On Friday 14 Feb 2003 12:51 am, et wrote:
well really I think it was Anne that made the statement in question; OK -
if we don't agree, we don't exist if you made that statement, perhaps you
would like to explain it.
I don't agree with Rush Limbaugh, but I am pretty sure we both exist.
Et - I
On Friday 14 February 2003 04:25 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 14 Feb 2003 12:51 am, et wrote:
well really I think it was Anne that made the statement in question; OK
- if we don't agree, we don't exist if you made that statement, perhaps
you would like to explain it.
I don't agree
On Friday 14 Feb 2003 11:14 am, et wrote:
On Friday 14 February 2003 04:25 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 14 Feb 2003 12:51 am, et wrote:
well really I think it was Anne that made the statement in question;
OK - if we don't agree, we don't exist if you made that statement,
perhaps
What exactly did you mean by that, ed? ;)
LX
__
if we don't agree we don't exist? that statement is so far
in left field,
unless it has something to do with part of this thread that
was clipped, I
I understood that, I just thought that my reply had caught the
eye of others
who were also a bit hot under the collar, so to speak, and they
were hoping
for something else to take out of context, I saw your apology and
explaination, and I hope everyone that had so much energy over a
GUI,
Gerrofff! That's my line. 'Linux is about choice' g
Talking about lines...
My line is no one likes whiners
Rob
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
On Friday 14 February 2003 12:47 pm, et wrote:
On Friday 14 February 2003 09:57 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
Gerrofff! That's my line. 'Linux is about choice' g
Talking about lines...
My line is no one likes whiners
Rob
Ok,, if we are gonna all add their lines mine is
OK So I AM an
On Friday 14 February 2003 08:51 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
You have seen mine I think:
Life is good, just don't weaken
I have two.
The first is You people are exhausting!
and the other is I've gotta go!
--
Greg
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to
On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 10:49 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
Tho many were vocal (as you are) about the changes, the logic and
reasons for it as given by the Mdk. developers were compelling if not
convincing, and much progress has been made with the new versions
since.
I have not seen one
On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 7:59 am, Vahur Lokk wrote:
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 22:32, you wrote:
(An example of a neglected new feature is the Samba setup wizard - To set
up a basic Samba server, all you have to do is press the Samba wizard
button in Mandrake Control Centre.
I have not seen one posting to Newbie OR Expert stating they like the
separate programs for RPM installation. Its a hassle
switching between the
different progs.
OK - if we don't agree, we don't exist.
Not understanding what you meant by this.
Rob
Want to buy your Pack or Services
(An example of a neglected new feature is the Samba setup
wizard - To set
up a basic Samba server, all you have to do is press the Samba wizard
button in Mandrake Control Centre.
Is there such a samba wizard? I dont have it installed, using NFS which i
am not liking.
Rob
Want to buy
On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:43 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
I have not seen one posting to Newbie OR Expert stating they like the
separate programs for RPM installation. Its a hassle
switching between the
different progs.
OK - if we don't agree, we don't exist.
Not
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On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:43 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
I have not seen one posting to Newbie OR Expert stating they like the
separate programs for RPM installation. Its a hassle
switching between the
different progs.
OK - if
On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:43 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
I have not seen one posting to Newbie OR Expert stating
they like the
separate programs for RPM installation. Its a hassle
switching between the
different progs.
OK - if we don't agree, we don't exist.
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 20:15, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
On Wed 2003-02-12 at 17:54:48 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 16:52, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
[...]
I wonder how often you change your sources, if you need to keep it
open...
The point is that version 1.4
Boy you are some kind of arrogant, arent you? Why in the hell are you
trying to tell *me* what MY point is? I know full well what I was
saying, and I know you don't give a rat's damn about it. So don't try to
restate *my* point; you keep your restatements of anything restricted to
what you
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 10:52, et wrote:
On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:43 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
I have not seen one posting to Newbie OR Expert stating they like the
separate programs for RPM installation. Its a hassle
switching between the
different progs.
OK - if
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 20:22, Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Wednesday February 12 2003 03:17 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
I used to could start rpmdrake 1.4 from an Eterm and then as I
conducted actions in the UI, it would report back to Eterm exactly
what it was doing, connecting to, unpacking,
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 20:32, Greg Meyer wrote:
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:17 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Behind the scenes the engine(s) may be new and improved,
That is why it was changed
but the interface just isn't getting it.
That is your opinion, not a fact.
Glad to see
On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 3:52 pm, et wrote:
On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:43 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
I have not seen one posting to Newbie OR Expert stating they like
the separate programs for RPM installation. Its a hassle
switching between the
different progs.
OK
On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 4:00 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
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I have not seen one posting to Newbie OR Expert stating they like
the separate programs for RPM installation. Its a hassle
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 12:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
my interpatation of statements like this is either it is no so freaking far
out of context no one can possibly figure it out, or the author
really should go ahead and start back with the caffeine in their
coffee, or less working on
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:17 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 14:51, Tom Brinkman wrote:
Now Lyvim, I believe you read the cooker list and should know this
was all hammered out, fuss'd about, reasons given, and concessions
made months ago on the cooker list. If I'm
On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 5:47 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 12:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
my interpatation of statements like this is either it is no so freaking
far out of context no one can possibly figure it out, or the author
really should go ahead and start back
On Thursday 13 February 2003 08:08 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
Dude, go take some morphine (or your favorite illegal drug) and space out
for a while.
Rob
True..he's way out of line with that comment and that finally convinced me not
to vote for the old rpmdrake in list of rpm's we want to
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:54 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Well, I've done searches within the newbie and expert lists for
rpmdrake and I see almost no vocality on a positive note for rpmdrake
2.1. This isn't from memory, this is from a hard search for rpmdrake
thru all emails I have. My
On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 8:00 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
This has gone on so long that I have forgotten the beginning.
What are the 4
functions? Under 9.0, add software is among my most-used,
remove software
comes a good way behind that. What are the other two?
Sources Manager and
I agree about the Mandrake Choices default, it's really
annoying. I would
prefer that it remembered your last use, as for most of us it would
automaticlly come up with the right choice 95% of times.
I totally agree. Same with asking for a password going into it since i
always do it from my
On 12 Feb 2003, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Well, I've done searches within the newbie and expert lists for
rpmdrake and I see almost no vocality on a positive note for rpmdrake
2.1. This isn't from memory, this is from a hard search for rpmdrake
thru all emails I have. My lists here date back to
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:11:23 +
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have wondered sometimes, though, whether it is always clear where
you are going to get the update from.
Using rpmdrake right click in the info pane and select maximum
information
The info will now include the source
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 14:55, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Thursday 13 February 2003 02:49 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
This has gone on so long that I have forgotten the beginning. What are the
4 functions? Under 9.0, add software is among my most-used, remove
software comes a good way behind
On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 9:03 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:11:23 +
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have wondered sometimes, though, whether it is always clear where
you are going to get the update from.
Using rpmdrake right click in the info pane and
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On Thursday 13 February 2003 04:23 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
1) RpmDrake helps you install software packages
2) Mandrake Update helps you apply any fixes or upgrades to installed
packages
3) Rpmdrake helps you remove software packages
4)
Using rpmdrake right click in the info pane and select maximum
information
The info will now include the source repository from which the pkg will
be fetched.
I dont get this option in my screen. What version of GURPMI are you using,
or whatever package it is?
Rob
Want to buy your Pack
On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 10:43 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
Using rpmdrake right click in the info pane and select maximum
information
The info will now include the source repository from which the pkg will
be fetched.
I dont get this option in my screen. What version of GURPMI are you
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:43:32 -0600
Robert Wideman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I dont get this option in my screen. What version of GURPMI are you
using, or whatever package it is?
On my 9.0 system it is the stock pkgs
urpmi--4.0-20.1mdk
gurpmi-4.0-20.1mdk
rpmdrake-2.0-27mdk
Charles
--
I dont get this option in my screen. What version of GURPMI are you
using, or whatever package it is?
On my 9.0 system it is the stock pkgs
urpmi--4.0-20.1mdk
gurpmi-4.0-20.1mdk
rpmdrake-2.0-27mdk
Ah, this right-click has to be done on the right pane where the description
already is.
On Thursday February 13 2003 10:06 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
the author really should go ahead and start back with the
caffeine in their coffee, or less working on beta testting of
uubp.
What exactly did you mean by that, ed? ;)
LX
The uubp part? I'm still lookin for testers
On Thursday 13 February 2003 11:06 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 10:52, et wrote:
On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:43 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
I have not seen one posting to Newbie OR Expert stating they like
the separate programs for RPM installation. Its a hassle
On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:59 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:43 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
I have not seen one posting to Newbie OR Expert stating
they like the
separate programs for RPM installation. Its a hassle
switching between the
well really I think it was Anne that made the statement in
question; OK - if
we don't agree, we don't exist if you made that statement,
perhaps you would
like to explain it.
I don't agree with Rush Limbaugh, but I am pretty sure we both exist.
OH, NM
Rob
Want to buy your Pack or
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:11:23 +
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I have wondered sometimes, though, whether it is always clear where you are
going to get the update from. I think plf always indicate that in their
name, (I don't know about others because I don't use them), but
Whew. I tell you what guysI love 9.1 in general and so far things
have been working OK. But this new rpmdrake UI is the worst idea I've
seen in a long long time. I wish I had one or two gallons of holy
water, some wooden stakes and some nightvision goggles so I could put
this undead monster
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On Wednesday 12 February 2003 02:09 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
The positive side to all this is that in the Mandrakeclub RPM voting
page, you can let it be known if you do not like LM9X Rpmdrake by
casting your vote for Ctardif's entry, listed as
On Wednesday February 12 2003 01:09 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Whew. I tell you what guysI love 9.1 in general and so far
things have been working OK. But this new rpmdrake UI is the worst
idea I've seen in a long long time. I wish I had one or two
gallons of holy water, some wooden stakes
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 14:39, Greg Meyer wrote:
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 02:09 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
The positive side to all this is that in the Mandrakeclub RPM voting
page, you can let it be known if you do not like LM9X Rpmdrake by
casting your vote for Ctardif's entry, listed
SNIP
BTW, in the recent discussions of updating 9.1b3 from mirrors, I
failed to mention there's a new tool 'urpmi.setup' available. A
little GUI tool for the CL challenged to use urpmi. 'Course I haven't
used it ;)urpmi.setup-0.4.2-1mdk
Gosh. I like it :-)
urpmi.setup seems to use
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On Wednesday 12 February 2003 03:17 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
If you are still on 8.2, you must have missed the fact that the new
rpmdrake was introduced in 9.0 to quite favorable reaction.
Favorable reaction where, exactly? I haven't seen any
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On Wednesday 12 February 2003 03:51 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
I hate to argue with you Lyvim, but I found th 8.2 version a tad confusing.
Sure it was all there, but somehow I was never sure that I was seeing
what I wanted to find. Perhaps it was
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 14:51, Tom Brinkman wrote:
Now Lyvim, I believe you read the cooker list and should know this
was all hammered out, fuss'd about, reasons given, and concessions
made months ago on the cooker list. If I'm terribly wrong, then
search the cooker archives back in
On 12 Feb 2003 14:09:03 -0500
Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rpmdrake in LM82 was very eloquent and I got addicted to it in record
time; all functions right there at your fingertips, including
update/install/removal/source configuration. I got used to using it
almost on a daily
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On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:30 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
this was changed in 9.0 and I was quite disappointed it with it too, ttytt.
the most important feature of 8.2's rpmdrake was that you could see...
right there in front of you... what files
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:36:14 -0500
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On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:30 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
this was changed in 9.0 and I was quite disappointed it with it too, ttytt.
the most important feature of 8.2's
Aside from Tom's insighful comments[1], to set some facts straight...
On Wednesday February 12 2003 01:09 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
[...]
thing. In LM91 beta 3, to duplicate the functionality of one LM82
Rpmdrake UI instance, you must activate all four icon instances of
rpmdrake listed in MCC.
On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 9:45 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:36:14 -0500
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this was changed in 9.0 and I was quite disappointed
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On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:45 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
OH! Greg you're a godsend!
(what an odd way to do it... i never would have thought to do that... why
isn't there a big huge sign saying right click the right pane and choose
maximum
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 16:15, Greg Meyer wrote:
I just recall many discussions on a.o.l.m back during beta testing of 9.0
discussing this very thing, with some people liking it and some people hating
it. I also recall the Cooker discussion during the development process that
spelled out
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On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:54 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Well, I've done searches within the newbie and expert lists for
rpmdrake and I see almost no vocality on a positive note for rpmdrake
2.1. This isn't from memory, this is from a hard
On Wed 2003-02-12 at 14:30:04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
the most important feature of 8.2's rpmdrake was that you could
see... right there in front of you... what files it would put where
if you installed it. with rpmdrake in 9.0 it's not there.
Choose maximum information. If it
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:09 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
snip
Now try running the new and improved rpmdrake from an Eterm. It puts
you into software packages installation mode. Can you affect what
mode you want it to go into? Not according to rpmdrake --help. There
is not a method
Tho many were vocal (as you are) about the changes, the logic and
reasons for it as given by the Mdk. developers were compelling if not
convincing, and much progress has been made with the new versions
since.
I have not seen one posting to Newbie OR Expert stating they like the
separate
No matter how many people vote to put nVidia
drivers in the
distro, they won't go in.
This is b/c of the nVidia license, not the voting of users. Correct?
Rob
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
I am somewhat new to the cooker list, and I just migrated to 9.1 beta.
The difference is that now I've actually made the transition from
theory to practice in my involvement with rpmdrake 2.x, and it isn't
positive. I just don't believe the 4-way interface is as good as
rpmdrake 1.4. Behind
the most important feature of 8.2's rpmdrake was that you could
see... right there in front of you... what files it would put
where if you installed it. with rpmdrake in 9.0 it's not there.
I can't figure out HOW on EARTH to tell WHAT FILES a package
installs so some rpms get installed and
On Wednesday February 12 2003 03:30 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
so, since rpmdrake's become enigmatic, anyone know what command
used to query a package BEFORE istallation to list every file it's
going to install (and where) so i could, for example, out the
output to a text file and read it first?
This info is VERY useful for prep work on PLF DL's. You dont know how many
libraries are illegal in the US (DMCA laws) and can not be DL through GURPMI
for progs on PLF. pbone.net is great for this since it gets around it.
Rob
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On Wednesday 12 February 2003 08:16 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 05:54 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
No matter how many people vote to put nVidia
drivers in the
distro, they won't go in.
This is b/c of the nVidia
On Wednesday February 12 2003 08:21 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
This info is VERY useful for prep work on PLF DL's. You dont know
how many libraries are illegal in the US (DMCA laws) and can not be
DL through GURPMI for progs on PLF. pbone.net is great for this
since it gets around it. Rob
On Wednesday February 12 2003 08:21 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
This info is VERY useful for prep work on PLF DL's. You dont know
how many libraries are illegal in the US (DMCA laws) and can not be
DL through GURPMI for progs on PLF. pbone.net is great for this
since it gets around it.
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 22:32, you wrote:
(An example of a neglected new feature is the Samba setup wizard - To set
up a basic Samba server, all you have to do is press the Samba wizard
button in Mandrake Control Centre.
Aaarrg
Guess what I spent all
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