On 13 Nov 2009 at 12:16, John Aldrich wrote:
> It appears that with Icewarp you have to buy each part individually. If you
> want to use Outlook, you have to buy a "plugin" for that. If you want A/D
> connection, there's a plugin to buy for that. At least it appears that way.
> With Kerio, there
*From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 8:46 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Mail server software
>
>
>
> You can have additional DCs but SBS\EBS has to hold all the FSMO roles…
>
>
>
> Shook
>
Mail server software
Hmm... but it *will* take over an existing Active Directory? I don't
want to have to rebuild the AD from scratch.
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Outlook 2010 rocks though! :) Getting Calendar reminders from multiple Exchange
mailboxes is just plain awesome!!!
Tim
From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Essential Business
m*: Jon Harris
> *To*: NT System Admin Issues
> *Sent*: Thu Aug 20 13:41:39 2009
> *Subject*: Re: Mail server software
>
> Nope it is there in original 2008 as well.
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Richard Stovall <
> richard.stov...@researchdata.
Sent: Thu Aug 20 13:41:39 2009
Subject: Re: Mail server software
Nope it is there in original 2008 as well.
Jon
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Richard Stovall
mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com>>
wrote:
The key may be R2 vsoriginal��� Server 2008.
From: Ken Schaefe
d/101665/new-windows-server-back
up-features-in-windows-server-2008-r2.html
From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server software
Nope it is there in original 2008 as well.
Jon
On Thu, Aug
August 20, 2009 11:48 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Mail server software
>
>
>
> Huh?
>
>
>
>
>
> Win2k8 R2 Windows Backup is better because it goes back to granular level
> backup (not just a whole volume at a time)
>
>
>
>
I have the native backup in 2008 doing live backups of 6 VM's backups take
about 9 to 10 hours and are getting something like 760GB of data to a Lacie
1TB hard drive. Restores are more of a challenge but I am still trying to
learn the new way to do things on that server as far as backup.
Jon
On
IMHO.
Tim
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From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server software
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:28 AM, John Cook wrote:
> The new server backup utility BLOWS DONKEYS!
> You can
ystem Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
The new server backup utility BLOWS DONKEYS! You can't backup to a UNC path -
you can backup to a USB drive (I'm already doing this with NT Backup) but that
doesn't help me with it when it's running in a VM.
John W. C
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:28 AM, John Cook wrote:
> The new server backup utility BLOWS DONKEYS!
> You can't backup to a UNC path ...
Sounds like it's just like Vista, then. The one that came with Vista:
You can't even select/exclude individual files or folders. It's all
or nothing. Given
tem Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Mail server software
>
>
>
> Huh?
>
>
>
>
>
> Win2k8 R2 Windows Backup is better because it goes back to granular level
> backup (not just a whole volume at a time)
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Cook
ystems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud
From: Ken Schaefer
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Thu Aug 20 11:47:42 2009
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Huh?
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Win2k8 R2 Wind
The key may be R2 vs 'original' Server 2008.
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Huh?
Win2k8 R2 Windows Backup is better because it goes back to gran
Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
The new server backup utility BLOWS DONKEYS! You can't backup to a UNC path -
you can backup to a USB drive (I'm already doing this with NT Backup) but that
doesn't help me with it when it's running in a VM.
John W. Cook
S
Essential Business Server which is Microsoft's new-ish mid-market solution
similar to SBS for small companies.
TVK
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
EBS? Not familiar
ilies
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-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subj
EBS:
http://www.microsoft.com/ebs/en/us/default.aspx
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: 20 August 2009 14:49
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
EBS? Not familiar with that term. Can you explain? Still... considering
the cost of
e same version of Outlook?
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Your problem, John, is you've discounted, arguably, the best product on t
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Jim Majorowicz wrote:
> Exchange can be backed up natively from NTBackup quite nicely ...
Curious, as I haven't looked into this yet: What about Server 2008
and later? NTBACKUP has gone away. Are the replacements worth a
damn? I know the tools that come with
And I didn't even mention that Exchange 2010 doesn't even need OUTLOOK!
From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Your problem, John, is you've discounted, arg
he range of SBS, but not EBS. Have you priced that
as a solution?
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
I agree, I did not articulate my requirements very well. However,
Or BackupExec can now do this. (Say it was purged from deleted items).
-Original Message-
From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Yes you do. It's called Deleted
Yes you do. It's called Deleted Items Retention.
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Yes, but you don't have any way to restore *just o
Exchange skills keeping things
going :)
Dave "jack of all trades, master of zilch" Lum
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Agreed. Exchange 5.5 and Exchange 2007 are co
ob of adhering
to the exception rules that were applied.
TVK
From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Comparing Exchange today (especially vNext) to 5.5 is a really inappropriate
compa
p For Strong Families
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- Original Message -
From: Erik Goldoff
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Tue Aug 18 11:33:38 2009
Subject: RE: Mail server software
"...I take the time to teach and empower my users, most admins neither make
or take the
s in many many locations especially these last couple of
years ...
Erik Goldoff
IT Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security
-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:50 AM, John Cook wrote:
> I'm sure you've gone on a rant once or twice about how stupid
> someone was for doing something they know better than to do.
Er. Um. Who me? ;-)
Okay, guilty as charged.
> I don't think being able to restore any (as in all messages ever
riginal Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server software
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:45 PM, John Cook wrote:
> If they choose to ignor what I instruct them
> to do how is that not stu
Ben, while I understand what you're saying, the fact is that:
--- More and more enterprise software is headed in this direction of
black-box composition
--- We don't actually own the software. We own a license to use it
--- There are less people that need/want to get into the guts, and more
peo
18 August 2009 11:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server software
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Brian Desmond wrote:
> The fact that you can't edit an ESE database is _good_.
On this, we'll have to agree to disagree.
I'm of the opinion that if I own
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: Mail server software
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote:
>> Hmm - do you use a DBMS (like SQL Server or Oracle) as well?
> Actually, not really. We're small. (There
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Brian Desmond wrote:
> The fact that you can't edit an ESE database is _good_.
On this, we'll have to agree to disagree.
I'm of the opinion that if I own something, I should be able to do
anything I want with it, including break it. I also believe that (to
rectory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server software
On Mon, Aug
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:45 PM, John Cook wrote:
> If they choose to ignor what I instruct them
> to do how is that not stupid?
If it's simply a question of not following instructions, perhaps.
I may have been taking your comments in broader context than you
intended. This discussion is ba
andle a DB intensive app like
Exchange.
Sam
-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Hmm - do you use a DBMS (like SQL Server or Oracle) as well? Most of
those are bin
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
> Ultimately, it's a factor of single-instance storage.
It seems to me that, in the general case, it should be possible to
have both SIS and individual element restores. Assume SIS is
implemented as a reference counted system of blobs, wit
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote:
> Hmm - do you use a DBMS (like SQL Server or Oracle) as well?
Actually, not really. We're small. (There's a couple MSDE
instances, and a Firebird instance, all in support of various
applications, but they're more "embedded" then something
: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server software
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian Desmond wrote:
> What's the problem with the database engine? There's been a massive
> amount of engineering work in that space - I don't expect it's going anywhere.
I can
Ultimately, it's a factor of single-instance storage. The various add-on
products that facilitate the restore of a single mailbox, by and large, undo
single-instance storage.
-ASB
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> The inability to easily restore a single mailbox is not a g
properly categorize and label it.
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com
c - 312.731.3132
-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server software
I continuously coach user
et share.
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud
- Original Message -
From: Ben Scott
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Mon Aug 17 20:09:52 2009
Subject: Re: Mail server software
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:20 PM, John
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:20 PM, John Cook wrote:
> Sure, I get the point ...
I'm not sure you do...
> ... it all boils down to storage.
Or design.
The inability to easily restore a single mailbox is not a good
thing. Maybe there are tech trade-offs that make that design
limitation nece
Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Honestly, this wasn’t a ‘bug’ that needed fixing, and I don’t think I would
have had a problem doing it, but they had no problem with doing this, and he
was on the phone for a lot longer than I would think the cost of the onetime
critical ticket
onnect/thread.jspa?messageID=112
740
Has anyone run Exchange in a Cloud?
== John ==
From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Comparing Exchange today (especially vNext)
ohn Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
I agree, I did not articulate my requirements very well. However, I ass-u-med
that any admin in their right mind would want to be able to back up their mail
server. M
om my Blackberry in the Cloud
- Original Message -
From: Ben Scott
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Mon Aug 17 18:05:24 2009
Subject: Re: Mail server software
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:16 PM, John Cook wrote:
> It's called "Dumpster always on" and restore deleted items
>
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:16 PM, John Cook wrote:
> It's called "Dumpster always on" and restore deleted items
> in OWA and if they need an email they deleted past the retention
> window then it falls under the "I can't save you from your own stupidity"
> heading.
Meanwhile, another mail system
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:14 PM, John Bowles wrote:
> Anyone in their right mind would host any business centric email on a
> platform outside of Exchange, Lotus or Sendmail is just asking for trouble.
That much resistance to change is not a healthy attitude for any business.
Just ask Novell
iginal Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Yes, but you don't have any way to restore *just one message* with
NTBackup.
:-) Agree that I should have been a bit more
ent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server software
Problem may start with 1 gb storage.
It's llke Titanik - single and big
I prefer OE on XP and specially Win Mail on Vista - each message in separate
.eml file
Anatoly Podgoretsky
ht
PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Yes, but you don't have any way to restore *just one message* with
NTBackup.
:-) Agree that I should have been a bit more specific... If you want to
be
able to back up mailbox by mailbox, etc. you have to "pay to play&q
server software, no so much. :-)
-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Not to discount what you know about Exchange but...
1. I don't think any DB should be
.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:03 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Mail server software
>
> Sorry - meant to say they are the usual Open Source suspects.
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:59, Kurt Buff wrote:
>> Zimbra, OSER and Scalix are
John, this post is a peach!!!
-Original Message-
From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Anyone in their right mind would host any business centric email on a platform
outside
essage-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Yes, but you don't have any way to restore *just one message* with NTBackup.
:-) Agree that I should have been a bit more specific..
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server software
Sorry - meant to say they are the usual Open Source suspects.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:59, Kurt Buff wrote:
> Zimbra, OSER and Scalix are the usual suspects.
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 08:53, John Aldrich
> wrote:
>>
much. :-)
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:59 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mail server software
>
> Not to discount what you know about Exchange but...
> 1. I don
-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Not to discount what you know about Exchange but...
1. I don't think any DB should be scanned by an AV program that doe
Sorry... I neglected to mention, we're wanting to bring email in-house so we
*don't* have hosted email. :-)
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server soft
Sorry - meant to say they are the usual Open Source suspects.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:59, Kurt Buff wrote:
> Zimbra, OSER and Scalix are the usual suspects.
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 08:53, John Aldrich
> wrote:
>> If you don’t want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get
>>
Zimbra, OSER and Scalix are the usual suspects.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 08:53, John Aldrich wrote:
> If you don’t want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get
> that has pretty much the same functionality as Exchange, including the
> following:
>
> 1) Active Directory integra
Have you looked into Microsoft's hosted services model? All the
benefits of Exchange without having to maintain the thing.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM, John
Aldrich wrote:
> If you don’t want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get
> that has pretty much the same functionalit
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:42 PM, John
Aldrich wrote:
> Antivirus has to be told to overlook certain directories and you have
> to have an "exchange-aware" antivirus or buy a special "plugin" for
> the antivirus to allow it to scan the Exchange DB.
That's going to be true for most mail systems, t
7, 2009 2:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Exactly! That's one of my concerns... Antivirus has to be told to overlook
certain directories and you have to have an "exchange-aware" antivirus or
buy a special "plugin" for the antivirus to allow
ike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Sorry, I didn't read that part of your mind. I see no "in-house" as you
quoted. :\
--
Mike Gill
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...
Problem may start with 1 gb storage.
It's llke Titanik - single and big
I prefer OE on XP and specially Win Mail on Vista - each message in separate
.eml file
Anatoly Podgoretsky
http://www.podgoretsky.com
- Original Message -
From: "John Aldrich"
To: "NT System Admin Issues"
> On
--Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server software
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian Desmond wrote:
> What's the problem with the database engine? There's bee
ilto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Exactly! That's one of my concerns... Antivirus has to be told to
overlook
certain directories and you have to have an "exchange-aware" antivirus
or
buy a
I'm in the same boat.
I've been evaluating SmarterMail and Mailenable
(http://www.mailenable.com/). Both seem capable (but I dont have the AD
requirement - although Mailenable claims to do it.) We're moving from an old
version of IMail.
So far I like the interface for SmarterMail better but Mai
tion. :-)
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server software
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian Desmond
wrote:
> What's the problem with the database engine? There's
Sorry, I didn't read that part of your mind. I see no "in-house" as you
quoted. :\
--
Mike Gill
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Did you miss the
dized DB.
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
What's the problem with the database engine? There's been a massive amount
of engineering work i
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian Desmond wrote:
> What’s the problem with the database engine? There’s been a massive amount
> of engineering work in that space – I don’t expect it’s going anywhere.
I can't speak for the OP... but the fact that the Exchange IS is a
giant binary blob, compl
t: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Price, mainly... and some of the problems Exchange has, like the Jet database
(AIUI, they still have not done away with the Jet database!) and all the
proprietary technology behind it. One of the features
lueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:41 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Mail server software
Price, mainly… and some of the problems Exchange has, like the Jet database (AIUI, they still have not done away with the Jet database!) and all the proprietary technology beh
M
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/outlook_sync.html
Sounds like this does everything you asked for except for the AD
integration. But depending on a couple things that may not matter with this
implementation.
--
Mik
>
>
> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2009 12:06 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Mail server software
>
>
>
> Just curious – why not Exchange?
>
>
>
> *John W. Cook*
>
> *Systems Administrator*
&
601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Price, mainly... and some
l and
windows logon.
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server software
You're already looking at Kerio, so I would also recommend SmarterMail...
http://www.smarte
http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/outlook_sync.html
Sounds like this does everything you asked for except for the AD
integration. But depending on a couple things that may not matter with this
implementation.
--
Mike Gill
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.co
02 PM
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Used Mdaemon in the past and was happy with in. Good spam filtering also.
--
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:54 AM
12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Sorry hit the send too quick. Is Exchange so expensive it isn't worth
getting the extra features or is yours just a small shop? Hosted
Exchange?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Famili
.@pfsf.org]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Just curious - why not Exchange?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Sorry hit the send too quick. Is Exchange so expensive it isn't worth getting
the extra features or is yours just a small shop? Hosted Exchange?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office
How about Scalix?
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mail server software
You're already looking at Kerio, so I would also recommend
SmarterMail...
http://www.smartertools.com/Smarte
You're already looking at Kerio, so I would also recommend SmarterMail...
http://www.smartertools.com/SmarterMail/Features/Windows-Mail-Server-Software-Webmail-Exchange-Alternative.aspx
-ASB
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM, John Aldrich wrote:
> If you don’t want to pay the cost of Exchang
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From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mail server software
Just curious - why not Exchange?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnershi
I used Icewarp in the past, the features were not as good as Exchange. However
basically we stopped using it several years ago. We still have an icewarp
server but that is for sending out mail from systems. I found the software
very stable, in the years we used it we never had any problems wi
Just curious - why not Exchange?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgeca
Used Mdaemon in the past and was happy with in. Good spam filtering
also.
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mail server software
If you don't want to pay the cos
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