DE devices and you can
hit del to get to bios) then the ram memory is good and should be
functional. I am not a technician so I am relying on their advice.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, February 20,
Ummm...what the heck was that?
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Romanator wrote:
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:05:38 -0500
From: Romanator [EMAIL PROTECTE
I think you have to hold down the shift key when you click Reload
-Original Message-
From: dison Andrs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 11:17 AM
To: Linux Novatos
Subject: [newbie] **offtopic** JavaScript
I made a web page that calls a JavaScript file.
My
(secondary)
Thanks
Mark Hillary
Registered Linux User 200755
.
-Original
Message- From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February
20, 2001 1:31 PM To: LinuxNewbie (E-mail) Subject: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM
I am suspicious that my RAM is bad. Is there
anyway in linux that I
Have you tried using the ./ way of staring programs?
example:
./myprog
-Original Message-
From: dison Andrs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:54 PM
To: Linux Novatos
Subject: [newbie] Execute Programs
Hello everybody.
I have a problem with my
I am suspicious that my RAM is bad. Is there anyway in linux that I can
confirm this?
Does anyone know where bash came from?
it cause you're sending plain text now.
Good job!
And, what are you writing your email client in?
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
on a 3Com-US Robotics 56K
internel that works great, but all I can think about now is getting DSL.
I'm not sorry I bought it cause what I was using was dying, but what I'm
going to have to pay for a cable modem is going to be a lot more then
this 3Com modem I'm using now.
--
Mark
"If you
Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Thursday 15 February 2001 08:06 pm, Mark Weaver wrote:
isn't there a way to filter HTML mail from the list?
We could issue 12 ga shotguns ?
--
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Now there's an idea...but why stop at shotguns
Just wondering, without spendning a fortune what would be the ideal platform
for running LM 7.2 (KDE/GNOME)?
I ask this because I'm running 7.2 on a K6-200/128MB and on a P400/256MB and
they are both sluggish. How much machine to I need to run a typical
installation of 7.2, I was planning on
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Johnson
Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2001 3:21 AM
To: LinuxNewbie (E-mail)
Subject: [newbie] What would be an ideal (but reasonable) LM7.2 desktop
platform
Just wondering, without spendning a fortune what would be the ideal platform
for running LM 7.2 (KDE/GNOME)?
I
it is worth updating to X 4.0.2, or at least I think so..
Mark Hillary
Registed Linux User 200755
Matt Schroeder wrote:
I installed the 3.3.6 (I believe) 3D accelerated X for Nvidia and it seems
that it is just as slow. Also there are glitches that I didn't have before
when I was using
I installed 7.2 on a K6 200 w/ 128MB and 10G 5400rpm drive. I was dubious
that linux could run on such a system, but it actually ran way better than
expected until now. Now having been used everyday for about a month things
are getting progressively slower. Whenever I'm running Konquerer it
to
boot. I switch back to the kernel that comes with Linux Mandrake 7.2
and it runs like the wind. Anyone got any ideas???
Probably cause you'er sending HTML mail to the list instead of sending
plain text.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
wort
isn't there a way to filter HTML mail from the list?
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
Richard Davies wrote:
Ok...you're removed!
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
Will the results be posted to the public? I'm curious as to where my
responses fall within the survey population.
-Original Message-
From: Denis HAVLIK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 5:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] MandrakeCampus
ying to do
an "upgrade" from 7.1 to 7.2. Too much has changed between the two
versions and even if you did manage to get the install done you'd likely
have a big mess to contend with. It's better that you do a fresh
install.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, th
from
the boot floppy after I was finished compiling. It just kept reading the
floppy and outputting to the screen. I don't even know what it was
saying...just random lines on the screen. Weirdest boot attempt I've
ever seen.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
w
information. Thanks Tom!
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
those drivers for my turtle beach sound
card I could compile in the support for that card when I'm ready.
Any ideas?
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
only done it once "with" X
running and as I remember I didn't have any troubles, but it just seemed
better to me "not" to have X running when I did the upgrade.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
se
clue me in here?
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
=117 S=0x00 I=63299 F=0x T=64
(#34)
Ian,
it looks to me like you don't have your printer setup correctly cause
all the info that is being sent to the printer is hitting your firewall
and getting sent to /dev/null.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up
no...you take out yourself.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Victor Parra wrote:
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 23:29:17 -0800
.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, -michael- wrote:
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:40:45 -0900
From: -michael- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
the same amount done. There's no doubt that BB
is faster than KDE, but KDE is much more functional even if I'm
sacrificing a little in speed.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
How big should my / and /usr partitions typically be?
/ (root partition) about 500MB
/usr 2.5 - 3GB is a good start.
I'd be more interested to know how to enlarge them once they get full.
that seems to be the tricky part.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is
this is a good plan too. but here again..what to do when things get too
cramped?
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Sevatio Octavio wrote:
Date: Fri, 09 F
Michael,
Last I heard Netscape used an internal Java machine to take care of all
that stuff. I don't know that you need java external to Netscape. When I
get a chance this evening I will load Beonex Communicator and see what
happens.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and i
out?
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, -michael- wrote:
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:40:45 -0900
From: -michael- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PR
I was playing around with the various window managers and finished off with
Gnome. When I decided I currently prefer KDE best I logged out and selected
KDE again from the login window but it kept coming back up with
Gnome/Sawfish. What did I do wrong here?
actually, it "used" to be that way. but no longer. there are many
differences between the two now-a-days. RPM is one of the biggest
differences that really sticks out.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"S
K D E !
There -- is -- no -- other.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Ribbo wrote:
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 01:39:58 +0700
should be able to connect to your machine using these
services. However, you would be much better served to avoid using telnet
all together and instead use ssh. it's much more secure, and just as easy
to install and use.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up
a FINE Netscape Communicator suite.
http://www.beonex.org
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Carlos Berardi wrote:
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:11:08
will be sorely appreciated,
Mark
me too Me too!!!
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 03:37:36 +1100
From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PR
Dude! read the bottom of the email. there are directions on how to do that
there; on the original message you got when you signed up; AND at the
mandrake site where you most likely signed up to get "on" the list.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, th
split up between us all what does that come to a person. That is assuming
that we don't want to keep them around for the sheer entertainment value.
I think Brian is about to bust a nut. He's sounding REAL anoyed.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being wort
good one Charles! :)
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Charles A Edwards wrote:
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:41:00 -0500
From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PR
O, and I don't remember hearing anyone shouting...except for you that is.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Brian Overby wrote:
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:3
I think there was a post a couple of days ago asking about the various
distro of linux. I stumbled on this and thought it might be interesting...
http://linux.cnet.com/linux/0-2136864-7-1473248.html?tag=st.lx.1518529.bpg.2
136864-7-1473248
On Mon, 05 Feb 2001, Traumax wrote:
Subject: [newbie] remove me
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How did so many idiots get signed up at once anyways
kill the partition and you kill the installation. to clean your MBR of the
bootloader at an A:\ prompt type "fdisk /mbr".
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Su
Oknow, where would one find info on how to "use" and operate Aurora?
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Romanator wrote:
Date: Sat, 03
why? is 7.2 broken? it's been my experience that upgrade-itis is hazerdous
to your computer's health.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Romanator wrote:
yes...including an operating system that works!
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Goldenpi wrote:
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:40:14 -
From: Golde
called Windows 3.1 (I had never heard of it) and innocently
installed MCC (with no problems) and played Astertoids and ran an LP mud on
it. I used kermit to dial-up (1200 baud) the school's VAX/VMS to read usenet
news... ah those were the days...
-Original Message-
From: Mark Weaver [mailto
Yeah, I bought my dell in 97 and I have been rather cruel to it and it has
kept on working. But my wife has a dell that is one year older. All sorts
of stuff is built on the MB. I've had nothing but problems with it trying
to keep it running and if she can't see it on the desktop my wife
I bought my board from www.microchipcomputers.com in Austin, TX for $103 +
tax
They have a web special on 128 PC133/100 memory for $49
-Original Message-
From: Barry Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 7:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE:
"Real Men use Vi."
* Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010112 17:17]:
Is there anyone using the Voodoo3 3500 TV card successfully on linux?
I checked the mandrake site for MB compatibility but couldn't find any
information. I was planning on getting an Asus ATX Super7 5/2 [P5A] does
anyone anticipate problems. I had a gigabyte board and linux refused to
install with the CDROM I got for it. It installed fine when I tried the
same
: Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] motherboard compatibility: asus
On Thursday 01 February 2001 08:15 am, Mark Johnson wrote:
I checked the mandrake site for MB compatibility but couldn't find
any information. I
I wish I could go...Say! any chance of one or all of you getting some
pictures and then posting them? I would love to see what it all looks
like. I can't get away because of work and school. :(
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
Riker,
Launch Mozilla from a terminal window and post the output to the list so's
we can get a gander at it.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Riker wr
Rob,
have you used XFdrake yet to setup your display? That is an awesome tool.
In console mode type "setuptool" as root user and you have a whole menu of
tools with which to do basic config of your Linux system. Xfdrake is just
one of the items on the menu.
--
Mark
"If you d
of my
head at the moment.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, jas wrote:
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 07:34:22 -0800
From: jas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:
Hey s...you got a firewall up and running cause Mozilla doesn't come with
the KDE upgrades?
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, s wrote:
Date: Tue, 30 Jan
Skye,
that's just a vicious rumor dripping with conjecture and wishful thinking.
:)
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Skye Louey wrote:
Date: Thu, 1 Feb
this.
Shutting down PMFirewall: Done!
Starting PMFirewall:Done!
External: ppp0 216.37.160.90/255.255.255.255
Check things out and let is know what you come up with.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being wort
this at the LILO prompt.
linux 3
Log in as root user and run setuptool. Type "setuptool" on the command
line. Choose drakeboot from the menu and that will allow you to configure
LILO as your bootloader.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up
That what theme manager does. It installs the themes. All you have to do
is download them and store them somewhere on your HDD.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Tue, 30
s,
I'm using a Canon BJC 6000 and the filter that works for this one is
"Canon BJC 600 and Canon BJC 4000"
The res is set at 360x360, the color settings are set to black and white.
Mostly for speed reasons, however color does work for this filter.
--
Mark
"If you don't shar
Roman,
Thats all I use are the themes for the older versions. I.e. all the themes
for KDE before 2.0. Mostly I've been using themes for 1.1.2.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful.&qu
not to worry. Abiword crashes on everyone. Mostly cause it's still in beta
and there are HUGE bugs in it yet. It's a nice looking app, but its not
quite there yet. They're working on it though.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
ya ever notice how things are easier to "uninstall" in Linux as opposed
to "other" places?
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Romanat
really all there is to setting up print services using Lpr and
Linuxconf. Quick...cool...and clean! And the friggin thing works with my
Canon!!!
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
Well darn it I wish they would-a done something like this for Canon
printers. How's come they're always the odd man out? it ain't fair!
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Su
You need those two packages to satisfy the dependencies. Once you add them
into the lineup the install goes off without a hitch.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Sun, 28
Chris,
I don't remember ever needing that package. At least it never asked for
it. What is it and what does it do? should I install it even though I've
upgraded without it?
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is
au come-on Vic...give the guy a break.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Vic wrote:
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:22:31 -0600
From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-
Roman,
To tell you the truth the older KDE themes work TONS better then the
themes put together for KDE2.0 and above. In fact, that's all I've been
using are the themes for previous versions of KDE. These work great!
enjoy...
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they e
Roman,
You will have to "add" that theme to the lineup in theme manager for root
to use this theme. The themes don't load globally.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Sat
Vic,
Have you done any of the KDE updates from the batch that Chris has posted
to the list about? Since coming from KDE2.0 to KDE2.1beta2 I've noticed
Konqueror's stability increasing. That might be a help if you haven't
installed the upgrades yet.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your con
Glad I could help Roman. After this week I'm hoping that my system has
decideded it's had enough of all the excitement and behaves itself for a
while.
I've been using KDE 1.1.2 themes pretty much exclusively. For what ever
reason the themes for KDE 2.x don't work at all.
--
Mark
"If you
Vic,
I can fully appreciate your position.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Vic wrote:
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:01:58 -0600
From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTE
have fun and enjoy,
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Vic wrote:
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:06:16 -0600
From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
I've tried this and I get:
#date -s world.std.com
date: invalid date 'world.std.com'
Is this an enhancement made to Mandrake 7.2?? I have 7.1 on my machine. Is
that the problem?
Thanks in advance,
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Meph Istopheles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday
I'm trying to load a SCSI card module, with the following
command:
modprobe g_NCR5380.o dtc_3181e=1 ncr_addr=0x240 ncr_irq=4
It tells me It cannot find the module, even though the
module is there in the /lib/modules/2.2.15 blah blah
directory. I can't run it from that directory either.
Actually, I do have another idea. Try the command the other way.
taper -T st0
I think you'll find that it works. I too have a SCSI tape device and that
is the command that I use to start the program and tell it where and what
it is.
Mark
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Dan Shanahan wrote:
Date
system. When they access
their accounts to collect their email they would reference the
host.domain.com exactly as you've defined it as previously explained
above.
Thats a brief, maybe over simplified explanation, but that's the nuts and
bolts of it.
Good luck and have fun...
Mark
On Sun, 21 Jan 200
All of the above and anything else that folks can think of to do with
Linux. For me there is no other OS worth my time or energy.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
David,
In many ways Linux is nothing like what you're used to. And much more like
the mainframes you've programmed for all these years.
What protocols are you using to get the boxes to talk to the Linux box.
I'm assuming that you're using the Linux box as a file server, right?
--
Mark
Oliver,
Hey man! that's great!! way to hang in there. Feels good, doesn't it?
Now...where'd I put that ballpeen hammer?...
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
Yes... all that and I can have icing too!
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
Linus Torvalds
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Romanator wrote:
Ahh.. Yes and no D
Hmmm...that's just a vicious rumor. It's not true.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
Linus Torvalds
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Thio Yu Jin wrote:
Why is E
he Europeans is from that of the Americans. Being an
American myself the difference between the European and American world
views is sometimes startlingly great.
Just my two cents...
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"
nstall.
O yeah...and by the way. God Bless Ireland!
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
Linus Torvalds
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Jay wrote:
I just tri
Vic,
Why not just point everything back to the /home dir instead of getting
used to things being in /var? Change the config files of the ftp, httpd
servers to point to the /home dir. That's where mine are pointing to. That
or you could make sym-links to point back to those directories.
--
Mark
Dan,
try using Taper.
as root use this command.
taper -T st0
thats the program I use for my tape drive and it works fine.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what make
On Thursday 18 January 2001 06:09 am, you wrote:
How do you do a Google search?
http://www.google.com
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
Linus Torvalds
-Original Message-
From: Adrian Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
a honda accord has a purpose. a freightliner tractor/trailer rig has a
purpose.
they are not the same
I should mention that when I followed Chris' directions
several times, you cannot boot anymore. I finally traced it
to running graphical login (xdm) although I was able to get
the upgrade to work if I used a shell login, and copied
my old /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc from 3.3.6 back onto the new
Can anyone suggest a good place to informally find folks interested in being
hired for development positions? A place for sponsors/recuiters to
informally discuss potential projects? Like a certain newsgroup or
something?
-Original Message-
From: Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
Heavens! don't do that. ToJams don't wash down too easily. And I happen to
agree with what you said. All things have a purpose and I, like you, don't
want Linux to be anymore like windows then the next guy.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being wort
that's what I was talking about. thanks Tom.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
Linus Torvalds
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote:
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