Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Having returned from the trip to USA, my boss pointed out that I spoke rather harsh language. Here is an example. I would say something like I suggest that we do so and so and according to my boss I suggest was interpreted specifically as an order, not as a suggestion or as an indication of one

PESO -- Got the lead out.

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Some may remember these old pumps that were just left beside the road when the service station that they were part of was abandoned. I did quite a few shots of them on several different occasions. After a couple of years this particular image, that I didn't bother to convert from the raw

Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 01/02/2010, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Having returned from the trip to USA, my boss pointed out that I spoke rather harsh language. Here is an example. I would say something like I suggest that we do so and so and according to my boss I suggest was interpreted specifically as

RE: PESO -- Got the lead out.

2010-02-01 Thread Bob W
Some may remember these old pumps that were just left beside the road when the service station that they were part of was abandoned. I did quite a few shots of them on several different occasions. After a couple of years this particular image, that I didn't bother to convert from the

Re: eyepiece rubber

2010-02-01 Thread John Francis
That's what I paid for mine. Bought together with some other fairly expensive part - possibly the battery carrier for a D-BG. The eyecup on my K10D kept getting separated when I put the camera back in my bag. Eventually I lost it completely, so when I bought a replacement I bought a spare as

Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread AlunFoto
It's the curse of not being native English speakers. It _can_ be a source of misunderstandings, but in general I believe both brits and americans are more forgiving than your boss would have you think. Especially about business/science/problem-solving/etc. topics. That's my experience anyway. To

Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread eckinator
what rob said just relax, you're probably just fine cheers ecke 2010/2/1 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com: On 01/02/2010, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Having returned from the trip to USA, my boss pointed out that I spoke rather harsh language. Here is an example. I would say

Re: eyepiece rubber

2010-02-01 Thread Tim Bray
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The little rubber shade that goes on the eyepiece dojobber on my k20 has gotten torn mostly off. Any particular recommendations on where to get a replacement? Um, what's it for? Why is one needed? -T -- PDML

RE: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread Bob W
Having returned from the trip to USA, my boss pointed out that I spoke rather harsh language. Here is an example. I would say something like I suggest that we do so and so and according to my boss I suggest was interpreted specifically as an order, not as a suggestion or as an

Re: eyepiece rubber

2010-02-01 Thread eckinator
2010/2/1 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: Anybody got a spare they're willing to sell for less than that? I have an older one still kicking around with an asymmetric eyecup for right eye shooters - you can have it for free if you pay postage cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread Bob W
To me, smalltalk is where intonation suddenly conveys strange and unfathomable things.OTOH, that could speak more about the shortness of my social antennae than anything else, I guess. :-) Jostein It's been the sole topic of conversation here since your last visit... Bob -- PDML

Re: PESO - More snow

2010-02-01 Thread David Mann
On Feb 1, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Christian wrote: Luckily I didn't have to drive 9 hours through it like the last time. http://tinyurl.com/y9zgnqk http://tinyurl.com/y8u3h3j I recently saw most of an exhibition of the Japanese artist Yayoi Kusama... that first photo reminds me of one of her

Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread mike wilson
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Having returned from the trip to USA, my boss pointed out that I spoke rather harsh language. Here is an example. I would say something like I suggest that we do so and so and according to my boss I suggest was interpreted specifically as an

Re: PESO -- Got the lead out.

2010-02-01 Thread Toine
They look very old. I would like to see more! Toine On 1 February 2010 09:10, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Some may remember these old pumps that were just left beside the road when the service station that they were part of was abandoned.  I did quite a few shots of them on

Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/1 Bob W p...@web-options.com: To me, smalltalk is where intonation suddenly conveys strange and unfathomable things.OTOH, that could speak more about the shortness of my social antennae than anything else, I guess. :-) Jostein It's been the sole topic of conversation here since your

Re: PESO - Projection

2010-02-01 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:52 -0800, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: A backlit stained glass window projected onto a wall in Christ Church Cathedral, Oxford. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10603019 That's really interesting. I agree with Tim that a bit of cropping at the top

OT - The September Issue

2010-02-01 Thread Derby Chang
Am aware fashion photography can skirt the borders of trivial, and many honoured members of this list dismiss it as such. But I highly recommend The September Issue for a highly entertaining 90min of viewing Despite what I've read, Anna Wintour comes across as rather human and astute. She

Re: PDML Photo Annual 2008-2009 request

2010-02-01 Thread Derby Chang
Cotty wrote: If the documentary is commissioned then it will all have to be shot again from scratch so perhaps everyone will get a chance to be in it. Timescale-wise, I think its doubtful that it would happen this year, but never say never. It runs 12 minutes and can be found here:

Elements 2 ??

2010-02-01 Thread David J Brooks
Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant. Any tips Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada --

Re: Elements 2 ??

2010-02-01 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant. Any tips This tutorial seems to be for a later version of Elements,

Re: Elements 2 ??

2010-02-01 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Brian. I have forwarded that on to Harry. There are *some* at the old work place i don't mind helping out, but only some.:-) Dave On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Just

Re: eyepiece rubber

2010-02-01 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-01-31 23:53, Larry Colen wrote: The little rubber shade that goes on the eyepiece dojobber on my k20 has gotten torn mostly off. Any particular recommendations on where to get a replacement? I just ordered one from Pentax. It was a little expensive, as I recall. Then I went out and

Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-02-01 3:05, Boris Liberman wrote: I would say something like I suggest that we do so and so and according to my boss I suggest was interpreted specifically as an order, not as a suggestion or as an indication of one option among several possible courses of action. 1. Is indeed this

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
It is not unreasonable for a customer to purchase electronics items at a 50% discount. I receive numerous advertisements of such on a daily basis from a variety of online electronic retailers. If I found it on BH's website I would take it at face value. To imply the customer knowingly tried to

Re: mangling the subject lines

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
Damn it Bill. Stop that! On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:46 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: mangling the subject lines I think that it might be William Robb's mail program that keeps prepending [SPAM] to the subject line of every

Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
Boris, If I had said exactly what you said, I would feel exactly as you feel. When one specifically states that something is a suggestion, I don't know how it can be interpreted otherwise unless it is almost deliberately misinterpreted. Words are chosen, usually with the intent of accurately

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
Not their record on this. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:14 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Jan 31, 2010, at 6:29 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I understand where BH is coming from.  However now I don't know if I can take any contract they make seriously.  Right now for example

Geso Haiti fund raiser at Pause Awhile Equestrian Centre

2010-02-01 Thread David J Brooks
Hi all. Here are some photos from the Pause Awhile Equestrian Centre fund raiser for the Red Cross efforts in Haiti . Photo 1850: Emma Woods and Gizzo jumping a fence Photo 1697: Simone Say's winners, it was a tie.(Princess Division) Photo 1711: Egg and Spoon participant (Queen Bee Division) not

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread P N Stenquist
On Feb 1, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Tom C wrote: Not their record on this. On this is key here. It's one case out of perhaps millions. The experience of those who have dealt with BH extensively for decades carries much more weight in my opinion. The BH folks are not soft and cuddly types.

Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks everyone who replied. The issue is much clearer to me now! -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Roberts
P N Stenquist wrote: On Feb 1, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Tom C wrote: Not their record on this. On this is key here. Precisely. It's one case out of perhaps millions. Not perhaps millions, *definitely* millions. Obsessing on this single case in the face of overwhelmingly positive experiences is

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
Not to beat a dead horse. I have no argument with how they handle the majority of transactions. There's no doubt they go off smoothly. A product is accurately advertised, the customer understands what they're purchasing, the product is onhand, delivered in a timely manner and in excellent

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
It's not paranoid. I never expect a transaction to go south. This is an interesting insight into how BH apparently chooses to handle things in the case of a misunderstanding, one that they inadvertently caused. We each have the right to our own opinions, and I'm not alone in the one I hold.

Re: Elements 2 ??

2010-02-01 Thread Paul Sorenson
He could also save it as a png, which also supports transparency, but retains a larger color range. -p On 2/1/2010 6:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com wrote: Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is

Re: eyepiece rubber

2010-02-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Imagine you wear eye-glasses and don't want to scratch their plastic lenses. Bob S. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The little rubber shade that goes on the eyepiece dojobber on my k20 has

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote: It's not paranoid. I never expect a transaction to go south. This is an interesting insight into how BH apparently chooses to handle things in the case of a misunderstanding, one that they inadvertently caused. We each have the right to our own opinions, and I'm not alone in the

English, American version

2010-02-01 Thread Morris Galloway
I suggest versus Perhaps we could proceed One American's analysis. Among general professionals in the central U.S. If Boris Liberman is in upper management speaking to those in middle management, then I suggest would have 10% more of the Imperative. Among peers it would be perceived as

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
Clearly Mark, both you and Paul are cherry-picking as I've explicitly acknowledged that the majority of most BH transactions go smoothly. We just had a similar topic on the justice system. It works most of the time, but when it doesn't then what? This was never about 'BH - Millions of Good

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote: Clearly Mark, both you and Paul are cherry-picking as I've explicitly acknowledged that the majority of most BH transactions go smoothly. We just had a similar topic on the justice system. It works most of the time, but when it doesn't then what? This was never about 'BH -

Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris, I think you have ventured into the tricky landscape of selling your ideas to people. I suspect Tom C. is very right about what 'tone' and manner you used. 'I suggest' is pretty direct language from a vendor to a client. 'You might want to think about doing something like this...' or 'One

Re: English, American version

2010-02-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Morris, The diplomacy and diplomatic language references are completely appropriate. That's what this all comes down to. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Morris Galloway morris-gallo...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I suggest versus Perhaps we could proceed One American's analysis.

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-02-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Faster lenses are good and the 77/1.8 limited is still for sale. Either Pentax 85/1.4 is rare to find. And the A*135/1.8 is made of 'unobtanium'. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Sandy Harris sandyinch...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/1/10, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

Re: PESO -- Got the lead out.

2010-02-01 Thread ann sanfedele
Bob W wrote: Some may remember these old pumps that were just left beside the road when the service station that they were part of was abandoned. I did quite a few shots of them on several different occasions. After a couple of years this particular image, that I didn't bother to convert

Re: Geso Haiti fund raiser at Pause Awhile Equestrian Centre

2010-02-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave, What a nice thing to do! I love the Dragon and Princess. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:02 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. Here are some photos from the Pause Awhile Equestrian Centre fund raiser for the Red Cross efforts in Haiti . Photo 1850: Emma

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
We were not engaged in a statistical study of BH transaction history. We were provided with one, and only one, example of *how BH resolves disputes*. One that they were responsible for. That *one example of dispute resolution* was not promising from the customer point of view. Counter-example:

Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
What are you suggesting Bob? :-) On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, I think you have ventured into the tricky landscape of selling your ideas to people. I suspect Tom C. is very right about what 'tone' and manner you used. 'I suggest' is pretty

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:58 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I am sorry Igor is disappointed by our response to the customer who thought he was buying two $250.00 speakers due to an inadvertent error on our site. Any customer knowledgeable about the product would have

Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread Thomas Bohn
Moin, One of my English teachers in school warned us about the usage of the word Sir, because as non-native speakers we could hit the wrong tone w/o even knowing it. And now I just have to bring in the future EU energy commissioner Günther Öttinger and his attempt to speak English in public:

Re: English, American version

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
If it's wrong to be politically incorrect, why is politics so screwed up? Tom C. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Morris, The diplomacy and diplomatic language references are completely appropriate. That's what this all comes down to. Regards,  Bob

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
Go buy all the stock you can afford and then sell them on eBbay as gray market items without the usual mfr. warranty. Tom C. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:58 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I am sorry Igor is

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
Some studies have been done showing that statistically, pricing errors are preponderantly in favor of the seller not the purchaser. I remember that any time an error occurs in my favor, because I usually don't pay attention. I had this happen 3 times that I know of in the last 5 years, once just

Re: English, American version

2010-02-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Morris Galloway Subject: English, American version Wow! Perhaps English is becoming a language similar to (Diplomatic) French. Zut Alors! The difference is that one can still get one's point across in English if one chooses succinct language. This

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P N Stenquist Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I On Feb 1, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Tom C wrote: Not their record on this. On this is key here. It's one case out of perhaps millions. The experience of those who have dealt with BH extensively for

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Matthew Hunt Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I This past Saturday at a local store, I purchased a $95 Calphalon skillet for $36, and an $80 set of Schott-Zwiesel stemware for $11. Thanks to Henry, I now appreciate that I should have realized

Re: English, American version

2010-02-01 Thread Jack Davis
Language spins to suit a point of view. (usually with the help of the media.) Jack --- On Mon, 2/1/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: English, American version To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 8:14 AM If

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote: We were not engaged in a statistical study of BH transaction history. Which is why our conclusions have little validity. That's the point. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Matthew Hunt wrote: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:58 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I am sorry Igor is disappointed by our response to the customer who thought he was buying two $250.00 speakers due to an inadvertent error on our site. Any customer knowledgeable about the

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
Our (or my) conclusion in this one instance has merit, and that's how the thread started... this one instance. 99% of all business transactions go well. But if you personally were in the 1% who had a bad experience somewhere, would you likely shop there again because you knew the odds were in

Re: English, American version

2010-02-01 Thread Jack Davis
Succinct takes all the fun out of the language performance and disallows the speaker to clarify their meaning in a tutorial manner. I'm impatient with wordiness, so had best end this. ;) Jack --- On Mon, 2/1/10, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: From: William Robb war...@gmail.com

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote: Our (or my) conclusion in this one instance has merit, and that's how the thread started... this one instance. 99% of all business transactions go well. But if you personally were in the 1% who had a bad experience somewhere, would you likely shop there again because you knew the

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: But refusing to do business there based on a sample-size of one other customer, about whom I know nothing, is irrational. One guy complaining on the Internet is one thing. A high-level representative of the company

Re: peso mushroom and petal

2010-02-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
This one feels too busy - I just don't really pick out a subject. The shallow DOF forces my eyes to certain items, but none really stands out as a subject. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, January 31, 2010, 11:59:00 PM, you wrote: LC Zab was just commenting, out of the blue, on how much she

Re: English, American version

2010-02-01 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-01 08:10 , Morris Galloway wrote: I suggest versus Perhaps we could proceed One American's analysis. Among general professionals in the central U.S. If Boris Liberman is in upper management speaking to those in middle management, then I suggest would have 10% more of the

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Matthew Hunt Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I A high-level representative of the company insulting my intelligence by claiming that 50%-off sales do not exist is another. Posner's just the waterboy for them. I suspect if he was high

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Matthew Hunt wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: But refusing to do business there based on a sample-size of one other customer, about whom I know nothing, is irrational. One guy complaining on the Internet is one thing. A high-level

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
If I see the way customer A is treated, whether I am customer B or customer ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP... they displayed a certain attitude towards their customer, even though the circumstances were not the norm with the innacurate product description. If I'm walking down the street and see a barking dog

Re: English, American version

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
As a consultant I tend to present options and then suggest the one I personally feel is best. I make it a rule never to say things more than twice, because the client is 'always right'. If I have an idea I express it once. If I feel strongly about, I express it a second time. A third time

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/1/2010 12:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Matthew Hunt wrote: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:58 PM, P N Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I am sorry Igor is disappointed by our response to the customer who thought he was buying two $250.00 speakers due to an inadvertent error on

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Joseph Tainter
A few years ago I had a gripe about BH, a minor thing really, a screw-up in their computer system. When I complained, Mr. Posner sent me a couple of emails that I found insulting. He blamed me for their computer problem. So I just got even: For the next two or three years I bought lenses from

Re: Elements 2 ??

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's available. On 2/1/2010 7:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com wrote: Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
and Cotty is responsible for making an 85mm A* f1.4 into an M... On 2/1/2010 10:54 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Faster lenses are good and the 77/1.8 limited is still for sale. Either Pentax 85/1.4 is rare to find. And the A*135/1.8 is made of 'unobtanium'. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at

Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Antennae? I always thought you were and earthly alien. On 2/1/2010 3:46 AM, AlunFoto wrote: It's the curse of not being native English speakers. It _can_ be a source of misunderstandings, but in general I believe both brits and americans are more forgiving than your boss would have you think.

Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
I wouldn't be too hard on him, he's a bureaucrat, he's probably unintelligible in German as well... On 2/1/2010 11:13 AM, Thomas Bohn wrote: Moin, One of my English teachers in school warned us about the usage of the word Sir, because as non-native speakers we could hit the wrong tone w/o

Re: English, American version

2010-02-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks, Morris. This is fascinating analysis. Here is my situation. I came as an engineer (think - Dilbert) along with the project manager (mid-to-high management, also non-native speaker, but probably more experienced in this specific kind of verbal kung-fu) and worked with both my parallels

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
It's possible to be brusque and not treat your customers like idiots. On 2/1/2010 12:59 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: A few years ago I had a gripe about BH, a minor thing really, a screw-up in their computer system. When I complained, Mr. Posner sent me a couple of emails that I found insulting.

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
New York City, or not, it's no excuse for treating a customer rudely, brusquely, or without esteem. It would otherwise be called just plain bad manners. It belies a general attitude towards the customer. It's an attitude that lies beneath the surface, unseen and undetected on the thousands and

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
...bag of hair seems to be inaccurate, ...box of rocks seems more appropriate. On 2/1/2010 12:46 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Matthew Hunt wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: But refusing to do business there based on a sample-size of one

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Tom C
P.J., you needn't act like H.P., now, come on. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:40 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: ...bag of hair  seems to be inaccurate, ...box of rocks seems more appropriate. On 2/1/2010 12:46 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Matthew Hunt wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010

Re: peso mushroom and petal

2010-02-01 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 1, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: This one feels too busy - I just don't really pick out a subject. The shallow DOF forces my eyes to certain items, but none really stands out as a subject. That's a very good analysis of it, thanks. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday,

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
You're taking away all my fun... :-( On 2/1/2010 1:38 PM, Tom C wrote: P.J., you needn't act like H.P., now, come on. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:40 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: ...bag of hair seems to be inaccurate, ...box of rocks seems more appropriate. On 2/1/2010

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Here's a thought experiment: What would you do if you went to the BH web site right now and saw a Pentax K7 listed for $514.00? If I were in the market for a K7 I might try to get it for that price. In fact, if the Sony A850 showed up on BH for $1000 I'd hit the Buy button so fast there'd be

Re: Elements 2 ??

2010-02-01 Thread ann sanfedele
P. J. Alling wrote: PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's available. Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go on dark objects) and you get the full color range. ann On 2/1/2010 7:34 AM, Brian Walters

Re: Elements 2 ??

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Roberts
ann sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's available. Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go on dark objects) and you get the full color range. They aren't completely

RE: English, American version

2010-02-01 Thread Bob W
Thanks, Morris. This is fascinating analysis. Here is my situation. I came as an engineer (think - Dilbert) along with the project manager (mid-to-high management, also non-native speaker, but probably more experienced in this specific kind of verbal kung-fu) and worked with both my

KX question

2010-02-01 Thread Nick David Wright
Okay, I have another question concerning the KX. Is the JPG rendering of the KX any better than the K100Super? I never liked the quality of the JPGs straight out of the K100S. -- ~Nick David Wright -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: English, American version

2010-02-01 Thread Bob W
i tend to look at etymology when pondering such questions -- i see that the Latin roots of 'suggest' mean bring from below; in my eyes, this makes 'suggest' a good, humble term Either that or an idea you just pulled out of your ass... Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: English, American version

2010-02-01 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-01 12:53 , Bob W wrote: i tend to look at etymology when pondering such questions -- i see that the Latin roots of 'suggest' mean bring from below; in my eyes, this makes 'suggest' a good, humble term Either that or an idea you just pulled out of your ass... well i guess we have

Re: PESO -- Got the lead out.

2010-02-01 Thread Walter Hamler
Perhaps a better title Passed Gas Walt On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:10 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Some may remember these old pumps that were just left beside the road when the service station that they were part of was abandoned.  I did quite a few shots of them on

RE: English, American version

2010-02-01 Thread Bob W
Wow! Perhaps English is becoming a language similar to (Diplomatic) French. Zut Alors! The difference is that one can still get one's point across in English if one chooses succinct language. This has never been the case with French. Mes couilles! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Graph of the stages of a photographer

2010-02-01 Thread Larry Colen
http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/download.php?id=84625 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

RE: Question of English, American and otherwise

2010-02-01 Thread Bob W
Moin, One of my English teachers in school warned us about the usage of the word Sir, because as non-native speakers we could hit the wrong tone w/o even knowing it. And now I just have to bring in the future EU energy commissioner Günther Öttinger and his attempt to speak English

Re: Graph of the stages of a photographer

2010-02-01 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 1, 2010, at 14:14, Larry Colen wrote: http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/download.php?id=84625 Love it. I don't 100% understand all of the notation, but the general gist of it works for me! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN

Re: KX question

2010-02-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
My reading of the DPReview K-x review seems that it is better. They have never been too kind on Pentax jpg rendering engines in the past, but seeemed to think it was fine for the K-x. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxkx/ -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, February 1, 2010, 11:56:33 AM, you

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
It's not catching it before you got the camera, it's: 1.) You see the unbelievable price for the K-7 and you hit buy, 2.) You give them your credit card number, 3.) They debit your credit card, 4.) They mail you a link to an online receipt that shows you bought a K-7. Now comes conjecture

Re: Elements 2 ??

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
PNG has a lot of overhead, and are much larger than the equivalent Gif. Makes for a slow loading web page if you don't need them. On 2/1/2010 2:45 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's

Re: Elements 2 ??

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/1/2010 2:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's available. Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go on dark objects) and

Re: KX question

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/1/2010 2:56 PM, Nick David Wright wrote: Okay, I have another question concerning the KX. Is the JPG rendering of the KX any better than the K100Super? I never liked the quality of the JPGs straight out of the K100S. From the reviews I've read it's supposed to be. --

Re: PESO -- Got the lead out.

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
I decided to take Ann's advice and try black and white. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/gottheleadoutb%26w.html Notes: Same technical data, but the rendition looked a little washed out on my laptop, and not exactly what I intended, so I darkened it a bit over all and kicked up the

Re: Graph of the stages of a photographer

2010-02-01 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 1, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Feb 1, 2010, at 14:14, Larry Colen wrote: http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/download.php?id=84625 Love it. I don't 100% understand all of the notation, but the general gist of it works for me! I'm not sure what they mean by

Re: Graph of the stages of a photographer

2010-02-01 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:14 -0800, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/download.php?id=84625 I think I'm in the 'Dammit, I suck' stage. Assuming the time scale of the graph is based on a 'three score and ten' life span, I may be sucking for some time

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