RE: HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: RE: Why XP is doomed)

2008-05-14 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists
bject: RE: HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: RE: Why XP is doomed) In my case, I don't have a SAN. Just a decent raid controller, and a bunch of smaller VMs doing single tasks. Also, there are options in VMWare to allow/disallow swapping of memory of the guest O

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2008-05-14 Thread Michael . Leone
Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/13/2008 08:28:29 PM: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 4:00 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > > "John Hornbuckle" <[EMAIL PRO

RE: HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: RE: Why XP is doomed)

2008-05-14 Thread René de Haas
, May 14, 2008 8:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: RE: Why XP is doomed) So, you are talking about: a) Disabling the page file inside VMs (A), (B) and (C) b) Hoping that the OSes inside those machines never need

RE: HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: RE: Why XP is doomed)

2008-05-14 Thread Ken Schaefer
. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 5:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: RE: Why XP is doomed) In my case, I don't have a SAN. Just a decent raid controller, and a bunch of smaller VMs doing single

RE: HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: RE: Why XP is doomed)

2008-05-14 Thread Matthew W. Ross
__ From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:40:33 -0700 Subject: RE: HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: RE: Why XP is doomed) So, you are talking about

RE: HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: RE: Why XP is doomed)

2008-05-13 Thread Ken Schaefer
ut the VMs on a SAN (for performance as well as HA reasons), so raw IOps shouldn't be an issue. Cheers Ken From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 4:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: R

HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: RE: Why XP is doomed)

2008-05-13 Thread Matthew W. Ross
ybody done this kind of thing with success? Just a thought. It's ripe for the squashing. Sm:)e. --Matt Ross _ From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:36:38 -0700 Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed W

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2008-05-13 Thread Paul Cheuk
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2008-05-13 Thread Ken Schaefer
f your machine doesn't, you need a page file to "fake" physical RAM. Cheers Ken > -Original Message- > From: paul cheuk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 11:16 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed >

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2008-05-13 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
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2008-05-13 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
XP is doomed > > > > 15k for SAS were until a couple of monthes ago only for SAS 3.5'' .Now > > they are out also for SAS 2.5'. > > > > Manufacturers started now to ship some models of laptops with 2.5'' > > 7200 rpm > > > > *GuidoElia* > > > > *HELPPC* > > > >

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2008-05-13 Thread paul cheuk
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2008-05-13 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
gt; etc away from the office? Do you make them VPN in all the time to be able to > edit something off an internal file server? > > > > Cheers > > Ken > > > > > > From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 1:11 AM >

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2008-05-13 Thread Ken Schaefer
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 4:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed "John Hornbuckle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/12/2008 08:29:20 PM: > My Pentium D is only 2.8 GHz, so you've got me bea

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2008-05-13 Thread Ken Schaefer
To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed I have to say I agree and disagree with both threads. I agree with Murray because in my org the pc's are just dumb terminals and all the work is done from the db on a server. If I was in an org where everyone was responsible for thei

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2008-05-13 Thread Jim Majorowicz
L PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed That's what happens with the use of everyone else's code. Even in class the instructors would say if you have routine that gets you the results you want just give credit to the o

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2008-05-13 Thread Michael . Leone
Phillip Partipilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/13/2008 02:18:31 PM: > Right, some apps may be compiled in such a fashion where they can > utilize a 3gb application address space if a 32-bit os is booted with > the /3gb switch, but of course they need to be specially compiled to do > so, othe

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2008-05-13 Thread Phillip Partipilo
rates 4.7 on the Windows Experience Index, with the lowest > subscore being on the processor. Haven't bothered running the Experience yet ... > > > John > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 4:00 PM > To: NT System Ad

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2008-05-13 Thread Michael . Leone
re being on the processor. Haven't bothered running the Experience yet ... > > > John > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 4:00 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > >

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2008-05-13 Thread Michael . Leone
gt; > > John Hornbuckle > > MIS Department > > Taylor County School District > > 318 North Clark Street > > Perry, FL 32347 > > > > www.taylor.k12.fl.us > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

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2008-05-13 Thread Klint Price - ArizonaITPro
--- > *From:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Monday, May 12, 2008 3:29 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Why XP is doomed > > I have 2.2 GHZ Centrino Duo laptop with 2GB of RAM and Vista works as > fast as my previous X

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2008-05-13 Thread Carl Houseman
ED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed No offense, but your post sounds like it was written bya MS Marketing Wiz. Increased Security is a good thing. But define "increased security". Since all our info is retained on servers,

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2008-05-13 Thread John Hornbuckle
m Win9x directly to WinXP. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subje

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2008-05-13 Thread John Hornbuckle
y Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed No offense, but your post sounds like it was written bya MS Marketing Wiz. Increased Security is a good thing. But define "increased security". Since all our i

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2008-05-13 Thread Murray Freeman
Murray From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed As far as security...NO security is all encompassing you can't secure servers and not care about the cli

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2008-05-13 Thread RAY ZORZ
ion with you regarding the good and the bad. You are only interested in the bad. Closed minds make for frustrating discussion. TVK From:Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed No offense, but your

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2008-05-13 Thread Matthew W. Ross
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:36:17 -0700 Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > Whether or not Vista offers any benefits to you, is something only you can > decide. But can we have enough of the "Vista has no benefits&qu

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2008-05-13 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
eeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed No offense, but your post sounds like it was written bya MS Marketing Wiz. Increased Security is a good thing. But define "increased security". Since all our i

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2008-05-13 Thread David W. McSpadden
the pc. I just keep the data lines tethered with a tight string and I feel good when I go home at night. - Original Message - From: Murray Freeman To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed No offense, but your post sounds

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2008-05-13 Thread Murray Freeman
idual had a faster laptop, but Vista wasn't running any faster than XP on an older slower laptop. So, is there really an increase in speed? Murray From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed

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2008-05-13 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed You could run Windows 2000 Pro in 64 MB. It really liked 128 MB, but 64 MB worked fine. Couldn't do that with XP. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ziots, E

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2008-05-13 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Monday, May 12, 2008 7:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed If your organization doesn't need things like increased security, improved ease of management, and better performance with offline files and folders, then no-Vista probably wouldn't be of use to you.

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2008-05-13 Thread RAY ZORZ
ssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed It has just become ridiculous how much memory you need for a workstation. I remember upgrading workstatio

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2008-05-13 Thread David W. McSpadden
ternet and bloating our pc's. - Original Message - From: "John Hornbuckle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:55 AM Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed I'm not a programmer, but it does seem to me that today

RE: Why XP is doomed

2008-05-13 Thread Ziots, Edward
Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed I don't th

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2008-05-13 Thread John Hornbuckle
ssage- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed It has just become ridiculous how much memory you need for a workstation. I remember upgrading workstations to 32MB of memory and then 64MB and

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2008-05-13 Thread Michael B. Smith
f NOOPs in that code :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed It has just become ridiculous

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2008-05-13 Thread Murray Freeman
AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed I see what you had on your system but from where I was at, Win 2k had 64 MB of RAM we started our XP systems with 128 MB and rapidly moved that to 256. Near the end of our installs for XP we were spec'ing systems with 1 GB of RAM. Y

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2008-05-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed Hell Memory these days is cheap. I got 4GB in my XP machine, and will be running Vmworkstation and a few hacking tools from home on 2k8 and Nix Os's in VM's, and still runs like a champ. Z Edward E. Ziots Network En

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2008-05-13 Thread Ziots, Edward
A,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: David Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed But ever new OS needs drivers. Every new os has always had greater requirements tha

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2008-05-13 Thread Christopher J. Bosak
:40 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed I have pc's right now with more memory than their respective file servers. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: Re:

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2008-05-13 Thread David W. McSpadden
I have pc's right now with more memory than their respective file servers. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed It has just become ridiculous how much

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2008-05-13 Thread Ziots, Edward
e: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed It has just become ridiculous how much memory you need for a workstation. I remember upgrading workstations

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2008-05-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message: - From: Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:29:37 -0400 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed Amen. Jon On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Michael B. Smith < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could run Windows 2000

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2008-05-13 Thread Michael B. Smith
Absolutely! Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed Same could be said of Windows 95

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2008-05-13 Thread Rankin, James R
doomed Same could be said of Windows 95 running on 16MB, it really liked 64MB but 16MB would work. - Original Message - From: "Michael B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed

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2008-05-13 Thread David W. McSpadden
Same could be said of Windows 95 running on 16MB, it really liked 64MB but 16MB would work. - Original Message - From: "Michael B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed

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2008-05-13 Thread Jon Harris
B. Smith > MCSE/Exchange MVP > http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> > > -Original Message- > From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:16 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > Funny, &g

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2008-05-13 Thread David W. McSpadden
Actually I have found any OS loves you when you add memory. Even the *nix boxes and MAC cubes like memory and space. - Original Message - From: "Ziots, Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:16 AM Subject: RE

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2008-05-13 Thread Jon Harris
> Lifespan Organization > MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA > Phone: 401-639-3505 > > -Original Message- > From: David Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:59 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed &g

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2008-05-13 Thread Michael B. Smith
008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed Funny, I have to disagree with XP needing 2X the memory Windows 2000 does, I ran both Windows 2000 and XP with 1GB RAM on same machine with no issues. ( Win2k SP4 Pro, then wiped and rebuilt with XP SP2, still fine performance)

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2008-05-13 Thread David Houston
] -Original Message- From: "Durf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Sent: 11/05/08 14:50 Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed Yeah, I suspect so - I have a Thinkpad T60p with a Vista Experience score of 4.6 that was running like crap after having used i

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2008-05-13 Thread David Houston
ROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Sent: 11/05/08 08:44 Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed Hold on there... If an OS requires new drivers and more horsepower... we can't blame the new OS? Oh yes we can. --Matt ross _ From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2008-05-13 Thread Ken Schaefer
3 May 2008 6:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed More and more laptops these days are also shipping with SSDs, and with the price of flash plumetting, it may be all laptops will use them in the future. Biggest problem is wear leveling and Windows' dependence on the p

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2008-05-13 Thread Phillip Partipilo
anufacturer does not ship them. Even 10,000 RPM 2.5” drives are out now. SAS and SATA. I just got a 15K RPM in my workstation now. *From:* HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, May 12, 2008 10:12 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Why XP is doomed You are wrong . On lapto

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2008-05-12 Thread Ken Schaefer
ED] Sent: Tuesday, 13 May 2008 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed Now let me understand this. I should spend the money to acquire a new FASTER computer so that I can run Vista which runs at the very SAME speed that an older slower computer did running XP, but Vista rea

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2008-05-12 Thread Salvador Manzo
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 13 May 2008 10:24 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > My rule(s) of thumb for minimum RAM to get the job done: > > Light/casual user: XP 512MB Vista 1GB > Average user: XP 1GB Vista 2GB > Powe

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2008-05-12 Thread Ken Schaefer
TED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 4:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed Really ... I have a Pentium D, 3GHz, 2M RAM. You think if I bumped the RAM to 4G that Vista would be OK with it? I mostly use this PC for photoediting (Photoshop CS3), and video editing (which in my

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2008-05-12 Thread Ken Schaefer
e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: lunedì 12 maggio 2008 17.21 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Why XP is doomed Ok, maybe the 80's was a stretch, I was kidding. But 72000 RPM 2.5" disks have been out for a few years I would imagine. At least three years I would imagine, since I

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2008-05-12 Thread Carl Houseman
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed My Pentium D is only 2.8 GHz, so you've got me beat there. I've also got just 2 GB of RAM. I use Photoshop, but not working with huge images and no video editing. I don't think

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2008-05-12 Thread Carl Houseman
dy with a Vista-specific issue. Sure, postpone the change for the organization if you must, but get your feet wet now before you're under the gun. Carl From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doome

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2008-05-12 Thread John Hornbuckle
:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed Now let me understand this. I should spend the money to acquire a new FASTER computer so that I can run Vista which runs at the very SAME speed that an older slower computer did running XP, but Vista really has little if any to

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2008-05-12 Thread John Hornbuckle
with the lowest subscore being on the processor. John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 4:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed Really ... I have a Pentium D, 3GHz, 2M RAM. You think if I bumped the RAM to 4G that

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2008-05-12 Thread Carl Houseman
onday, May 12, 2008 4:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed Really ... I have a Pentium D, 3GHz, 2M RAM. You think if I bumped the RAM to 4G that Vista would be OK with it? I mostly use this PC for photoediting (Photoshop CS3), and video editing (which in my case is convert

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2008-05-12 Thread Jeffrey Showen
> > > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:46 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > > > > > > My wife h

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2008-05-12 Thread Murray Freeman
nday, May 12, 2008 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed I have 2.2 GHZ Centrino Duo laptop with 2GB of RAM and Vista works as fast as my previous XP Machine which was a 1.8GHX Centrino Duo and 2GB RAM. So your Pentium D 3 Ghz should be fine and dandy with or without t

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2008-05-12 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
is because they choose to ignore that Microsoft has also stated > > that "never again" will there be 5+ years between operating system > releases. > > It was simply too long, and Microsoft heard that message too. > > > > You don't have to get with the program.

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2008-05-12 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
In many cases yes - but not all On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 3:39 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Hornbuckle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/11/2008 > 01:28:13 PM: > > > > I like the extra security Vista provides. I also like that when my techs > > work on users' machines, they can do thin

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2008-05-12 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
wn. > > > > > Bill Lambert > > Concuity > > 847-941-9206 > > > > > > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:46 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > > > > My

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2008-05-12 Thread Matthew W. Ross
20:25:56 -0700 Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > What's wrong with blaming the people who can't program a decent driver in > the first place? > > > > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 02:44 hrs. > To: NT System Admin I

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2008-05-12 Thread Graeme Carstairs
out of AVI files, using Nero 7). > > Feel free to reply offlist > > > > > > > > > John Hornbuckle > > MIS Department > > Taylor County School District > > 318 North Clark Street > > Perry, FL 32347 > > > > www.taylor.k12.

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2008-05-12 Thread Michael . Leone
47 > > www.taylor.k12.fl.us > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:35 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > > Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/11/2008 03:58

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2008-05-12 Thread John Hornbuckle
all. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed

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2008-05-12 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed "John Hornbuckle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/11/2008 01:28:13 PM: > I like the extra security Vista provides. I also like that when my techs > work on

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2008-05-12 Thread Michael . Leone
"John Hornbuckle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/11/2008 01:28:13 PM: > I like the extra security Vista provides. I also like that when my techs > work on users' machines, they can do things that require admin rights > without logging in with an admin account. It speeds up certain tasks > consid

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2008-05-12 Thread Michael . Leone
To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > Hold on there... If an OS requires new drivers and more > horsepower... we can't blame the new OS? > > Oh yes we can. > > --Matt ross > > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >

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2008-05-12 Thread Sam Cayze
to: lunedì 12 maggio 2008 17.21 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Why XP is doomed Ok, maybe the 80's was a stretch, I was kidding. But 72000 RPM 2.5" disks have been out for a few years I would imagine. At least three years I would imagine, since I have been working with lapt

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2008-05-12 Thread Ziots, Edward
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed I have to disagree with the paragraph about the pressure from OEMs to dump XP

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2008-05-12 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
the backside. Vista is far better in this area. Tim -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed No need to "run as" with Vista. When doing admin things, you'r

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2008-05-12 Thread Jim Majorowicz
I have to disagree with the paragraph about the pressure from OEMs to dump XP. Seems to me, several HP and Dell included, are doing exactly the opposite. Both are offering to exercise the OEM downgrade rights for you and ship PCs to you with XP pre-installed, but with a Vista license attached and

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2008-05-12 Thread Bill Lambert
Ahhh...ok, thanks. I should start living in the 21st century, huh... Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed I never buy any laptops with 5400 RPM disks

RE: Why XP is doomed

2008-05-12 Thread Rankin, James R
System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed Nothing, that counts for about ½ of the developers in the world. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Christopher J. Bosak

RE: Why XP is doomed

2008-05-12 Thread Ziots, Edward
, 2008 11:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed What's wrong with blaming the people who can't program a decent driver in the first place? From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 02:44 hrs. To: NT System Admin Issues Subjec

RE: Why XP is doomed

2008-05-12 Thread Christopher J. Bosak
2, 2008 09:40 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed Yup. We have nearly 5000 machines, and only maybe a dozen or so could actually run Vista. So that means a wholesale change of our desktops to get exactly what? Add the latest Office version which takes awhile for even e

RE: Why XP is doomed

2008-05-12 Thread Christopher J. Bosak
What's wrong with blaming the people who can't program a decent driver in the first place? From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 02:44 hrs. To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed Hold on there... If an OS requires new driver

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2008-05-12 Thread Sam Cayze
. Even 10,000 RPM 2.5" drives are out now. SAS and SATA. I just got a 15K RPM in my workstation now. From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed You

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2008-05-12 Thread RAY ZORZ
y? From:RAY ZORZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed Yup. We have nearly 5000 machines, and only maybe a dozen or so could actually run Vista. So that means a wholesale change of our desktops to get exactl

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2008-05-12 Thread John Hornbuckle
thumbnail of the window. That has turned out to be handy. Also, folder redirection seems to work better on our Vista machines than XP. Less intrusive and more responsive. -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 6:58 AM To: NT S

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2008-05-12 Thread HELP_PC
st as cool as 5400 rpm drives... From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed Doesn't putting in a 7200 spin disk increase the heat factor? I always thought that was the reason some laptops come

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2008-05-12 Thread Carl Houseman
Power consumption and battery life are the main consideration in a laptop. Heat is just a natural byproduct of higher speed. Carl From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed Doesn't pu

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2008-05-12 Thread Mike Gill
It's not interesting at all. Fast forward a few years when Windows 7 is released and the headline will be "Why Vista is doomed". And after Windows 8, "Why Windows 7 is doomed", ad infinitum. There's no worthwhile discussion here. It's the same story release after release just change the name. Some

RE: Why XP is doomed

2008-05-12 Thread Rod Trent
And, how long did it take these companies to release XP-compatible versions of their products? -Original Message- From: Krishna Reddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 8:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed This is why I am still on XP. The

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2008-05-12 Thread Sam Cayze
rpm drives... From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed Doesn't putting in a 7200 spin disk increase the heat factor? I always thought that was the reason some laptops come with 5400 spin

RE: Why XP is doomed

2008-05-12 Thread Rod Trent
Question. How many times have those computers been upgraded? i.e., What came pre-installed initially? From: RAY ZORZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed Yup. We have nearly 5000 machines, and only maybe a

RE: Why XP is doomed

2008-05-12 Thread Krishna Reddy
, Inc. -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed The OS is just hosting the applications that I use to get my job done. XP is good enough for this task. No reason

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2008-05-12 Thread RAY ZORZ
s with Vista and 4GB RAM and >> I am quite satisfied. >> >> >> GuidoElia >> HELPPC >> >> -Messaggio originale- >> Da: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Inviato: sabato 10 maggio 2008 16.44 >> A: NT System Admin Issues >>

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2008-05-12 Thread Rankin, James R
Surely you could do this in XP with RunAs? Or has Vista implemented some new-fangled, singing 'n dancing version of it? -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2008 18:28 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed I like the

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2008-05-12 Thread Michael B. Smith
I thought we were talking about performance, not heat! :-0 Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed

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2008-05-12 Thread Bill Lambert
o: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed My wife has a top of the line Sony SZ48 series Vaio. Fantastic machine - carbon fibre case, weighs next to nothing, two GPUs. Performance out of the box is abysmal. I replaced the drive with a 7200 RPM disk, upped the RAM, and tried to remo

RE: Why XP is doomed

2008-05-11 Thread John Hornbuckle
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed The OS is just hosting the applications that I use to get my job done. XP is good enough for this task. No reason whatsoever to upgrade. Michael B. Smith wrote: > Hah. I blogged on t

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