RE: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
8, 2004 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) My point JCO, is that I never shot Tech Pan before so why would I start now? And why would I compare it to the *ist D? Apples and Oranges. Even I can see that. I implied that the D replaced film *for me*

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-18 Thread Bill Owens
004 8:44 AM Subject: Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) > I sold ALL my film bodies (6 cameras: LX, 3x MX, P3 and SuperProgram) to buy > my *ist D. I knew I'd never use film again! ;-) > > Christian Skofteland > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - Original Message

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Don Sanderson
e- > From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is > Dying) > > > my observations while scanning a lot of slides, mostly Provia 100F. >

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-18 Thread Christian Skofteland
My point JCO, is that I never shot Tech Pan before so why would I start now? And why would I compare it to the *ist D? Apples and Oranges. Even I can see that. I implied that the D replaced film *for me* and the way *I* make pictures. I make no assumptions for other people and their styles. Ch

RE: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To > Then how do you do hi-res B&W ? u I don't? Did I before digital?

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-18 Thread Christian Skofteland
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To > Then how do you do hi-res B&W ? u I don't? Did I before digital? hm, nope! ;-) > rhetorical question no answer expected. oops! > 6MP DSLRs still cant match fine grain BW 35mm film (yet). Well i

RE: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) I sold ALL my film bodies (6 cameras: LX, 3x MX, P3 and SuperProgram) to buy my *ist D. I knew I'd never use film again! ;-) Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Mark Roberts
"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'll be more disappointed than ever if they start fixing areas of the lens >line-up where it 'aint broke before they fix where it is i.e. down the wide/fast >end. Frankly, I have no problem with Pentax's lens lineup at all. I suppose I'd rather like a f

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-18 Thread Christian Skofteland
I sold ALL my film bodies (6 cameras: LX, 3x MX, P3 and SuperProgram) to buy my *ist D. I knew I'd never use film again! ;-) Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So who here has shed their excess film bodies in view of t

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Herb Chong
.. - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) > What makes you say this Herb? > > All my primes but for the FA24/2 seem up to the task.

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jul 2004 at 14:12, Dario Bonazza wrote: > Just wait a few weeks and you'll see... I'll be more disappointed than ever if they start fixing areas of the lens line- up where it 'aint broke before they fix where it is i.e. down the wide/fast end. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Dario Bonazza
Alan Chan wrote: > Some news from Taiwan retailers (or just rumour) suggested some Pentax FA > lenses were not manufactured anymore (like FA100/2.8 & FA50/2.8 etc) because > they are expecting new lenses to replace them. But then again, nobody can > confirm. Just wait a few weeks and you'll see..

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-18 Thread Herb Chong
well, let's just say that i'm not optomistic either. Herb - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 6:23 AM Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying > Ain't gonna

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jul 2004 at 7:41, Herb Chong wrote: > the ones that are paying attention to their images will discover that the > practical and affordable lenses are not good enough for the *istD. the lens > quality matters even more with a DSLR than with a film camera. What makes you say this Herb? All m

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Herb Chong
ROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 8:19 PM Subject: RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) > I guess most DSLR buyers are looking for practical and affordable lenses, > instead of luxury lenses like the Limited which really aim for manual focus > buyers.

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/7/04, Herb Chong, discombobulated, offered: >i'm giving them until October to promise a high end DSLR body and a couple >of lenses of FA* quality with DA features. if not then, i can't wait and >continue to lose photos that i haven't been able to get purely because of >hardware limitations.

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Bill Owens
Bill - Original Message - From: "Antonio Aparicio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) > Also, an angle not mentioned is the renewed interest folks are having >

RE: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Paul Ewins
I know I should sell the LX and MZ5n, but just can't bring myself to do it. I recently shot a couple of rolls of HP5 in the MX with the 50/1.2 and the results reminded me of why I enjoy B&W portraiture so much. The *ist-D is the default choice for colour. I don't expect I'll ever buy another 35mm c

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread graywolf
Boy, do I have news for you. -- El Gringo wrote: will be like putting diesel fuel in the space shuttle, a serious waste of powerful hardware. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-17 Thread John Francis
> > >Why not an DA Limited series ? > > I guess most DSLR buyers are looking for practical and affordable lenses, > instead of luxury lenses like the Limited which really aim for manual focus > buyers. Manual focus good - auto-focus bad. Manual focus good - auto-focus bad. Film-based SLR good

RE: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread El Gringo
powerful hardware. -el gringo -Original Message- From: David Miers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 8:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying? I mean, how many owners of the *istD wish that they could > put a roll of film in it as well? > I don

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Herb Chong
4 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) > (I'm pretty sure I read this here as well as hearing it word-of-mouth, so it > should be in the archives -- anyway, some of the folks on this list are in the > business and would know if that's the trend. Including at

RE: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread El Gringo
the UTMOST quality, MF is the promised land. -el gringo -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying? On 17 Jul 2004 at 12:08, El Gringo wrote: > And Antonio, people do know thin

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-17 Thread Herb Chong
the baby D is so far the only concrete move in that direction that has been formally announced. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-17 Thread Herb Chong
--- From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 8:08 AM Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying > I think the *ist D main purpose is to provide Pentax with a DSLR (like the MD-S function) and thereby signalize to the market that the comp

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Herb Chong
ly 17, 2004 3:50 AM Subject: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) > So who here has shed their excess film bodies in view of the pending fate of > film? > > I have, I'm down to the smallest number of film bodies I've had for many years > and I don't expect the number to ever increase either.

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-17 Thread Herb Chong
like i said in other posts, what they say, what they promised last year, and what they are doing, seem to be three different things. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Otis Wright" <"rusty."@att.net> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 200

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-17 Thread Alan Chan
Why not an DA Limited series ? I guess most DSLR buyers are looking for practical and affordable lenses, instead of luxury lenses like the Limited which really aim for manual focus buyers. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ MS

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Jul 2004 at 21:04, Nick Clark wrote: > There's still no substitute in quality terms for projecting transparencies. Sure but I don't project slides and if I do I can always get an 8k line slide written from any digitized image. I had a Polaroid 4k film printer for some years but sold it re

RE: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Rob Studdert
Kevin Waterson wrote: > On the contrary, I am buying up film bodies. I agree that market forces will be > the demise of film. But I think film will survive, albeit on a smaller scale. > Ilford are reporting an increase in sales of Black and White products. I think > as the lemming consumers gobble

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Jul 2004 at 20:53, Antonio Aparicio wrote: > Also, an angle not mentioned is the renewed interest folks are having > in photography generally as a result of digital- perhaps it will be the > saviour of film and not the other way around... I see your point but often I expect that the migra

RE: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread David Miers
cio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 2:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) > > > Also, an angle not mentioned is the renewed interest folks are having > in photography generally as a result of digital- perha

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-17 Thread Bob W
Hi, >> >> I've heard that there will be wonderful things announced, though not >> necessarily shown, at the Ulan Bator show. > Mongolia? Is this a first? Sounds liike it might be... Pentax announce hordes of new products there. The local people have a real 'khan do' attitude. I'm hoping to make

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>Perhaps when it reaches adultery ... > > > > > > Say > > WHAT???!! > > I'm not sure he meant quite that... > > Sounds like Archie Bunker! Actually, it was Radar O'rielly from M.A.S.H Kevin -- __

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/7/04, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, offered: >What's a Cotty? Did he convert to Canonism? Fraid so. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-17 Thread Thibouille
Why not an DA Limited series ? -Message d'origine- De : Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : samedi 17 juillet 2004 22:23 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) I read the patent for the 118/2.4 too last year b

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-17 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004, Alan Chan wrote: > saving money for DSLRs and digital lenses now. 87/2.4 is just too close to > FA77 and would be a mistake imho. Why? Was it a mistake to have 50s at 1.4, 1.7 and 2.8 at the same time? I thought macros (like the 87 Paal is talking about) are a different ball

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-17 Thread Alan Chan
The next installments of DSLR's from Pentax is perhaps the "real" thing developed to sell in quantities. It is possible considered Pentax used to be slow to upgrade their cameras. K series, (the 1st bayonet K mount system), MX (fully mechanical high end body when everyone was doing electronics),

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-17 Thread Alan Chan
I read the patent for the 118/2.4 too last year but it doesn't make sense for Pentax ro release another expensive Limited lens consider the last one (FA31/1.8) hasn't sold that well. This is especially true when people are saving money for DSLRs and digital lenses now. 87/2.4 is just too close t

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Not being inmate with the finances of Leica and Co. cant comment on whether they could have afforded to produce their own digital backs - sounds like they must really be in the financial doldrums if true. Personally it is a solution I like (apart from the cable). Lets hope that the 645 DSLR at l

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Nick Clark
There's still no substitute in quality terms for projecting transparencies. Nick -Original Message- From: "Rob Studdert"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 17/07/04 14:42:04 My *ist D seems to be teamed up with my Mamiya MF gear quite often but 35mm film holds little appeal for m

RE: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Jens Bladt
PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. juli 2004 20:53 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) Also, an angle not mentioned is the renewed interest folks are having in photograp

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Keith Whaley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Jul 2004, at 16:03, Kevin Waterson apparently wrote: .. Perhaps when it reaches adultery ... Say WHAT???!! I'm not sure he meant quite that... Sounds like Archie Bunker! keith

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Thibouille" Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying > Do you know when this show does take place ? I think the next one is April 1st, 2014 It's a joke. William Robb > > - Original Message - > From: "Otis Wright" >

RE: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread El Gringo
TECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying? Well Gringo, given that nobody knows anything about it you make some big statements. My point about flexibility related to the Hasselblad and Mamiya systems ability to take film and digital backs. Antonio On 17 Jul 2004, at 18:43, El Gringo wrote: > Ant

RE: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread El Gringo
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) This one time, at band camp, "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So who here has shed their excess film bodies in view of the pending fate of > film? > > I have, I'm down to the smallest number of

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread Antonio Aparicio
- From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying? Unique? What about the Hasselblad H1 - isn't that a 645 that will take both film and digital backs? Or the Mamiya 645? I guess if the rumored new digital Penta

RE: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-17 Thread Thibouille
Do you know when this show does take place ? Thibouille -Message d'origine- De : William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : samedi 17 juillet 2004 15:22 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: Pentax is Dying - Original Message - From: "Otis Wright" Subject

RE: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread El Gringo
hy. -el gringo -Original Message- From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying? Unique? What about the Hasselblad H1 - isn't that a 645 that will take both film and digital backs? Or the Ma

RE: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread El Gringo
Its also almost half the price of Canon L lens. I'm not bragging, I'm saying WAIT AND SEE. -el gringo -Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying? I think it is quite

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
I am down to an old ZX-10 of my wife's and an *ist film camera that my daughter uses. I don't expect to buy any other film cameras. The ZX-10 is never used. My daughter uses the *ist right now, but in the fall she is on the yearbook staff of her school - digital is how they do things now. We'll

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Antonio Aparicio
and in the end and find a nwe steady level - not deissapear totally. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. juli 2004 15:42 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Jens Bladt
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. juli 2004 15:42 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) On 17 Jul 2004 at 14:34, Antonio Aparicio wrote: > I dunno, I think film is doing fine considering. Sure a lot of people > will switch to digital for the convenience factor,

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Yeah, so I here. Even at 20K a digital back still makes economical sense to the serous pro who gets through lot of film. Apparently it pays for itself in no time. A. On 17 Jul 2004, at 17:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words, digital is apparently also making some inroads into the medium

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Unique? What about the Hasselblad H1 - isn't that a 645 that will take both film and digital backs? Or the Mamiya 645? I guess if the rumored new digital Pentax 645 is a dedicated digital body then that will be kinda of unique, although not as flexible or indeed desirable as the other systems o

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread ernreed2
Antonio said: > I dunno, I think film is doing fine considering. Sure a lot of people > will switch to digital for the convenience factor, but it is a bit > extreme to say film is dying (i.e. that it will eventually completely > disappear) - the results you get from film are just too good. Anywa

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Jim Apilado
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Digital Image Studio > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:50:38 +1000 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 03:50:42

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Chris Stoddart
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004, graywolf wrote: > Strangely, there are an increasing number of people who are moving back > to film as they have discovered that their needs are not met by > digital. This is my experience too. I have two (serious published amateur) photographer friends with Canon 10Ds and

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So who here has shed their excess film bodies in view of the pending fate of > film? > > I have, I'm down to the smallest number of film bodies I've had for many years > and I don't expect the number to ever increase eithe

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Jul 2004 at 14:34, Antonio Aparicio wrote: > I dunno, I think film is doing fine considering. Sure a lot of people > will switch to digital for the convenience factor, but it is a bit > extreme to say film is dying (i.e. that it will eventually completely > disappear) - the results you ge

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Alan Chan" Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying? > > Also, DA16-45 does not meet the built quality of Canon L lenses. > I don't think it meets the price point of the Canon L lenses either. William Robb

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Otis Wright" Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying > And, when is this supposed to happen? I hear all these promises about > how good its going to be... you know the rest of the > story.. I've heard that there

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" Subject: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) > > > > Alan wrote: > > > > > Some news from Taiwan retailers (or just rumour) suggested some Pentax FA > > > lenses were not m

Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" Subject: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) > On 17 Jul 2004 at 9:34, Jens Bladt wrote: > > > Pentax isn't Dying. Film is, increasingly slowly at some stage perhaps, but it's > > still going down. As P

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-17 Thread Steve Desjardins
t total market share. Herb - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 6:29 PM Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying > I've been told (by Pentax distributors) that Pentax have no plans of meeting de

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread Jostein
Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying? What's a Cotty? Did he convert to Canonism? Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. juli 2004 09:34 Til: pentax list Emne: Re: Pentax is Dying? On 17/7/04, Ro

Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Malcolm Smith
Rob Studdert wrote: > So who here has shed their excess film bodies in view of the > pending fate of film? Not me. > I have, I'm down to the smallest number of film bodies I've > had for many years and I don't expect the number to ever > increase either. I caught myself looking at another L

Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)

2004-07-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Jul 2004 at 9:34, Jens Bladt wrote: > Pentax isn't Dying. Film is, increasingly slowly at some stage perhaps, but it's > still going down. As Pentax has/had a pro-market in MF, they have to upgrade > this (Hasselblad and Rollei did) or/and try to dig further into/stay alive in > consumer DSL

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/7/04, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, offered: >> > Maybe they have been in the process of replacing the FA lenses? >> >> That would be nice, a set of DA prime lenses with the Quick shift focus >> and the 14mm build. >> >> Let´s face it, the FF sensor is for the 645 :-) > >If they do that

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-17 Thread Jens Bladt
I guess Baby *ist D and the Optio MX are good excamples of these lines of future Pentax cameras. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: El Gringo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. juli 2004 07:04 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: Pe

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-16 Thread Otis Wright
amp;S and DSLRs are where they hope to boost total market share. Herb - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 6:29 PM Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying I've been told (by Pentax distri

RE: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-16 Thread Alan Chan
I think it is quite pointless to brag about something which might but does not exist yet. Not to mention the inability to satisfy immediate demand. Also, DA16-45 does not meet the built quality of Canon L lenses. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Man you people are ridiculous Pentax wi

RE: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-16 Thread El Gringo
ginal Message- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 8:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying? Another: Pentax is doing fine as a company but is beginning to de-emphasize their photo division, or at least moving to a leaner photo div

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-16 Thread Herb Chong
: Friday, July 16, 2004 6:29 PM Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying > I've been told (by Pentax distributors) that Pentax have no plans of meeting demand for the *istD. Maybe the same is the case for the DA lenses (at least initially)?

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Jul 2004 at 22:59, DagT wrote: > > På 16. jul. 2004 kl. 22.48 skrev Alan Chan: > > >> there are probably other equally plausible explanations. I share your > >> frustration. > > > > Maybe they have been in the process of replacing the FA lenses? > > That would be nice, a set of DA prime l

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-16 Thread alex wetmore
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Alan Chan wrote: > >there are probably other equally plausible explanations. I share your > >frustration. > > Maybe they have been in the process of replacing the FA lenses? Pentax usually isn't full of surprises. We heard about the DA lenses 4-6 months before they were relea

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-16 Thread DagT
På 16. jul. 2004 kl. 22.48 skrev Alan Chan: there are probably other equally plausible explanations. I share your frustration. Maybe they have been in the process of replacing the FA lenses? That would be nice, a set of DA prime lenses with the Quick shift focus and the 14mm build. Let´s face it,

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-16 Thread Alan Chan
there are probably other equally plausible explanations. I share your frustration. Maybe they have been in the process of replacing the FA lenses? Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 m

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-16 Thread Alan Chan
3. Pentax is scaling back. They will produce new lenses, like the DAs, at a steady pace, but will not produce enough to meet sudden surges in demand. (Foolish, if you ask me, since the demand is now. If not met now, the demand may not exist when production becomes adequate.) Some news from Taiwa

Re: Pentax is Dying

2004-07-16 Thread Joseph Tainter
Collin wrote: It's been stated that they have large back-orders on istD bodies. If true it may likely be the same scenario for the lenses. No, not dying. Just unable to adjust to the volume of growth that's coming with popular new products. They may need an influx of cash in order to manage the gr

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-16 Thread alex wetmore
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Tom Reese wrote: > demand has suddenly skyrocked and Pentax can't ship fast enough (yeah right) I think this might actually be the case for some of the popular lenses. I ordered my FA 35/2 in Feb or March and it showed up in April. During that time everyone showed it as backo

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-16 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Or Pentax is about to bring out a whole new line of lenses and cameras and is depleting current stock in the run up... A. On 16 Jul 2004, at 15:37, Tom Reese wrote: Joseph Tainter checked his mailbox everyday for four months for lenses that never came then wrote: "I am frustrated beyond descrip

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-16 Thread Steve Desjardins
Another: Pentax is doing fine as a company but is beginning to de-emphasize their photo division, or at least moving to a leaner photo division.. Possible explanations that come to mind: demand has suddenly skyrocked and Pentax can't ship fast enough (yeah right) labor troubles, political troubl

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-16 Thread Tom Reese
Joseph Tainter checked his mailbox everyday for four months for lenses that never came then wrote: "I am frustrated beyond description about being unable to buy the lenses I want. I need them soon. Why is Pentax doing this?" "I am puzzled that few on the list seem to think this is something worth

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
Joe, I suspect that not many people buy lenses all that often and when they do, it is quite common to buy used. Because of that, the reality of the situation my not really be that noticeable. I think the other big issue besides being able to deliver products that are released, is filling in the

Re: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" Subject: Pentax is Dying? > I am frustrated beyond description about being unable to buy the lenses > I want. I need them soon. Why is Pentax doing this? I have bought three lenses recently. The A 15mm f/3.5 was a special

Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-15 Thread Joseph Tainter
The DA 14 has still not reached the U.S. Like the DA 16-45, Pentax cannot seem to produce enough to meet demand, or for some reason does not want to. Pentax USA told us it would be available here by mid June. I have had my order placed since 3 June. I was also just about ready to order the FA 7

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