r changed. You
> will learn a lot this way. ****
>
>
>
> Michele
>
>
>
> *From:* smwc64 tds.net [mailto:smw...@tds.net]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:43 AM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census templa
There is an option to have the page re-indexed if there are just too
>many errors J
>
>
>
>Michele
>
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>
>
>
>From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 1:23 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]
On 2012/05/02 18:11, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> So sorry, Mike. I think we have been talking only about the US 1940 census
> indexing project. I am not familiar with FreeBMD.
The subject is rapidly becoming very off-topic. A point that that I was trying
to accelerate the resolution of.
--
Regards,
So sorry, Mike. I think we have been talking only about the US 1940 census
indexing project. I am not familiar with FreeBMD.
--Paula
From:Mike Fry
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, May 2, 2012 11:01:25 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census
On 5/2/2012 8:58 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
> Each image is indexed twice, (Key A and Key B). Then the image goes
> to the arbitrator.
Can the arbitrator send the whole batch back to the indexers because of
to many errors ?
Tim Rosenlof
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On 02/05/2012 17:17, Michele Lewis wrote:
> I am not familiar with UK resources so I had to Google the page. It
> seems that this is an index, not a true transcription though I can't
> see the original image where they got the info. I did a search and
> got a list of names, places and volume and
way.
>
> ** **
>
> You should check EVERY batch and see what the arbitrator changed. You
> will learn a lot this way.
>
> ** **
>
> Michele
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* smwc64 tds.net [mailto:smw...@tds.net]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:43
ge it doesn’t take me to
the image. If I were going to cite this in Legacy, I would be formatting it
like a database.
Michele
-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 12:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]
On 2012/05/02 17:46, Michele Lewis wrote:
> Ah yes! Great point! Indexing is not the same as transcribing!
And FreeBMD? What's that, then?
--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg
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I do check all my <100% batches and rarely 'please review' on a spelling issue;
just rule violations. ;)
--Paula
From:Michele Lewis
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, May 2, 2012 9:59:39 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 census templ
-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:55 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
On 2012/05/02 15:42, smwc64 tds.net wrote:
> I am an arbitrator and you will be happy to know I bl
On 2012/05/02 15:42, smwc64 tds.net wrote:
> I am an arbitrator and you will be happy to know I blank out the fields J
> Keep
> hitting the review button!
No, no, no, no! The very first Law of Transcribing is: Write What You See -
warts 'n all. It's up to the researcher to sort any anomalies ou
n get back to entering things into Legacy!
>
> --Paula
>
>
> --
> *From:* Michele Lewis
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Wed, May 2, 2012 7:23:41 AM
>
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
>
> I am an arbitrator and you will b
hele Lewis
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, May 2, 2012 7:23:41 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
I am an arbitrator and you will be happy to know I blank out the fields J Keep
hitting the review button!
Michele
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rom:Jackie King
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, May 1, 2012 7:31:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
Hey! Thanks!
And thanks to everyone who is helping with the indexing etc. I find this
is one census that I am finding people in what few indexes are available
m
Jackie, This was a fun exercise! I went out to familysearch and tried to find
this page with just your source citation! ;)
First, I couldn't see where Colorado was truly searchable. I did see that they
have "souped up" their browsing. But I have been using the stevemorse.org site
to browse Ill
Hey! Thanks!
And thanks to everyone who is helping with the indexing etc. I find
this is one census that I am finding people in what few indexes are
available much more easily than in past indexes and I have some very
strange names. The indexes also make it much easier to fill out the
Legacy temp
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From:"sarge1...@cox.net"
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc:Michele Lewis
Sent: Tue, May 1, 2012 8:35:48 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
After re-reading the instructions and following a mreply from FamilySearch, I
continue to enter the data as wri
box on all of those.
Okay, I'll stop--! ;)
--Paula
From:Michele Lewis
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, May 1, 2012 6:15:58 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
I had one like that yesterday. I was arbitrating a batch where
:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, May 1, 2012 5:54:44 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
I see your point Jenny...would it make sense to record the obviously correct
entry, followed by the incorrect entry in parentheses?
On May 1, 2012, at 5:19, Jenny M Benson wro
prior censuses, it will be
interesting to see how they use it in a search. Oh! I could go check Colorado,
couldn't I? ;)
--Paula
From:Robert Runion
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, May 1, 2012 5:48:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census tem
Thanks for that example, Jackie!
And I might just have been the one to index that page in Colorado--! ;)
--Paula
From:Jackie King
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 6:41:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
batch, with someone to arbitrate or decide
when the answers don't match.
--Paula
From:mbstx
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 5:47:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
To me, it's not so much the quali
I have to enter the sheet # and A/B every time. Hmm...
--Paula
From:RICHARD SCHULTHIES
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 4:00:05 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
When they send you a batch to index the
@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
I see your point Jenny...would it make sense to record the obviously correct
entry, followed by the incorrect entry in parentheses?
On May 1, 2012, at 5:19, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 30/04/2012 23:46, mbstx wrote:
>> To
ive by the rules. I think that the arbitrators should
> be able to correct obvious errors like this.
>
> Michele
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Runion [mailto:sarge1...@cox.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 6:48 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.co
ginal Message-
From: Robert Runion [mailto:sarge1...@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 6:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
In some of my indexing, I have encountered errors by the Census taker where the
county of residence in
On 01/05/2012 11:53, Thomas L. Shaw wrote:
> I see your point Jenny...would it make sense to record the obviously
> correct entry, followed by the incorrect entry in parentheses?
I don't usually because if the error is so obvious it doesn't seem
necessary! However, where there's a likelihood tha
I see your point Jenny...would it make sense to record the obviously correct
entry, followed by the incorrect entry in parentheses?
On May 1, 2012, at 5:19, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 30/04/2012 23:46, mbstx wrote:
>> To me, it's not so much the quality of the image as the quality of the
>> ind
In some of my indexing, I have encountered errors by the Census taker where the
county of residence in 1935 was entered int the State column. I debated about
how to enter the data but finally erred on the side of the instructions and
entered the data as recorded. An example is 'Avery' was ente
On 30/04/2012 23:46, mbstx wrote:
> To me, it's not so much the quality of the image as the quality of the
> indexing. There are a multitude of errors in the previous census
> databases on Ancestry.com (and some in FamilySearch as well, but not as
> many I believe). FamilySearch is trying to use
Paula,
The website location will be part of the Master Source citation and the detail
section will have the date accessed field.
Russ
From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 4:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
There isn
Paula -
I do enter the website in the proper places on the template - but for
any other "title" the only place I enter it is in the source index title.
For instance, I have started doing some of my 1940 Colorado families
since FamilySearch has now gotten those indexed and searchable. My
title wi
tches they're working one, particularly re surnames, and other things that might be misinterpreted. Marianne-Original Message-
From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Apr 30, 2012 3:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
I think it might be
: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
Yes, I understand that, especially since I began indexing the 1940 census
pages/sheets and of course they call them "batches"!
There appear to
[mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 4:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
Purchasing this book is on my "to-do" list... rapidly moving to the top, I
might add. ;)
Thanks
ad in the one database, then I would consult
the other.
But which to choose??
--Paula
From:Michele Lewis
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 11:16:25 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
That is the way I do it to
Still, I can have only one repository per master source.
--Paula
From:R G Strong-genes
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 11:01:46 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
That’s why I also create and use the
nd-written page numbers. Once
they started having the sheet numbers, I stopped trying to figure out the page
number.
--Paula
From:Jenny M Benson
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, April 29, 2012 6:28:53 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template qu
21 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
As do I - and I have them enumerated in the source index such as Census.
1930. Illinois, Macoupin County (Ancestry). It makes it very easy for me
to pull out the right one when I need it - and the (Ancestry) doesn't s
Purchasing this book is on my "to-do" list... rapidly moving to the top, I might
add. ;)
Thanks,
--Paula
From:R G Strong-genes
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 10:51:20 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template ques
From:R G Strong-genes
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 10:42:10 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
Not True if you go to the library and want to find that particular person and
you know that information you will need the roll # and then you can
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From:R G Strong-genes
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 10:38:10 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
Paula,
The reason for the sheet numbers where that they where I believe two sided
sheets numbered in sequence as they used them and the p
There isn't a field for the website location at the detail level when using the
SW template for the 1940 census.
--Paula
From:Randy Clark
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, April 29, 2012 5:47:54 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census tem
it to a 1840.
Also, be VERY careful to hit the save as new :) :)
Michele
From: R G Strong-genes [mailto:rgstrongge...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 12:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
I too create the master source at the
PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
My problem with Legacy is that we enter that website/database at the master
source level, not at the detail level. So, since I "lump" at the county level,
do I need to set up a seco
choose apply to New
source. If you try doing this to a source that has no one attached to it the
program will change that source without asking for a new one.
Russ
From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template
That’s why I also create and use the repository that I used!
-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
This is a good question. Legacy’s templates have â
amen!!
From: Michele Lewis
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
The page number is important in conjunction with the COUNTY not the enumeration
district. There is only one page 122 in Lamar County
PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
Thanks, Michele. I figured it might work something like that. However, that
makes the page number even less useful when combined with the roll of
microfilm, doesn't it? Because there are multiple
@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
True. I think it is my experience indexing that made me realize that the roll
# and page # have nothing at all to do with finding someone in the census
images. They don't now (unindexed) and they won't later (indexed). Al
for the series and
roll numbers is because NARA microfilmed them.
Russ
From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 5:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
Thank you everyone for your answers. I do see a number stamped on this page
to get to this page.
--Paula
From: Jackie King
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, April 29, 2012 4:09:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
Paula -
Just a couple of comments
You are asking why a government agency created redundancy?
Rich in LA CA
From: Paula Ryburn
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
Thank you everyone for your answers. I
Another thing about pages, sometimes you will have a written page number and a
stamped one. If you have both, go with the stamped. If there is only a
handwritten one then you have to go with that one. You will see this mostly on
the older censuses. The stamped one is the sequential numbers f
On 29/04/2012 23:17, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> For those of you who "lump" AT ALL, what do you do if you find one page
> for a county (the level at which I lump) on ancestry and another on
> familysearch and another the NARA?
>
> In the particular case of Federal Census records, is it really important
lobal.net]
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:44 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
>
> My problem with Legacy is that we enter that website/database at the
> master source level, not at the detail level. So, since I
t;
> --
> *From:* Michele Lewis
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Sun, April 29, 2012 5:34:58 PM
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
>
> This is a good question. Legacy’s templates have “blanks” for all of the
&
@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
My problem with Legacy is that we enter that website/database at the master
source level, not at the detail level. So, since I "lump" at the county level,
do I need to set up a second "Census - Illinois Cook 1940
I will probably end up having to use the over-ride to make the
correct citation. *sigh*
--Paula
From:Michele Lewis
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, April 29, 2012 5:34:58 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
This is a good qu
a difference so you need to direct people back to the exact image
that you examined.
Michele
From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:18 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
I spoke too soon
I spoke too soon! ;)
When looking for things in the currently unindexed 1940 census, I have mostly
used the stevemorse.org website. Once you get to the ED, this site gives you
your choice of "viewers"... NARA, FamilySearch, Ancestry, plus 3 more.
I honestly don't remember which one I u
If I can’t read the page number on the census I go 2 pages back and 2 pages
forward to be sure what the page number is.
Jean
From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 5:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
Jackie, I think you
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From:Michele Lewis
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, April 29, 2012 4:29:48 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
Each enumeration district has its own sheet numbers.
ED 37-1
Sheet 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, 3A, 3B etc.
ED 37-2
Sheet 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, 3A, 3B etc
The pa
the last ED.
Does that make sense?
For Mississippi,
37 is Lamar County 38 is Lauderdale County.
Michele
From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 5:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
I tend to include them because once in a great while I am at a location
where all I have access to is the microfilm copy. But I also add since
that seems to be the accepted standardization of the source material and
like many, someday I may actually want to do something with everything I
have gath
page.
--Paula
From:Jackie King
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, April 29, 2012 4:09:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
Paula -
Just a couple of comments on a couple of your questions. Online images
sometimes do not remain st
Thanks, Russ. I appreciate the information a lot. But...
--Paula
Also note that when ever you are typing in one of the fields of the template all
you have to do is hover the mouse over the label and the help note will appear
for that field.
Hope this helps,
Russ Strong
>Further, there is
. It must truly be something to
do with the whole microfilm approach.
--Paula
From:Michele Lewis
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, April 29, 2012 3:34:57 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
When you are indexing the 194
Paula -
Just a couple of comments on a couple of your questions. Online images
sometimes do not remain static. It may be image 300 today - and later if
the company that is hosting it changes something - it may become image
400. By citing the basics, almost anyone can find what they are looking
for
A ha! It says roll 941 *frame* 405 ... not *page*... hmm...
--Paula
From:Michele Lewis
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, April 29, 2012 2:10:00 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
Yes, there is a roll number. The easiest
Thank you everyone for your answers. I do see a number stamped on this page,
but it is smeared and illegible (and *4* digits on sheet 2A???). I will look
for the roll #. I have seen the Ancestry source information (lists both itself
and the NARA). Hmm...
The more I thought about this topic, th
the label and the help note will
appear for that field.
Hope this helps,
Russ Strong
From: Kathy Meyer
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
I don't think that's off topic at all. We need to k
Yes, there is a roll number. The easiest way to find it is here.
http://stevemorse.org/census/unified.html Type in the state and Enumeration
District. Then click on “More Details” and that will give you the roll number.
The pages “should” have a stamped page number on them. It “should” be t
This was discussed in a previous thread "1940 Census NARA Roll #".-Original Message-
From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Apr 29, 2012 1:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions
My question might be slightly off-topic, but here goes...I found my mom
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