Re: [newbie] Netscape hang...

2000-07-14 Thread Paul
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Wishingtree Publishing wrote: Hello, I have just gotten 7.1 to finally install, and now anytime I try to edit preferences in Netscape, the ENTIRE system locks up, and the only way to move on is to restart (echos of windows). Any pointers before I am forced to switch back to

Re: [newbie] Install partitions help

2000-07-14 Thread ron
Jeff Malka wrote: I just received my 7.1 CDs and installed Mandrake 7.1 with no apparent problems! However that was no feat because I just used the "recommended" install. That installed everything together and I would prefer to have separate partitions for various mounting points. Prior

[newbie] Netscape hang...

2000-07-14 Thread Wishingtree Publishing
Hello, I have just gotten 7.1 to finally install, and now anytime I try to edit preferences in Netscape, the ENTIRE system locks up, and the only way to move on is to restart (echos of windows). Any pointers before I am forced to switch back to RH 6.1 just so I can get my email? Thanks for your

Re: [newbie] Anti-virus software

2000-07-14 Thread Kim White
There is a package on the EXT CD-ROM of mandrake. Don't know why. Regards Kim - Original Message - From: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 03:37 Subject: Re: [newbie] Anti-virus software Anti-virus

Re: [newbie] INETD Server Problem

2000-07-14 Thread Pedro _
Hi! I am trying to put my FTP server working too... I have mandrake 7.02 air and I have read the following: Local Telnet and FTP http://www.mandrakeuser.org/connect/ctrans.html (this article seems old, because BeroFTPD is not part of LM7.02) Setting up ftp server

Re: [newbie] Acrobat Reader

2000-07-14 Thread Tsweny
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[newbie] How do I close these ports?

2000-07-14 Thread Hugh
I have installed Pmfirewall, During a scan of my ports I found three ports open. 515/tcp printer , 1024/tcp kdm , 6000/tcp x11. Can any of these be closed? And does anyone know if I should try ? :) TIA

Re: [newbie] Lost root password

2000-07-14 Thread joakim viktorsson
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Jeff Malka wrote: Does not sound like much security to me. as always (hey, it's linux), you can configure this out, if you feel it's unsafe. to run in single-user mode, you need to be at a console - you need to be at the machine physically. your machine can't be hijacked

[newbie] KDE2.0 question

2000-07-14 Thread Joe Brault
Hello all, I have a question about upgrading my current xwindow system (KDE1.1.2). Does KDE get updated if I click on the update icon on the desktop? If not, what exactly do I need to do to upgrade KDE? And if the upgrade option doesn't upgrade KDE, what does it update...? Thanks

Re: [newbie] Lost root password

2000-07-14 Thread Eric MC.D
Yes, it can !! With or without 'single' or 'init 1'. All you have to do is, have a boot and rescue floppy at dispo. Eric Keith Robinson wrote: Jeff, if someone can physically access a machine and boot it, there is no software security possible, regardless of the operating system. --

RE: [newbie] How do I close these ports?

2000-07-14 Thread Mundell, Ronald
comment them out in the services file under /etc/ -Original Message- From: Hugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 2:08 PM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] How do I close these ports? I have installed Pmfirewall, During a scan of my ports I found three ports open.

[newbie] uninstalling Lilo

2000-07-14 Thread Alan Carpenter
whats the commands for uninstalling Lilo??? In terminal mode, can I just type "lilo -U" will that work??? Also Does anyone have a Adaptec 2930?? Linux doesn't see it at all. Is there something special I need to do?? Thanks for your help. Alan

Re: [newbie] Install partitions help

2000-07-14 Thread Charles A Edwards
Jeff I got tied up yesterday and was not able to get back to you, Sorry. You could create a boot partition but there would be nothing to put in it if you are using Grub. I have never used LILO ( in 7.0 it would not install on my sysytem and in 7.1 I went with the default, Grub) so I do not

RE: [newbie] Question...

2000-07-14 Thread Kelly, Christopher
Frank, Thanks for the advice...! -Original Message- From: Frank Nazario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 1:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Question... "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: I am very new to Linux, so, forgive me for this stupid

Re: [newbie] KDE2.0 question

2000-07-14 Thread Charles A Edwards
Joe You can not update KDE using the update option. If you are interested in updating to KDE 2 you can find info at http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc KDE 2 is not an update it is a "new" program. The best way to find out what the update will do is to connect to the internet and run

Re[2]: [newbie] Netscape/password

2000-07-14 Thread Roman Korcek
Hi, Should it not be the mail account password rather than the ISP password ? Roman "Eric MC.D" wrote: Darryl Gibson wrote: Hello list, When I select "Get Messages" in Netscape I'm prompted for a password. My user's password doesn't work, but Root's password does. Root isn't even

[newbie] Install bug 7.1

2000-07-14 Thread mcoady
Tried to install 7.1 but didn't get passed "initializing CDrom" before the deadly "Transsocket" message appeared. (Am using SiS 6326 card). And yet, Mandrake 6 worked well on my machine. Tried the "Linux text" entry but got lost. Somewhere I read there is a bug in the graphic install mode

[newbie]

2000-07-14 Thread Alfred Basta
Name: Alfred Basta e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (416)492-6323 Product Name:LINUX Mandrake 7.0 Deluxe Computer: Toshiba Satellite 4020 Laptop Processor: Intel Pentuim II 300MHZ Ram:64 MB Cards: 3Com Megahertz 3CCFEM556B ( Lan + 56K Modem) PCI Printer: HP Deskjet 722C Scanner: Storm Scanner

[newbie] GNOME

2000-07-14 Thread A. Canela
How can I run GNOME from de console? startx command runs my KDE - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE2.0 question Joe You can not update KDE using the update option. If

Re: [newbie] Anti-virus software

2000-07-14 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Dennis Myers wrote: I think I saw a brief message about antivirus protection on the list but have inadvertently deleted it? Anyway, does anybody remeber this software for Linux? Point me in that direction and I'm off baying like a hound in persuit. Thanks, Dennis -- Dennis-Registered

[newbie] Deluxe/complete v7.1 question....

2000-07-14 Thread Ronald J. Hall
I'm just a little confused about the differences between the Deluxe and Complete versions of 7.1. Which is the better package to buy? I did check Mandrake's site, but still didn't glean much... Thanks! -- /\ DarkLord

[newbie] Running OpenGL/GLide software...

2000-07-14 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Okay. I've got a Voodoo 3000 card, with Mandrake version 7.1, so I've got the 3Dfx stuff working, (I can run test3Dfx from root or user), and I can play the Quake3 demo just fine. My question is; how do I get the GL screensavers, and the Xmms plugins to recognise everything? In other words, how

Re: [newbie] Question...

2000-07-14 Thread Charles A Edwards
What "bug" are you refering to in GRUB. I have seen no posting that would indicate a bug, moreover there is not a reported problem with GRUB listed at Mandrake. I have seen postings in regards to boot problems but those have been system/hadrware problems Not a bug problem. I have been

Re: [newbie] Lost root password

2000-07-14 Thread Jeff Malka
Oh, I am not paranoid. Just a newbie trying to understand the ins and outs of Linux. Actually it is good to know there is a way out if you should lose you root password - (or want to impress a newbie).;-) Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message -

Re: [newbie] Install partitions help

2000-07-14 Thread Jeff Malka
I'll answer the one question I can! I have PM 5.0. It can see and create Linux xf2 and swap partitions. In fact I have used it for that purpose and then let Linux re-format them because I had mnessed up my partition table when I let Linux do the whole thing - possibly my fault. I have not

RE: Re[2]: [newbie] Netscape/password

2000-07-14 Thread Myers, Dennis R NWO
Title: RE: Re[2]: [newbie] Netscape/password Good question, on my machine it is the ISP password, that's where Netscape goes to get mail. In thinking about it I would say that the password should be what is required to connect to the POP3 or IMAP. So, it may be either the ISP or the mail

Re: [newbie] how to unsubscribe or temporarily drop

2000-07-14 Thread William Fisher
I see questions about this on the list. would it be possible to add instructions to unsubscribe or temporarily stop receiving messages be put on the bottom of all messages on this list? Bill

Re: [newbie] GRUB/Lilo question

2000-07-14 Thread Philomena
Hi Tom, Finally got around to checking out the "info grub" and it did indeed do the trick. I was surprised that I could not change what I needed to change through the Drakboot interface - I had to edit the grub menu file to properly indicate where to look for the boot image. Thanks for the

[newbie] E-APPLETS!!!!

2000-07-14 Thread Jon Sider
I'm running Gnome w/Enlightment as my window manager, and the first time i loaded enlightment, i opened up some e-applets. Now it seems, everytime i login, it spawns 5 copies of like 6 different e-applets I have to kill like 40 processes to get rid of them all. I checked my startup

Re: [newbie] GNOME

2000-07-14 Thread Charles A Edwards
I use the graphical login and from the Session menu I can select which window starts. From the console you can start GNOME by using Ctrl-Alt-Fn. I think Gnome is either 3 or 4 but don,t hold me to that. If you want to change which window manager the startx command launches to a new

[newbie] Partitions

2000-07-14 Thread Martin Sprenger
Hi *!*@*.* IIRC Mandrake 7.0 creates four different partitions when you click on auto allocate /, /boot, /home and swap 7.1 auto allocates only /, /home and swap (which is sometimes bigger than 128 MB - I read somewhere that this is the limit for swap partition). What's the advantage of having

Re: [newbie] Install partitions help

2000-07-14 Thread Charles A Edwards
Jeff I have been trying to decide if upgrading to PM 5 would be worth the $20 tag. Between PM 4 and DiskDrake I can do most anything anything I choose so I think I will save the money. Thanks for your imput. In as far as I am aware increasing the # of partition you use offers no more

Re: [newbie] Anti-virus software

2000-07-14 Thread Dana
UNIX/Linux variant of the ILOVEYOU bug. "This virus works on the honor system: please forward this message to everyone you know and delete a bunch of your files at random. --from linux-list - Original Message - From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

RE: [newbie] Mouse dies with Hi-CPU usage

2000-07-14 Thread Darren Garner
Thanks for the advice! Unfortunately, that did not seem to resolve the issue. I set PNP/OS = yes but the mouse still dies. Do you have any other ideas? Darren -Original Message- From: Jose M. Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 7:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie]

2000-07-14 Thread poogle
I'm not sure but I think this is a winprinter, check out the newbie archive I believe there is something in there somewhere On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, you wrote: Name: Alfred Basta e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (416)492-6323 Product Name:LINUX Mandrake 7.0 Deluxe Computer: Toshiba Satellite

Re: [newbie] how to unsubscribe or temporarily drop

2000-07-14 Thread Paul
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, William Fisher wrote: I see questions about this on the list. would it be possible to add instructions to unsubscribe or temporarily stop receiving messages be put on the bottom of all messages on this list? Bill We'll have to interrogate Dennis when he comes back, the

Re: [newbie] mouse driver and CD-ROM problems

2000-07-14 Thread Steve Howes
Roman Korcek wrote: Hey Romanator, Hmmm...I used to have MDK7.0 installed but I am using MDK7.1 which offers a button called MouseDrake to change your mouse driver. Don't have such a thing (MouseDrake), at least I don't think so. When you pressed Cntrl+Alt+Backspace, were you able

Re: [newbie] Helix? What is it?

2000-07-14 Thread Steve Howes
Anthony Huereca wrote: Helix Gnome is just an implimentation of Gnome. A company took the Gnome source code and improved on it, and released it as Helix Gnome (or at least I *think* that's how it is). Anyway, I really like it, and if you have a fast connection it's well worth downloading.

Re: [newbie] GNOME

2000-07-14 Thread Paul
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, A. Canela wrote: How can I run GNOME from de console? startx command runs my KDE You can use the "switchdesk" command in a console. Another option is to edit or create ~/.Xclients and put this in there: #!/bin/bash exec gnome-session To get back to KDE you write: exec

[newbie] ICQ / Sygate

2000-07-14 Thread Paul
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Paul wrote: Not true. Open up port 4000. But that might not allow direct connections (chat) but you can still message. Better yet get a firewall proxy that supports ICQ in fully like Sygate. I use it and ICQ works great. Oh, nice! Thanks, I did not know that existed!

Re: [newbie] Acrobat Reader

2000-07-14 Thread Paul
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Tsweny wrote: "unsubscribe" Amazing how stubborn... - Original Message - From: "Paul" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Acrobat Reader On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Tsweny wrote: un subscribe Tell

Re: [newbie]

2000-07-14 Thread AOLShopGAM
Any HP7xx printer will be a WinPrinter. Jerry I'm not sure but I think this is a winprinter, check out the newbie archive I believe there is something in there somewhere On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, you wrote: Name: Alfred Basta e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (416)492-6323

Re: [newbie] Mouse dies with Hi-CPU usage

2000-07-14 Thread Charles A Edwards
Sorry, but you want to have PNP/OS set to NO. You want the motherboard to assign the IRQs not the OS. For your mouse problem try switching to a generic 2 or 3 button mouse driver and see if the problem still occurs. Charles . - Original Message - From: "Darren Garner" [EMAIL

Re: [newbie]

2000-07-14 Thread Charles A Edwards
The following was copied at www.linux.com Hewlett Packard DeskJet 722C (http://hp.com) Category: Printer Is it usable: sort of Kernel Versions: = 2.2.10 (my kenel version) Description: It is possible to use this printer in Linux, but only in black and white mode. It is necessary to acquire

RE: [newbie] Mouse dies with Hi-CPU usage

2000-07-14 Thread Jose M. Sanchez
Check the output of lsdev. Also try selecting another mouse type driver which works with your mouse. For instance the MS PS/2 mouse drivers don't always work with the intellimouse drivers and vice-versa. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: Darren Garner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent:

Re: [newbie] LILO Mandrake 7.1, resume

2000-07-14 Thread Dacia and AzureRose
As far as I know, it is not accurate to say that there is not an issue with 1024 cyl and LBA mode disks. I have 2 (8.4 gig and 17.2 gig) drives both in LBA mode and both had issues with either LILO or bootmagic and the 1024 cyl thing at one time or another. As far as I have read, there is also

Re: [newbie] Swap partition

2000-07-14 Thread Darryl Gibson
Charles A Edwards wrote: Darryl Yes to both questions. As usual, it was easier said than done. I can't unmount me / partition to free up space for the swap partition. Diskdrake tells me something is busy on the / partition, which makes sense. I thought I might be able to work around that

Re: [newbie] Registration number

2000-07-14 Thread Alexander Skwar
On Fri, Jul 14, 2000 at 04:52:34PM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: with their sigs. you can get that from www.countr.li.org That's http://counter.li.org Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:

Re: [newbie] Lost root password

2000-07-14 Thread Dacia and AzureRose
You have to have physical access to the machine to do this. Pretty secure against internet hacks. Not secure against roommates ;-) Dacia --- Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does not sound like much security to me. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 -

RE: [newbie] Cannot configure sound on 7.1

2000-07-14 Thread Hugo GONZALEZ
I don't have sounds either (cannot play system sounds, wav files, etc), but music CDs and avi videos have no problem: sound is perfect. Try playing a CD, I didn't realized CD had sound until two weeks after I installed Mandrake. Why CDs and avi files have no problem with sound? I still don't

Re: [newbie] Swap partition

2000-07-14 Thread Darryl Gibson
John Glasscock wrote: Swap can only use the same amount of HD space as you have RAM. It makes no sense to create a large swap partion unless you have immenent plans to increase the amount of RAM you have in your machine, which with linux is always a good thing to do. Ok, there seems to

Re: [newbie]

2000-07-14 Thread Mark Weaver
That's a pretty common problem. I've got a Canon BJC6000 and there aren't "any" drivers or support for this printer. What I did was use one of the drivers for an older, earlier Canon model and for what ever reason it's printing. There's a utility in Mandrake 7.1 called g-print. Give this a try

Re: [newbie] uninstalling Lilo

2000-07-14 Thread Mark Weaver
Alan, When you boot your machine, press F8 as it's booting and boot to a C:\ prompt. at the prompt type: fdisk /mbr and hit enter. This will completely uninstall LILO from the MBR. DO NOT do this though unless you have a boot disk to get back into Linux cause if you don't have one you're not

Re: [newbie] Question...

2000-07-14 Thread Dacia and AzureRose
Grub works great for me with my win98 dual boot. I feel a bit nostalgic for LILO but thats my only complaint with it. Dacia --- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What "bug" are you refering to in GRUB. I have seen no posting that would indicate a bug, moreover there is not a

RE: [newbie] Cannot configure sound on 7.1

2000-07-14 Thread Mark Weaver
Hugo, did you have to do anything special to get the sound working for the music CD's? I can't get mine working for love or money. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Hugo GONZALEZ

Re: [newbie] Swap partition

2000-07-14 Thread Dacia and AzureRose
Mud on your motherboard?!?!?! Holy Schmidt!@ I suggest you buy some isopropol alcohol and q-tips and maybe some really soft rags and get that mud off of that board. Simple dust can cause heat build up and electrical disturbances on a motherboard which translate to random locks, crashes,

Re: [newbie] CD RW compatibility

2000-07-14 Thread John Glasscock
As a heads up to those looking into CD-RW, MaximumLinux magazine is going to do a feature on CD-RW in the next issue, due to hit the newstands around 1 September 2000. Be aware that if you write a CD-RW, there is a great probability that you will only be able to read that CD on the machine that

Re: [newbie] Swap partition

2000-07-14 Thread Darryl Gibson
Dacia and AzureRose wrote: Mud on your motherboard?!?!?! Holy Schmidt!@ I suggest you buy some isopropol alcohol and q-tips Yes yes, I understand the implications. The "mud" is only on the solder side of the motherboard, and it's only a very fine patina, that was left behind when the

Re: [newbie] Cannot configure sound on 7.1

2000-07-14 Thread Dennis Myers
Hugo GONZALEZ wrote: I don't have sounds either (cannot play system sounds, wav files, etc), but music CDs and avi videos have no problem: sound is perfect. Try playing a CD, I didn't realized CD had sound until two weeks after I installed Mandrake. Why CDs and avi files have no problem with

Re: [newbie] Cannot configure sound on 7.1

2000-07-14 Thread John Glasscock
Jeff, I have 7.1 also. Is this a pci card or isa? If pci, do a cat /proc/pci and look for what it says about your card. There is a helpful file about this as it applies to modems at http://www.o2.net/%7Egromitkc/pedersen.txt but the same process is probably true for sound cards. If you have an

Re: [newbie] Upgrading to Mandrake 7.1

2000-07-14 Thread John Glasscock
I would use DrakConf as I have just done an install with it to upgrade errata. If it doesn't come on the 7.0 distro, you might be able to download it, install, and then run it. It downloads the packages and installs them for you. If you want to muck about, don't use it. but if you have work to

[newbie] Bunch o Questions (MDK 7.1)

2000-07-14 Thread Ben Ruset
Alright, most of this has probably already been pulverised into the ground, but I'll ask anyway. Trying to install Mandrake 7.1 on a Unisys Aquanta HR/6 server. It's a 6 processor Pentium Pro 200 machine, currently with 2gb of RAM. Needless to say, the installs don't go too well. Originally the

Re: [newbie] CD RW compatibility

2000-07-14 Thread Romanator
Hi Alan, Just caught the end of the thread. I am also looking for burner. We use a Smart Friendly burner in our R D department. Is the CD-R4012 a fairly recent model? Roman Alan Shoemaker wrote: BenI use a scsi CD-R 4012 from Smart Friendly, no problems, but no W either. :-) I had

Re: [newbie] X 4.0 and imwheel not allowing ZAxisMapping !!

2000-07-14 Thread Mike Tracy Holt
You have to edit the XF86Config-4 file if you're using 4.0 and then you need to follow the syntax rules that they are using, ie: Option"ZAxisMapping""4 5" Mike I tried to insert into XF86Config the following statement to get my wheelmouse to work ZAxisMapping 4 5 X won't

Re: [newbie] Upgrading to Mandrake 7.1

2000-07-14 Thread Keith Robinson
please send e-mail in plain text not html, thanks. -- Keith On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, you wrote: !doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en" html I would use DrakConf as I have just done an install with it to upgrade errata.nbsp; If it doesn't come on the 7.0 distro, you might

[newbie] Linux upgrade to 7.1

2000-07-14 Thread Dennis Myers
I have not seen on the list where this was addressed, but if I get the 7.1 distro and put it on my linux box will it work to do an upgrade of my 7.0? or am I better off doing a clean install? If I upgrade I assume the partitions will need to be changed to increase boot. Any experience and

[newbie] refresh rate

2000-07-14 Thread surianto chen
hello all, i'm a new user in linux and currently using mandrake 7.0. i'd like to ask about how to change my monitor refresh rate from 56 hz to 85 hz (vertical). because in my windows 98 (i use both windows and linux mandrake in the same computer) i can have a 85 hz refresh rate at 800x600

[newbie] Text v. HTML messages on this list

2000-07-14 Thread John Glasscock
A correspondent made a plea, not an unreasonable one but one with which I may not entirely agree, that messages be posted in text only and not in HTML. I, for one, find that with HTML one can be more expressive and informative in conveying important information. I also believe that those who

Re: [newbie] Deluxe/complete v7.1 question....

2000-07-14 Thread A V Flinsch
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, you wrote: I'm just a little confused about the differences between the Deluxe and Complete versions of 7.1. Which is the better package to buy? I did check Mandrake's site, but still didn't glean much... There are a bunch of ebooks in the complete edition along with

Re: [newbie] refresh rate

2000-07-14 Thread faisal
Didnt you configure that during your installation ? - Original Message - From: "surianto chen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 7:44 PM Subject: [newbie] refresh rate hello all, i'm a new user in linux and currently using mandrake 7.0. i'd like

Re: [newbie] Text v. HTML messages on this list

2000-07-14 Thread Mike Tracy Holt
I agree with you about the HTML; I've found that some people can be agitated by the use of it. I think it is unreasonable to suggest that just because *some* people (for sentimental or whatever reasons) want to cling to archaic text only mail readers, that nobody should be able to use HTML.

Re: [newbie] Text v. HTML messages on this list

2000-07-14 Thread Phil Burton
Ascii text conveys information. If one needs expressiveness, then create a web page. There are many here who use plain text mail programs -- as I do, because I do not care to read my mail in Netscape nor KDE. It's not that I cannot read HTML mail, but the expressiveness is wasted on me.

[newbie] Search engines: Useful program not available to Linux users

2000-07-14 Thread John Glasscock
To all, One of the most useful programs on the net that I have found for searching the web, and subparts of it, is Sherlock. However, it is only on the Mac as an integral part of the MacOS. The next best thing is Copernic, found at http://www.copernic.com/ However, Copernic is not available

Re: [newbie] Text v. HTML messages on this list

2000-07-14 Thread Gary
On 14 Jul, John Glasscock wrote in part: A correspondent made a plea, not an unreasonable one but one with which I may not entirely agree, that messages be posted in text only and not in HTML. Personally I don't understand the reluctance to embrace HTML. However, I am prepared to be

Re: [newbie] CD RW compatibility

2000-07-14 Thread Dennis Myers
Alan Shoemaker wrote: RomanI bought it from their online store as a special of the month for $99 within the last 4 to 6 months. http://www.smartandfriendly.com/ Alan Romanator wrote: Hi Alan, Just caught the end of the thread. I am also looking for burner. We use a Smart

Re: [newbie] Text v. HTML messages on this list

2000-07-14 Thread Scott Tyson
For me I could care less about the extra weight, band width is cheap. The exception to this is when you have mailing lists with 20 quoted messages string together the HTML can make that message VERY Fat indeed. The issue with HTML is that it can contain nasty Javascript or VBscript that can be

Re: [newbie] Netscape/password

2000-07-14 Thread Fran Parker
On mine, it is the mail password NOT the ISP password. Bambi "Myers, Dennis R NWO" wrote: Good question, on my machine it is the ISP password, that's where Netscape goes to get mail. In thinking about it I would say that the password should be what is required to connect to the POP3 or

Re: [newbie] Text v. HTML messages on this list

2000-07-14 Thread Fireman71
Just my 2 cents but i prefer plain text. I normally handle around 200 emails a day on a server that limits me to 5meg of space. What this means is that when people start sending me 50 to 100k emails that contain 2 lines of actual text and the rest is html code and midi sounds i get angry because