Re: [MBZ] Installing directional snow tires "backwards"

Mitch wrote: I'm sitting here staring at the stack of chevron treaded Pirellis that the UPS man brought me yesterday, and thinking "would I get better braking if I put the non-drive wheels on the wrong side of the car"? (this is on my FWD Saturn) Or just mount them "wrong" side out. The

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

I read the manual on my 450SL (D-jet) and it said that a drop to half bar at idle was standard (when new). AS long as pressure returns to 3 bar when you drive, all is well. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei

Re: [MBZ] GP Light in Dash

I seem to recall that the light remaining on (in the 603/602/606) was that there was a dead GP or two happening. The E300D went to the shop to get that dealt with, as well as the BioD damage to seals and hoses clay > On Dec 21, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

I vote to keep it. Never know when it may come in handy. I expect he will return with great founts of Diesel Wisdom. clay > On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > While sorting out a subscription issue for Randy yesterday, I happened to >

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

Fuse change is a panacea that is invoked at any mention of electrically possible issues. Also to be accomplished prior to discussion of your recent acquisition of fresh Benz and any issues it has. This way you can head off the ritualistic incantation of “CHANGE YOUR FUSES” by averring that

Re: [MBZ] Installing directional snow tires "backwards"

On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 14:06:34 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > I'm sitting here staring at the stack of chevron treaded Pirellis that > the UPS man brought me yesterday, and thinking "would I get better > braking if I put the non-drive wheels on the wrong side

Re: [MBZ] GP Light in Dash

On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 21:07:39 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > With the OM617/616, it meant that the glow plugs didn't draw the same > current, probably because one of them was burnt out. In my 617, it > could also mean my battery was weak. > I think it's the

[MBZ] Hey, Jaime!

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 11:45:20 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: > I put Amsoil in. I figure I'll be the last person to do it for a very > long time after I sell a car, so its worth the money. > > Plus their severe duty stuff quieted a noisy diff in a W123 I had.

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

Dickarde got started when he took over the Mercedes Veterans list from Alex Gabard, and started Banned about the same time for those who had been thrown off the RE list for no reason. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes December 21, 2016 at 8:58 AM A few

Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change

Who is trumo? "scientists" who fake data or who can't discern data that has been altered or faked are not scientists. "Scientists" who believe computer models that have been proven inaccurate are not scientists, especially when the real data argues against their premise. "Scientists" who

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

I think I found the Mercedes Veterans list about 1996. It was mostly about 115, 123, 108 with a few of us also owning 110, 111 and 112 cars. Alex has a 111 230S imported from Calif to .ch. MBCA ran a good ist at that time, but it was mostly 124, 126 and newer, so none of the info was

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

another wide variance between my experience and Herr Doktor's. I almost never have a fuse problem, including places from N WI, to the gulf coast, and Hawaii. If a fuse blows, I fix the problem and change the fuse. if there are electric gremlins, i turn the fuses or take them out and check

[MBZ] Question du jour

Q: HOW do you measure "progress" of something that does not exist? A; "progress is measured by how much taxpayer money is spent. Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] GP Light in Dash

Mitch is right. Light on means imbalance between #1 GP and at least one other plug. Pull the 6 plug connector off at the relay and measure ohms from each pin to ground. 1.4 is what you are looking for. 0 is burned out. 1.7 will work. 2.0 or higher: replacel No light means #1 is bad.

Re: [MBZ] Old computer - was: AC Compressor Reseal

The two computers I had (have, actually) that used cassette interfaces were always fairly reliable, though naturally slow. (Home computing had a long history of cassette interfaces prior to the machines we've been discussing.) I used a Pioneer piano-key cassette recorder that was notably better

Re: [MBZ] GP Light in Dash

Formally, the GP relay is notifying you that it did not like one or more of the GP's. In actuality, the GP relay itself could be bad. It's a fairly easy proof, though: test the GP's. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

They were the ones on the Westfallia. All the older VWs had them. Manfred Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:25:54 -0500 From: Kyle Arola I have had those types on something I used to own, but cant remember what. They blew often enough that i didn't have to worry about

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

I think once a year if you use the cheap aluminum fuses. If you use the copper or brass fuses then they usually don't give much of a problem for 3 or more years. I haven't had any problems with any brass or copper fuses after I put them in in place of the aluminum. Manfred Date: Wed, 21

Re: [MBZ] w123 tailgate aquarium

Did he rule out the taillight lens seals? On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:13 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > I can see it being the window seal or the wiper nozzle seal possibly the > tailgate seal itself at the top. The wiper shaft goes through the glass and > could cause it but

Re: [MBZ] w123 tailgate aquarium

I can see it being the window seal or the wiper nozzle seal possibly the tailgate seal itself at the top. The wiper shaft goes through the glass and could cause it but you would notice the carpet on the door is wet so if that's it it is easy to diagnose but in that case I would think you would

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

Well if he only puts it on the outside surface of the pipe away from the front edge. I kind of have a vision of goop smear indiscriminately all over the pipe right over the front cut edge and then jammed into the hose with the stuff getting shoved ahead of the pipe by the edge of the metal.

Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

The '84 looks nice but has obviously been sadly neglected. Left the hood open long enough to crack the washer fluid reservoir? Not safe to drive with current wiper blades? C'mon, man! On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:59 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > Not as perfect as I would

Re: [MBZ] GP Light in Dash

Not the glow plug relay? On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > With the OM617/616, it meant that the glow plugs didn't draw the same > current, > probably because one of them was burnt out. In my 617, it could also mean > my > battery was

Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change

Trumo wants to fire scientists who believe in climate change. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > House Committee: Obama Fired Top Scientist Over Climate Change: > http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/house-committee- >

[MBZ] Kars For Kyle

Not as perfect as I would like, but could be very good starting points for a long term DD. clay https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/5860013232.html https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/5895164881.html https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/5924964266.html

Re: [MBZ] GP Light in Dash

With the OM617/616, it meant that the glow plugs didn't draw the same current, probably because one of them was burnt out. In my 617, it could also mean my battery was weak. I think it's the same in your car. Mitch. > On December 21, 2016 at 8:22 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

Yes, what MMM said - pegging the gauge is the more important test than the idle pressure in an MB engine. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:02 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > As for the oil pressure...I'd be more worried if it doesn't pin when > revved. > > > --

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

What, you don't like headrests? As for the oil pressure...I'd be more worried if it doesn't pin when revved. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Oh those seats... and that oil pressure... no thank you! > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:55

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

The M117 engine is very robust, and will run a LONG time with the oil pressure at that level. I didn't see much drop at all with 105F days and A/C running in the M117 in the '78 450SLC. The oil pressure is not an issue, at all. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] Climate change skepticism deconstructed - weather vs. climate

Well said, tin man Hard Proven Facts make science.. claims make fantasy and mystery stories. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Andrew wrote: > > SCIENCESkepticism fueled by 'gut' reaction to local weather > > Thanks for the article. >

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

In theory, yes, its in spec, but for how much longer? And what happens when its 105 outside and you have the AC on? On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The oil pressure is probably not a problem, looks like it's in spec to me. > I

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

The oil pressure is probably not a problem, looks like it's in spec to me. I hate it when people redo the seats with crappy aftermarket generic upholstery. I would rather have worn out original. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

Oh those seats... and that oil pressure... no thank you! On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Due to lack of a sunroof this may sell at a reasonable price. > > Wilton? > > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-mercedes-benz-280se-4-5/

Re: [MBZ] Old computer - was: AC Compressor Reseal

The tape drive on our VIC20 always worked great, if slow. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sounds like a bad cable to me... > I'll haul it out next week and give it a shot. > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Wed, Dec

[MBZ] GP Light in Dash

A few years ago someone wrote about what the light remaining lit after an engine is started means. Marshall (RIP) perhaps. I have looked in the Archives without success. I am speaking mostly about W124 diesels. The reason I ask is this AM my 300D was hard to start (very

Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change

House Committee: Obama Fired Top Scientist Over Climate Change: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/house-committee-scientist-energy/2016/12/20 /id/764934/ > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > Sent:

Re: [MBZ] Climate change skepticism deconstructed - weather vs. climate

Andrew wrote: > SCIENCESkepticism fueled by 'gut' reaction to local weather Thanks for the article. However, your argument for the issues of climate change are as inane as the curley arguments - get over it. Establish ways that you want to combat it yerself rather than demand the political hacks

Re: [MBZ] OT - Windows?

Ed wrote: While the *use* of Windows 10 isn't that different from 7, and as an OS is fairly stable and complete, I have to stress on forcing the thing out of auto-update mode. How did you accomplish this? I am not yet using Win10 - but I know I will need to someday...

Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change

On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:54:14 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > There is no doubt there is climate change. It all goes in cycles and > has nothing to do with us. The sun gets hotter, the orbits change a > little.. Yes, the climate changes all the time; no

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member - Marshall

Awesome! Thanks! Kyle On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:20 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > Rick wrote: >> > > ‎Hi there Kyle, welcome to the club. A little about our group >> here, in case you weren't informed. >> > > We have had a few members pass away, most notable among

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member - Marshall

Rick wrote: ‎Hi there Kyle, welcome to the club. A little about our group here, in case you weren't informed. We have had a few members pass away, most notable among them was A. Marshall Booth PhD. The man was a genius in several‎ fields, and Mercedes Benz diesel automobile systems happened

Re: [MBZ] Old computer - was: AC Compressor Reseal

Sounds like a bad cable to me... I'll haul it out next week and give it a shot. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:31 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > > Curt wrote: > > > > > > ... my first computer, the TI99/4A. ...I casually

[MBZ] Installing directional snow tires "backwards"

I'm sitting here staring at the stack of chevron treaded Pirellis that the UPS man brought me yesterday, and thinking "would I get better braking if I put the non-drive wheels on the wrong side of the car"? (this is on my FWD Saturn) The chevron tread pattern moves water to the sides to prevent

Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change

There is no doubt there is climate change. It all goes in cycles and has nothing to do with us. The sun gets hotter, the orbits change a little.. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'm not a denier. I just doubt

Re: [MBZ] Wagons For Kyle

Thanks Rick! I have seen most of those and did not consider them as viable candidates as they all need too much work to turn into nice, reliable, daily drivers that are not rust buckets. I am looking for a "pretty nice" to "dang look at that car!" type of W123 wagon. Kyle On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at

[MBZ] Wagons For Kyle

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/5925295363.html https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5898725809.html https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5888491675.html https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/cto/5906726883.html Wagon for Andrew

Re: [MBZ] Old computer - was: AC Compressor Reseal

> > Curt wrote: > > > > ... my first computer, the TI99/4A. ...I casually mentioned > > that my first computer had 16KB of RAM and we saved programs > > to audio tape. ... The younger folks didn't believe you could > > save programs to audio tape so we had a learning moment... > fmiser wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

On 21/12/2016 9:09 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote: That is a pretty long history! Not really that surprising as the "older" generations seem to not be part of the throw away generation we are seeing today. Hey, who you calling old?? RB ___

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

Just looking at the gray in my mirror! hahaha! Kyle On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 21/12/2016 9:09 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote: > >> That is a pretty long history! Not really that surprising as the "older" >> generations

Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change

I'm not a denier. I just doubt that we are responsible for it as the evidence is not clear. I don't believe in science that is created in order to further a political agenda. I think we should do everything within reason to protect our planet either way. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21,

Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change

The list of RICH climate change deniers is WAY longer than the opposite side. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:39 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > As soon as hell freezes solid and the Ex calls me for a date to go ice > skating.. > > Your buy in to "climate change" is founded

Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

No but I did in a 123 wagon. http://okiebenz.com/funny/wagonoverload/ Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On December 20, 2016 at 7:33 PM Kyle Arola via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> It

Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

> On December 20, 2016 at 7:33 PM Kyle Arola via Mercedes > wrote: > > > It is all about the body style Cool trumps refined any day... And 123's > are cool... Besides that, did Kleb ever haul over a ton of Autotraders in a S124? Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

Yep. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > While sorting out a subscription issue for Randy yesterday, I happened to > notice that Herr Booth's email addy is still subscribed to the list. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad >

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

I can't imagine that I would ever use aluminum anything, but I also have a tendency to buy the higher quality for my vehicles no matter what it is. Even consumables. Kyle On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > And definitely used the high quality

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

And definitely used the high quality copper ones, not the AL ones. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 21, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have had those types on something I used to own, but cant remember what. > They blew often enough that i

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

While sorting out a subscription issue for Randy yesterday, I happened to notice that Herr Booth's email addy is still subscribed to the list. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change

As soon as hell freezes solid and the Ex calls me for a date to go ice skating.. Your buy in to "climate change" is founded on faulty science, not backed by solid historical research that has been properly interpreted. The statistics going back 200 years, when properly applied, show a decade

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

I totally get that Time is always the bottleneck.. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > If somebody wants to build a new site and email me the files I will gladly > upload them. Otherwise I need to get off my ass and do something

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

I have had those types on something I used to own, but cant remember what. They blew often enough that i didn't have to worry about corrosion... hahaha! On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Kyle sez: > > >Change your fuses seems to be

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressor Reseal

Uhh, always? Never had a failure, still works 35 years later... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:31 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > Curt wrote: > ... my first computer, the TI99/4A. ...I casually mentioned that > my first computer

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

Kyle sez: >Change your fuses seems to be >pretty solid advice. Is this a frequent >>problem/occurrence or a once a year >type of event? They are a bullet shaped fuse, with a copper or lead element that is also the contact surface. They tend to corrode and can cause infuriating intermittent

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

If somebody wants to build a new site and email me the files I will gladly upload them. Otherwise I need to get off my ass and do something about it I guess. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Kyle Arola wrote: > > I did notice the super vintage

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

I did notice the super vintage Java Had to add all sorts of exceptions to run the main website! hahaha! Kyle On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A few clarification. I ran the mbz.org lists for Dickarde when they > crashed for

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

That is a pretty long history! Not really that surprising as the "older" generations seem to not be part of the throw away generation we are seeing today. I was introduced to this group and encouraged to get involved by Dan and Manfred and in my quest for a seasoned Mercedes W123 wagon, this

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

A few clarification. I ran the mbz.org lists for Dickarde when they crashed for good in 2005 and moved the list here. The okie website was thrown together by me then and has not been updated since. One of these days maybe I will tackle that. Speaking of Marshall, he was also involved in the

Re: [MBZ] k: Welcome New Member

Karl - do you have an 85 CA version TD? On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Karl, > > I would like to see as many examples as possible so I understand better > what I am getting when we do finally purchase a car. Cali is a haul, no > doubt,

[MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

Due to lack of a sunroof this may sell at a reasonable price. Wilton? http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-mercedes-benz-280se-4-5/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

[MBZ] Anyone jonesing for a 1974 RR Silver Shadow?

Auction ending today and still very affordable. Who wants this beauty? http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-rolls-royce-silver-shadow/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

I had the same problem. Typically, it's the hatch seal and rear quarter window gaskets that can be replaced or resealed, at our option. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Door gasket is the usual suspect when the footwell fills up,

Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change

So you would support a D gov for S Carolina? On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > An R in MA is pretty much a Dem Lite. MA has a history of electing "Rs" > for gubna and it seems to work out pretty well as it provides a minimal > check on

[MBZ] Climate change skepticism deconstructed - weather vs. climate

The National Academy of Science offers a plausible explanation for people like Curley, among others, who take up bandwidth arguing against human-driven climate change and the science that supports it. SCIENCESkepticism fueled by 'gut' reaction to local weather Published: Tuesday, December 20,

Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change

An R in MA is pretty much a Dem Lite. MA has a history of electing "Rs" for gubna and it seems to work out pretty well as it provides a minimal check on the plundering of the treasury. --R On 12/21/16 9:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: And is doing something about it - take note

[MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change

And is doing something about it - take note Curt and Dimitri. GOP climate leader cuts emissions, except from cars Benjamin Storrow , E News reporter Published: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker is a rarity among

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

‎Hi there Kyle, welcome to the club. A little about our group here, in case you weren't informed. Someone please correct me if I am errant in the facts.  This ema‎il group originally started as a MB diesel list, with servers based in Canada. That list was incarnated in the late nineteen

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

Door gasket is the usual suspect when the footwell fills up, but I would suspect the window gasket in your case. Get a new one, re- intalling with an old seal will just give you a bigger leak. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

Clay, That is so true! Looking for the past month and before joining this list and 2 other MB forums I feel that I have a good idea of what these cars are going for. That being said, one of the reasons for joining this merry band of travelers is to get some help with finding this car, making

Re: [MBZ] k: Welcome New Member

Karl, I would like to see as many examples as possible so I understand better what I am getting when we do finally purchase a car. Cali is a haul, no doubt, and I am unsure of shipping costs from there to Florida. We would do that for the "right" car for our family. Kyle On Tue, Dec 20, 2016