I didn't see anyone mention this on the list yet:
http://minidisc.org/sony_endsearch_reply.html
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Thanks for that - I have been wondering (and asking) if there was any
response - nice to see something, although it's not a lot...
GB
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From: Dan Frakes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, 11 August 2000 4:07
Subject: MD: End-Search petition
Any feedback at all from Sony?
Even just an acknowledgment that they received it would be a start
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Jim Gray wrote:
But more importantly: does anyone at Sony even KNOW how much people hate
it, or are we all making a lot of noise in the wilderness?
I suspect they listen to Gaz and the rest of us are just a "blowin in
the wind", so to speak. If they had any sense, or actually used their
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:40:35 +0100 (BST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been researching which portable recorder to buy for ages now. I plan
to use it for sampling ambient natural sound (pretension alert?!). I need
a unit which has both manual and automatic gain recording, which can
From: Graham Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2000 8:17
Subject: Re: MD: end search petition
Yes, how about the ability to be able to adjust manual record levels without having
to pause recording first?
IMHO, this Sony mis-feature is almost as daft
Sean Buckingham wrote:
I've been researching which portable recorder to buy for ages now. I plan
to use it for sampling ambient natural sound (pretension alert?!). I need
a unit which has both manual and automatic gain recording, which can
also be level-adjusted whilst recording. This rules
From: Graham Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2000 8:17
Subject: Re: MD: end search petition
Yes, how about the ability to be able to adjust manual record levels without having
to pause recording first?
IMHO, this Sony mis-feature is almost as daft
I must have missed the first mention of an End Search petition to Sony,
but please sign me up. I would strongly recommend that it leave out all
other issues, and stick to End Search only, as the others will dilute
the message. End Search needs to stand out alone as the greatest
abomination of
Luke Rayner wrote:
it) but the cover letter also mentioned that 'pushing
RECORD should place the unit into REC-PAUSE mode'(to unify it with
home decks
admittedly) but this was not mentioned as part of the petition
I never noticed this, and it DOES seem to exceed the remit of
At 11:46 31/05/2000 -0400, you wrote:
Eric Woudenberg writes:
This did occur to me, but Sharp portables have always started in REC
PAUSE mode, and I don't hear any carping about that feature from Sharp
users (but now's your chance!).
I should be more explicit: would Sharp owners who have
On Wed, 31 May 2000, Eric Woudenberg wrote:
I should be more explicit: would Sharp owners who have lost recordings
due to the Sharp's REC-PAUSE startup please speak up? I'm not looking
to justify my position, I really want to know if the Sharp's mode of
operation presents problems.
I have
On Wed, 31 May 2000, Jonathan Irwin wrote:
Any other suggestions (serious ones)?
yeah, follow Sharps lead and have a menu item for timed trackmarks as
well as syncro start recording in analogue mode. I love my R50, and
since Sony did create MD, I don't want to change brands, but I hate
regarding the cover letter,
the petition was to do with getting rid of end search(which i personally
dont mind too much because i'm used to it but yeah, they should get rid of
it) but the cover letter also mentioned that 'pushing RECORD should place
the unit into REC-PAUSE mode'(to unify it
We wouldn't be arguing about end search if Gaz would stop trying to
defend something so stupid, useless, and ergonomically idiotic, not to
mention destructive. I don't understand why he does this, unless he
just likes calling people stupid and arguing with them.
But more importantly: does
Gaz is OK - he has his own point of view, it's just different from most
other peoples, although there are others on the list who also favour an end
search button (not me..:-) )
Sony do tune in to this list - I know this for a fact but I don't know just
how much influence they have on the
I have a question for Windoze gurus. Can I turn off file locking on
a file? On occasion, I'd love to start playing the files I record
before the recording is finished but the file is locked until the
recording is finished.
As far as I know this cannot be done ... it's all down to the
Marc wrote:
on 5/13/00 2:54 PM, Neon John at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use my 90 as much for time shifting radio talk shows
as I do listening to music. I need the ability to quickly nuke
commercial breaks. With the 90 in my shirt pocket, I can simply
finger the key through the
On Sun, 14 May 2000 14:01:41 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Hi all,
I keep on hearing people complain about End Search as if it's some =
major problem,
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When you put a disk in and accidently erase
"Magic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I keep on hearing people complain about End Search as if it's some
major problem, but I can't see what all the fuss is about. If you
have important material you don't want to lose on a disc and you
plan on making a critical recording shouldn't you be using a
For commercial thing :
it's easy, just look when you watch tv, you will see a little white block in
the top right or top left of your screen, this is a signal that show it will
have a commercial in 15 or 30 seconds... This signal is used for some VCR...
When they have this signal, they start
Personally, for me it was a big problem... I delete unconsciously some
tracks on my precious MD at start...
So, I decided to never buy again a SONY MD unit... I prefer my MS-722 Sharp
and my JVC 70... I'm bored to always pay for a brand name...
And, more when they do less useful than other
On Fri, 12 May 2000 12:02:52 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh yeah, I've done that. But being the type that doesn't try to
pass the buck, I blamed it on my carelessness rather than the
hardware.
In saying that, then you go on with:-
A much bigger beef with the MZ-R90 in this area is
on 5/13/00 9:56 AM, Eric Woudenberg at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Richard Huggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But...are you all saying
that if your recording portable is in the STOPPED position, it STILL will
overwrite material if RECORD is pressed?
[...]
Educate me!
What we need is
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I thought R-90 had a hold switch. And I
Marc wrote:
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I thought R-90 had a hold
on 5/13/00 2:54 PM, Neon John at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use my 90 as much for time shifting radio talk shows
as I do listening to music. I need the ability to quickly nuke
commercial breaks. With the 90 in my shirt pocket, I can simply
finger the key through the pocket. Not possible
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"J. Coon" wrote:
The average off the street taper, just wants to push a button and
record and not mess with the levels. That is one thing that makes the
Sonys atractive, except they messed up the concept with that darned End
Search button that will really
A question on the everlasting "End Search" dispute:
Scenario: I'm listening to a MD with a Sharp (or other than Sony brand)
portable. I press 'stop' and the unit auto-shuts-off. After an hour or so I
resume listening.
Question: does the md start from where I stopped listening before (1) or
On Fri, 12 May 2000 12:03:21 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A question on the everlasting "End Search" dispute:
Scenario: I'm listening to a MD with a Sharp (or other than Sony brand)
portable. I press 'stop' and the unit auto-shuts-off. After an hour or so
I
resume listening.
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A question on the everlasting "End Search" dispute:
Scenario: I'm listening to a MD with a Sharp (or other than Sony brand)
portable. I press 'stop' and the unit auto-shuts-off. After an hour or so I
resume listening.
Question: does the md start from where I
Stainless Steel Rat wrote:
Only Sony portable recorders have this misfeature. Recorders other than
Sony portables (and this includes Sony home decks) assume that you want to
append new recordings instead of overwriting existing recordings, unless
you tell the recorder otherwise.
In
* Neon John [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 12 May 2000
| Oh yeah, I've done that. But being the type that doesn't try to
| pass the buck, I blamed it on my carelessness rather than the
| hardware.
When hardware *encourages* mistakes, I blame the person or persons who
designed the hardware, Sony in
Neon John wrote:
Oh yeah, I've done that. But being the type that doesn't try to
pass the buck, I blamed it on my carelessness rather than the
hardware.
A much bigger beef with the MZ-R90 in this area is how easily the
"record" button is operated. I've bumped it into record mode a
"J. Coon" wrote:
A much bigger beef with the MZ-R90 in this area is how easily the
"record" button is operated. I've bumped it into record mode a
couple of times now while carrying the unit in my pants pocket.
And if they didn't have the stupid END SEARCH button, you wouldn't loose
Neon John wrote:
Ok, my curiosity is up. I've seen a couple of criticisms now of the
"end search" button. What's the beef? I find it quite handy when
I'm conducting multiple recording sessions on the same disk. Am I
missing something?
Maybe not, but you will if you don't remember to
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Sent: Friday, 12 May 2000 16:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MD: End Search
Neon John wrote:
Ok, my curiosity is up. I've seen a couple of criticisms now of the
"end search" button. What's the beef? I find it quite handy
"J. Coon" wrote:
The average off the street taper, just wants to push a button and
record and not mess with the levels. That is one thing that makes the
Sonys atractive, except they messed up the concept with that darned End
Search button that will really give them a headache. WIth the
* Neon John [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 11 May 2000
| Ok, my curiosity is up. I've seen a couple of criticisms now of the "end
| search" button. What's the beef? I find it quite handy when I'm
| conducting multiple recording sessions on the same disk. Am I missing
| something?
Whenever you
Hi All,
I'm new to this MD game, and thinking of getting my first md, the sony
mz-r90, either that or the Sharp MT-831. Does anyone have any thoughts on
which they think is better, and why?
Also, what the hell is 'End Search'?
Cheers,
Nick.
Welcome to the MD world Nick.
Your question about 'end search' is just about to start world war three on
MD-L.
Lots of comments are about to be posted - I'll start the ball rolling - end
search is a totally redundant function that Sony (still) use on their
portable recorders to find the end of
"Wall, Nicholas " [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, what the hell is 'End Search'?
Uh-oh...
You don't know what you've done, Nicholas ;-)
Seriously, though, whenever this topic comes up there is a huge debate
over it. I'll withhold my opinion and try to explain it fairly.
End search is an old
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of Jim Gray
Sent: Thursday, 9 September 1999 8:17
To: md
Subject: MD: end search
I'm trying not to get caught up in this ES debate again, but I'm
beginning
From: Tony Antoniou
I'm sick to death of seeing these debates because
it's always the same inane, monotonous garbage!
It's clearly on topic.
If you don't want to read about it, *you* deal with it.
Rick.
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same inane, monotonous garbage!
Adios,
LarZ
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Sent: Thursday, 9 September 1999 8:17
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Subject: MD: end search
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From: Tony Antoniou
I'm sick to death of seeing these debates because
it's always the same inane, monotonous garbage!
It's clearly on topic.
If you don't want to read about it, *you* deal with it.
Rick.
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From: Tony Antoniou
You don't seem to understand that these threads
go on for a very long time
are not productive by any means and is repetitious.
Not at all correct. I've seen many many threads like this over the years.
What I've observed is that they all eventually die out and that
pupu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think if someone owns and primarily uses a Sony portable with the
End Search button and can't remember to press it before recording
something new, it's not Sony's fault of poor design. I think I
recorded over something once when I first got it, but learned my
One quick retouching on something that's previously been said about end
search and then two new comments on it:
An R3 owner wrote,
| I'm not so forgetful to append recordings to a disc without using it ...
Neither was I when the only MD unit I owned was an R3. Get used to a machine
without
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