Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-16 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 16 September 2004 12:02 am, Dennis Myers wrote: Hey,hey,hey, I have one of those PB's sitting in the corner and it is not mickey mouse. It's .bita bang.. Tinkerbell hardware. The case is tough though.: ) Bet my Atari Falcons (circa 1992) rack mount case is tougher! (18

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-16 Thread David E. Fox
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:11:37 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is a Barbie-doll PC more childish than a Windows PC ? Not if it runs linux. :) -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 00:45, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 18:40, David E. Fox wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:26:47 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Win4Linux runs Win98 only, not XP. Crossover doesn't list other applications then the most common, such

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-15 Thread Anthony Cull
. - Original Message - From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP On Wednesday 15 September 2004 00:45, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 18:40, David E. Fox wrote

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 13:12, Anthony Cull wrote: Good to hear... CDs ... costers.. may I suggest that you buy a usb flash it will be cheeper for you in the long run. This topic has lasted a while.. Quote Although only 14 years old, my daughter isn't exactly stupid At least she can use

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-15 Thread David E. Fox
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:09:19 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your suggestions, David. Alas... as Lyvim pointed out, she _has_ to use Derive in order to cooperate with her classmates. Oh well :(. And you know what ? - Although only 14 years old, my daughter isn't

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-15 Thread David E. Fox
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:29:59 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And thanks for the roses for my daughter. Actually she grew up with Linux, and when she got her brand new WindowsXP computer, her first remark was : good heavens, what a childish system ! (In fact, her Just don't get

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 19:26, David E. Fox wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:29:59 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And thanks for the roses for my daughter. Actually she grew up with Linux, and when she got her brand new WindowsXP computer, her first remark was : good

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 14:11, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 15 September 2004 19:26, David E. Fox wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:29:59 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And thanks for the roses for my daughter. Actually she grew up with Linux, and when she got her brand new

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-15 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 04:24 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 14:11, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 15 September 2004 19:26, David E. Fox wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:29:59 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And thanks for the roses for my daughter.

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 19:00, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Never mind Barbie. Check this out: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=314966pfp=BROWSE After all, shouldn't a Mickey Mouse operating system be run on a genuine Mickey Mouse computer? -- cmg Wow...I thought

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-15 Thread Dennis Myers
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 08:12 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 19:00, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Never mind Barbie. Check this out: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=314966pfp= BROWSE After all, shouldn't a Mickey Mouse operating system be run on a

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-14 Thread David E. Fox
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:26:47 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Win4Linux runs Win98 only, not XP. Crossover doesn't list other applications then the most common, such as Office. Derive is a very special beast. It might still. I don't think it's going to require a lot of extras,

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-14 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 18:40, David E. Fox wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:26:47 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Win4Linux runs Win98 only, not XP. Crossover doesn't list other applications then the most common, such as Office. Derive is a very special beast. It might

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-05 Thread Vincent Voois
Carroll Grigsby wrote: I thought they where a good serve as a cup-placemat. snip Using Win CDs for target practice is not good destroys the environment (the M$ crap not the target practice) ;-) What's wrong with the traditional practice of popping old CDs in the microwave? -- cmg I don't

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-05 Thread Vincent Voois
Hoyt Bailey wrote: Now, a launcher that would fire old CD's at 1000 FPS and 300 rounds per minute would be a *gas*. If CD's have any metal in them, couldn't you even build like a CD railgun? Heh. Look out Bill, yer about to feel the pain you've inflicted on others oh these many years...

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-04 Thread Terence Golightly
On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 16:28, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 03 September 2004 20:54, Vincent Voois wrote: I thought they where a good serve as a cup-placemat. J or M Montgomery wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:04:39 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: am. Fifthly, some years

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-04 Thread Aron
On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 07:00, Terence Golightly wrote: On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 16:28, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 03 September 2004 20:54, Vincent Voois wrote: I thought they where a good serve as a cup-placemat. J or M Montgomery wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:04:39 +0200

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-04 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 04 September 2004 19:14, Aron wrote: Windows-CDs absorb coffee, Coke and beer almost as bad as wisdom. On the other hand, if you've never seen one of those CDs take a hit from a 7,62 mm rifle at 300 meters, try it. It is spectacular and gives you a warm, inner joy.

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-04 Thread aron Smith
On Saturday 04 September 2004 11:33 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Saturday 04 September 2004 19:14, Aron wrote: Windows-CDs absorb coffee, Coke and beer almost as bad as wisdom. On the other hand, if you've never seen one of those CDs take a hit from a 7,62 mm rifle at 300 meters, try

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-04 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 04 September 2004 02:45 pm, aron Smith wrote: On Saturday 04 September 2004 11:33 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Saturday 04 September 2004 19:14, Aron wrote: snip We just finished a 3 month shutdown of our range You wouldnot believe the amount of lead we recovered especially from the

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-04 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 04 September 2004 01:14 pm, Aron wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 07:00, Terence Golightly wrote: On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 16:28, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 03 September 2004 20:54, Vincent Voois wrote: I thought they where a good serve as a cup-placemat. snip Using Win CDs

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-04 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 04 September 2004 07:07 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Saturday 04 September 2004 01:14 pm, Aron wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 07:00, Terence Golightly wrote: On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 16:28, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 03 September 2004 20:54, Vincent Voois wrote: I thought

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-04 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 20:07:00 -0400 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: I thought they where a good serve as a cup-placemat. snip Using Win CDs for target practice is not good destroys the environment (the M$ crap not the target practice) ;-) What's wrong with the

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-04 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 20:30, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 20:07:00 -0400 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: I thought they where a good serve as a cup-placemat. snip Using Win CDs for target practice is not good destroys the environment (the M$ crap not the

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-04 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 04 September 2004 07:30 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 20:07:00 -0400 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: I thought they where a good serve as a cup-placemat. snip Using Win CDs for target practice is not good destroys the environment (the M$ crap

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-03 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 03 September 2004 20:54, Vincent Voois wrote: I thought they where a good serve as a cup-placemat. J or M Montgomery wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:04:39 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: am. Fifthly, some years ago she used some Windows-installation CDs for rifle

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-03 Thread Vincent Voois
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 03 September 2004 20:54, Vincent Voois wrote: I thought they where a good serve as a cup-placemat. Windows-CDs absorb coffee, Coke and beer almost as bad as wisdom. On the other hand, if you've never seen one of those CDs take a hit from a 7,62 mm rifle at 300

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-09-01 Thread Vincent Voois
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 17:13, Vincent Voois wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: That just proves that their people are smarter than ours. No not specifically, if you don't have any money to spend on software, you use free software. In a way smarter:it's smarter than downloading illegal

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-31 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 00:04, Vincent Voois wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: any different. This is also true of UNIX and other OS's such as IBM can you imagine IBM loseing business to linux. IBM always had a good arrogant head up, this is why they had to fire over 40.000 people back 1 and a

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-31 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:32:26 -0400 Lyvim Xaphir disseminated the following: No not specifically, if you don't have any money to spend on software, you use free software. In a way smarter:it's smarter than downloading illegal versions of Microsoft ware. But Asians and Africans still have

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-31 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 07:24:34PM -0400, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:32:26 -0400 Lyvim Xaphir disseminated the following: No not specifically, if you don't have any money to spend on software, you use free software. In a way smarter:it's smarter than downloading illegal

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-31 Thread et
On Friday 27 August 2004 13:52, Stephen Kühn wrote: Kmail unstable? Outlook and Outlook Express are unstable; Kmail is just, er, quirky. that would be... 'random enhancements' -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-30 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:37:03 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: Imagine there's no Microsoft, it isn't hard to do; no DRM or viruses, and no closed source software too... I'm sure that you dont understand the extent of closed source software. ...oh, Hoyt, LIGHTEN UP. Anyhow, I

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-30 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Monday 30 August 2004 20:49, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:18:21 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: A non-free program is a predatory social system that keeps people in a state of domination and division, and uses the spoils to dominate more. It may seem like a

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-30 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:28:22 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html I offer the gaming industry, there are now servers and other programs that allow games to run under linux, but you still have to buy the game. I cant expect that an

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-30 Thread Vincent Voois
JoeHill wrote: But even more, as the man hisself said: A non-free program is a predatory social system that keeps people in a state of domination and division, and uses the spoils to dominate more. It may seem like a profitable option to become one of the emperor's lieutenants, but ultimately the

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-30 Thread Vincent Voois
Hoyt Bailey wrote: any different. This is also true of UNIX and other OS's such as IBM can you imagine IBM loseing business to linux. IBM always had a good arrogant head up, this is why they had to fire over 40.000 people back 1 and a half decade ago. They have the potential to do it again on

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-29 Thread Poogle
On Saturday 28 Aug 2004 13:26, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 12:50, Hoyt Bailey wrote: snip That is one good reason there are others. Have you considered Win4linux or Crossover Office? /snip Win4Linux runs Win98 only, not XP. Crossover doesn't list other applications

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-29 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Sunday 29 August 2004 11:13, Poogle wrote: snip Out of curiosity some time ago I looked at Derive. I got version 5 running using Crossover Office. I don't recall how well it ran as having got it to run my curiosity moved on to other things. You can d/l a trial version of Crossover Office

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-29 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Sunday 29 August 2004 06:30, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Sunday 29 August 2004 11:13, Poogle wrote: snip Out of curiosity some time ago I looked at Derive. I got version 5 running using Crossover Office. I don't recall how well it ran as having got it to run my curiosity moved on to

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-29 Thread Vincent Voois
John Richard Smith wrote: Heck, Things have sunk low. HP doesn't even give you their own backup disks as an emergency recovery any more. I mean, not unnaturally the average user , ain't gonna think of creating their own image backups, the moment they first plug the PC in and boot up. So

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-29 Thread Vincent Voois
Hoyt Bailey wrote: Would you consider it paranoid to run if a 6'6 250lb person told you that he was going to knock you out of the park and he was holding a baseball bat? HEhehehehehehe. U just pull his cap across his face, kick his nutts on the floor and break his baseballbat on his own

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 27 August 2004 12:52, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 03:31, Vincent Voois wrote: charlie wrote: snip It just got upset of Hoyt's remark about Kmail being too unstable. Kmail unstable? Outlook and Outlook Express are unstable; Kmail is just, er, quirky. I dont recall

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 27 August 2004 13:38, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 27 August 2004 19:22, Vincent Voois wrote: snip Until I receive a new set of installation CDs from HP, her Windows XP stays disconnected. With the new installation disks at hand, I will install XP, Then Open Office, Mozilla, 5

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-28 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 28 August 2004 12:50, Hoyt Bailey wrote: snip That is one good reason there are others. Have you considered Win4linux or Crossover Office? /snip Win4Linux runs Win98 only, not XP. Crossover doesn't list other applications then the most common, such as Office. Derive is a very

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-28 Thread PM
On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 15:26, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Win4Linux runs Win98 only, not XP. Crossover doesn't list other applications then the most common, such as Office. Derive is a very special beast. Never mind Hoyt, Lyvim, John and all you nice people. My daughters Windows box stays off

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-28 Thread John Richard Smith
Kaj Haulrich wrote: replies within On Saturday 28 August 2004 12:21, John Richard Smith wrote: John, the HP box came with no CDs at all. Instead, the is an icon on the desktop, labelled create HP restore disks or some such. Being only human, I was curious and connected to the net first in

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-27 Thread John Richard Smith
charlie wrote: Something strange happened to me this morning as I was downloading mail into Kmail. I deleted one of Lanman's mails and the Kmail desktop locked up solid, my CPU usage went into the 100% and stayed there. But nothing was happening in Kmail that I could see. So went into a

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-27 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 26 August 2004 11:13, John Richard Smith wrote: charlie wrote: Something strange happened to me this morning as I was downloading mail into Kmail. I deleted one of Lanman's mails and the Kmail desktop locked up solid, my CPU usage went into the 100% and stayed there. But

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-27 Thread John Richard Smith
Kaj Haulrich wrote: Is Kmail going flaky or are Lanman's mail becoming sacred or precious? Charlie. Happened to me in Mozilla . Don't remember whose mail it was, but on this list. I was deleting one message, and it was loading the next, when it locked up tight. John Happens to me quite

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-27 Thread Vincent Voois
charlie wrote: I took a look at mozilla mail but didnt like it I'll check out Thunderbird I must admit kmail is too unstable, on my system, to serve well. I would prefer to address the instability but dont have a clue it may be somewhere else. Something strange happened to me this morning as I

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-27 Thread Vincent Voois
Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Thursday 26 August 2004 07:51, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 05:07:02 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: Just suppose that Windows was gone completely. The internet would speed up little virus activity would occur. Sure the usage would go down for a while but

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-27 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 03:31, Vincent Voois wrote: charlie wrote: I took a look at mozilla mail but didnt like it I'll check out Thunderbird I must admit kmail is too unstable, on my system, to serve well. I would prefer to address the instability but dont have a clue it may be somewhere

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-27 Thread Vincent Voois
Kaj Haulrich wrote: Why would you hook up her machine directly to the net when can arrange your Linux box to do all the NAT and firewalling stuff? All required are two ethernet cards and a crosscable (or a hub/switch and two utp cables). It's not an expensive configuration anymore nowadays.

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-27 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 27 August 2004 19:22, Vincent Voois wrote: snip The application she requires under windows, does it work in Wine? If it does, why bother keeping her box up with windows? /snip The application in question is Derive from Texas Instruments. Her math teacher insists on it and all her

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-27 Thread Vincent Voois
Kaj Haulrich wrote: Until I receive a new set of installation CDs from HP, her Windows XP stays disconnected. With the new installation disks at hand, I will install XP, Then Open Office, Mozilla, 5 antivirus, 3 trojan/worm/spyware/ad-ware killers and 2 firewalsl (all downloaded and burned

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread Vincent Voois
Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Wednesday 25 August 2004 16:08, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 25 August 2004 18:55, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: snip Either I am the dumbest person who ever powered up a PC - or Microsoft should be expelled from the Internet until they come up with a real operating system. Thank

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread Vincent Voois
Kaj Haulrich wrote: My daughters PC and I have agreed on an armstice : It will remain disconnected from all and everything until I receive new CD's from HP. Then - maybe - I will try again, now armed with all your advice and one CD full of antispyware/antivirus/antiworm/firewall weapons

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 17:53, Lanman wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Wednesday 25 August 2004 16:08, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 25 August 2004 18:55, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: snip Either I am the dumbest person who ever powered up a PC - or Microsoft should be expelled from the

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Thursday 26 August 2004 01:00, Vincent Voois wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Wednesday 25 August 2004 16:08, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 25 August 2004 18:55, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: snip Either I am the dumbest person who ever powered up a PC - or Microsoft should be expelled from

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread Lanman
Hoyt Bailey wrote: Now that you mention it spellcheck only works randomly. That is now its working in 5 or 10 seconds it will quit, or not, and it may start again within one reply. With my spelling ability it needs to work all the time and it would be nice if it made suggestions like google

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 26 August 2004 08:11, Vincent Voois wrote: Kaj Haulrich wrote: My daughters PC and I have agreed on an armstice : It will remain disconnected from all and everything until I receive new CD's from HP. Then - maybe - I will try again, now armed with all your advice and one CD

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 05:07:02 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: Just suppose that Windows was gone completely. The internet would speed up little virus activity would occur. Sure the usage would go down for a while but everyone would be happier. Hey! Something Hoyt and I are in

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Thursday 26 August 2004 07:51, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 05:07:02 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: Just suppose that Windows was gone completely. The internet would speed up little virus activity would occur. Sure the usage would go down for a while but everyone

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread frankieh
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Thursday 26 August 2004 08:11, Vincent Voois wrote: Kaj Haulrich wrote: My daughters PC and I have agreed on an armstice : It will remain disconnected from all and everything until I receive new CD's from HP. Then - maybe - I will try again, now armed with all your advice

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread charlie
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Thursday 26 August 2004 06:23, Lanman wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: Now that you mention it spellcheck only works randomly. That is now its working in 5 or 10 seconds it will quit, or not, and it may start again within one reply. With

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Thursday 26 August 2004 16:35, charlie wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Thursday 26 August 2004 06:23, Lanman wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: snip Something strange happened to me this morning as I was downloading mail into Kmail. I deleted one of Lanman's mails and

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread Lanman
Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Thursday 26 August 2004 16:35, charlie wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Thursday 26 August 2004 06:23, Lanman wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: snip Something strange happened to me this morning as I was downloading mail into Kmail. I deleted one of Lanman's

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 17:35, charlie wrote: Something strange happened to me this morning as I was downloading mail into Kmail. I deleted one of Lanman's mails and the Kmail desktop locked up solid, my CPU usage went into the 100% and stayed there. But nothing was happening in Kmail that I

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-26 Thread charlie
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:58 am, Lanman wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Thursday 26 August 2004 16:35, charlie wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Thursday 26 August 2004 06:23, Lanman wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: snip Something strange happened to me this morning as I

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 00:12, Wally Brown wrote: The best way to fix all of this is to format your drive, install Linux and install wine. I am really surprise to find how many schools have gone the Windows route when there are so many free Linux distributions available and many of the

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Dale Kosan
Service pack 2 is garbage, I have seen numerous issues after installing it on clients machines. Wireless networks stop working, machines that just keep shutting down and restarting. Here are some solutions for you: Adaware, Spybot, cws shredder and hijack this for spyware and such. Clamwin for

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread John Richard Smith
Kaj Haulrich wrote: Dear list... I am sorry for bothering you with this, but knowing that some of you have Windows on your box, I rely on your forgiveness : A week ago I had to buy a new PC for one of my daughters (14 years old). She absolutely needed Windows in order to run some special,

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
--- Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dale... Right now I've re-installed this XP crap on her box. I did it with the ethernet cable unplugged. that seemed to cause some issues, but we'll see. I have downloaded most of all those AV/firewall/spykillers from my linux box and

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 11:49, Dale Kosan wrote: Service pack 2 is garbage, I have seen numerous issues after installing it on clients machines. Wireless networks stop working, machines that just keep shutting down and restarting. Here are some solutions for you: Adaware, Spybot, cws

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
--- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you purchased this box with XP on it and they didn't give you XP installation discs then they usually supply backup file somewhere on the HD in a spare partition.If so it might well be worthwhile reinstalling from that. they are usually

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 05:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Lyvim Xaphir disseminated the following: Good heavens : and Windows should be user-friendly ??? - Wonder how my old aunt and Joe Sixpack use this OS. Thanks again Kaj Haulrich. Kaj, isn't it amazing how much easier it is to install MDK

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
--- JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 05:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Lyvim Xaphir disseminated the following: Good heavens : and Windows should be user-friendly ??? - Wonder how my old aunt and Joe Sixpack use this OS. Thanks again Kaj Haulrich. Kaj,

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 14:38, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: --- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you purchased this box with XP on it and they didn't give you XP installation discs then they usually supply backup file somewhere on the HD in a spare partition.If so it might well

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
--- Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Lyvim and John... maybe I screwed things up again : When doing the re-install, I used the built-in function from HP to create the restore CDs. Could that mean I transferred all the Trojans, Worms, Viruses and Spyware to the restore disks ?

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Lanman
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 25 August 2004 14:38, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: --- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you purchased this box with XP on it and they didn't give you XP installation discs then they usually supply backup file somewhere on the HD in a spare partition.If so it

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread John Richard Smith
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 25 August 2004 14:38, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: --- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you purchased this box with XP on it and they didn't give you XP installation discs then they usually supply backup file somewhere on the HD in a spare partition.If

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Vincent Voois
Kaj Haulrich wrote: Well Lyvim and John... maybe I screwed things up again : When doing the re-install, I used the built-in function from HP to create the restore CDs. Could that mean I transferred all the Trojans, Worms, Viruses and Spyware to the restore disks ? If you created restore cd's

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Vincent Voois
John Richard Smith wrote: My daughter feels sorry for me : for my birthday present I wanted a new toilet bag, so she gave me one. You can admire it here : http://haulrich.net/Family/toiletbag.jpg A really fetching little number would go well in any art gallery ! Title : Kaj's bagged her in blue

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 19:22, Lanman wrote: replies within It sounds like your system is having more problems than it should. Did I understand you correctly in assuming that your WindowsXP image is stored somewhere on the hard drive? Some PC companies put the image or cab files for

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 18:55, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: If on the other hand you are seeing worms after a clean and a reboot then something is badly wrong. This is all assuming that you have reinstalled. ? So did you reinstall from the restore cd's or are you still working with the original

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 16:08, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 25 August 2004 18:55, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: snip Either I am the dumbest person who ever powered up a PC - or Microsoft should be expelled from the Internet until they come up with a real operating system. Thank you all. Kaj

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 26 August 2004 00:50, Lanman wrote: snip I don't think anyone here would mind if the occasional Microsoft question popped up now and then, if only to show how smart we all are! /snip Actually, no one flamed me for this thread. It is a GREAT list. snip Take heart Kaj! In a few

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread Vincent Voois
Kaj Haulrich wrote: medium threats, among them SAHAgent. That last beast was reported by ALL scanners to be removed, but showed up every time I re-scanned. How about turning of system-restore service? There are few virusscanners capable of removing viruses from the System Volume Information

[newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-24 Thread Kaj Haulrich
Dear list... I am sorry for bothering you with this, but knowing that some of you have Windows on your box, I rely on your forgiveness : A week ago I had to buy a new PC for one of my daughters (14 years old). She absolutely needed Windows in order to run some special, school-related apps.

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-24 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Tuesday 24 August 2004 09:33 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Dear list... I am sorry for bothering you with this, but knowing that some of you have Windows on your box, I rely on your forgiveness : A week ago I had to buy a new PC for one of my daughters (14 years old). She absolutely needed

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-24 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 24 August 2004 10:33 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: 1. A good, reliable firewall for Windows (preferably OSS and free) ? Zonealarm is free for personal use and is supposed to be as good as personal firewall solutions go. Keep in mind that trojans, worms and the like often shut those off

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-24 Thread frankieh
Kaj Haulrich wrote: Dear list... I am sorry for bothering you with this, but knowing that some of you have Windows on your box, I rely on your forgiveness : A week ago I had to buy a new PC for one of my daughters (14 years old). She absolutely needed Windows in order to run some special,

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-24 Thread frankieh
Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Tuesday 24 August 2004 09:33 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Dear list... I am sorry for bothering you with this, but knowing that some of you have Windows on your box, I rely on your forgiveness : A week ago I had to buy a new PC for one of my daughters (14 years old). She

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-24 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
--- frankieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: downloading the database that was when I got all kinds of infection once the database was installed it was AOK. They do have on their website removers for most infections, IIRC you have to be a paid up member to get them ($15

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-24 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 11:13:05PM +0800, frankieh wrote: Kaj Haulrich wrote: Dear list... ... Suddenly, when she tries to send an e-mail (from within Mozilla, of course, I'm not THAT stupid), up pops a message from our ISP saying that the box is compromized, accordingly the smtp-server

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-24 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
--- Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list... I am sorry for bothering you with this, but knowing that some of you have Windows on your box, I rely on your forgiveness : A week ago I had to buy a new PC for one of my daughters (14 years old). She absolutely needed Windows in

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-24 Thread Lanman
Kaj Haulrich wrote: Dear list... I am sorry for bothering you with this, but knowing that some of you have Windows on your box, I rely on your forgiveness : A week ago I had to buy a new PC for one of my daughters (14 years old). She absolutely needed Windows in order to run some special,

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-24 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Tuesday 24 August 2004 10:16 am, frankieh wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Tuesday 24 August 2004 09:33 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Dear list... I am sorry for bothering you with this, but knowing that some of you have Windows on your box, I rely on your forgiveness : A week ago I had to

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