Re: [Ab]use of penderel

2003-06-04 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 11:44:56PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: I personally don't see operating a piece of software under Debian stable as a significant risk, especially one that is not listening on a port, on a machine whose data everyone *ahem* has back-ups of :-) I agree. Although google

Re: [Ab]use of penderel

2003-06-03 Thread Mark Fowler
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Is one allowed to run very small low traffic mailing lists from penderel? Come to that are there any FAQs guidelines on use of your trusty penderel account? I think I've suggested that all things penderel like should be evalutated on a case by case

Re: [Ab]use of penderel

2003-06-03 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 04:14:23PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: Also, bear in mind that I've made public commitments in the past to moving penderel over to siesta when it's ready. Be prepared for mailman to go bye bye at some point, even if it technically possible to run them at the same time

Re: [Ab]use of penderel

2003-06-03 Thread Mark Fowler
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Paul Makepeace wrote: I'm making the distinction between using another piece of software (which you're advocating with sound reasons) and actually *un*installing an existing, known working, mature piece of software others might wish to use. I was mearly implying that

Re: [Ab]use of penderel

2003-06-03 Thread Paul Makepeace
are simply not personally supporting software and actually uninstalling it. Did you perceive what I said as jumping down your throat? It wasn't intended as that; it was intended to clarify a position on list in public that might have consequences for users of penderel down the line. Sorry that wasn't so

Re: [Ab]use of penderel

2003-06-03 Thread the hatter
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Mark Fowler wrote: In future I shall not bother warning people, less someone jumps down my throat. Excellent, it'll be an even more enchanting surprise for everyone when all the other shells are pulled, and we all start using the perl shell. Vaguely more on-topic though, I

Re: [Ab]use of penderel

2003-06-03 Thread Paul Makepeace
of Just FYI so everyone can sleep easily: thanks to a whole bunch of people last year penderel, python, mailman, etc are under Debian's standard package management. Patches are thus picked up automatically during debian's usual upgrade/patch-issuing cycle. I have set up the Debian security announcements

Re: [Ab]use of penderel

2003-06-03 Thread Simon Wistow
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:53:08PM +, the hatter said: That'd be handy. With mailman gone, I'm sure no one will need python any more, anyway. We can get also get rid of sed/awk/grep/etc. Except all of those which gnu configure and make require to actually make perl, obviously. Ah

Re: [Ab]use of penderel

2003-06-03 Thread Mark Fowler
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Paul Makepeace wrote: snip misunderstanding clearning up And lo, it was proved once again that email sucks, and misunderstandings happen when people like me write badly worded emails (twice, in this case.) As I have stated many times before I is most defiantly crap. Mark.

Re: Penderel (Was IQfC)

2002-11-27 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 10:24:03AM +, Lusercop wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 10:20:17AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: It is probably just me, but I hate to see a computer not used to its full potential and penderel is sitting unloaded for much of the day. You could do what I do

Penderel (Was IQfC)

2002-11-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In the grand scheme of things, penderel isn't actually that important. It's nice to have, and I'm grateful to those who look after it, but I won't lose any sleep over failures. So it runs our web site and the mailing list. Ok, splitting off

Re: Penderel (Was IQfC)

2002-11-18 Thread Lusercop
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 10:20:17AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: It is probably just me, but I hate to see a computer not used to its full potential and penderel is sitting unloaded for much of the day. You could do what I do with the unused CPU time on colon, and donate it to one Nicholas Clark

Re: Penderel (Was IQfC)

2002-11-18 Thread S. Joel Bernstein
At 18/11/2002 10:20 [], Greg McCarroll wrote: I think Penderel is one of london.pm's most underused assets. Its got a reasonable processor (AMD-K6/350), 1/2gig of memory and 25gig of free disk, which by my standards makes it a useful little machine. We probably can't use too much bandwidth

Re: Penderel (Was IQfC)

2002-11-18 Thread Mark Fowler
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Greg McCarroll wrote: It is probably just me, but I hate to see a computer not used to its full potential and penderel is sitting unloaded for much of the day. Personally, I think that this is the wrong way to look at this. I prefer instead to think that we have the extra

Re: Penderel (Was IQfC)

2002-11-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 10:20:17AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: I think Penderel is one of london.pm's most underused assets. Its got a reasonable processor (AMD-K6/350), 1/2gig of memory and 25gig of One of the more recent possible, and certainly very real older reasons it is/was unused

Re: Penderel (Was IQfC)

2002-11-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 10:20:17AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: I think Penderel is one of london.pm's most underused assets. Its got a reasonable processor (AMD-K6/350), 1/2gig of memory and 25gig of One of the more recent possible

Re: Penderel (Was IQfC)

2002-11-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 01:51:44PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 10:20:17AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: I think Penderel is one of london.pm's most underused assets. Its got a reasonable processor (AMD-K6/350), 1/2gig

Re: Penderel (Was IQfC)

2002-11-18 Thread alex
Penderel is stable now, since putting in bits donated kindly by (oops, can't remember, sorry, kind person). There's a pending hardware upgrade too, which I paid for in advance of receiving suggested 20 quid donation for some extra accounts (5 quid for the unwaged/otherwise poor). I'll drop

Re: Penderel (Was IQfC)

2002-11-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
and I'd like it to use subversion on Penderel as the repository as opposed to yet another doomed SF project. Thoughts? G. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Building Net::SSL on penderel

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Peterson
I can't build Net::SSL on penderel :-(. Just wondered if this problem was unique to me or not. I get: .Can't load 'blib/arch/auto/Crypt/SSLeay/SSLeay.so' for module Crypt::SSLeay: blib/arch/auto/Crypt/SSLeay/SSLeay.so: undefined symbol: OPENSSL_free at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i586-linux

Re: Building Net::SSL on penderel

2002-06-18 Thread Paul Mison
On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 03:46:31PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: I can't build Net::SSL on penderel :-(. Just wondered if this problem was unique to me or not. I get: So I'm (pessimistically) assuming something wants a particular version/brand/flavour/political attitude of library

Re: Penderel ssh

2002-06-07 Thread Paul Makepeace
practice. (OTOH, a published alternative admin address would be useful for when penderel is b0rken... sending email to root at brokenbox is not going to do a lot of good :) You can probably guess at least three of them :-) There is also a mailing list sysops but that's more for internal use

Re: Penderel ssh

2002-06-07 Thread Newton, Philip
Paul Makepeace wrote: On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:44:24AM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote: (OTOH, a published alternative admin address would be useful for when penderel is b0rken... sending email to root at brokenbox is not going to do a lot of good :) You can probably guess at least three

Penderel ssh

2002-06-06 Thread Jonathan Peterson
Lo, Penderel told me the host key had changed when I ssh'd to it just now, which I put down to various repairs etc. on penderel. But then penderel reckonded I didn't know my own password, which is a slanderous lie. Has someone been fiddling with ssh? Or did my account die? Or did we get

Re: penderel update

2002-06-03 Thread Newton, Philip
alex wrote: perl 5.8.0 rc1 is on penderel (london.pm.org) now in /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.0 A propos penderel -- the motd says that there's a local CPAN copy; however, the directory has weird permissions something like 640 (IIRC), which is not terribly useful since people who aren't uid/gid cpan

Re: penderel update

2002-06-03 Thread alex
On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 09:28, Newton, Philip wrote: A propos penderel -- the motd says that there's a local CPAN copy; however, the directory has weird permissions something like 640 (IIRC), which is not terribly useful since people who aren't uid/gid cpan can't read anything under

penderel update

2002-06-02 Thread alex
perl 5.8.0 rc1 is on penderel (london.pm.org) now in /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.0 london.pm.org will be down sometime on tuesday -- our leader paul mison is going to install debian on it for us. the redhat install was getting long in the tooth, and wasn't looked after properly. by the way, i

penderel is back

2002-05-20 Thread alex
and this is a test message. no new bits in yet, if anyone with good experience with hardware and CFT would like to drop by and put them in, they're here and waiting... otherwise i'll happily do it when i get some time, but that might not be for a day or two. cheers people alex

Re: penderel

2002-05-20 Thread alex
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 11:39, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have bought a mobo + cpu (athlon 1800+) + fan for 140 quid from the tcr computer fair. i have a spare psu that i'll put in too, just in case penderel's psu is what's been mucking up all the hardware.

penderel update

2002-05-19 Thread alex
hello - i installed a new (latest stable) apache/mod_perl, listening on http://london.pm.org:81 . please check your stuff web works with it before we switch over - as an experiment, perl 5.7.3 is now installed in /usr/local/perl/5.7.3/ (you can run it via /usr/local/bin/perl5.7.3) is that a

Re: penderel

2002-05-19 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have bought a mobo + cpu (athlon 1800+) + fan for 140 quid from the tcr computer fair. i have a spare psu that i'll put in too, just in case penderel's psu is what's been mucking up all the hardware. Then get a decent, new 350W mother. -- David Hodgkinson,

Re: penderel

2002-05-18 Thread alex
. i have a spare psu that i'll put in too, just in case penderel's psu is what's been mucking up all the hardware. i'm hoping i'll be able to recoup most of that 140 quid in return for new shell account holders. so if you want a shell on penderel, blech and i agreed on a contribution of 20 pounds

Re: penderel

2002-05-17 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 02:47:24PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 09:52:16PM +, the hatter wrote: I'll happily donate one of my favourite 3C905s which I seem to be accumulating. And I'd assume you want AGP graphics, rather than PCI ? It's a server. It needs not

Re: penderel

2002-05-17 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 02:47:24PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: It's a server. It needs not graphics, other than the bare minimum that broken PCs require before they'll boot. A shitty old Tseng ISA card would be sufficient. Do not put an

Re: penderel

2002-05-15 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 09:52:16PM +, the hatter wrote: I'll happily donate one of my favourite 3C905s which I seem to be accumulating. And I'd assume you want AGP graphics, rather than PCI ? It's a server. It needs not graphics, other than the bare minimum that broken PCs require before

Tseng ISA cards (was Re: penderel)

2002-05-15 Thread Newton, Philip
David Cantrell wrote: A shitty old Tseng ISA card would be sufficient. Oooh. Fond memories. My first computer had an ET4000 which I ran at 800x600. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of

Re: Tseng ISA cards (was Re: penderel)

2002-05-15 Thread Andy Wardley
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 04:29:46PM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote: My first computer had an ET4000 which I ran at 800x600. Lucky bastard. My first computer did 80x25 :-) A

Re: Tseng ISA cards (was Re: penderel)

2002-05-15 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Andy Wardley wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 04:29:46PM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote: My first computer had an ET4000 which I ran at 800x600. Lucky bastard. My first computer did 80x25 :-) My first computer still does 40x25 (unless you counted the quarter-block

Re: Tseng ISA cards (was Re: penderel)

2002-05-15 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Newton, Philip wrote: David Cantrell wrote: A shitty old Tseng ISA card would be sufficient. Oooh. Fond memories. My first computer had an ET4000 which I ran at 800x600. My first computer had LEDs /J\

Re: Tseng ISA cards (was Re: penderel)

2002-05-15 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 07:47:38PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Wed, 15 May 2002, Newton, Philip wrote: My first computer had an ET4000 which I ran at 800x600. My first computer had LEDs This 'ere puter has five LEDs. FIVE. Bloody luxury! -- David Cantrell|Degenerate|

Re: Tseng ISA cards (was Re: penderel)

2002-05-15 Thread Chris Devers
On Wed, 15 May 2002, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 07:47:38PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Wed, 15 May 2002, Newton, Philip wrote: My first computer had an ET4000 which I ran at 800x600. My first computer had LEDs This 'ere puter has five LEDs. FIVE. Bloody

Re: Tseng ISA cards (was Re: penderel)

2002-05-15 Thread Newton, Philip
Andy Wardley wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 04:29:46PM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote: My first computer had an ET4000 which I ran at 800x600. Lucky bastard. My first computer did 80x25 :-) Well, OK. I should have qualified that with my first peecee. My first computer did 40x25 natively in

penderel

2002-05-14 Thread alex
thanks very much to tantrix for getting penderel fired up again to try to stop it from crashing again i'm going to replace a lot of the hardware. on saturday i'll buy: . a cheap athlon mx chip . a motherboard . a graphics card . a network card . a case (probably with psu, although i have one

Re: penderel

2002-05-14 Thread the hatter
On 14 May 2002, alex wrote: you could help by bringing a graphics card or network card to the technical meeting, if you have one spare. I'll happily donate one of my favourite 3C905s which I seem to be accumulating. And I'd assume you want AGP graphics, rather than PCI ? I suspect I can

Re: penderel

2002-04-11 Thread Rob Partington
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any OS, however, that doesn't run well in 128Mb is a broken OS in my opinion, and that 128Mb should include X. Yes, Mac OS X, I'm criticising you twice in the same sentence there. Although, to be fair, it does sound like

Re: penderel

2002-04-10 Thread Steve Mynott
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not to mention the fact that Solaris runs like crap on all pre-Ultrasparc hardware. I think Solaris 8 doesn't even run on pre-Ultra hardware (or is supported on?) If you desperately wanted a Sun operating system, you could go for SunOS 4.1.4, but

Re: penderel

2002-04-10 Thread the hatter
On 10 Apr 2002, Clive Hills wrote: On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 18:10, Steve Mynott wrote: I think Solaris 8 doesn't even run on pre-Ultra hardware (or is supported on?) In fact Solaris 8 runs quite happily (FSVO happy) on sun4m and sun4d hardware. In fact the beta refresh of Solaris 9 will

Re: penderel

2002-04-10 Thread Clive Hills
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 18:20, the hatter wrote: I knew sol8 did, but if 9 seems to as well, then I'm both slightly surprised, and rather happy. Any idea what the minimum ram necessary is ? or how much have you got, and does it seem to have any big speed problems in places that you'd attribute

Re: penderel

2002-04-10 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 07:16:07PM +0100, Clive Hills wrote: I've only got 64Mb of ram on the SS5/170 that I'm running 9 on and it seems no better and no worse than Solaris 8 on that platform. As always I'm sure that it would be happier with at least 128Mb. AIUI, 2.6 ran nicely in 64Mb, 7

Re: penderel

2002-04-10 Thread Clive Hills
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 20:36, David Cantrell wrote: AIUI, 2.6 ran nicely in 64Mb, 7 was bearable, but 8 unacceptably bad. Those are for running as a workstation with X and stuff, so on a server, 64Mb may be acceptable. Well I'm not using it as a workstation, it'd be unbearably slow with any

Re: penderel

2002-04-04 Thread anathema
the hatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bring it along tonight (or give us a URL for it) and we can do some statistically significant research on the matter. Research? -- http://www.the-anathema.org Free Tibet! With purchase of second Tibet of equal or greater value. Limit two Tibets per customer. -

Re: penderel

2002-04-04 Thread David H. Adler
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 12:44:05PM -0500, anathema wrote: the hatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bring it along tonight (or give us a URL for it) and we can do some statistically significant research on the matter. Research? I think that may be a euphemism... :-) -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Newton, Philip
cure (at least I hope not). I was thinking of maybe installing a new perl of my own anyway (it's 5.7.2 or something like that at the moment), or perhaps I'll just use the system perl (which will be, what -- 5.6.1? 5.8.0? something else?) If the above assumptions are true, I propose we strip Penderel

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Greg McCarroll wrote: Ok, so it may be hearsay but i believe Penderel has had more problems, so I have a proposal, but lets start with the assumptions i am making ... [snip assumptions] If the above assumptions are true, I propose we strip Penderel of its scsi drive

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:10:24PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: admin it) and put said 9gb drive into it. Then we will take Dave's SS10 and install sparc linux [1] on it and attach the 9gb drive, so the internal SS10 drive (4Gb) will do / and the (9Gb) will do /home. We are currently at

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:37:24PM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote: Greg McCarroll wrote: Assumption 4 : No one is doing intel specific work on it. but it shouldn't be anything a recompile wouldn't cure (at least I hope not). I was thinking of maybe installing a new perl of my own anyway (it's

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Mike Jarvis
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:10:24PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Ok, so it may be hearsay but i believe Penderel has had more problems, so I have a proposal, but lets start with the assumptions i am making Thoughts? Will the new box be named Yorke? -- mike It's tricky to rock a rhyme

RE: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread David . Neal
: penderel Ok, so it may be hearsay but i believe Penderel has had more problems, so I have a proposal, but lets start with the assumptions i am making ... Assumption 1 : Penderel is a sick puppy, it has something wrong with the mobo or memory or whatever. Assumption 2 : We

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Richard Clamp
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:37:24PM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote: not). I was thinking of maybe installing a new perl of my own anyway (it's 5.7.2 or something like that at the moment), or perhaps I'll just use the system perl (which will be, what -- 5.6.1? 5.8.0? something else?) I'd suggest

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Newton, Philip
Mike Jarvis wrote: Will the new box be named Yorke? That would tend to reduce confusion, wouldn't it? Or we'd have to talk about old and new penderel... and from what I gather on the list, PO has rather fallen out of favour as a meeting place now anyway, hasn't it? Cheers, Philip -- Philip

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Greg McCarroll wrote: If the above assumptions are true, I propose we strip Penderel of its scsi drive (9gb) and flog Penderel on ebay to some lucky punter. We can then buy a scsi housing (if we have enough cash left over we could also buy an ups, if not lets buy drinks

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 04:41:15AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: Paul (who definitely would like to see a more maintainable OS running there *psst* debian *psst* :-) Which reminds me of a question... I have a Redhat box at work (not my choice of distribution). What's the Redhat equivalent of

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Simon Wilcox wrote: Could you not mount the HD internally ? Research indicates the SS10 can take two drives internally. I admit my reasearch is probably incomplete. Assuming it's the same in that respect as an SS20, then yes, 2 internal bays, though you need the

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Simon Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could you not mount the HD internally ? Research indicates the SS10 can take two drives internally. I admit my reasearch is probably incomplete. Make sure that there's plenty of ventilation in that case, they can get rather warm. Hot disks == good

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 04:41:15AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: Quite honestly, I think you could be underestimating the hassle involved with a reinstall and copy-over onto a different architecture. I've gone from Irix to Linux, from Deadrat to Deviant, with mostly no problems. Just takes a

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:03:12PM +, the hatter wrote: or you can run solaris with its good breeding on sparc, which loves the hardware. Thankyou for volunteering to admin it. -- Grand Inquisitor Reverend David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Educating this luser would

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 04:41:15AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: Paul (who definitely would like to see a more maintainable OS running there *psst* debian *psst* :-) Which reminds me of a question... I have a Redhat box at work (not my choice of

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Mark Fowler
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Richard Clamp wrote: I'd suggest that the system perl (/usr/bin/perl) be left to the mercy of the distribution, and that multiple /usr/local/perl5.* installs are probably going to scratch the widest selection of itches[1]. Now this would be a top idea. I don't test my

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:03:12PM +, the hatter wrote: or you can run solaris with its good breeding on sparc, which loves the hardware. Thankyou for volunteering to admin it. That's no problem at all[0]. Just get the box to me some time,

Penderel - Thread herding, Was: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
to penderel - multiple perl versions, or some such [naming] the person who installs the box can choose the new name, its their priveledge [offers of scsi bits and bobs] thank you all, but we probably dont need them yet - we dont use that much FS so far [conversion] i have absolute confidence

Re: Penderel - Thread herding, Was: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Greg McCarroll wrote: [internal mounting] [offers of scsi bits and bobs] [ventilation] We could sort all of those bits, if we pull out the existing smaller disk and replace it with a single, larger one, using the cradle from the existing one, and thus no ventilation

Re: Penderel - Thread herding, Was: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
has all the joys of auto update so we wont get haxxored, etc. etc. [ups + money] Coincidentally, I might even be able to do a good deal on a recycled UPS (subject to small donations to the cake fund) lets leave this issue until we have sold penderel Greg -- Greg McCarroll

Re: Penderel - Thread herding, Was: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 02:56:02PM +, the hatter wrote: I'm actually vaguely surprised that we can't between us come up with a fairly nippy and nice peecee. You're new here aincha :-) lets not do this debate at all, linux admin experience is in the most supply in this group, so lets

Re: Penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Newton, Philip
Neil Ford wrote: If you do decide to replace the motherboard and processor, I have a spare case with processor, mobo, memory and CD that could be used as a staging post whilst new components are fitted to pendrel. Intel or AMD? Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions

Re: Penderel

2002-04-03 Thread Neil Ford
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 05:36:13PM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote: Neil Ford wrote: If you do decide to replace the motherboard and processor, I have a spare case with processor, mobo, memory and CD that could be used as a staging post whilst new components are fitted to pendrel. Intel or

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread anathema
the hatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I'm sure most of the current admin-folk would like some experience on a real OS. Mee-ow! :) -- http://www.the-anathema.org Free Tibet! With purchase of second Tibet of equal or greater value. Limit two Tibets per customer. - ModernHumorist.com

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, anathema wrote: the hatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I'm sure most of the current admin-folk would like some experience on a real OS. Mee-ow! :) Less miaw, more get off my bridge. But really, any clueful linux admin is capable of fixing most problems on

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread anathema
the hatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip sun stuff My only real experience with Sun boxen has been in porn. Did you know hexdrivers could do that? -- http://www.the-anathema.org Free Tibet! With purchase of second Tibet of equal or greater value. Limit two Tibets per customer. -

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, anathema wrote: the hatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip sun stuff My only real experience with Sun boxen has been in porn. Sounds like a sound recruitment strategy, little will attract people to new technologies than good, wholesome, life-giving porn. the hatter

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:48:50PM +, the hatter wrote: On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, anathema wrote: the hatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip sun stuff My only real experience with Sun boxen has been in porn. Sounds like a sound recruitment strategy, little will attract people to new

Re: penderel

2002-04-03 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 09:10:28PM -0500, anathema wrote: David H. Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only real experience with Sun boxen has been in porn. Sounds like a sound recruitment strategy, little will attract people to new technologies than good, wholesome, life-giving porn.

Re: penderel uptime

2002-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
For those that are interested in the state of penderel's health, now you can check online! http://london.pm.org/uptime.txt -- on a five minute cron. http://london.pm.org/cgi-bin/uptime.pl -- runs the job and goes to /uptime.txt http://london.pm.org/uptime.pl.txt -- source (comments?) Of

Re: penderel uptime

2002-03-28 Thread Rob Partington
to penderel, but if someone sets up access, I can graph the uptime too. -- rob partington % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://lynx.browser.org/

penderel uptime

2002-03-27 Thread Paul Makepeace
Reports of penderel's death just recently are greatly exaggerated: - Forwarded message from root root - From: root root Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:46:26 + 10:46am up 4 days, 15:46, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 - End forwarded message - FYI, Paul

# fsck penderel

2002-03-22 Thread Paul Makepeace
I'm at state51 and am trying to diagnose/fix penderel so if london.pm.org is unavailable, you now know why. Paul

Re: # fsck penderel

2002-03-22 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 04:09:47AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: I'm at state51 and am trying to diagnose/fix penderel so if london.pm.org is unavailable, you now know why. Phew, what a day. I think I've fixed it, and at the least it has a modern kernel, rather than the stock RH 2.4.2 running

Penderel

2002-01-24 Thread David Cantrell
So penderel is back after dieing yet again. I suggest that we replace it with a machine which is actually engineered to be reliable, not something which is designed to run Windows for half an hour between BSODs. Bearing in mind that we really don't push the machine anywhere near its limits, I

Re: Penderel

2002-01-24 Thread nemesis
David Cantrell wrote: So penderel is back after dieing yet again. I suggest that we replace it with a machine which is actually engineered to be reliable... I would suggest this beast of a machine: http://www-ccs.cs.umass.edu/%7Eshri/iPic.html -- *claw claw* *fang* *shred* *rip* *ad

Re: Penderel

2002-01-24 Thread Paul Mison
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 02:43:40PM +, David Cantrell wrote: So penderel is back after dieing yet again. I suggest that we replace it with a machine which is actually engineered to be reliable, not something which is designed to run Windows for half an hour between BSODs. Bearing in mind

httpd on penderel

2001-11-25 Thread Dave Cross
It seems that somoeone tried to restart the httpd at 4:02am, but it failed. Until someone with root access can get in and investigate, the web site will be down. This is a bit of a bugger as I need to approve the candidate's manifesto postings to the announce list. Does anyone know more about

Re: httpd on penderel

2001-11-25 Thread Jon Nangle
Greg == Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [root@penderel gem]# cat /var/log/messages # DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON HERE Nov 25 04:02:01 penderel syslogd 1.4-0: restart. Nov 25 04:02:01 penderel syslogd 1.4-0: restart. Nov 25 04:02:01 penderel syslogd 1.4-0: restart. Nov 25 04:02

Penderel HTTP logs

2001-09-21 Thread Robin Houston
I propose changing the format of the access_log from common to combined, so that the User-agent and Referer are also logged. Does anybody object? .robin. -- select replace(a, CHR(88), replace(a,,'')) from ( select 'select replace(a, CHR(88), replace(a,,)) from (