I have a bit more (sigh) legwork to do to finalize the lightweight TM license
that is needed to enable some kind of based on OpenSolaris or includes
OpenSolaris technology or powered by OpenSolaris tagline, that spells out
what standards need to be met in order to call yourself that.
It seems
1.For some reason, when I tried to install Solaris
onto my machine it kept freezing at the subsystem
boot screen.I read a post in the forums re:
freezing during boot and the advice was to disable
the onboard USB in the BIOS which works for my
situation too.my problem now is how do I
So, more the OS becomes my main desktop, more I want
from it. I was using the other machine to connect to
my work, but it was a hassle. So, I made VPNC work on
OS with some minor (may be not that minor, some
issues took me a long time to track) tweaks here and
there.
There was no need to
Repeat after me: Solaris is not Linux...
Correct!
And hopefully it will never be even remotely like Linux.
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Just blogged stats for the first 4 weeks. FYI. (Thanks, Patrick, for the
data.)
Expect to see the stats evolve to be more useful in the future. We also have to
figure out where on the website we will keep them. And Patrick just posted an
email late last week about the difficulties
you are illogical dude!! All I want to know if bash
is present otherwise, does it matter if safe mode has
another half a meg executable? is size the only
concern? or illogical compatibility and safety
restrictions apply here as well. work the damn
incompatibilities if it means the world to
exec /bin/ksh -o vi
As we alrerady have discussed before, this is a
really bad idea
as it may make a system unusable if /usr could not be
mounted.
Technically speaking: yes, agreed.
However, nowdays there is no need to carve up the disk into separate
FileSystems; it's not an efficient
I hope you don't do it by putting something like:
exec ksh
into .profile like many people do. This would make
your system
unusable in single user mode when /usr has not yet
been mounted
See my post above.
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3. my PCI sound card isnt detected (Creative Audigy
Platinum)
Perhaps the audio drivers from http://tools.de/solaris/audio/ will work for
you.
Or try 4front's opensound.
4. does Solaris support dial up internet connection
or is it specifically configured for ethernet only?
Yes, Solaris
For me cursor keys did work on the command line since
the beginning
of the 80's.
For me too. But then again, I used and still use /bin/tcsh from day one.
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UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Besides, bash is one of the absolute WORST ever shells. There are far
better shells, namely (pd)ksh, (t)csh, zsh and so on.
Consider this quite rudimentary example:
bash:
ls -l /tmp/ ; sleep 10
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
tcsh:
ls -l
I respectfully disagree. While it does make sense to
have fewer
--options on regular usage command lines for
convenience/speed, I think
the --options are fundamentally important for
relatively new users to
the environment and I certainly don't think you
should be alienating
them.
It's a
This is ridiculous!
So why does Solaris come with JDS/GNOME and GRUB if
it is not Linux?
Because UNIX makes a clear separation of [I]mechanism[/I] and [I]policy[/I].
Just because Solaris implements a window manager or managers popular on Linux
does not make it any more or less like Linux.
Your point being? That bash does implement some sort
of Bourne/POSIX
shell command language instead of the csh one?
Ridiculous.
I wasn't trying to make a point that bash is more or less POSIX. I was trying
to make a point that bash is not very good, contrary to the popular
[I][B]trends and
I did that for 10 years and the trouble never
came
That's OK. You're gambling, and whoever gambles is eventually bound to lose.
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It appears that the installation media did not get burned correctly.
If you have another system with cdrtools installed, use the `readcd` tool to
determine whether that is the case.
For example, on Solaris:
1. insert media into the drive
2. /etc/init.d/volmgt stop
3. cdrecord -scanbus (to
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 11:04 -0700, Daniel Johnsen wrote:
a week ago I read, that the development resources for the Java Desktop System
will be decreased,
All Sun has said is that we'll be focusing more on Solaris and less on
Linux... just like we did when we first joined the GNOME Foundation
John Plocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it important (as an architectural goal...) that we could say
runs on OpenSolaris[1]
in the face of multiple OpenSolaris based distros?
That is, if someone develops an application for Sun's Nevada release,
*should* we expect it to, at a binary
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Joerg Schilling wrote:
John Plocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it important (as an architectural goal...) that we could say
runs on OpenSolaris[1]
in the face of multiple OpenSolaris based distros?
That is, if someone develops an application for Sun's Nevada
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, UNIX admin wrote:
...
...the Linux crowd...
The Linux crowd, The UNIX crowd. Ug.
soapbox
By my experience, I'd say _at least_ 70% of the world's Linux/UNIX sys
admins and developers would put themselves in the Linux/UNIX crowd not
one or the other. The rest fall about
Gunnar Ritter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any makefile that uses $ in an explicit rule is dubtlessly broken if it
claims to be portable and authors of free software usually claim to
write portable software.
_If_ they claim that. Otherwise they rely
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Eric Boutilier wrote:
...
This is based on my attendance and
participation in about 13 Linux/UNIX conferences over the last 5 years...
Correction: That should have said 16.
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Users are asking for the wishlist like Solaris 10 X86 3ware 9000 series RAID
controller driver. I do know more people are investigating some good approaches
to make the IHVs embrace the OpenSolaris. But it's a better way to have a
community we could have more engaged or interested guys
Keith M Wesolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 06:58:24PM -0700, Jake Hamby wrote:
I just did a quick performance test of bsdtar vs. gnutar, star, and Solaris
tar in extracting a large (704MB uncompressed) .tar.bz2 archive:
In the case of compressed files, especially
Perversions is an inflammatory word. Sounds like
you might be trying
to start a fight. Are you?
Start a fight with whom? Are you offended? Do you identify yourself with
Linux?
As for perversions, Linux is perverted in many different ways, which have been
listed about a zillion-trillion
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 11:04 -0700, Daniel Johnsen
wrote:
a week ago I read, that the development resources
for the Java Desktop System will be decreased,
All Sun has said is that we'll be focusing more on
Solaris and less on
Linux... just like we did when we first joined the
GNOME
why not discuss opensolaris vs. linux from a programmers perspective?! the
main point of opensolaris/linux or any other OS is to do programming. maybe a
topic on the viability of programming opensolaris vs. linux would be useful. i
have recently installed opensolaris on my amd64 machine and
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 07:06 -0700, Bob Palowoda wrote:
Thank God Open Solaris doesn't have to worry about JDS branding
success or issues. But I have to ask which Sun-specific stuff is
or will be part of Open Solaris?
I don't think anyone knows the answer to that yet, but I'm pretty sure
That would be ideal, but might be tricky to do if he has no OS installed on the
machine in question. It could turn into a 'chicken and the egg' type of a
problem.
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Jake Hamby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay, I did a more scientific test and uncompressed the archive first.
Then I ran every version of tar at least twice (gtar three times b/c the
first two runs were so different). I ran star at the end to make sure the
results weren't getting slower
Our Solaris boxes were installed by vendor. I observed that:
1. Dump device: /dev/dsk/c1t0d0s1 (dedicated)
2. /dev/dsk/c1t0d0s1 is part of mirror /dev/md/dsk/d1
3. /dev/md/dsk/d1 is the swap
See the following script for details.
Questions:
1. I wonder why the vendor uses /dev/dsk/c1t0d0s1 as dump
Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 02:07 -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
Am I the only one that doesn't like the
--something-or-other options
of GNU related software? Please don't do this to
Solaris!
No, you're not the only one. --options are completely
I get terrible performance problems
some of the times(reported here in a separate thread
but didn't get much response from people, so assuming
that everyone is a getting a jittery USB mouse and
skipping in xmms during IO loads) and I just wanted
to see if the non-debug version performs any
Eric Boutilier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is, if someone develops an application for Sun's Nevada release,
*should* we expect it to, at a binary compatable level, just run
correctly on any other OpenSolaris-based distro?
You cannot :-(
Don't you mean: until Sun re-licenses its
Something is wrong with your setup/config. Solaris
that's what we are trying to figure out here. at least two people have said
that they can reproduce the symptoms in their setup too.
Other x86 servers ran beautifully 'out of the box',
with no tune-ups or patches required.
congrats! you are
I would just like to share with you that I recently integrated into onnv_19
fix for:
6203874 ypxfrd coredumps in x86 master/SPARC slave scenarios
The fix was contributed by Juergen Keil, from Germany.
Many thanks for your contribution Juergen !
Serge
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Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gunnar Ritter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any makefile that uses $ in an explicit rule is dubtlessly broken if it
claims to be portable and authors of free software usually claim to
write portable software.
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/18/05, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It appears that the installation media did not get burned correctly.
If you have another system with cdrtools installed, use the `readcd`
tool to
UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your point being? That bash does implement some sort
of Bourne/POSIX
shell command language instead of the csh one?
Ridiculous.
I wasn't trying to make a point that bash is more or less POSIX.
No, you were claiming (you should not have removed the
On 7/18/05, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/18/05, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It appears that the installation media did not get burned correctly.
If you have another system
is there such a beast? ccache works but only with cc, not with CC.
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Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This statement does not help, it is no longer needed since 18 months.
Ok, I'll put it this way. Using the version of cdrtools as distributed
by blastwave.org, I cannot do cdrecord -scanbus without disabling
volmgt first. blastwave.org reports these as
you are way off. I had heard about OS fanatics but I am seeing a real one now.
I have been(will always be) a solaris lover forever, but have never closed my
mind to other OS's and their merits, ever.
linux is a pretty darn good OS and getting better everyday, with lots of hard
working and
Adding insult to injury, I used to consider Linux
UNIX, until foaming-at-their-mouth Linux advocates
kept correcting me that Linux IS NOT UNIX.
ha ha haa...you got burnt by a linux fanatic...this is fun!!
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Dennis Clarke wrote:
On 7/18/05, Serge Dussud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would just like to share with you that I recently integrated into onnv_19
fix for:
6203874 ypxfrd coredumps in x86 master/SPARC slave scenarios
The fix was contributed by Juergen Keil, from Germany.
Many thanks for your
On 7/18/05, Gunnar Ritter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gunnar Ritter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any makefile that uses $ in an explicit rule is dubtlessly broken if it
claims to be portable and authors of
Actually, the best interface would be the good old usenet. Granted, there
is already usenet-like interface through gmane.org, but that one is read
only. Can we please employ our newsreaders for opensolaris discussion
groups? I would say that, although that might sound a bit strict, if
usenet
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Sunil wrote:
is everyone happy with the way this forum/mailing list works? thank god
I am not on the mailing list, otherwise I would be seeing so much of
c**p (although, that way I won't be losing track of some the issues that
I am interested in). And I feel sorry for
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 09:14:19AM -0700, Sunil wrote:
is there such a beast? ccache works but only with cc, not with CC.
Do you know what about CC breaks in ccache? Please consider taking
this to tools-discuss instead of the big list; it's likely to be of
significant interest. It probably
On 7/18/05, Jake Hamby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay, I did a more scientific test and uncompressed the archive first.
FIRSTLY : This is great work ! Really !
I am sooo happy to see someone actually perform and experiment and
then provide data.
Test system: 2.8GHz Pentium 4, 512MB
is everyone happy with the way this forum/mailing list works? thank god I am
not on the mailing list, otherwise I would be seeing so much of c**p (although,
that way I won't be losing track of some the issues that I am interested in).
And I feel sorry for people on the list because I have
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 05:18:06PM -0700, Bob
Palowoda wrote:
So it would be an advantage to OpenSolaris
developers to have a list
of such private interfaces as not to consider
developing any software
that has a dependency.
All interfaces are Private unless marked otherwise.
All
On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 01:01:09AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
No, Nevada is the engineering name for the development version of the
whole Sun-Solaris.
Then it is currently impossible to be binary compatible with it.
That should not be true, as concerns public interfaces.
What you
On 7/18/05, Bob Palowoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was hoping for none and call it a day.
Some of the patches if they can't go upstream are
definitely
desireable. They include somewhat important things
like support for
SUN specific keyboard mappings, extensions to allow
CDE users to
Claire Giordano wrote:
...
Small request: I think, in the interests of attribution, making things
personal, using authentic voice and all that - it would be great if all
the announcements could be signed. The way the announcements work,
there is no From value so you can't tell who wrote it
Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 01:01:09AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
No, Nevada is the engineering name for the development version of the
whole Sun-Solaris.
Then it is currently impossible to be binary compatible with it.
That should not be true, as concerns public
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, the best interface would be the good old usenet. Granted, there
is already usenet-like interface through gmane.org, but that one is read
only. Can we please employ our newsreaders for opensolaris discussion
groups? I would say that, although that might sound
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Glynn Foster wrote:
Hey,
... I see a similar trend in Linux attempting to be birthed even now:
http://www.componentizedlinux.org/. The idea of a similar project
being birthed for OpenSolaris is an exciting thing to me...
I second that, bigtime. So my instincts
On 7/18/05, Sunil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this to tools-discuss instead of the big list; it's
likely to be of
no tools-discuss here: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/index.jspa ...:(
Look here:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/discussions/
--
Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
On 7/18/05, Jürgen Keil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It appears that the installation media did not get burned correctly.Yep. If you have another system with cdrtools installed, use the `readcd` tool to determine whether that is
the case.It would be even better to check the media using the same
Thank you for your warning of savecore -L. I am going to do dumpadm -d swap.
Victor
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