Re: link local address handling while changing hw address of interface

2013-04-09 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > There is an issue with using a MAC-based link local address on an interface > that does not have that MAC address, which is that any other interface > using that MAC that turns up is going to fail DAD. Normally this will be > another interface

Re: link local address handling while changing hw address of interface

2013-04-08 Thread Simon Perreault
Le 2013-04-08 01:13, Andrew McGregor a écrit : There is an issue with using a MAC-based link local address on an interface that does not have that MAC address, which is that any other interface using that MAC that turns up is going to fail DAD. Normally this will be another interface on the

Re: link local address handling while changing hw address of interface

2013-04-07 Thread Andrew McGregor
There is an issue with using a MAC-based link local address on an interface that does not have that MAC address, which is that any other interface using that MAC that turns up is going to fail DAD. Normally this will be another interface on the same device, but even then it can be an issue

Re: link local address handling while changing hw address of interface

2013-04-07 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > The only way to address that condition is to make MAC change and address > renewal an atomic operation. => in fact it is not required to be really atomic, only to seem to be atomic for an external observer (i.e., it is enough to shutdown the NIC during the op

Re: link local address handling while changing hw address of interface

2013-04-07 Thread Francis Dupont
y wrong. => I deeply disagree: you assume a binding between layers 2 and 3, in particular between addresses, which does *not* exist. There is no issue to use any legal link-local address on a particular Ethernet device, and this is fully independent of the MAC address. Regards f

Re: link local address handling while changing hw address of interface

2013-04-05 Thread Mark Smith
> > From: Christian Huitema >To: Brian E Carpenter ; Andrew McGregor > >Cc: "ipv6@ietf.org" >Sent: Saturday, 6 April 2013 2:35 AM >Subject: RE: link local address handling while changing hw address of interface > >&g

RE: link local address handling while changing hw address of interface

2013-04-05 Thread Christian Huitema
> At layer 2, yes, but you haven't done anything at layer 3, and NUD/ND will > pick up the new layer3:layer2 relationship. There is also a privacy angle to this. Suppose that a visitor to a café changes their MAC address in order to avoid tracking. Keeping the same IP addresses would somewhat d

Re: link local address handling while changing hw address of interface

2013-04-05 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 05/04/2013 14:53, Andrew McGregor wrote: > B) is usually correct, although this depends on the semantics of the lower > layer in question. If it is Ethernet, by changing the MAC address, you have > made a new interface and so the old address end point has gone away. At layer 2, yes, but you ha

Re: link local address handling while changing hw address of interface

2013-04-05 Thread Andrew McGregor
B) is usually correct, although this depends on the semantics of the lower layer in question. If it is Ethernet, by changing the MAC address, you have made a new interface and so the old address end point has gone away. It is usually best to drop the link and restart layer 2 at that point, as any s

Re: link local address handling while changing hw address of interface

2013-04-05 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > On 04/04/2013 18:51, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote: > > Hello! > > > > What is the proposed action if the hardware address of an interface is > > changed regarding link-local addresses while the interface is up? I see > > a few possibilities here but have no

Re: link local address handling while changing hw address of interface

2013-04-04 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 04/04/2013 18:51, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote: > Hello! > > What is the proposed action if the hardware address of an interface is > changed regarding link-local addresses while the interface is up? I see > a few possibilities here but have not yet found an answer in the rfcs: > > a) generate a

link local address handling while changing hw address of interface

2013-04-04 Thread Hannes Frederic Sowa
Hello! What is the proposed action if the hardware address of an interface is changed regarding link-local addresses while the interface is up? I see a few possibilities here but have not yet found an answer in the rfcs: a) generate a new link-local interface address in addition to the old one b)

Re: There are claims of ambiguity over what is a link-local address

2012-05-07 Thread David Farmer
On 5/7/12 12:40 CDT, Dan Luedtke wrote: Hello, On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Dave Thaler wrote: MUST NOT would seem to match the intent of the original RFCs which say: " Routers must not forward any packets with link-local source or destination addresses to other links." Got it now,

Re: There are claims of ambiguity over what is a link-local address

2012-05-07 Thread Dan Luedtke
Hello, On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Dave Thaler wrote: > MUST NOT would seem to match the intent of the original > RFCs which say: > "   Routers must not forward any packets with link-local source or >   destination addresses to other links." Got it now, thanks :) Yes, weakening the requiremen

RE: There are claims of ambiguity over what is a link-local address

2012-05-07 Thread Dave Thaler
> -Original Message- > From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Dan Luedtke > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:21 AM > To: David Conrad > Cc: Christian Huitema; 6man > Subject: Re: There are claims of ambiguity over what is a link-

Re: There are claims of ambiguity over what is a link-local address

2012-05-07 Thread Dan Luedtke
Hi, On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:07 PM, David Conrad wrote: >> * FE80::/64 is used for configuring link local addresses; >> * FE80::/10 is reserved by the IETF. >> * By default, implementations SHOULD discard packets received from addresses >> in FE80::/10 outside of FE80::/64 > I personally believe

Re: There are claims of ambiguity over what is a link-local address

2012-05-07 Thread Tina TSOU
Sent from my iPhone On May 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, "Christian Huitema" wrote: >>> Link-Local Unicast Addresses 1110 10 1/1024 >>> Site-Local Unicast Addresses 1110 11 1/1024 >> ... >> So they define the /10 as the link local *prefix*, within which any >> *addresse

Re: There are claims of ambiguity over what is a link-local address

2012-05-07 Thread David Conrad
Hi, On May 7, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Christian Huitema wrote: > Given that, I would suggest to be very specific: +1 > * FE80::/64 is used for configuring link local addresses; > * FE80::/10 is reserved by the IETF. > * By default, implementations SHOULD discard packets received from addresses > in

RE: There are claims of ambiguity over what is a link-local address

2012-05-07 Thread Christian Huitema
>> Link-Local Unicast Addresses 1110 10 1/1024 >> Site-Local Unicast Addresses 1110 11 1/1024 >... > So they define the /10 as the link local *prefix*, within which any > *addresses* have to fall into the /64. > The rest of the /10 is unused but is still defined as

RE: There are claims of ambiguity over what is a link-local address

2012-05-07 Thread Dave Thaler
all into the /64. The rest of the /10 is unused but is still defined as link-local scope. -Dave > -Original Message- > From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Alexandru Petrescu > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 12:51 AM > To: ipv6@ietf.org >

Re: There are claims of ambiguity over what is a link-local address

2012-05-07 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
That ambiguity around the prefix length /10 vs /64 of a link-local address should be clarified. If clarified, among other advantages, it would allow to write C code which, when typing "ifconfig eth0 add fe80::1" it would know to fill in the prefix length by itself, and not wonder a

Re: There are claims of ambiguity over what is a link-local address

2012-05-07 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2012-05-07 00:59, Mark Andrews wrote: > See the nanog thread starting here: > http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2012-May/048079.html > I'm sure the intention was to reserve the entire /10 prefix but it's correct that the RFC is not clear about this. Seems like an erratum is

There are claims of ambiguity over what is a link-local address

2012-05-06 Thread Mark Andrews
See the nanog thread starting here: http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2012-May/048079.html -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org --

RE: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-05-27 Thread Parav Pandit
--- On Thu, 5/27/10, Brian Zill wrote: > From: Brian Zill > Subject: RE: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local > address - any RFC? > To: "Parav Pandit" > Cc: "ipv6@ietf.org" > Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 10:24 PM > Hi Para

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-05-27 Thread james woodyatt
On May 27, 2010, at 09:54, Brian Zill wrote: > > [...] > Typically, any reasonable protocol that uses link-local addresses will learn > any peer's addresses by receiving packets from that peer on that particular > link. The protocol will then keep both the link-local addres

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-05-27 Thread Bob Hinden
use addresses > that are valid in that scope (i.e. global addresses). > > Typically, any reasonable protocol that uses link-local addresses will learn > any peer's addresses by receiving packets from that peer on that particular > link. The protocol will then keep both the li

RE: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-05-27 Thread Brian Zill
ocol that uses link-local addresses will learn any peer's addresses by receiving packets from that peer on that particular link. The protocol will then keep both the link-local address *and* the scope-id for that address for later use in contacting that peer. You should never need to resort

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-05-27 Thread Parav Pandit
esh Krishnan > Subject: Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local > address - any RFC? > To: "Parav Pandit" > Cc: "ipv6@ietf.org" > Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 8:04 PM > On 10-05-27 09:28 AM, Brian Haberman > wrote: > > You will ne

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-05-27 Thread Suresh Krishnan
On 10-05-27 09:28 AM, Brian Haberman wrote: You will need the scope_id in order to use ping6. In order to send any packet to a link-local address, you will need the scope_id first. +1. So my question to you is, how did you get the LL address in the first place? That should give you clues as

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-05-27 Thread Brian Haberman
s done only once. You will need the scope_id in order to use ping6. In order to send any packet to a link-local address, you will need the scope_id first. > > My understanding is, RFC 4443 of ICMPv6 mandates ECHO request and > response processing. so I believe it should be o.k

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-05-27 Thread Parav Pandit
response processing. so I believe it should be o.k to rely on ping6 to get the right interface_id. Regards, Parav Pandit --- On Thu, 5/27/10, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > From: Mikael Abrahamsson > Subject: Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local > address - any

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-05-27 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 27 May 2010, Parav Pandit wrote: I don't know on which vlan the destination link-local address is. Well, you pretty much know that to send packets to it. A link-local address is not just an address, you need to provide what interface you're referring to. It's of l

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-05-27 Thread Parav Pandit
Opening the thread again. In my server I have #19 vlans configured on 10Gb Ethernet card. I don't know on which vlan the destination link-local address is. 1. As a user am I supposed to do ping6 on all of them one by one? 2. How does the TCP will work? Open #19 connections to the destin

Re: RFC 4861:-Link-Local address joining all-node multicast group.

2010-04-23 Thread niviya vijayan
destination "all-node multicast address"? If it is yes, As per > RFC3810, MLD report should not use for joining into all node multicast > address.? > > >> Why the node is sending unsolicited NA message ( with source as > "link-local address" & destin

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-04-22 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
ocket() > call is unaffected since it doesn't take any address parameter. In the > connect() call, for the struct sockaddr parameter, the sin6_addr member > will contain the server's link-local address and the sin6_scope_id > member will contain the scope id of the client&#

RE: RFC 4861:-Link-Local address joining all-node multicast group.

2010-04-21 Thread JOSHI, SHRINIVAS ASHOK (SHRINIVAS ASHOK)
ed node multicast address. >> Why the node is sending unsolicited NA message ( with source as "link-local >> address" & destination as "all-node multicast address"). >> I am expecting only one unsolicited NA message( with source as "ipv6 global >&g

Re: RFC 4861:-Link-Local address joining all-node multicast group.

2010-04-21 Thread niviya vijayan
source as "link-local address" & destination as "all-node multicast address").I am expecting only one unsolicited NA message( with source as "ipv6 global address" & destination as "all-node multicast address"). I am not at all changing the link-local addr

Re: RFC 4861:-Link-Local address joining all-node multicast group.

2010-04-20 Thread Suresh Krishnan
tried this scenario , I have seen two NA messages. 1) source as ipv6 address and destination as ipv6 all node address. 2) source as link-local address and destination as ipv6 all node address. My question is, whenever there is a change in ipv6 address on a node, both these 2 NA messages will

RE: RFC 4861:-Link-Local address joining all-node multicast group.

2010-04-20 Thread JOSHI, SHRINIVAS ASHOK (SHRINIVAS ASHOK)
>> My question is, whenever there is a change in ipv6 address on a node, both >> these 2 NA messages will propogate through the network? >> or is it really required to share about the link-local address as we are not >> at all changing the ipv6 link-local address.? If li

Re: RFC 4861:-Link-Local address joining all-node multicast group.

2010-04-20 Thread niviya vijayan
address. 2) source as link-local address and destination as ipv6 all node address. My question is, whenever there is a change in ipv6 address on a node, both these 2 NA messages will propogate through the network? or is it really required to share about the link-local address as we are not at all

Re: RFC 4861:-Link-Local address joining all-node multicast group.

2010-04-16 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Alex, On 10-04-16 12:00 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Le 16/04/2010 17:11, Suresh Krishnan a écrit : 1) MLD join for the solicited node multicast address from the unspecified address (to test for the uniqueness of the tentative link-local address). 2) MLD join for the solicited node

Re: deriving MAC address from destination Link local address without Neighbor discovery

2010-04-16 Thread Parav Pandit
Please fine inline response. Parav --- On Fri, 4/16/10, Suresh Krishnan wrote: > From: Suresh Krishnan > Subject: Re: deriving MAC address from destination Link local address without > Neighbor discovery > To: "Parav Pandit" > Cc: "ipv6@ietf.org" >

Re: RFC 4861:-Link-Local address joining all-node multicast group.

2010-04-16 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Local address to the ‘All node multicast address’. Any specific reason for this? Is this a correct behaviour ?or is there any requirement for joining link local address on the all node multicast node while creating an ipv6 address on the interface? why it is required? if it is required, then this

Re: RFC 4861:-Link-Local address joining all-node multicast group.

2010-04-16 Thread Suresh Krishnan
cal address to the ‘All node multicast address’. Any specific reason for this? Is this a correct behaviour ?or is there any requirement for joining link local address on the all node multicast node while creating an ipv6 address on the interface? why it is required? if it is required, then this mess

RFC 4861:-Link-Local address joining all-node multicast group.

2010-04-16 Thread niviya vijayan
while configuring an ipv6 address. I could see IPv6 node (Ipv6 address) joining ‘All node multicast address’ and ‘Solicited multicast address’. Apart from that I am seeing an extra join request from the Link Local address to the ‘All node multicast address’. Any specific reason for this? Is this a

Re: deriving MAC address from destination Link local address without Neighbor discovery

2010-04-15 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Parav, Please see comments inline. On 10-04-15 01:55 AM, Parav Pandit wrote: Hi, As per RFC 2464, Link local address for Ethernet based interfaces are based on the EUI-64 (derived from the MAC address). I have #3 questions based on this. In this case, when one Ethernet based host(from

Re: deriving MAC address from destination Link local address without Neighbor discovery

2010-04-15 Thread Fred Baker
both the methods are correct for ETHERNET for Link-local and autoconf > addresses? > > RFC 4291 asks to refer the Link layer specific RFC for the 64-bit Interface > Id of the link-local address - which is 2464 (for Ethernet). > > So thats the confusion I have. > > Or > t

Re: deriving MAC address from destination Link local address without Neighbor discovery

2010-04-15 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Le 15/04/2010 15:17, Cameron Byrne a écrit : On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Le 15/04/2010 07:55, Parav Pandit a écrit : Hi, As per RFC 2464, Link local address for Ethernet based interfaces are based on the EUI-64 (derived from the MAC address). Right, that is

Re: deriving MAC address from destination Link local address without Neighbor discovery

2010-04-15 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > Le 15/04/2010 07:55, Parav Pandit a écrit : >> >> Hi, >> >> As per RFC 2464, Link local address for Ethernet based interfaces >> are based on the EUI-64 (derived from the MAC address). > > Right,

Re: deriving MAC address from destination Link local address without Neighbor discovery

2010-04-15 Thread Parav Pandit
Inline. Parav --- On Thu, 4/15/10, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > From: Alexandru Petrescu > Subject: Re: deriving MAC address from destination Link local address without > Neighbor discovery > To: "Parav Pandit" > Cc: "Ipv" > Date: Thursday, April 1

Re: deriving MAC address from destination Link local address without Neighbor discovery

2010-04-15 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Le 15/04/2010 07:55, Parav Pandit a écrit : Hi, As per RFC 2464, Link local address for Ethernet based interfaces are based on the EUI-64 (derived from the MAC address). Right, that is probably a very widespread way of how the link local addresses are derived from a MAC address. There are

Re: deriving MAC address from destination Link local address without Neighbor discovery

2010-04-15 Thread Parav Pandit
Or both the methods are correct for ETHERNET for Link-local and autoconf addresses? RFC 4291 asks to refer the Link layer specific RFC for the 64-bit Interface Id of the link-local address - which is 2464 (for Ethernet). So thats the confusion I have. Or the RFC 3972 doesn't apply to the

Re: deriving MAC address from destination Link local address without Neighbor discovery

2010-04-14 Thread Fred Baker
=56699 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC3041) (Status: DRAFT STANDARD) On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Parav Pandit wrote: > Hi, > > As per RFC 2464, Link local address for Ethernet based interfaces are based > on the EUI-64 (derived from the MAC address). > > I have #3 questions based on

deriving MAC address from destination Link local address without Neighbor discovery

2010-04-14 Thread Parav Pandit
Hi, As per RFC 2464, Link local address for Ethernet based interfaces are based on the EUI-64 (derived from the MAC address). I have #3 questions based on this. In this case, when one Ethernet based host(from its link-local source) tries to ping the other Ethernet based host, it knows the

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-04-14 Thread Brian E Carpenter
ct the outgoing interface to choose (when multiple > interfaces) are available? Typically when the destination is the link-local > address which may be on-link on both the interfaces (before the neighbor > discovery) is done? > > Should IPv6 stack do Neighbor discovery on all mult

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-04-14 Thread Simon Perreault
take any address parameter. In the connect() call, for the struct sockaddr parameter, the sin6_addr member will contain the server's link-local address and the sin6_scope_id member will contain the scope id of the client's interface on which the server can be reached. Based on

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-04-14 Thread Parav Pandit
, Parav Pandit --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Mohacsi Janos wrote: From: Mohacsi Janos Subject: Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC? To: "Parav Pandit" Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 3:01 PM On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Parav Pa

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-04-14 Thread Mohacsi Janos
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Parav Pandit wrote: Hi, In IPv6 stack implementation, How IPv6 stack should select the outgoing interface to choose (when multiple interfaces) are available? Typically when the destination is the link-local address which may be on-link on both the interfaces (before

Re: which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-04-14 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:00:36 -0700 (PDT), Parav Pandit wrote: > How IPv6 stack should select the outgoing interface to choose (when > multiple interfaces) are available? Typically when the destination is the > link-local address which may be on-link on both the interfaces (before the &

which interface to choose to send to destination link-local address - any RFC?

2010-04-14 Thread Parav Pandit
Hi, In IPv6 stack implementation, How IPv6 stack should select the outgoing interface to choose (when multiple interfaces) are available? Typically when the destination is the link-local address which may be on-link on both the interfaces (before the neighbor discovery) is done? Should IPv6

Re: Is Link-Local address mandatory for a host device?

2009-06-11 Thread Prabhu Hariharan
mark ; Prabhu Hariharan < > prab...@gmail.com> > Cc: ipv6@ietf.org > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:14:53 PM > Subject: RE: Is Link-Local address mandatory for a host device? > > Erik Nordmark wrote: > > >I suspect that you also can't use DHCPv6 for non-addr

Re: Is Link-Local address mandatory for a host device?

2009-06-11 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
escape from the link-locals. Regards, Behcet - Original Message From: Hemant Singh (shemant) To: Erik Nordmark ; Prabhu Hariharan Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:14:53 PM Subject: RE: Is Link-Local address mandatory for a host device? Erik Nordmark wrote: >I susp

RE: Is Link-Local address mandatory for a host device?

2009-06-10 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Erik Nordmark wrote: >I suspect that you also can't use DHCPv6 for non-addresses (finding the >DNS servers etc) since DHCPv6 might assume that some communication uses >the link-local address. But I haven't checked in the RFC. Snipped from RFC 3315, section 1.1 is: [

Re: Is Link-Local address mandatory for a host device?

2009-06-10 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: For a end-device (a host), if the interface connecting to IPv6 network is configured with IPv6 global address, then automatic configuration of link-local address is mandatory for that interface? Consider the host is being statically configured with

RE: Is Link-Local address mandatory for a host device?

2009-06-10 Thread TJ
etf.org] On Behalf Of Erik >Nordmark >Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:39 PM >To: Prabhu Hariharan >Cc: ipv6@ietf.org >Subject: Re: Is Link-Local address mandatory for a host device? > >Prabhu Hariharan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> For a end-device (a host), if the int

Re: Is Link-Local address mandatory for a host device?

2009-06-10 Thread Erik Nordmark
Prabhu Hariharan wrote: Hi, For a end-device (a host), if the interface connecting to IPv6 network is configured with IPv6 global address, then automatic configuration of link-local address is mandatory for that interface? Consider the host is being statically configured with IPv6 default

Is Link-Local address mandatory for a host device?

2009-06-10 Thread Prabhu Hariharan
Hi, For a end-device (a host), if the interface connecting to IPv6 network is configured with IPv6 global address, then automatic configuration of link-local address is mandatory for that interface? Consider the host is being statically configured with IPv6 default gateway address. Without the

Re: IPv6-Link local address

2006-11-02 Thread David Malone
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 03:54:08PM +0530, kernel learner wrote: > In IPv6 whenever a NS packet is received, > and if the target address is link local, then second 16 bits from lsb side > are fileed with interface index. and while sending NA as reply those bits in > target address are made zero. Why

IPv6-Link local address

2006-11-02 Thread kernel learner
Hi all, In IPv6 whenever a NS packet is received, and if the target address is link local, then second 16 bits from lsb side are fileed with interface index. and while sending NA as reply those bits in target address are made zero. Why is it done? Acc. to rfc, those 16bits are part of 64 bit int

Re: Link Local Address

2006-10-31 Thread Leon
Hi, Since Link Local Address is basic for interface's ipv6 capability, such as usage by ND, I also agree not to forward packets at this case. Thanks Leon - Original Message - From: "JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Hanamantapppa Yuvraj-A213

Re: Link Local Address

2006-10-31 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
>>>>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:02:19 +0800, >>>>> "Hanamantapppa Yuvraj-A21366" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Suppose for a Router Fast Ethernet interface has a following > configuration > Link Local Address which is Tentative, and the Prim

Link Local Address

2006-10-13 Thread Hanamantapppa Yuvraj-A21366
Hi All,   Suppose for a Router Fast Ethernet interface has a following configuration Link Local Address which is Tentative, and the Primary IPv6 address is Up. With this should I be able to forward the Ipv6 traffic?   Appreciate your response   Thanks Yuvraj

Re : MTU on a Link Local Address.

2006-09-14 Thread Kayumba .H Thierry
AIL PROTECTED]Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Envoyé le : Jeudi, 14 Septembre 2006, 6h11mn 12sObjet : Re: MTU on a Link Local Address. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> Hi all, as we all know Link Local addresses and communicating through them ar

Re: MTU on a Link Local Address.

2006-09-14 Thread Elwyn Davies
possible to set the MTU also for the Link Local IPv6 address. The question I have for this forum is what is the MTU value that should be set for this Link Local address? Possibilities: 1. 1280 --- the reason is that this value would guarantee a Neighbor Discovery operation since all devices must

RE: MTU on a Link Local Address.

2006-09-14 Thread sasson_shuki
on a Link Local Address. Don't forget though that tunnels are also links with link-local addresses and there may be arbitrary physical link technologies (with heterogeneous MTUs) on the paths between tunnel endpoints. All links are required to support a minimum MTU of 1280 bytes for IPv6, and

RE: MTU on a Link Local Address.

2006-09-14 Thread Templin, Fred L
> I wonder if the grouping together devices with the same MTU/MRU > capabilities into different on-link prefixes, and then having a > per-prefix MTU would overcome some of the per-neighbour MTU issues > identified at that time. Well, fe80::/10 is an on-link prefix and in some use-cases there might

RE: MTU on a Link Local Address.

2006-09-14 Thread Templin, Fred L
ssage- From: Suresh Krishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MTU on a Link Local Address. Hi Sasson, It should be 2. the MTU of th

Re: MTU on a Link Local Address.

2006-09-14 Thread Mark Smith
> To: sasson, shuki > Cc: harris, arthur; ting, dennis; viswanadha, kamakshi; ipv6@ietf.org; > nathanson, daphna > Subject: Re: MTU on a Link Local Address. > > On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:02:02 -0400 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi all, as we all know Link Local addres

Re: MTU on a Link Local Address.

2006-09-14 Thread Suresh Krishnan
address. The question I have for this forum is what is the MTU value that should be set for this Link Local address? Possibilities: 1. 1280 --- the reason is that this value would guarantee a Neighbor Discovery operation since all devices must support at least this MTU. 2. The MTU of NIC

RE: MTU on a Link Local Address.

2006-09-14 Thread sasson_shuki
Thanks! Shuki -Original Message- From: Suresh Krishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:02 AM To: sasson, shuki Cc: ipv6@ietf.org; harris, arthur; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; viswanadha, kamakshi; nathanson, daphna Subject: Re: MTU on a Link Local Address. Hi

RE: MTU on a Link Local Address.

2006-09-14 Thread sasson_shuki
-Original Message- From: Mark Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:27 AM To: sasson, shuki Cc: harris, arthur; ting, dennis; viswanadha, kamakshi; ipv6@ietf.org; nathanson, daphna Subject: Re: MTU on a Link Local Address. On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:02:02 -0400 [EMAIL

Re: MTU on a Link Local Address.

2006-09-14 Thread Mark Smith
MTU for and IPv6 address. So it is very much > possible to set the MTU also for the Link Local IPv6 address. > The question I have for this forum is what is the MTU value that should be > set for this Link Local address? > > Possibilities: > > 1.1280 --- the reason is

MTU on a Link Local Address.

2006-09-14 Thread sasson_shuki
Link Local IPv6 address. The question I have for this forum is what is the MTU value that should be set for this Link Local address? Possibilities: 1. 1280 --- the reason is that this value would guarantee a Neighbor Discovery operation since all devices must support at least this MTU. 2

Re: Seeking clarifying information on RFC 4291 and link-local address format ...

2006-07-12 Thread Brian Haberman
Hi John, The specification reserves FE80::/10 for any link-local address format. The only currently used instantiation is the FE80::/64 prefix. In other words, a new RFC could define alternative formats for the internal 54 bits underneath the FE80::/10 prefix. Regards, Brian On Jul

Re: Seeking clarifying information on RFC 4291 and link-local address format ...

2006-07-11 Thread Bob Hinden
John, On Jul 11, 2006, at 12:11 PM, ext John Spence wrote: 2.5.6. Link-Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses Link-Local addresses are for use on a single link. Link-Local addresses have the following format: | 10 | | bits| 54 bits | 64 bits |

Re: Seeking clarifying information on RFC 4291 and link-local address format ...

2006-07-11 Thread Pars MUTAF
::", but then I would > think we'd write that as "fe80::/64". > > > > So, do those middle 54 bits have to be zero, or can they be anything? > I ping6ed my Linux link-local address with those 54 bits equaling 0: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping6 -I eth1 fe80:0:0::2

Seeking clarifying information on RFC 4291 and link-local address format ...

2006-07-11 Thread John Spence
Reading RFC 4291, I am not 100% clear on the format for link-local addresses.  In some places the document specifies “fe80::/10”, which I read as “the first ten bits must be 1110 10, the remaining 54 bits can be anything, up to the /64 bit boundary .  Later in the document I see this:

Recall: Link Local address

2006-03-16 Thread Ken Yi \(xyi\)
Title: Recall: Link Local address Ken Yi (xyi) would like to recall the message, "Link Local address". IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailma

Recall: Please ignore: Link Local address

2006-03-16 Thread Ken Yi \(xyi\)
Title: Recall: Please ignore: Link Local address Ken Yi (xyi) would like to recall the message, "Please ignore:  Link Local address". IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Reque

Recall: Link Local address

2006-03-16 Thread Ken Yi \(xyi\)
Title: Recall: Link Local address Ken Yi (xyi) would like to recall the message, "Link Local address". IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailma

Please ignore: Link Local address

2006-03-16 Thread Ken Yi \(xyi\)
> -Original Message- > From: Ken Yi (xyi) > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:30 PM > To: ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: Link Local address > > Hi, > > Per RFC-3513, link-Local addresses have the following format: > >| 10 | >| bits|

Link Local address

2006-03-16 Thread Ken Yi \(xyi\)
| +--+-++ Does it mean that the mid 54-bit must be 0 for a legitimate link-local address? Thanks, Ken > -Original Message- > From: Eric Levy- Abegnoli (elevyabe) > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:58 PM > To: Jon R

Re: link-local address on loopback interface

2005-06-17 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:12:03 +0300, > Markku Savela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I have to keep using the "node-local scope", because implementation > architecture puts it into good use internally. > There is some difference in link local and node local: > - link local addresses can ac

Re: link-local address on loopback interface

2005-06-17 Thread Markku Savela
> From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > We should first note that the notion of "node local" scope was > deprecated in RFC3513. But I suspect there is almost no difference in > practice between (now deprecated) "node-local" and "link-local of

Re: link-local address on loopback interface

2005-06-17 Thread Vlad Yasevich
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 08:16 +0300, Markku Savela wrote: > > From: Bob Hinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Possibly, however from Section 2.5.3 "The Loopback Address" it says: > > > > The unicast address 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 is called the loopback address. > > It may be used by a node to send an I

Re: link-local address on loopback interface

2005-06-17 Thread Markku Savela
> From: Bob Hinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Possibly, however from Section 2.5.3 "The Loopback Address" it says: > > The unicast address 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 is called the loopback address. > It may be used by a node to send an IPv6 packet to itself. It must > not be assigned to any physica

Re: link-local address on loopback interface

2005-06-17 Thread Bob Hinden
Jinmei, Ah, yes, and I should have been more careful before sending the message...RFC3513(addr-arch-v3) already has this change, which is not in RFC2372 and is probably a result of the previous discussion. Thanks for the clarification, and sorry about the noise. No problem. I was glad to fin

Re: link-local address on loopback interface

2005-06-16 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:16:50 +0300, > Markku Savela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Possibly, however from Section 2.5.3 "The Loopback Address" it says: >> >> The unicast address 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 is called the loopback address. >> It may be used by a node to send an IPv6 packet to itself.

Re: link-local address on loopback interface

2005-06-16 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:56:27 -0700, > Bob Hinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> All interfaces are required to have at least one link-local unicast >> address (see Section 2.8 for additional required addresses). >> >> (this should be generally interpreted that even the loopback interface

Re: link-local address on loopback interface

2005-06-16 Thread Bob Hinden
architecture document. In a previous discussion back in 2002, we seem to have agreed the loopback interface does not have to have a link-local address (with the "fe80::/10" prefix): http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/ipng/msg02583.html ...despite the requirement in Section 2.1 of draft

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