Re: Mail server software (Was Re: FYI -- fake email abuse warning)

On 13 Nov 2009 at 12:16, John Aldrich wrote: > It appears that with Icewarp you have to buy each part individually. If you > want to use Outlook, you have to buy a "plugin" for that. If you want A/D > connection, there's a plugin to buy for that. At least it appears that way. > With Kerio, there

Mail server software (Was Re: FYI -- fake email abuse warning)

It appears that with Icewarp you have to buy each part individually. If you want to use Outlook, you have to buy a "plugin" for that. If you want A/D connection, there's a plugin to buy for that. At least it appears that way. With Kerio, there are plugins to download, but they are free. I think tha

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*From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] > *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 8:46 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Mail server software > > > > You can have additional DCs but SBS\EBS has to hold all the FSMO roles… > > > > Shook >

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Mail server software Hmm... but it *will* take over an existing Active Directory? I don't want to have to rebuild the AD from scratch. From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software

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Outlook 2010 rocks though! :) Getting Calendar reminders from multiple Exchange mailboxes is just plain awesome!!! Tim From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Essential Business

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m*: Jon Harris > *To*: NT System Admin Issues > *Sent*: Thu Aug 20 13:41:39 2009 > *Subject*: Re: Mail server software > > Nope it is there in original 2008 as well. > > Jon > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Richard Stovall < > richard.stov...@researchdata.

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Sent: Thu Aug 20 13:41:39 2009 Subject: Re: Mail server software Nope it is there in original 2008 as well. Jon On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Richard Stovall mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com>> wrote: The key may be R2 vsoriginal��� Server 2008. From: Ken Schaefe

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d/101665/new-windows-server-back up-features-in-windows-server-2008-r2.html From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software Nope it is there in original 2008 as well. Jon On Thu, Aug

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August 20, 2009 11:48 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Mail server software > > > > Huh? > > > > > > Win2k8 R2 Windows Backup is better because it goes back to granular level > backup (not just a whole volume at a time) > > > >

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I have the native backup in 2008 doing live backups of 6 VM's backups take about 9 to 10 hours and are getting something like 760GB of data to a Lacie 1TB hard drive. Restores are more of a challenge but I am still trying to learn the new way to do things on that server as far as backup. Jon On

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IMHO. Tim -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:28 AM, John Cook wrote: > The new server backup utility BLOWS DONKEYS! > You can&#

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ystem Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software The new server backup utility BLOWS DONKEYS! You can't backup to a UNC path - you can backup to a USB drive (I'm already doing this with NT Backup) but that doesn't help me with it when it's running in a VM. John W. C

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:28 AM, John Cook wrote: > The new server backup utility BLOWS DONKEYS! > You can't backup to a UNC path ... Sounds like it's just like Vista, then. The one that came with Vista: You can't even select/exclude individual files or folders. It's all or nothing. Given

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tem Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Mail server software > > > > Huh? > > > > > > Win2k8 R2 Windows Backup is better because it goes back to granular level > backup (not just a whole volume at a time) > > > > -Original Message- > From: John Cook

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ystems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: Ken Schaefer To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thu Aug 20 11:47:42 2009 Subject: RE: Mail server software Huh? [cid:image001.png@01CA21F0.9BB553A0] Win2k8 R2 Wind

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The key may be R2 vs 'original' Server 2008. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Huh? Win2k8 R2 Windows Backup is better because it goes back to gran

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Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software The new server backup utility BLOWS DONKEYS! You can't backup to a UNC path - you can backup to a USB drive (I'm already doing this with NT Backup) but that doesn't help me with it when it's running in a VM. John W. Cook S

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Essential Business Server which is Microsoft's new-ish mid-market solution similar to SBS for small companies. TVK From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software EBS? Not familiar

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ilies 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subj

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EBS: http://www.microsoft.com/ebs/en/us/default.aspx From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 20 August 2009 14:49 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software EBS? Not familiar with that term. Can you explain? Still... considering the cost of

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e same version of Outlook? John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Your problem, John, is you've discounted, arguably, the best product on t

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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Jim Majorowicz wrote: > Exchange can be backed up natively from NTBackup quite nicely ... Curious, as I haven't looked into this yet: What about Server 2008 and later? NTBACKUP has gone away. Are the replacements worth a damn? I know the tools that come with

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And I didn't even mention that Exchange 2010 doesn't even need OUTLOOK! From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Your problem, John, is you've discounted, arg

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he range of SBS, but not EBS. Have you priced that as a solution? From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software I agree, I did not articulate my requirements very well. However,

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Or BackupExec can now do this. (Say it was purged from deleted items). -Original Message- From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Yes you do. It's called Deleted

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Yes you do. It's called Deleted Items Retention. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Yes, but you don't have any way to restore *just o

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Exchange skills keeping things going :) Dave "jack of all trades, master of zilch" Lum From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Agreed. Exchange 5.5 and Exchange 2007 are co

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ob of adhering to the exception rules that were applied. TVK From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Comparing Exchange today (especially vNext) to 5.5 is a really inappropriate compa

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p For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Erik Goldoff To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Tue Aug 18 11:33:38 2009 Subject: RE: Mail server software "...I take the time to teach and empower my users, most admins neither make or take the

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s in many many locations especially these last couple of years ... Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, & Security -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server

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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:50 AM, John Cook wrote: > I'm sure you've gone on a rant once or twice about how stupid > someone was for doing something they know better than to do. Er. Um. Who me? ;-) Okay, guilty as charged. > I don't think being able to restore any (as in all messages ever

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riginal Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:45 PM, John Cook wrote: > If they choose to ignor what I instruct them > to do how is that not stu

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Ben, while I understand what you're saying, the fact is that: --- More and more enterprise software is headed in this direction of black-box composition --- We don't actually own the software. We own a license to use it --- There are less people that need/want to get into the guts, and more peo

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18 August 2009 11:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Brian Desmond wrote: > The fact that you can't edit an ESE database is _good_. On this, we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm of the opinion that if I own

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-Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Mail server software On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: >> Hmm - do you use a DBMS (like SQL Server or Oracle) as well? > Actually, not really. We're small. (There&#

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Brian Desmond wrote: > The fact that you can't edit an ESE database is _good_. On this, we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm of the opinion that if I own something, I should be able to do anything I want with it, including break it. I also believe that (to

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rectory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/ Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software On Mon, Aug

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:45 PM, John Cook wrote: > If they choose to ignor what I instruct them > to do how is that not stupid? If it's simply a question of not following instructions, perhaps. I may have been taking your comments in broader context than you intended. This discussion is ba

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andle a DB intensive app like Exchange. Sam -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Hmm - do you use a DBMS (like SQL Server or Oracle) as well? Most of those are bin

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Andrew S. Baker wrote: > Ultimately, it's a factor of single-instance storage. It seems to me that, in the general case, it should be possible to have both SIS and individual element restores. Assume SIS is implemented as a reference counted system of blobs, wit

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > Hmm - do you use a DBMS (like SQL Server or Oracle) as well? Actually, not really. We're small. (There's a couple MSDE instances, and a Firebird instance, all in support of various applications, but they're more "embedded" then something

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: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian Desmond wrote: > What's the problem with the database engine? There's been a massive > amount of engineering work in that space - I don't expect it's going anywhere. I can

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Ultimately, it's a factor of single-instance storage. The various add-on products that facilitate the restore of a single mailbox, by and large, undo single-instance storage. -ASB On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Ben Scott wrote: > The inability to easily restore a single mailbox is not a g

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properly categorize and label it. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software I continuously coach user

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et share. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Ben Scott To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Mon Aug 17 20:09:52 2009 Subject: Re: Mail server software On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:20 PM, John

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:20 PM, John Cook wrote: > Sure, I get the point ... I'm not sure you do... > ... it all boils down to storage. Or design. The inability to easily restore a single mailbox is not a good thing. Maybe there are tech trade-offs that make that design limitation nece

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Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Honestly, this wasn’t a ‘bug’ that needed fixing, and I don’t think I would have had a problem doing it, but they had no problem with doing this, and he was on the phone for a lot longer than I would think the cost of the onetime critical ticket

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onnect/thread.jspa?messageID=112 740𛡤 Has anyone run Exchange in a Cloud? == John == From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Comparing Exchange today (especially vNext)

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ohn Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software I agree, I did not articulate my requirements very well. However, I ass-u-med that any admin in their right mind would want to be able to back up their mail server. M

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om my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Ben Scott To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Mon Aug 17 18:05:24 2009 Subject: Re: Mail server software On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:16 PM, John Cook wrote: > It's called "Dumpster always on" and restore deleted items >

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:16 PM, John Cook wrote: > It's called "Dumpster always on" and restore deleted items > in OWA and if they need an email they deleted past the retention > window then it falls under the "I can't save you from your own stupidity" > heading. Meanwhile, another mail system

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:14 PM, John Bowles wrote: > Anyone in their right mind would host any business centric email on a > platform outside of Exchange, Lotus or Sendmail is just asking for trouble. That much resistance to change is not a healthy attitude for any business. Just ask Novell

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iginal Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Yes, but you don't have any way to restore *just one message* with NTBackup. :-) Agree that I should have been a bit more

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ent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software Problem may start with 1 gb storage. It's llke Titanik - single and big I prefer OE on XP and specially Win Mail on Vista - each message in separate .eml file Anatoly Podgoretsky ht

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PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Yes, but you don't have any way to restore *just one message* with NTBackup. :-) Agree that I should have been a bit more specific... If you want to be able to back up mailbox by mailbox, etc. you have to "pay to play&q

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server software, no so much. :-) -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Not to discount what you know about Exchange but... 1. I don't think any DB should be

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.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:03 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Mail server software > > Sorry - meant to say they are the usual Open Source suspects. > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:59, Kurt Buff wrote: >> Zimbra, OSER and Scalix are

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John, this post is a peach!!! -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Anyone in their right mind would host any business centric email on a platform outside

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essage- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Yes, but you don't have any way to restore *just one message* with NTBackup. :-) Agree that I should have been a bit more specific..

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To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software Sorry - meant to say they are the usual Open Source suspects. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:59, Kurt Buff wrote: > Zimbra, OSER and Scalix are the usual suspects. > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 08:53, John Aldrich > wrote: >>

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much. :-) > > > > > -Original Message- > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:59 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Mail server software > > Not to discount what you know about Exchange but... > 1. I don

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-Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Not to discount what you know about Exchange but... 1. I don't think any DB should be scanned by an AV program that doe

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Sorry... I neglected to mention, we're wanting to bring email in-house so we *don't* have hosted email. :-) -Original Message- From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server soft

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Sorry - meant to say they are the usual Open Source suspects. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:59, Kurt Buff wrote: > Zimbra, OSER and Scalix are the usual suspects. > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 08:53, John Aldrich > wrote: >> If you don’t want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get >>

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Zimbra, OSER and Scalix are the usual suspects. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 08:53, John Aldrich wrote: > If you don’t want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get > that has pretty much the same functionality as Exchange, including the > following: > > 1)  Active Directory integra

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+1 Kerio - good stuff: solid, stable, & great company/service. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

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Have you looked into Microsoft's hosted services model? All the benefits of Exchange without having to maintain the thing. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM, John Aldrich wrote: > If you don’t want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get > that has pretty much the same functionalit

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:42 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > Antivirus has to be told to overlook certain directories and you have > to have an "exchange-aware" antivirus or buy a special "plugin" for > the antivirus to allow it to scan the Exchange DB. That's going to be true for most mail systems, t

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7, 2009 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Exactly! That's one of my concerns... Antivirus has to be told to overlook certain directories and you have to have an "exchange-aware" antivirus or buy a special "plugin" for the antivirus to allow

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ike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Sorry, I didn't read that part of your mind. I see no "in-house" as you quoted. :\ -- Mike Gill From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...

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Problem may start with 1 gb storage. It's llke Titanik - single and big I prefer OE on XP and specially Win Mail on Vista - each message in separate .eml file Anatoly Podgoretsky http://www.podgoretsky.com - Original Message - From: "John Aldrich" To: "NT System Admin Issues" > On

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--Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian Desmond wrote: > What's the problem with the database engine? There's bee

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ilto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Exactly! That's one of my concerns... Antivirus has to be told to overlook certain directories and you have to have an "exchange-aware" antivirus or buy a

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day, August 17, 2009 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mail server software If you don’t want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get that has pretty much the same functionality as Exchange, including the following: 1) Active Directory integration 2) Shared calendars

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tion. :-) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian Desmond wrote: > What's the problem with the database engine? There's

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Sorry, I didn't read that part of your mind. I see no "in-house" as you quoted. :\ -- Mike Gill From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Did you miss the

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dized DB. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software What's the problem with the database engine? There's been a massive amount of engineering work i

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian Desmond wrote: > What’s the problem with the database engine? There’s been a massive amount > of engineering work in that space – I don’t expect it’s going anywhere. I can't speak for the OP... but the fact that the Exchange IS is a giant binary blob, compl

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t: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Price, mainly... and some of the problems Exchange has, like the Jet database (AIUI, they still have not done away with the Jet database!) and all the proprietary technology behind it. One of the features

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lueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:41 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Mail server software   Price, mainly… and some of the problems Exchange has, like the Jet database (AIUI, they still have not done away with the Jet database!) and all the proprietary technology beh

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M To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/outlook_sync.html Sounds like this does everything you asked for except for the AD integration. But depending on a couple things that may not matter with this implementation. -- Mik

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> > > *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2009 12:06 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Mail server software > > > > Just curious – why not Exchange? > > > > *John W. Cook* > > *Systems Administrator* &

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601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Price, mainly... and some

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l and windows logon. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software You're already looking at Kerio, so I would also recommend SmarterMail... http://www.smarte

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...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mail server software If you don't want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get that has pretty much the same functionality as Exchange, including the following: 1) Active Directory integr

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02 PM Subject: RE: Mail server software Used Mdaemon in the past and was happy with in. Good spam filtering also. -- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:54 AM

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12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Sorry hit the send too quick. Is Exchange so expensive it isn't worth getting the extra features or is yours just a small shop? Hosted Exchange? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Famili

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.@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Just curious - why not Exchange? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell

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Subject: RE: Mail server software Sorry hit the send too quick. Is Exchange so expensive it isn't worth getting the extra features or is yours just a small shop? Hosted Exchange? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office

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How about Scalix? From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software You're already looking at Kerio, so I would also recommend SmarterMail... http://www.smartertools.com/Smarte

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You're already looking at Kerio, so I would also recommend SmarterMail... http://www.smartertools.com/SmarterMail/Features/Windows-Mail-Server-Software-Webmail-Exchange-Alternative.aspx -ASB On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM, John Aldrich wrote: > If you don’t want to pay the

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(352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Just curious - why not Exchange? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnershi

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[mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mail server software If you don't want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get that has pretty much the same functionality as Exchange, including the following: 1) A

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...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mail server software If you don't want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get that has pretty much the same functionality as Exchange, including the following: 1) Active Dire

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Used Mdaemon in the past and was happy with in. Good spam filtering also. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mail server software If you don't want to pa

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If you don't want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get that has pretty much the same functionality as Exchange, including the following: 1) Active Directory integration 2) Shared calendars 3) Reserved meeting rooms (i.e. send a meeting invite to the room email