternative than by supplier costs. -- gil In my opinion prices in most area's, from software via internet accounts to TV's, are determined by what the market is

Re: Divide the master catalog

2007-12-04 Thread Hal Merritt
I'm a little confused: I think you meant to say 'shared master', not 'unique master'. One way to propagate master updates is to have each of the masters defined as user catalogs to all the other masters. To do an update (such as adding a new alias), execute the command five times, once for each

Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-12-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The reason I used the LOCK to prevent updates to this CATALOG because it is shared. That's not the purpose of LOCK. It's for recovery/operational purposes, IIRC. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Crypto hardware performance

2007-12-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:33:29 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that the CPACF instructions are just that - single instructions. But so are AR, MVCL, and CFC - quite a range. (I'm guessing that CFC takes a long time to execute. It's description takes a long time to

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Doc Farmer
I hate to say it, but I hope IBM loses this legal fight. Why? Come one, be serious. How many of us here would LOVE to have our own mainframe sitting on a spare laptop, just for bragging rights alone? Well, I just finished up this work on my mainframe, and... is an ego boost equivalent to

Re: Divide the master catalog

2007-12-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 09:48:17 -0600, Rugen, Len [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding to what Mark said, being a University, we do create a lot of TSO ID's and therefore aliases. We have a pretty simple ISPF / Rexx panel that randomly assigns a user catalog (from a pool of 4 or 5) for a new alias and

Re: Copy replacing without pseudo code

2007-12-04 Thread Lynd, Eugene (Contractor) (J6C)
Clark Morris wrote: You might even make a stink about the lack of improvements in the language that is supposedly the one of the future. Personally, given IBM and other vendor actions, I believe it is a cash cow on a long term death bed. At the Tampa Share, I think, Tom Ross announced that he

Re: Crypto Related Posts

2007-12-04 Thread Hal Merritt
Must be nice to be untouched by this :-) This is not sudden: many of us have been dancing with this bear for a year or two now. We have mandates to increase security to reduce identity theft and fraud. The bar gets higher and higher on each iteration. -Original Message- From:

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Lindy Mayfield
I was thinking (dreaming) today about what if when I giving training for MVS stuff and each student had their own mainframe instead of connecting to a central one. We could do so much more. Here is what I wonder. Does IBM want to be a software company, a hardware company, or a service provider?

Re: Crypto Related Posts

2007-12-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Must be nice to be untouched by this I was affect as far back as 1990, working for a bank. We used 4753's, which were PC/AT's with a channel to channel connection. And, you could only do 50 security calls per second. I think one chip on a z/990 can do almost 12,000. - Too busy driving to stop

Re: Crypto Related Posts

2007-12-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:06:21 -0600, Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Must be nice to be untouched by this :-) This is not sudden: many of us have been dancing with this bear for a year or two now. We have mandates to increase security to reduce identity theft and fraud. The bar gets higher

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Doc Farmer
Wow! Is it the Fourth of Joulukuuta already? Seems like only yesterday that it was the 38th day of Kunagonda... While IBM is one of the few companies to handle multiple functions (it's a floor wax *and* a dessert topping), I sometimes think that they're believing their own hype that the

Re: Crypto Related Posts

2007-12-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Not untouched... been running ICSF since z900 years ago. We went from 4753's, to 9672-Rn6, to z/900, at the Bank I worked at. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
David Cole wrote: I no longer believe that IBM is acting in the long term interest of the z/OS industry. Well here is my $0.05 worth... How long did Amdahl last ? Os shall I say How far were they prepared to support the people that trusted them enough to buy a mainframe off them... I firmly

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Lindy, I agree with all the points you made below, but... Surely the copy of windows that you are running is fully licensed? Why expect IBM to give it away for free. Dell gives discounts on desktops to employees of companies that buy enough Dell servers from them, but they do not give it away

Tues, Dec 4 - Linux on System z Security - Live Virtual Class

2007-12-04 Thread Pamela Christina in cold and snowY Endicott
In response to listserv questions and offline comments about the LVCs and the snow, plus a question for you about LVC topics. The LVC's are listed on the VM events calendar. http://www.vm.ibm.com I don't think there's an email subscriber list for LVC's, but if you like to be subscribed to

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
How long did Amdahl last? Until 64-bit, like HDS. Even though IBM was just open (as required) with the z/Arch, both companies couldn't afford the RD. But, Amdahl really went down the tubes, while HDS still (at least) sells disk for the mainframe. I remember the last time I talked to an Amdahl

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Doc Farmer
Who said free? I'd happily pay a C-note for software like this (that's $100 American for our readers in Rio Linda). That gives IBM a clear $20 profit on the deal! As to licensing, I'm CERTAIN that the bright bulbs deep within the Armonk Giant's underground volcano laboratory in the

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Dalsen, Herbie Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly Lindy, I agree with all the points you

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lindy Mayfield) writes: I was thinking (dreaming) today about what if when I giving training for MVS stuff and each student had their own

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
John wrote: Not really accurate, but sounds like Borland's explanation. I can read upside down (slowly). So it is possible for two people to legally read a single book simultaneously The only time I have seen someone prepared to wait for the slow reader, was couples that are in love, and only in

RMM Scratch list short

2007-12-04 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
I'm trying to get RMM to list all the scratch tapes it knows about which start with the letter 'V'. Here is the command I'm using... RMM SV OWNER(*) VOLUME(V*) STATUS(SCRATCH) LIMIT(*) But it will only list the scratch volumes to V0.I have volumes defined out to V4. Anyone have any

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 10:12:40 -0600, Doc Farmer wrote: Come on, IBM! Make that software available to IBM-MAIN'ers, RACF-L'ers, etc., for $100 a pop, and you'll be able to make at least $20 profit on each One PMR on such a system would put IBM in the red. Who would pay for software support? How

RES: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-04 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Angel, What message appear in SYSLOG when the NOTIFY is issued and you're not logged on ? Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254/DPCD Alphaville Engenharia de Software - Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 Fax: 55 11

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 06:56:23 -0500, David Cole wrote: WADR (BTW, I hate that phrase...) I just didn't want to start a flame war. We probably agree more than we disagree... And I probably read more into your post than you intended, so I apologize for that. But we are all in the same boat. We

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 10:12:40 -0600, Doc Farmer

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 12:46:55 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 10:12:40 -0600, Doc Farmer wrote: Come on, IBM! Make that software available to IBM-MAIN'ers, RACF-L'ers, etc., for $100 a pop, and you'll be able to make at least $20 profit on each One PMR on such a system would put

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Doc Farmer
Who pays for software support now? WE do. Besides, wouldn't you have to have a software contract that would *provide* said support? IBM could always draft the agreement for the PC-based z/OS to have limited coverage (an RTFM clause would probably work). Besides, IBM requires users to provide

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Dalsen, Herbie Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly SNIP Well here is my $0.05 worth... How long did

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Good points. Here are my opinions. First, you cannot really seriously run z/OS and call it a mainframe without comparable hardware. So in essence the use of the software is for training, development and other similar purposes. A copy of Windows on the other hand is the real thing. Second IBM

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 12:46:55 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 10:12:40 -0600, Doc Farmer wrote: Come on, IBM! Make that software available to IBM-MAIN'ers, RACF-L'ers, etc., for $100 a pop, and you'll be able to make at least $20 profit on each One PMR on such a system would put

Using CSVINFO

2007-12-04 Thread David Day
Based upon a fairly recent discussion here on IBM-Main, I've changed my code to now use CSVINFO(as opposed to using LPDE's) to identify modules in the PLPA. The macro is coded CSVINFO FUNC=LPA,ENV=MVS. My MIPR routine is getting called with a MODI data for both alias and real load modules,

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John [ snip ] Such software could be distributed with no support. But then, people would want access to PTFs and the like. If nothing else, that would cost IBM (or somebody) for Intenet bandwidth.

Re: RMM Scratch list short

2007-12-04 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Jeffrey Deaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:40 PM Subject: RMM Scratch list short I'm trying to get RMM to list all the scratch tapes it knows about which start with the letter 'V'. Here is the

Re: Using CSVINFO

2007-12-04 Thread Robert Wright
David Day wrote: Based upon a fairly recent discussion here on IBM-Main, I've changed my code to now use CSVINFO(as opposed to using LPDE's) to identify modules in the PLPA. The macro is coded CSVINFO FUNC=LPA,ENV=MVS. My MIPR routine is getting called with a MODI data for both alias and

Re: Using CSVINFO

2007-12-04 Thread David Day
It doesn't on my system. Bit is not set in the MODI data area returned. - Original Message - From: Robert Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: Using CSVINFO David Day wrote: Based

Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-04 Thread Angel Tamayo
Thanks a lot for your responses. The answer for the last three questions: 1.- Did you then check for the IKJEESnn or IKJVSNXn system exits: We are not using those exits. 2.- Are there any messages in the SYSLOG at the point in time where a batch job would normally execute the NOTIFY?: At the end

Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-04 Thread Field, Alan C.
Did something change in PARMLIB member IKJTSO00? Are you using the same PARMLIB on 1.8 as 1.7? Here is the SEND section from ours: SEND /* SEND COMMAND DEFAULTS */ + OPERSEND(ON) /* */ + USERSEND(ON)

Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-04 Thread Angel Tamayo
There is no differences between SEND section in z/OS 1.7 and SEND section in z/OS 1.8 but it is different than the yours: THE FOLLOWING ARE THE PARMLIB OPTIONS FOR SEND: OPERSEND(ON) USERSEND(ON) SAVE(ON) CHKBROD(OFF) LOGNAME(*) USEBROD(ON) MSGPROTECT(OFF) SYSPLEXSHR(OFF)

Re: Using CSVINFO

2007-12-04 Thread Robert Wright
David Day wrote: It doesn't on my system. Bit is not set in the MODI data area returned. - Original Message - From: Robert Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: Using CSVINFO See

CSVQUERY and AMODE64

2007-12-04 Thread Roland Schiradin
CSVQUERY doesn't return any info for AMODE64. Alternate function/macro? Regards Roland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Ian
IBM already do give software away You can get the WAS Community Edition as well as the DB2 Express Community edition. You can develop applications using DB2 Express-c and sell it for profit. Microsoft actively tries to get Mainframe shops to convert to the MS Data Center product or at leats

Re: Copy replacing without pseudo code

2007-12-04 Thread Roland Schiradin
See also http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0711L=ibm- mainP=R28085D=1H=0I=1O=DT=0 AFAIR the requirement for this is already accepted by IBM in 2004. Roland Clark Morris wrote: You might even make a stink about the lack of improvements in the language that is supposedly the one of the

Re: Using CSVINFO

2007-12-04 Thread David Day
TMMODI_ATTR2,MODI_MINOR IS THIS A MINOR ENTRY POINT BZGTLP0550NO ICM R4,15,MODI_5_PTRGET PTR TO MODI_5 DSECT BZGTLP0550NO MINOR ENTRY USING MODI_5,R4 MVC APLPMJNM,MODI_8_BYTE_MAJOR_NAME In the above code, MODI_ATTR2 is at offset x'18' into the MODI_1

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Kirk Wolf
Its great that IBM informally supports IBM-MAIN, but most of the support comes from users. Doesn't IBM benefit from IBM-MAIN as well? I agree with many others on this thread - an open z architecture platform benefits not only users, but IBM. IMO - - The architecture *interfaces* (POP) should be

Re: CSVQUERY and AMODE64

2007-12-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:25:09 -0600 Roland Schiradin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :CSVQUERY doesn't return any info for AMODE64. Alternate function/macro? Is the last bit of OUTEPA(64) set? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill -

Re: CSVQUERY and AMODE64

2007-12-04 Thread John Sullivan
CSVQUERY doesn't return any info for AMODE64. Alternate function/macro? Regards Roland === What return code did you get? According to Assembler Services it accepts _any_ AMODE caller. Also, there are a series of keywords that

No z/OS UNIX Support in System REXX?

2007-12-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
IEF196I IGD103I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME SYS00110 ICH408I JOB(AXR04 ) STEP(AXR04 ) CL(PROCESS ) OMVS SEGMENT NOT DEFINED Anyone got this to work? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Ed Gould
On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:53 PM, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly On

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