Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Fmiser
> Bob Rentfro wrote: > nothing when key is turned to start position. Get all > the correct dash lights, have power in the wire going from > ignition switch to solenoid when key is in start position. All > voltage readings are correct on everything. Everything is > tight and clean. I'm at a

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Dieselhead
the stick). Wilton - Original Message - From: "Bob Rentfro" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update. Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when key is turned to

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
Curtain Craig I just went from the top lug to the small lug on the solenoid and I can hear clicking at the glow plug relay but nothing happens. Bad solenoid? On Apr 8, 2013 12:56 PM, "Craig" wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:19:17 -0700 Bob Rentfro wrote: > > > Okay...glow light comes on again. So

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Randy Bennell
That was my immediate thought as well. If there is power to the solenoid, it should try to kick in unless the solenoid is bad. Unfortunately, with diesels of this vintage (at least on mine) you can't just turn the key on and off a few times to see if it catches. When the solenoid contacts were

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:19:17 -0700 Bob Rentfro wrote: > Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when > key is turned to start position. Get all the correct dash lights, have > power in the wire going from ignition switch to solenoid when key is in > start position. All v

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Curt Raymond
olenoid but not power THROUGH the solenoid its the solenoid... -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:19:17 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update. Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Okay...glow light comes on again.

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
The solenoid/ starter is new Bosch. Well, 3 months old. And yes Wilton, I have mechanically agitated it. Getting a little frustrating. Bob R On Apr 8, 2013 12:46 PM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > If you have B+ at the solenoid wire then it should work when you reconnect > the wire to the solenoid - unle

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread WILTON
t: Monday, April 08, 2013 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update. Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when key is turned to start position. Get all the correct dash lights, have power in the wire going from ignition switch to solenoid when

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Dan Penoff
If you have B+ at the solenoid wire then it should work when you reconnect the wire to the solenoid - unless the solenoid has a problem. Dan On Apr 8, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when key > is turned to start positio

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Max Dillon
Wiring diagram, digital multi-meter, basic understanding of direct current electrical theory, and time with the patient... -OR- A friend with identical year/model car you can compare to your car, but that isn't a sure thing if the problem is deeper than crossed wires. -- Max Dillon Charleston

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when key is turned to start position. Get all the correct dash lights, have power in the wire going from ignition switch to solenoid when key is in start position. All voltage readings are correct on everything. Everything is tight

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Max Dillon
Should click (energize) at position 2, position 3 is the last spring loaded position which energizes the starter? I'm assuming position zero is off, and 1 is the accessory position... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Bob Rentfro wrote: >The previous owner had th

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Max Dillon
Bingo, sounds like your wiring is messed up, AND you've got other issues now complicating the scene. You probably need to start with a wiring diagram, and validate each and every wire connected to the ignition switch and the glow plug relay and the starter. The AC wiring on my '87 wagon had bee

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
You mean the big 80 amp one? It looks good I took it off and cleaned around it and put it back in. I think Herr Doktor would be okay with that. Bob R On Apr 7, 2013 2:11 PM, "Rich Thomas" wrote: > Did you REPLACE THE FUSE? Those things get wonky easily. > > --R > > > On 4/7/13 5:07 PM, Bob Rentf

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Did you REPLACE THE FUSE? Those things get wonky easily. --R On 4/7/13 5:07 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: The previous owner had this car all jacked up. The ignition switch was a disaster so I replaced it. This is a separate problem from the initial problem. I think I have it narrowed down to the glo

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
The previous owner had this car all jacked up. The ignition switch was a disaster so I replaced it. This is a separate problem from the initial problem. I think I have it narrowed down to the glowplug relay now. Its clicking when I turn the key to position three. Bob R On Apr 7, 2013 2:05 PM, "Fmi

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Fmiser
> Bob Rentfro wrote: > Here is the deal: turn the key to position 2 no glow light. > Turn the key to start position, nothing.but I can hear one > kinda loud click coming from the fuse bus area. > The ignition switch (mechanical and electrical portions) has > been replaced. New starter, new cab

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Dieselhead
Here is the deal: turn the key to position 2 no glow light. Turn the key to start position, nothing.but I can hear one kinda loud click coming from the fuse bus area. The ignition switch (mechanical and electrical portions) has been replaced. New starter, new cables, line from ignition switch

Re: [MBZ] 240D power up

2013-03-12 Thread dseretakis
Ah bodywork. My favorite:) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Hopped in my '78 240D the other day and found that when the key was on the > aux fan was always on. Odd, its never done that before. > > So yesterday I took a look and found that with the upper t

Re: [MBZ] 240D power up

2013-03-12 Thread WILTON
And do some more roller painting? ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:55 PM Subject: [MBZ] 240D power up Hopped in my '78 240D the other day and found that when the key was on the aux fan was always on. Odd, its n

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-18 Thread Max Dillon
;Mercedes Discussion List" >Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 6:38 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? > > >> In 201 when I, bought friend's '81 300D, I stopped by Auto Zone one >day to >> see what sort of trailer hitches they might have - not t

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-18 Thread WILTON
Posted Nov 5 when y'all were talking about hitches. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? In 201 when I, bought friend's '

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-18 Thread WILTON
lton - Original Message - From: "Dimitri Seretakis" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? This interests me. Can you send pics? Maybe I should just weld up my own. Sent from my iPhone O

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-09 Thread MG
Um make that SPST a SPDT. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mer

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-09 Thread MG
have to keep my eyes open for one of those little Bosh wiring books. I have one on general automotive systems by Bosch which is really interesting. Has all kinds of info on fuel injection, brakes and so on. Manfred Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 22:41:28 -0600 From: Fmiser Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-09 Thread WILTON
Yep, me too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:57:47 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: >http://www.123dapp.com/design#designDow

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-09 Thread Craig
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:57:47 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > >http://www.123dapp.com/design#designDownloadDetails > > > >--R > > Sheesh! I thought it had to do with 123s. So did I. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-09 Thread Dieselhead
http://www.123dapp.com/design#designDownloadDetails --R Sheesh! I thought it had to do with 123s. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change de

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-09 Thread Craig
On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 10:30:03 -0500 Rich Thomas wrote: > http://www.123dapp.com/design#designDownloadDetails Now I'll have to get virtualbox running so I can run the Windows application Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.o

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-09 Thread Rich Thomas
http://www.123dapp.com/design#designDownloadDetails --R On 11/9/12 10:21 AM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 22:13:37 -0600 Fmiser wrote: Craig wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:08:48 -0600 Rick Knoble wrote: What program did you use to draw that? QCad, a 2-D mechanical drafting program. I w

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-09 Thread Craig
On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 22:13:37 -0600 Fmiser wrote: > > Craig wrote: > > > On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:08:48 -0600 Rick Knoble > > wrote: > > > > > What program did you use to draw that? > > > > QCad, a 2-D mechanical drafting program. > > I wondered if I recognized the type face. QCad is another da

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Fmiser
> > Craig wrote: > > > > Here it is. > MG wrote: > > AH. I see. But that or those, I can't tell, is/are not > standard automotive relays. I have the standard relays but > have no clue as to where to get this or how much it would > cost. Do you have any clue on that. Those relays can be any DPDT (

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Dieselhead
e the standard relays but have no clue as to where to get this or how much it would cost. Do you have any clue on that. Manfred Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:40:28 -0700 From: Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? Here it is. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Fmiser
> Craig wrote: > On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:08:48 -0600 Rick Knoble > wrote: > > > What program did you use to draw that? > > QCad, a 2-D mechanical drafting program. I wondered if I recognized the type face. QCad is another dandy program - but any CAD program is daunting for someone not familiar

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Max Dillon
That's awesome, thanks! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig wrote: >On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:26:40 -0700 Craig wrote: > >> > Could you do me a quick drawing of how to hook up the three >> > relays to do that. >> >> Sure. Give me a little time to do it. > >Here it is. > > >Craig

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread MG
AH. I see. But that or those, I can't tell, is/are not standard automotive relays. I have the standard relays but have no clue as to where to get this or how much it would cost. Do you have any clue on that. Manfred Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:40:28 -0700 From: Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Craig
On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:08:48 -0600 Rick Knoble wrote: > What program did you use to draw that? QCad, a 2-D mechanical drafting program. I was going to use gEDA, which includes a schematic capture program, as I did at work, but I didn't have it installed on my home computer and didn't want to ta

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread WILTON
to know much about physics, i. e., gravity and tree limbs. Please don't quit your day job to take up tree cutting." Wilton -- Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:45 PM Subject:

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Dieselhead
The numbers are standard euro terminal numbers on the relays. Same as the numbers on the ones in mercedes service manual. 30= + power 85 + 86 are the coil connections. I don't think it matters which is grnd and which is the + signal from the car's lights. 87 is NC 87a is NO The power from

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread MG
14:18 -0500 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? Yes Manfred, that would be good. I'm interested in the euro style with the j style hook. I'm not sure about the harness but that should probably come with it? Seems like Oris is a good brand. Let me know

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Peter Frederick
Knowledge is knowledge. The advantage of getting a PhD from a good university (and they are not all good, nor all all PhDs) is that you KNOW that the person with one has proven that they can define an question and answer it well enough to publish something peer reviewed. Other people have

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Dieselhead
Rick An un-educated rube with little post HS education who just answered a question from a nuclear physicist. Maybe I'm not so dumb after all. (don't tell my teenaged sons) Sent from my iPhone Nobody knows everything, even about a very narrow area. Ph.D. students biggest hurdle is often d

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread MG
Yeah, looks like I got turned around on the 87 and 87a. Sorry about that. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Rick Knoble
On Nov 8, 2012, at 5:40 PM, "Craig" wrote: >>> Could you do me a quick drawing of how to hook up the three >>> relays to do that. >> >> Sure. Give me a little time to do it. > > Here it is. What program did you use to draw that? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread MG
Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:47:51 -0500 MG wrote: > I couldn't figure out how to pass the blinker signal through to > the trailer and at the same time send the brake signal through to > the other light without using a relay for each

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Craig
On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:26:40 -0700 Craig wrote: > > Could you do me a quick drawing of how to hook up the three > > relays to do that. > > Sure. Give me a little time to do it. Here it is. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Screenshot.png

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Prawn Stars

2012-11-08 Thread Hendrik & Fay
When was this, according to this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUpiARhpUv8&feature=related they only sell their own memorabilia. Perhaps I'll do my own reality show and dig up interesting stuff every week, or have near misses, or dig up fake fibre optic cables. Of course I'll have to hire

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread Frederick Moir
ay, November 8, 2012 3:28 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars > >'Zackly. >BTW, could a musket become a rifle if it were rifled.  Maybe, only if it's >ball/bullet were big enough for the rifling to spin it? > >Wilton > __

Re: [MBZ] 240D or a toasty AMG

2012-11-08 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Hmmnh, spose Roger will have advice on products and techniques to use. I was thinking an angle grinder and sand blasting, hang on, no I know a bloke who needs an anchor for his boat. Hendrik who kinda wonders why the thing went up in smoke On 08/11/12 23:56, Rich Thomas wrote: That'll buff ri

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread WILTON
Yep. 'Zackly what I thought. Thanks for the link; 'didn't know about rifled muskets - just thought it'd be logical. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Tim C" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:42 PM Subject

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread Tim C
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:28 PM, WILTON wrote: > 'Zackly. > BTW, could a musket become a rifle if it were rifled. Maybe, only if it's > ball/bullet were big enough for the rifling to spin it? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifled_musket Those crazy French. Best, Tim _

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread WILTON
Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars That is correct. Therefore, it is less accurate. I'm guessing that a musket does not have "rifling," eh? ;<) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For ne

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread Dieselhead
That is correct. Therefore, it is less accurate. I'm guessing that a musket does not have "rifling," eh? ;<) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Uns

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Max Dillon
Kaleb, Another one for the quotes page! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rick Knoble wrote: >On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:26 AM, "Craig" wrote: > >> BTW, do you have an explanation of the various terminal numbers: >> >> 30 >> 85 >> 86 >> 87 >> 87a >> >> ? > > >86 is A1 (Armature 1 or c

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Rick Knoble
On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:26 AM, "Craig" wrote: > BTW, do you have an explanation of the various terminal numbers: > > 30 > 85 > 86 > 87 > 87a > > ? 86 is A1 (Armature 1 or coil+) 85 is A2 (Armature 2 or coil-) 30 is common for the NO or NC (normally open or normally closed) Contacts 87 is NO 87a

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread WILTON
I'm guessing that a musket does not have "rifling," eh? ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars I've been to the Go

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread Dieselhead
I've been to the Gold and Silver Pawn shop and I thought their prices were high. They had a Springfield trapdoor .45-70 they wanted $1300, it was pretty nice, maybe 6 out of 10. Dad has a much nicer one he paid $800 for from a gun dealer... When I asked to look at it the guy gave the whole talk

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread Curt Raymond
that muskets were rifles. Oh well, its not a gun shop after all... -Curt Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:28:42 -0500 From: Dan Penoff To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars Message-ID: <43211d63-7253-4e5c-bc16-42a1eb1b8...@penoff.com> Content-Type: tex

Re: [MBZ] 240D or a toasty AMG

2012-11-08 Thread G Mann
Hey, that will buff right out.. no worries mate. Grant... On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/**MERCEDES-BENZ-C63-AMG-2009-** > WRECKING-CAR-FOR-PARTS-/**140791687171?pt=AU_Car_Parts_**Accessories&hash= > **item20c7d6a803

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Craig
On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:47:51 -0500 MG wrote: > I couldn't figure out how to pass the blinker signal through to > the trailer and at the same time send the brake signal through to > the other light without using a relay for each brake light signal > and one for each blinker signal. I attached a

Re: [MBZ] 240D or a toasty AMG

2012-11-08 Thread Rich Thomas
That'll buff right out --R On 11/8/12 1:32 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-C63-AMG-2009-WRECKING-CAR-FOR-PARTS-/140791687171?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20c7d6a803 Makes that /8 look cheap, however the engine just needs a clean up Hendr

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread Jon Agne
aining ground. >> >> >> >> ____________ >> From: Bob Rentfro >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 2:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars >> >> Chip is like BFF

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread John Reames
I still have mine somewhere... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 7, 2012, at 22:38, Fmiser wrote: >> Mitch Haley wrote: > >> Suddenly there were people on >> eBay who were convinced a 1960s-1970s Benjamin pump up pellet >> pistol was worth hun

Re: [MBZ] 240D or a toasty AMG

2012-11-07 Thread Hendrik & Fay
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-C63-AMG-2009-WRECKING-CAR-FOR-PARTS-/140791687171?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20c7d6a803 Makes that /8 look cheap, however the engine just needs a clean up Hendrik who will not be submitting a bid On 08/11/12 11:55, Mitch Haley wrot

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-07 Thread MG
me a quick drawing of how to hook up the three relays to do that. Manfred Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:24:56 -0700 From: Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:13:00 -0500 MG wrote: > I am going to build a combiner made of 4 relays to combine the >

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-07 Thread Fmiser
> Mitch Haley wrote: > Suddenly there were people on > eBay who were convinced a 1960s-1970s Benjamin pump up pellet > pistol was worth hundreds. I'd pick them up from airgun > dealers, like new in box, for $60-80 and list them on eBay for > $0.99, they'd sell for about $150-175 to people who thou

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Or a TTL chip driven by a three-terminal regulator and voltage converters, but relays would be more rugged. There's a reason that 4000-series CMOS is still in use, even 40 years after its introduction. No regulator, no voltage converters. You'd need one 4070 XOR and a Darlington relay driver, a

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: This sort of behavior does two things: It causes the general public to have unrealistic expectations of value for something; and, it drives prices up in the market for much the same reason. So you buy from knowledgeable collectors and dealers, then sell to the general publ

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-07 Thread Dan Penoff
ob Rentfro > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 2:30 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars > > Chip is like BFF with Wayne. > > Bob R > On Nov 7, 2012 11:53 AM, "Alex Chamberlain" wrote: > >> Anybody els

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-07 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
These events only go to show that low mileage, clean original W123s are gaining ground. From: Bob Rentfro To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars Chip is like BFF with Wayne

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
Chip is like BFF with Wayne. Bob R On Nov 7, 2012 11:53 AM, "Alex Chamberlain" wrote: > Anybody else watch the show "Chasing Classic Cars" on Velocity Channel? > The host buys and sells a huge variety of interesting iron, mostly older > Ferraris and Porsches but lots of other stuff too. The las

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-07 Thread Craig
On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:39:24 -0800 Jim Cathey wrote: > > BrakeTurnTrailer Lamp > >00 0 > >01 1 > >10 1 > >11 0 > > Standard XOR logic function.

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Jim Cathey
BrakeTurnTrailer Lamp 00 0 01 1 10 1 11 0 Standard XOR logic function. You could consider digital logic (<$1 PIC?) driving one relay. -- Jim _

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Craig
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:13:00 -0500 MG wrote: > I am going to build a combiner made of 4 relays to combine the > brake and blinker lights. This will be wired into the wires from > the car lights to the trailer plug. In looking at the problem, I figured out how to do it with only 3 relays. You w

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Craig
On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:19:09 -0800 "Jerry Herrman" wrote: > OK, I.m confused. Is there a "real" Fleabay, or is it just a term for > Ebay to make it interesting (like when we write "stealership")? The latter. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread dseretakis
sion from emailing that the items are all off the cars and the > rest of vehicle is no longer with us. > > I'm hoping for about $50, that would leave $25 for the shipping. We'll see, > I'll let you know. > > Manfred > > > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:14:18 -050

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread MG
That's what I would like to find or one by Curt (I think). It fastens to the bumper attach points also. Only problem is it is way to expensive so I may be making my own. Manfred Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:14:37 -0500 From: Max Dillon Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? Oris

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread MG
trailer at any time it will kill the electronics in that unit and there goes $20. Manfred Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:02:47 -0500 From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? WILTON wrote: > Re. wiring harness: On my 123, I merely spliced into rear lights, > signal light

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread MG
d leave $25 for the shipping. We'll see, I'll let you know. Manfred Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:14:18 -0500 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? Yes Manfred, that would be good. I'm interested in the euro style with the j style hook. I'm

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Randy Bennell
Yeah, but doesn't it sound like it would be fun to have an extra light back there like Wilton has? Or, you could get some used tail lights from another MB and install them so that they matched the car. Randy On 06/11/2012 5:47 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Simple little device called a tailligh

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Michael Canfield
Simple little device called a taillight converter takes care of that. Available anywhere towing accessories are sold. Mike On Nov 6, 2012 1:03 PM, "Mitch Haley" wrote: > WILTON wrote: > >> Re. wiring harness: On my 123, I merely spliced into rear lights, signal >> lights, etc., in trunk for a t

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread WILTON
Three small, separate fixtures (two red, one yellow) mounted vertically on each side of the trailer - tail light, brake light, signal light. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:02

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Max Dillon
tal plate on the inside to provide better support. The back part is >bolted to the bottom of the bumper. I have towed quite a bit of weight >on a Harbor Freight trailer. The one with the 12" rims. I like the >bigger wheels better then those little donuts. >> >> Manfred &g

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks for correcting me guys. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD MG wrote: >Amen brother Ben. > >Manfred > > >Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 00:02:38 -0600 >From: Fmiser >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? > > > MG wrote: > > &g

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Craig
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:02:47 -0500 Mitch Haley wrote: > How do you handle the issue of separate brake and turn lamps on the car > vs combined stop/turn lamps on the trailer? I added a separate light on each side for the turn signals on our trailer. Now we have a Big Red Van (BRV (tm)) that has

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Max Dillon wrote: Perfect picture, but is that euro? Sure looks like the euro hitch with integrated 50mm ball to me. All the USA market hitches I've seen have balls on threaded shafts that bolt on to a tongue or ball mount. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Max Dillon
Perfect picture, but is that euro? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig wrote: >On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 06:48:08 -0500 Max Dillon > >wrote: > >> What you need is to look in the EPC and get the factory installation >> instructions, then you'll have pictures and rough diagrams to give

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Max Dillon
Sorry typo, should be three pieces "of" steel. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig wrote: >On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 06:48:08 -0500 Max Dillon > >wrote: > >> What you need is to look in the EPC and get the factory installation >> instructions, then you'll have pictures and rough diag

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Re. wiring harness: On my 123, I merely spliced into rear lights, signal lights, etc., in trunk for a trailer receptacle mounted by the hitch. 'Planned to do same for 124, but I've needed the trailer so little for several years, that I still haven't done it on 124. BTW, everyth

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread WILTON
ing, including cruise, worked normally on the 123, with or without trailer. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jon Agne" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? Even if it doesn't

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Jon Agne
Even if it doesn't have a wiring harness, they are easy to do. On Nov 6, 2012, at 12:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > Yes Manfred, that would be good. I'm interested in the euro style with the j > style hook. I'm not sure about the harness but that should probably come with > it? Seems lik

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread dseretakis
Yes Manfred, that would be good. I'm interested in the euro style with the j style hook. I'm not sure about the harness but that should probably come with it? Seems like Oris is a good brand. Let me know what you find. Prob up to $75 but less would be better! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2012

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread MG
Amen brother Ben. Manfred Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 00:02:38 -0600 From: Fmiser Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? > MG wrote: > I think Max is talking about the hitch on a wagon and you are > talking about one on a sedan. The one that attaches to the > floor is in a s

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread MG
I am in contact with a guy in Orlando who has several for a sedan. I'm going down there to look at some other stuff for me so if you want me to see how good they are and possibly get you one let me know as well as how much you want to spend. Yeah I know free would be good but probably won't hap

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Craig
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 06:48:08 -0500 Max Dillon wrote: > What you need is to look in the EPC and get the factory installation > instructions, then you'll have pictures and rough diagrams to give you > the design concept. > > Trust me, three pieces SF steel, a receiver, draw bar with ball, you're >

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread WILTON
Write-up and photos of my hitch installation (123 and 124) are awaiting approval by list mommy. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

Re: [MBZ] 240D Engine Mounts

2012-11-06 Thread Scott Ritchey
onday, November 05, 2012 10:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Engine Mounts I jacked the engine back up a tad, lined everything up with a drift pin and it lined up fine. What a huge difference they make. Wicked smooth now. I love how errthing on this 240 is so much easier t

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Max Dillon
What you need is to look in the EPC and get the factory installation instructions, then you'll have pictures and rough diagrams to give you the design concept. Trust me, three pieces SF steel, a receiver, draw bar with ball, you're done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD dsereta..

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Fmiser
> MG wrote: > I think Max is talking about the hitch on a wagon and you are > talking about one on a sedan. The one that attaches to the > floor is in a sedan and the bumper attach point one is on a > station wagon, as far as I have seen anyway. That's because what's the floor in the sedan is a

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread dseretakis
On second thought it looks a bit complicated especially since I don't have one to copy! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > THAT is a good idea! I would have considered that if I had your talent and > tools. > > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300 > '

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