Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface

2000-03-07 Thread Ralph Smeets
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that were the case, then you would be able to encode MP3 streams that sound as good as ATRAC 4 (which they do not) in real time on your desktop (which you cannot at this time). As I mentioned previously, a Pentium II running at 400MHz is capable of turning

MD: Prices On Websites and Legal Factors Implied

2000-03-07 Thread Keith Wilson
If a price on a website is incorrect, how legally binding is it? I was on a website today, and saw a price for a MD7xx battery for 0.00 and a postage cost of 1 ukpound. On the final checkout screen I saw this: Listed below are the items you have selected this session. If you are happy with

RE: MD: Prices On Websites and Legal Factors Implied

2000-03-07 Thread Simon Barnes
Keith Wilson wrote: If a price on a website is incorrect, how legally binding is it? In the UK, a price label in a shop window is termed "an offer to treat" (cheat?), and there is no legal requirement to actually sell at that price. I imagine on a web site you have even less chance of

Re: MD: DJ minidiscs

2000-03-07 Thread horst
At 07:24 7/03/00 +1100, you wrote: There seem to be a number of DJ minidisc players available. The most promising looking are the Sony ones. Does anyone have any of the units that are on offer, not just the Sony ones? I'm headed to Tokyo this week and was thinking I might check them out.

Re: MD: DJ minidiscs

2000-03-07 Thread horst
that last by me message was supposed to be private always catches me! would someone switch of this really annoying auto reply to list thing it really serves no purpose other than to increase traffic if people really want to post to the list then they should make a concious decision to do so.

Re: MD: DJ minidiscs

2000-03-07 Thread Mattias Bergsten
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, horst wrote: This is the only list I'm on which has this bug. It's not a bug, it'a a feature. :) And you can't be on very many lists then - Reply-To set to the list is standard on at least 80% of the lists I subscribe to. /fnord

Re: MD: Slightly-OT: Listening to mono recording and headaches....

2000-03-07 Thread jds
Speaking as an avid mono MD listener, I'm rather suprised that you're getting a headache 1. so quickly, and 2. at all... I spend about 2-3 hours a day listening to MD in mono, though it is spoken word not music, that may or not make the difference. What are you (or your gf) listening to that's

Re: MD: DJ minidiscs

2000-03-07 Thread Ralph Smeets
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that last by me message was supposed to be private always catches me! would someone switch of this really annoying auto reply to list thing it really serves no purpose other than to increase traffic if people really want to post to the list then they should make

Re: MD: Prices On Websites and Legal Factors Implied

2000-03-07 Thread J. Coon
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I think you need to email them and find out

Re: MD: Slightly-OT: Listening to mono recording and headaches....

2000-03-07 Thread J. Coon
Peter Wood wrote: Now, when my girl friend listens to my Stereo minidiscs it takes her about 40 minutes before she gets a headache, where as if it's mono it takes her about 10 minutes. For me, in stereo (unless I have it at full blast) I don't get headache, but in mono I do after about an

Re: MD: DJ minidiscs

2000-03-07 Thread Ralph Smeets
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:32 7/03/00 +0100, you wrote: On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, horst wrote: This is the only list I'm on which has this bug. It's not a bug, it'a a feature. :) And you can't be on very many lists then - Reply-To set to the list is standard on at least 80% of

Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface

2000-03-07 Thread Francisco Jose Montilla
On 6 Mar 2000, Stainless Steel Rat wrote: Hi, Don't want to stop an interesting thread, but... [...] | Yeh but you don't want to emulate an ATRAC chip, you wana encode data to | ATRAC standard natively on a PC using a PC processor software taking | advantage of chip

RE: MD: Prices On Websites and Legal Factors Implied

2000-03-07 Thread Alan Dowds
Hi, In the small print somewhere on the site, there is probably the letters eoe, meaning errors and omissions excepted. The shop will probably claim this excuses it from sticking to an 'obvious' mistake like free batteries. Maybe you would win a case, if you went to court with lawyer,

Re: MD: Prices On Websites and Legal Factors Implied

2000-03-07 Thread Tim Arnold
Keith Wilson wrote: If a price on a website is incorrect, how legally binding is it? Simon Barnes said: In the UK, a price label in a shop window is termed "an offer to treat" (cheat?), and there is no legal requirement to actually sell at that price. I imagine on a web site you

Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface

2000-03-07 Thread Ralph Smeets
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6 Mar 2000, Stainless Steel Rat wrote: Hi, Don't want to stop an interesting thread, but... [...] | Yeh but you don't want to emulate an ATRAC chip, you wana encode data to | ATRAC standard natively on a PC using a PC processor

Re: MD: Slightly-OT: Listening to mono recording and headaches....

2000-03-07 Thread ExquisiteDeadGuy
In a message dated 3/7/00 1:10:52 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /|\/|\ For me, in stereo (unless I have it at full blast) I don't get headache, but in mono I do after about an hour and a half. /|\/|\ I can't explain it, but I can say it happens to me as well. There is

Re: MD: Slightly-OT: Listening to mono recording and headaches....

2000-03-07 Thread Peter Wood
Heya all, After reading some of the explenations some of them kinda make sense, esp with moving your head and the music no appearing to move. For the first time this moring I was listening to a mono recording and I actually felt physically sick, I was on a bus at the time on my way to college,

RE: MD: Prices On Websites and Legal Factors Implied

2000-03-07 Thread Simon Gardner
If a price on a website is incorrect, how legally binding is it? I was on a website today, and saw a price for a MD7xx battery for 0.00 and a postage cost of 1 ukpound. In the UK, legally can I hold them to this? That depends - in a shop situation, the marked price is an "invitation to

Re: MD: Prices On Websites and Legal Factors Implied

2000-03-07 Thread PrinceGaz
Hi, About whether prices on websites (or elsewhere) are legally binding in Britain, I had this experience in Dixons a few years ago. I wander in to browse with a particular interest in memory modules for the Psion3a organiser to see just how much more they cost there than by mail order. To my

Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface

2000-03-07 Thread PrinceGaz
Hi, Two points on this rather lengthy thread-- AMD have just announced the release of a 1GHz Athlon CPU, and Intel are expected to announce a P3 at 1GHz very soon. If Rat thinks these monsters can't handle a well-written implementation of even R-Type Atrac what do you think is needed?

Re: MD: Slightly-OT: Listening to mono recording and headaches....

2000-03-07 Thread PrinceGaz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /|\/|\ For me, in stereo (unless I have it at full blast) I don't get headache, but in mono I do after about an hour and a half. /|\/|\ I can't explain it, but I can say it happens to me as well. There is fatigue when I listen to

MD: Portable MD-recorder with Digital Output????

2000-03-07 Thread Gilbert Hangartner
Hi! Does anyone know of a portable Minidisk recorder featuring a digital output??? This once existed, but there must still be currently sold models having this, no? I looked up at lot of manufacturers, but couldn't find. Greetings Gilbert

Re: MD: Apex DVD/CDR/CDRW/MP3 Player

2000-03-07 Thread Tony Keogh
Are you sure it bypasses SCMS? I can't find any reference to SCMS at the links you gave. Mind you, it does a lot of other cool things. - Original Message - From: Craig Goligowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 5:04 AM Subject: RE: MD: Apex

Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface

2000-03-07 Thread RJ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
06 Mar 2000 21:35:42 -0500 Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote: | Yes, and that requires many fast fourier transformations (FFTs) per second, | which as I said before are slow on general purpose processors. ATRAC 4 in | real time is just not going to happen on the desktop for a while

Re: MD: DJ minidiscs

2000-03-07 Thread Dan Frakes
horst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...that last by me message was supposed to be private always catches me! would someone switch of this really annoying auto reply to list thing it really serves no purpose other than to increase traffic if people really want to post to the list then they should

Re: MD: Portable MD-recorder with Digital Output????

2000-03-07 Thread jds
The only recorder to have this was Sonys first one, the MZ-1. While the md community has asked about it, and asked for it it seems to be falling of deaf ears. The closest you can find, would be the Sony MZ-R5ST which is a portable with a docking station. On the Docking station are additional

Re: MD: Portable MD-recorder with Digital Output????

2000-03-07 Thread Gilbert Hangartner
Thanks for answer, Jeffrey! The only recorder to have this was Sonys first one, the MZ-1. According to http://www.minidisc.org/portable_table.html also the following models had it: * Sharp MD-M25 / Denon DMP-R30 / Kenwood DMC-E7R * Sharp MD-M11 * JVC XM-D1 * Aiwa AM-F1 * Aiwa AMD-100

Re: MD: Portable MD-recorder with Digital Output????

2000-03-07 Thread jds
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Gilbert Hangartner wrote: [snip] Right, but buying a docking station when you actually want to edit the thing on a computer is a bit expensive ... Anyway, am I paranoid if I do not want to do the D/A-A/D conversion when capturing minidisk audio data into a

Re: MD: Portable MD-recorder with Digital Output????

2000-03-07 Thread Ian Scott
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Gilbert Hangartner wrote: Anyway, am I paranoid if I do not want to do the D/A-A/D conversion when capturing minidisk audio data into a computer? Does this really not matter when working with radio quality interview and nature sounds I'm new in audio, but having

Re: MD: DJ minidiscs

2000-03-07 Thread Alexander Dietrich
horst wrote: making a concious decision if what you have to say is truly going to be of interest to most people on the list is damn fine practice I'm against changing it, this feature makes sense. If you don't check your headers before clicking the Send button, you can't be very conscious

Re: MD: soundcard with optical out

2000-03-07 Thread goobster
I stand corrected - it is not a laser. But the optical networks are, right? Just a bit confused, that's all, after talking to Nortel people. m. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

Re: MD: Listening to mono recording and headaches....

2000-03-07 Thread David W. Tamkin
Peter, Jeffrey and Gaz -- and Jim and Zach -- have pretty much said it all. Are you listening through headphones that block out all exterior sound? As Gaz said, that would give an unnatural feeling of motion sickness when you move your head and the relative position from the perceived source

MD: length limit on coax digital connection?

2000-03-07 Thread David W. Tamkin
Reportedly, optical connections are not so good over great lengths. I'm thinking of doing something that would require connecting two devices that are about 20m apart, and moving them closer to one another is not an availa- ble option. An optical cable could get kinked or bent along the path

Re: MD: soundcard with optical out

2000-03-07 Thread Andrew Hobgood
I stand corrected - it is not a laser. But the optical networks are, right? Just a bit confused, that's all, after talking to Nortel people. Yes. Optical networks are usually either visible-red or infrared lasers on specially formed fibers (multimode, graded-index, etc. to minimize loss far

Re: MD: length limit on coax digital connection?

2000-03-07 Thread Francisco Jose Montilla
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, David W. Tamkin wrote: Hi, Reportedly, optical connections are not so good over great lengths. I'm thinking of doing something that would require connecting two devices that are about 20m apart, and moving them closer to one another is not an availa- ble

MD: MD on Videoclips

2000-03-07 Thread Magic
Hi, Just wanted to mention that I saw an MZ-R50, actually it's remote control, being used in a Videoclip on the European MTV. The band was something like bombfunk mc's. It featured a kid that was playing around listening to music with his md and suddenly starts freezing people with his remote!

Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface

2000-03-07 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
* "Magic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 07 Mar 2000 | A fair comparison would be to encode at the same bitrate as ATRAC. 128kbps | is substantially less than ATRAC resulting in a heavier computatoinal | requirement as more optimisations need to be made. I would guestimate that the average desktop

Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface

2000-03-07 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
* "PrinceGaz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 07 Mar 2000 | AMD have just announced the release of a 1GHz Athlon CPU, and | Intel are expected to announce a P3 at 1GHz very soon. If Rat thinks | these monsters can't handle a well-written implementation of even | R-Type Atrac what do you think is

MD: List operation (was: DJ minidiscs)

2000-03-07 Thread Simon Gardner
This is the only list I'm on which has this bug. It's not a bug, it'a a feature. :) And you can't be on very many lists then - Reply-To set to the list is standard on at least 80% of the lists I subscribe to. 80%, so what it's still a crime making a concious decision if what you

Re: MD: DJ minidiscs

2000-03-07 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Mattias Bergsten wrote: And you can't be on very many lists then - Reply-To set to the list is standard on at least 80% of the lists I subscribe to. You can't be on too many lists then or you'd be inundated by irrelevant emails. The problem is that many mail clients

Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface

2000-03-07 Thread Magic
From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MD-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 2:35 AM Subject: Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface * Stories [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 06 Mar 2000 | Do you mean Compressing or Decompressing? snippage [...] | Yeh

Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface

2000-03-07 Thread Magic
From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MD-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 2:33 AM Subject: Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface * Eric Woudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 06 Mar 2000 | On what do you base this statement? My understanding of

MD: Listening to mono recording and headaches....

2000-03-07 Thread Jeff Medin
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:54:16 -0600 (CST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David W. Tamkin) Subject: Re: MD: Listening to mono recording and headaches Most modern music, with the exception of Binaural Recordings and the like are "mixed" as though they were going to be listened to through speaker

RE: MD: Apex DVD/CDR/CDRW/MP3 Player

2000-03-07 Thread Craig Goligowski
Just to clarify I did not say anything about "NO SCMS!" it was JV (Jim VeNard [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]) Nit picky but just want to be clear. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 7:26 PM To:

Re: MD: length limit on coax digital connection?

2000-03-07 Thread J. Coon
It shouldn't be a problem. Get the TV lead in stuff, and maybe look for a better quality.. compare losses if you can and get the one that has the least loss. "David W. Tamkin" wrote: Reportedly, optical connections are not so good over great lengths. I'm thinking of doing something that

Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface

2000-03-07 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
* "Magic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 07 Mar 2000 | Strange that - the Xing MP3 encoder managed to encode the whole of Elgar | Cello Concert (around 40 minutes of audio) in just under 5 minutes at | 160kbps. I'm using a P3 450MHz - 64Mb RAM. The Xing encoder is known to be only slightly better

MD: MZR55, MZE3, 702 Stuff Available For Sale

2000-03-07 Thread Rodney Peterson
Hi My MZR55 finally bit the dust so I repeatedly smashed it against the concrete until I was quite certain the evil thing that lived in the optical block was dead. But, just like in "Jumanji" may God have mercy on the poor soul that finds it. I also smashed the power supply, depriving the beast

Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface

2000-03-07 Thread Yip, Chee Soon SHQ
You're missing another point: I guess that if you send data at 2X/3X/4X to the MD, it will have to spin faster while recording; that implies greater power consumptions, and higher accuracy, so modifications to the MD hardware must be done anyway, and a standalone device won't be very

MD: SB-Live Digi?

2000-03-07 Thread James Caran
Greetings once again, I am living at a new place, using a new computer, and unfortunately I am without a CD player with digital out. Translation: I can't make MD's! The worst part is, I have tons of CD's, plus my roomates 1000 to make mixes, but all I could do is analog. :( A

Re: MD: SB-Live Digi?

2000-03-07 Thread Edmund Wong
A possible stroke of light though, I seem to recall somwhere back a post about using the SB Live to get a digital output. Was that true? Guess what sound card I now have Please? Someone? You need an optical output header. The most popular one among the MD community is the

Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface

2000-03-07 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
* Ralph Smeets [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 07 Mar 2000 | 1) The Alpha is about 4 times faster at the same clock-speed than a Pentium | class |CPU Depends on the Pentium. The ~533MHz Alpha EV67 is effectively about twice as fast as a 500MHz Pentium III Xeon (I got to play with one of