On Wednesday, 05/07/2008 at 03:51 EDT, Wakser, David
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If anyone can share some real SMF data from a z/OS system,
please contact me privately - not through the list, Thanks, in advance.
Since you're looking for z/OS SMF data, you should ask in IBM-MAIN.
Alan Altmark
Alan:
Probably, but I don't belong (subscribe) there - and I figured
there were plenty of z/VM shops that hosted z/OS systems also. If you
think this was an inappropriate place to make this request, I apologize.
David Wakser
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
On: Wed, May 07, 2008 at 09:44:45PM -0400,Marty Zimelis Wrote:
}My recollection is that there's only an allocation bit map on a
} page-extent basis. The only way I can think of to track down the page is to
} figure out what the CCPV value* is for the page, then traverse all the
} PGMBKs for
Does anyone have a z/OS guest running under z/VM using Hipersockets?
I am still unable to get my z/OS guest under z/VM to communicate over
Hipersockets. The z/OS running in an LPAR works perfectly.
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Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems
On Thursday, 05/08/2008 at 08:38 EDT, Wakser, David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Probably, but I don't belong (subscribe) there - and I figured
there were plenty of z/VM shops that hosted z/OS systems also. If you
think this was an inappropriate place to make this request, I apologize.
I wouldn't
No, no messages, other than that the device initialized okay.
EZZ4313I INITIALIZATION COMPLETE FOR DEVICE IUTIQDFF
I know the CHPID works, because TCP/IP in that z/VM works with the
Hipersockets.
q chpid
ff
Path FF online to devices 0720 0721 0722 0723 0724 0725 0726
0727
Path FF online to
Are there any tools for working with Hipersockets? Like being able to Query
VSWITCH? Is it possible to determine what LPAR/IP Stack is connected to a
Hipersocket lan? Determine IP address as such, much like Query VSWITCH
DETAILS???
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Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems
On Thu, 8 May 2008 08:45:21 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone have a z/OS guest running under z/VM using Hipersockets?
I am still unable to get my z/OS guest under z/VM to communicate over
Hipersockets. The z/OS running in an LPAR works perfectly.
Verify that the CHPID of
Is there not an indication of which disk a page is on? That would be
sufficient for this purpose. You would not need to know where is on the
disk.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
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This is a page disk. CP will do the screaming. After all, it is a
CP_Owned disk. And if it screams, its next action will undoubtedly cause
the DRAIN to complete :-)
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
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Wow - 2 full years? I've been doing VM (exclusively) for 26 years, and
I am but a mere Pawn... :)
-Mike
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:09 AM
To:
I'm replying to both Rich and Marcy. Thanks for your thoughts.
Regarding the real switch port, I understand it is set up (i.e. configured??)
to route all network-defined VLANs, including 304, to the switch port of the
OSA.
Marcy, I am expecting the VSWITCH to do the tagging, so you confirmed
Thanks Richard and Mary Ellen, I'll give NFS a look. Unfortunately, my
client considers NFS an unsafe technology so even if it can do what I
need I'll have an uphill fight with the security auditors (but that has
never stopped me in the past.). :)
-Mike
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From: The
I am not sure what the options are for external timers and I think the
z9's and probably z10's have some new way of obtaining time.
We currently have external timers that are somehow magically connected
to the zVM lpars. The timers obtain time from a naval observatory.
Anyway, electricians managed
There isn't any details information like you're looking for. You
just have q osa type hipers to see what guests your hipersockets
subchannels are attached to, and which ones are free.
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are there any tools for working with
Hi, Ann.
If you have the 'prompt' IPL option enabled, when you first bring up CP
it asks you (prompts) for the date and time. I am unaware of any
optional piece of hardware that would allow VM to automatically set it's
clock via an accurate electronic source such as the Navy Observatory.
And if there are pages of an SDF (the VTAM segment and CMS NSS are good
examples) on the disk, expect more than a crash of a single user when
you flip the switch.:-)
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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Hi, Mike.
Not only is NFS 'unsfe', it's also a very 'chatty' protocolyou might
want to keep an eye on your bandwidth usage at the beginning..
Michael Coffin wrote:
Thanks Richard and Mary Ellen, I'll give NFS a look. Unfortunately, my
client considers NFS an unsafe technology so
I classify how the hardware gets the time as unknown at least by me.
There is an orderable feature for the hardware to get the time via STP (server
time protocol - not the other two things -) but I don't have any direct
experience with.
Don't think the hardware for z/vm really reaches out to
Ann,
If you don't use the z/VM IPL prompt to change it's LPAR'as TOD clock then
z/VM's LPAR gets its TOD clock set equal to the External Time Reference (ETR)
or on z10 Server Time Protocol (STP) time at LPAR-activation time if you're
using an ETR or STP, and thereafter the LPAR's TOD drifts a
Thanks, Bruce.
It would be nice to be able to view other LPAR connections. Maybe IBM
should look into something on the HMC that could display all connections on
a Hipersocket CHPID.
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Bruce Hayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There isn't any details information like
read-only nss/dcss pages are most certainly paged out. They are not reloaded
from spool.
read-write nss/dcss pages different story they are read in fresh from spool
Finding which nss pages are on a disk is probably a smaller control block chase
than going through the vmdbk chain. Looked at
I have a report that has some simple carraige control in it SKIP to CH 1
(line 2) and CH 12 (line 44).
I want to print this report on a LPR printer via RSCS.
How do I get the printer detect the CH 12 and skip to CH 1.
Thanks
We need to put together something approaching a production network
environment for Windows® under z/VM testing.
We don't believe a 500 seat environment would generate any more network
traffic or for that matter be any more complex than the network definitions
for a z/VM Linux server colony.
Has
Hey Guys,
Well I got my SSLSERV up and started to update my PROFILE TCPIP to add a
secure port to test with, then I remembered our session manager (Macro 4
- TUBES) intercepts port 23 for telnet and uses the port for TUBES. I
found out that TUBES DOES NOT support, nor plan to support, secure
Hi, Gary.
Gary M. Dennis wrote:
We need to put together something approaching a production network
environment for Windows® under z/VM testing.
Well, I don't know how you are going to get Windows to run on z/VM, but
assuming you can..:-)
We don't believe a 500 seat environment
Thanks John. We use an external timer.
I just wondered if after they replace the cables do I have to do
anything like a POR (power on reset) for the lpar to get it's time
refreshed from the external timer.
I will check the doc you mention here. You say zVM doesn't keep in synch
but I wonder if
Hi, Tim.
Take a look at these two products.
1) Session (Arty Ecock) (http://ukcc.uky.edu/%7Etools/1998/session.vmarc)
2) YVETTE (Chip Coy) (http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/yvette.vmarc)
They're both free, and I believe will provide session management
functions similar to TUBES,
Tom -
I believe that RSCS LPR will only detect ASA control characters.
There is no ASA control character for skip to channel 12.
To get to line 44 you would have to count lines and print blank lines
after the last detail line to get to line 44.
/Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of
You're correct, Marty, there are no back pointers from the allocation
structures for a particular paging slot or volume back to the virtual p
age
or pages that reside there.
The problem with scanning the PGMBKs is, of course (in addition to there
being lots and lots of them), that PGMBKs are
Thanks agin.
The doc has what I needed. I need to ACTIVATE the zVM lpars.
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT)
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:40 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: How does z/VM
Sections of NSSes and DCSSes that have never been referenced by any user
still reside only on the original SPOOL space they were saved to. For
initial reads from SPOOL, NSS and DCSS pages are blocked in large (up t
o
half a meg, I believe) paging blocks, so if one page is touched, the whol
e
Well, that's not entirely true, actually. R/W NSS/DCSS pages are general
ly
treated exactly like R/O NSS/DCSS pages, for most normal uses. Where it
gets a little strange is when you've got, for example, a page range that
is
defined SW (Shared Writeable), but is loaded exclusively (non-shared),
Hey Ed,
I am using TUBES 4.500E . There is a TUBES setting:
TCP YES
STN3270 23
This has TUBES intercept port 23 from VM TCPIP so if you telnet to your
VM TCPIP stack port 23 you get a TUBES menu!
Tim
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL
Looks good .. Thanks Dave!
Tim
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Jones
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:14 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM TCP/IP Secure Telnet
Hi, Tim.
Take a look at these two products.
pedantic
In your VTAM TRLE, do the READ, WRITE, and DATAPATH addresses match the
addresses you have dedicated to your z/OS guest (724, 725, and 726 in you
r
case)?
Are those addresses and paths online in your z/OS image?
Is the VTAM TRLE active?
/pedantic
I don't know if a z/OS virtual
I've got a carriage control paper tape punch if you need to use it.
Better yet, you send me the tape and I'll punch it. I hate it when
someone borrows my punch and doesn't return it. :-)
Jim
Huegel, Thomas wrote:
I have a report that has some simple carraige control in it SKIP to =
CH
Alan,
Not to disagree with you but... this is from the TCPIP admin book chapter 22
for the SSLADMIN STORE command.
label
is the label to be associated with this CA certificate in the certificate
database. This label can be any unique string up to 200 characters. It cannot
begin or end with a
Hey Ed,
I am using TUBES 4.500E . There is a TUBES setting:
TCP YES
STN3270 23
This has TUBES intercept port 23 from VM TCPIP so if you
telnet to your VM TCPIP stack port 23 you get a TUBES menu!
Tim
Cool Tim, thanks for the info. I am not on TUBES 4.x, so that
is not
For Hipersockets I do not create a TRLE, only for an OSA adapter. At least
that works on my z/OS system running in an LPAR.
Options in the User direct
OPTION MAINTCCW LNKNOPAS DEVINFO DEVMAINT DIAG98 NOMDCFS RMCHINFO
OPTION STGEXEMPT SVC76VM
Yes they are online. That is also weird because
I have a report that has some simple carraige control in it SKIP to
CH 1 (line 2) and CH 12 (line 44).
I want to print this report on a LPR printer via RSCS.
How do I get the printer detect the CH 12 and skip to CH 1.
RSCS LPR exit LPRXONE does handle a skip to channel 1 opcode, converting
On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:18:52 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For Hipersockets I do not create a TRLE, only for an OSA adapter. At
least
that works on my z/OS system running in an LPAR.
You're right, no TRLE. I got carried away.
Options in the User direct
OPTION MAINTCCW LNKNOPAS
OK thanks Les..
I guess my question was poorly worded, I don't want to skip to CH 12, just to
CH 1..
I should have left the CH 12 stuff out it was confusing..
Tom
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Behalf Of Les Geer (607-429-3580)
Sent:
I notice in the type 01 accounting records that there are all zeros in
the Connect Time and the Milliseconds of CPU time buckets for the
VMBATnn ids (IBM's batch facility). Are these machines treated
differently by the accounting routines? Without writing an exit
routine, is there any way to
Well I got my SSLSERV up and started to update my PROFILE TCPIP to add
a
secure port to test with, then I remembered our session manager (Macro
4
- TUBES) intercepts port 23 for telnet and uses the port for TUBES.
They may not support it in TUBES, but the stack is doing all the work
anyway,
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05/12/2008.
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On Thursday, 05/08/2008 at 02:03 EDT, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Which IBM PUB is a definitive cookbook on this?
I would start here:
[snip]
Don't forget the z/VM Connectivity book in the z/VM library.
Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Bill Holder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with scanning the PGMBKs is, of course (in addition to there
being lots and lots of them), that PGMBKs are themselves pageable, and so
Fortunately they run a performance monitor that makes the job a bit easier.
G'day Listers,
When trying to ipl a CA HiDRO stand alone restore cart at a new data centre
(for VM) the ipl of the cart failed. The person in charge said this had
happened before when trying to ipl a Linux system install cart as well.
The other lpars are running MVS.
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